deadsea33 has locked his own complaint thread without resolution

[_BlackStar]

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He probably has given up on trying to milk the account on signature campaigns after he unwittingly managed to get it noticed therefore he will not spend time on trying to defend it or seek pity because he knows it will be pointless. We do not know how many other accounts he operates and if they are enrolled in campaigns it means he will be occupied elsewhere.

JollyGood - I don't care about how many accounts he operates regardless of whether he has made bitcointalk a dairy cows or not. But so far @deadsea33 has roasted himself through suspicious activity and it has damaged his own reputation.

I'm not sure @deadsea33 can defend himself or intend to - now it's very likely he will leave that account somewhere and will operate another account after his manager kicks him out of the campaign.

[JollyGood]

This got me thinking therefore I decided to take a look at the YoMix campaign spreadsheet and what I noticed was that he has not been removed. He was added in their campaign the same day he created the thread about hugeblack (and that speaks volumes about the campaign manager): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434037.msg62520173#msg62520173

As for deadsea33, his reputation is over regardless of what any campaign manager does with him.

JollyGood - I don't care about how many accounts he operates regardless of whether he has made bitcointalk a dairy cows or not. But so far @deadsea33 has roasted himself through suspicious activity and it has damaged his own reputation.

I'm not sure @deadsea33 can defend himself or intend to - now it's very likely he will leave that account somewhere and will operate another account after his manager kicks him out of the campaign.

[The Sceptical Chymist]

<snip obvious and already discussed crap>
But nottheless, what do you think would likely happened to account since he wasn't able to defend himself, should it be pama ban or give a tempo ban?

Note the above post is a stereotypical sig campaign shitpost.  You've been a member here since 12/2021 and you don't realize that neither of those things is going to happen unless the account in question is evading a ban already?

I'm trying to be as polite as I can and am resisting the urge to say GTFO, though I very much want to.

JollyGood, I agree with your assessment, and nice job connecting the dots. 

I don't care about how many accounts he operates regardless of whether he has made bitcointalk a dairy cows or not.

LOL wut?  I think I know exactly what that means, but it made me chuckle.  One thing is probably true right now, however, and it's that deadsea33 is going to have a difficult time getting into a legitimate sig campaign if he's painted so red that his trust page looks like the flag of China.  He might sneak his weasily ass into a bounty if he's desperate enough and if the bounty manager is stupid enough, but I think that account is REKT.

[JeromeTash]

I think deadsea33 has had more than enough time to sign a message from the past addresses associated to his account and project but to this date, nothing from him. Not even an assurance that he will be signing a message. Therefore, I will leave him negative feedback. In case of any dispute or proof that he is the owner, he should feel free to create a complaint in this thread or PM me to reconsider my tag. Until then, it will stay.

This got me thinking therefore I decided to take a look at the YoMix campaign spreadsheet and what I noticed was that he has not been removed. He was added in their campaign the same day he created the thread about hugeblack (and that speaks volumes about the campaign manager): https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5434037.msg62520173#msg62520173

He applied, got added, and the Hugeblack discovered something off about the account. On leaving him the neutral tag, he came up here to complain. I think the CM gave him another chance to post this week, but am certain he might get removed after next payday.

[JollyGood]

JollyGood, I agree with your assessment, and nice job connecting the dots.

Credit goes to hugeblack for placing the initial neutral tag. After deadsea33 decided to make a thread to try to pressure hugeblack to remove the neutral tag it brought his account to the attention of the wider community. When members started looking at his post history it was clear the current owner/operator of the deadsea33 account was not the one who originally created it in 2013.

One thing is probably true right now, however, and it's that deadsea33 is going to have a difficult time getting into a legitimate sig campaign if he's painted so red that his trust page looks like the flag of China.  He might sneak his weasily ass into a bounty if he's desperate enough and if the bounty manager is stupid enough, but I think that account is REKT.

The last time I checked the deadsea33 account still has not been removed from the YoMix campaign but let us see what happens in the coming days. The irony here is that deadsea33 created the thread to try to get his neutral tag removed and was accepted in to the YoMix signature campaign on the same day.

I think deadsea33 has had more than enough time to sign a message from the past addresses associated to his account and project but to this date, nothing from him. Not even an assurance that he will be signing a message. Therefore, I will leave him negative feedback. In case of any dispute or proof that he is the owner, he should feel free to create a complaint in this thread or PM me to reconsider my tag. Until then, it will stay.

In the previous 10 days (since he created the thread to try to have the single neutral tag removed), he achieved nothing except making a total of 2 posts below therefore it goes to show how expendable the deadsea33 account was to the current owner/operator:

@JollyGood

Lol

12th July 2023:
- deadsea33 locks the thread

Thread is not locked by me.

Prediction 2: $32,608.16
bech32 address: bc1qe8ug79wgnxvja8sleeewa7x63ul4knktljvu80

[hugeblack]

I added this account to my watchlist because of this thread^[1], it's starting to get weird how:

 - An account awakened from a long period of inactivity distributes merits.
 - He has no posts outside this topic.
 - Deleted his old posts and there is no bitcoin address.

After a while, I noticed his name outside of that topic, I was surprised that he was accepted in a signature campaign run by @Royse777, so I gave him a neutral trust, not a negative one, thinking that @Royse777 knew something about that account, especially since he had zero posts until the date of his acceptance.

@Royse777 Can you confirm that this is the owner of the account or do you have any private information about @deadsea33?

As for the reason that I gave him trust tag and not only keep watching, I explained it here:

While I do agree with the none bolded parts but I really don't like the bold parts especially when a feedback was written as a personal note. Looks like - if you are not sure then why you go openly and start judging someone? You could be wrong and if you are wrong then you are effecting the said person and giving him a bad experience of the forum.

I have two reasons for this:
1) I've been trying to push him to create high quality posts, if he does and after about 2 weeks we'll have a good track posting record from which we can assess whether this account has been hacked or not.
2) He joined a signature campaign, and I was afraid that he would ask for a loan with the guarantee of that campaign payment, and I do not have enough proof, especially with @deadsea33 deleting all his previous addresses/posts.

[1] deadsea33's "Complete the Word Game and Get Merits"

[holydarkness]

<snip obvious and already discussed crap>
But nottheless, what do you think would likely happened to account since he wasn't able to defend himself, should it be pama ban or give a tempo ban?

Note the above post is a stereotypical sig campaign shitpost.  You've been a member here since 12/2021 and you don't realize that neither of those things is going to happen unless the account in question is evading a ban already?

I'm trying to be as polite as I can and am resisting the urge to say GTFO, though I very much want to.
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Allow me to complete that post you quoted and pointed out another thing regarding address signing, as below:

I think If I am not mistakenly I have came across the thread and also posted as well, from my observation I understand that the account is a bought account because there are two things possible; 1. Either he come and defend himself or herself or 2. He should have signed a message using a wallet that was used in a campaign for the last 3 years or last 2 years reason I said that is there may be some cases where he Lost all access to the first  address association to the account due to lack of understanding or not knowing how to safely secure his wallet details. This may be considered but haven not come to explain and show proof as the original owner has disqualified him of being the first holder of that account.
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If you came across the thread [which you did] and read them before posting either there or here, you'll also have a knowledge that your second proposal is impossible. I posted on that thread that he doesn't have any address on record and that JeromeTash had to go to unconventional way to dug their old address, and that's from waayy past the timeframe you suggested, three years due to that excuse [read above, the complete reason is well quoted]

That'll probably be a bit problematic, I can't find OP posted any address in the past other than the one he made this week enrolling on several campaigns and seems completely new.

[...]

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Then i guess he shouldn't have a problem signing a message from any of the following donation bitcoin addresses that appeared on his profile at one point as per the archives

Donations for iXcoin development: BTC: 17ckvmvSt8SPEy2DnjtGVpY8p5KK5B9f3c

Donations for iXcoin development: BTC: 1BdftzcoqrR6sAHRMTZoFcUnDvJDRgcZBP

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Signing a wallet that fits your criteria [used in a campaign in the last 2-3 years] will be a walk in a park as that wallet will be the one he created just earlier this month and surely is in his possession, and it proves nothing, no ties of the ownership with whoever hold the account prior to it waking up.

[JollyGood]

I think this is a perfect time for the puppeteer controlling the deadsea33 account to make a post. What he started by creating a thread to argue about a neutral tag (that hugeblack gave him) has spiralled in to an investigation of mass merit abuse.

It is not the only time account farmers have challenged tags and then found their account examined which led to the uncovering of nefarious conduct using multiple alt-accounts: Questionable Merit History From: deadsea33

[Sexylizzy2813]

I think this is a perfect time for the puppeteer controlling the deadsea33 account to make a post. What he started by creating a thread to argue about a neutral tag (that hugeblack gave him) has spiralled in to an investigation of mass merit abuse.

I don't think you have seen the last of Deadsea33, as it is that guy is still going to mold another account but this time he's going to play a different ball game and he'll be very careful about his move in this forum. First time I saw that account I was like how did he get such merit and he's still a member, even when I was a member to get up to 3merits was hard but how did he do that 700+ merit? Mehn... You guys need to dig out how he got such merit. Was even wondering why he started something (a thread of being neutral tag) he knows he wasn't going to win.
For now, the Sea is dead...

It is not the only time account farmers have challenged tags and then found their account examined which led to the uncovering of nefarious conduct using multiple alt-accounts: Questionable Merit History From: deadsea33

On that part of uncovering crazy farmers account I must recommend you guys, is not easy to dig deep and get things right, you guys are really trying so much in keeping this place to gather, just keep doing what's best for the forum by unfolding those black sheep's who intend to spoil the good work you guys have been doing.

[holydarkness]

[...]First time I saw that account I was like how did he get such merit and he's still a member, even when I was a member to get up to 3merits was hard but how did he do that 700+ merit? Mehn... You guys need to dig out how he got such merit. [...]

He did not get 700+ merit, only 258.

He is the account he bought is part of legacy accounts; members that's been around prior to the merit system being introduced. We got merit "airdropped" according to the current rank we're at when the system applied. Should be on a Hero member by the number of earned merit. Got 500 because he was on Hero, deleted most of his post, presumably and most likely to cover tracks of buying account, and got "demoted" to lower rank because his activity and posts decreased due to being deleted and did not meet the criteria of Hero rank. The merit stays, though.

[JollyGood]

Thank you for pointing out the manner in which deadsea33 had tried to cover his tracks. Thankfully he was unsuccessful in his attempts to stay under the radar because of his greed after he received a neutral tag from hugeblack. He thought he would be able to portray himself as a positive contributor to the forum but he failed and lost what little credibility others thought he had.

If this same cycle is being repeated where legacy accounts are given air-merits it means there could be far more puppeteers and account-farmers that I previously thought.

He did not get 700+ merit, only 258.

He is the account he bought is part of legacy accounts; members that's been around prior to the merit system being introduced. We got merit "airdropped" according to the current rank we're at when the system applied. Should be on a Hero member by the number of earned merit. Got 500 because he was on Hero, deleted most of his post, presumably and most likely to cover tracks of buying account, and got "demoted" to lower rank because his activity and posts decreased due to being deleted and did not meet the criteria of Hero rank. The merit stays, though.

[Sexylizzy2813]

He did not get 700+ merit, only 258.

700+ merit is what I saw on his profile that he have as when I first saw this account DEADSEA33 .
That's why I was surprised and how on earth did he get up to that amount of me with a lower rank.
Check properly you'd see that is 700+ merit unless we're not talking about same account here.

[JeromeTash]

700+ merit is what I saw on his profile that he have as when I first saw this account DEADSEA33 .
That's why I was surprised and how on earth did he get up to that amount of me with a lower rank.
Check properly you'd see that is 700+ merit unless we're not talking about same account here.

Of course, the total merit the account has is 758, but that does not mean he earned the 758
Given that it's a legacy account before merit system was introduced. The account got airdropped 500 merits by default because of the rank it had at that time, (Hero member)

Between that time and now, they only earned 258 merits.

Tools like BPIP can help you know how much merit an account actually earned - https://bpip.org/Profile?id=106374

[holydarkness]

He did not get 700+ merit, only 258.

700+ merit is what I saw on his profile that he have as when I first saw this account DEADSEA33 .
That's why I was surprised and how on earth did he get up to that amount of me with a lower rank.
Check properly you'd see that is 700+ merit unless we're not talking about same account here.

I am very much sure we are talking about the same account, UID #106374, profile as shown below:



or, if you consult to his profile on BPIP and/or use BPIP extension, of which gave a more comprehensive results, the profile will give you information like what my previous screenshot show, as below:



He does own 700+ merit, but he did not get all of them by earning merit [other members send merits to his account]. Only 258 are given by others [this data shown by "Earned Merit" field on BPIP. The other 500 are "airdropped" to his account. The forum "rewarded" existing members prior to the introduction of merit system by assigning merits that correspond to their current rank when the merit system being introduced.

For example, if someone is on Full Member rank when the system being introduced, they will not start at 0 merit. Instead, he'll begin with 100. Likewise, a Hero Member [like me] who has been around before the merit system being introduced, started with 500 merits. Thus, although my merit shows 1,132, the actual merit I earned is just 632. I got 500 bonus merit and 632 earned merit.



deadsea33 was at the same rank as me [Hero Member] when Merit System being introduced, thus he also got 500 bonus merit. But later on, he deleted most of his posts.

The ranking system in bitcointalk are influenced by "three" factors [previously only "two", with merit being the recent addition]: post count, activity, and merit [actually post count did not calculated and considered toward ranking up, but as activity count is heavily influenced by post count, let's just say it's one of the factor].

When someone --let's say a Hero Member with 490 post count, 490 activity, and 510 merit-- deleted 50 of their post, their post count will became 440, and the activity count will decreased to 440 as well while their merit stays at 510, since activity count is tied to post count but merit are permanent [and can not be undone once sent]. This number did not met one of the Hero criteria [480 activity and 500 merit], thus he got demoted to the rank below it, Senior Member.

On deadsea33, he practically wiped clean his posts, effectively also reset his activity count and demoted him so far below, while his merit is still intact.

I hope this explanation helps you understand better the situation regarding deadsea33's merit.

[Sexylizzy2813]

I hope this explanation helps you understand better the situation regarding deadsea33's merit.

Yes it did, you're part of those I'll call old members, you have been here for a very long time, I believe the merit system is quite different from the way it is now.
You really enlightened me on so many things I never knew, I'm still new and have a lot to know /learn in this Forum, like they said "no knowledge is a waste".
You did well @holydarkness