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July 21, 2023, 11:37:01 AM
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" Unfortunately I do not have any concrete evidence but I have a strong suspicion that this user is an alt of elmanchez (u=2553198) and ps34 (u=2751022). If dealing with this user, I suggest you trust him no more than you would the other two. If in doubt, use escrow. DireWolfM14 " -

I don't care if you feel that you need to paint on my wall, go ahead and let your emotions run a riot, this "neutral-feedback drama" is so nerdy so I can only laugh.

But I can do you a favor, if you dislike me so much, let's meet and speak face to face, I show who I am and you can show the forum that you actually can back up your worlds.




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I really don't like users using the trust system for this type of stuff. Speculation tags are just not cool IMO. I def don't think ps34 could write a topic like this 1 is written. Hopefully you guys can work out your differences and get the tag removed, but if not there is that ignore button.

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July 21, 2023, 12:00:19 PM
Last edit: July 21, 2023, 02:38:50 PM by CYBER_COWBOY
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I really don't like users using the trust system for this type of stuff. Speculation tags are just not cool IMO. I def don't think ps34 could write a topic like this 1 is written. Hopefully you guys can work out your differences and get the tag removed, but if not there is that ignore button.

Yes I had him on ignore since the day he came in to my loan thread and was rude, but he obvious could not take that. Dunno why... I guess he is used to walk over people here and can't accept when people stands up for themself and speaks back. That I should be Ps34 and the other user (i forgot his name) is ridiculous and I don't think he actually believe that, he just want to paint on my wall, and he is very welcome to do so if it makes him happy and makes him feel stronger.

Maybe he is angry because I called him and Timelord same shit. but he just proofed us all that they are.

But in the end it's just sad and so unnecessary.
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July 21, 2023, 02:09:16 PM
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I really don't like users using the trust system for this type of stuff. Speculation tags are just not cool IMO.

I'm 100% in agreement with this comment, but when in Rome...

The trust system seems to have become the new post-it-note for the forum, even Switzerland suggested I leave that tag.  Embarrassed

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July 21, 2023, 03:12:25 PM
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- You accused me for take people's KYC when they asked for a loan (AGAIN - please ask the people that borrowed money if they send ANYTHING ever)
- Then you raged out because I asked LoyceV to give me feedback that i never want to take a loan. (I still said then that please leave me alone)
- You also replied that I was mentally illl. (You was again ignored.)
Again for the fourth time i kindly ask you, please LEAVE me alone! If you really want to argue with me, let's do it like adults and not kids. I have no problem with that.

You see one thing about this forum is that you need to learn how to keep your head straight, this is bitcointalk community and you should expect many talks about you and your reputation, but the good luck you've got is when none of this talks concerns you or finds you guilty of them, any accusation without concrete evidence to it will always be discarded by the community, this is ot the first time people were wrongly accused or something, yours is to remain upright.

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July 21, 2023, 03:34:16 PM
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- You accused me for take people's KYC when they asked for a loan (AGAIN - please ask the people that borrowed money if they send ANYTHING ever)
- Then you raged out because I asked LoyceV to give me feedback that i never want to take a loan. (I still said then that please leave me alone)
- You also replied that I was mentally illl. (You was again ignored.)
Again for the fourth time i kindly ask you, please LEAVE me alone! If you really want to argue with me, let's do it like adults and not kids. I have no problem with that.

You see one thing about this forum is that you need to learn how to keep your head straight, this is bitcointalk community and you should expect many talks about you and your reputation, but the good luck you've got is when none of this talks concerns you or finds you guilty of them, any accusation without concrete evidence to it will always be discarded by the community, this is ot the first time people were wrongly accused or something, yours is to remain upright.


I understand what you saying, but that I should be an alt of Ps34 and the other guy is ridiculous. Everyone with at least 1% of brain now this is not the case.  Grin
I guess he is in love with me and since I rejected him time after time he is desperate, pathetic if you ask me. Why not just leave me alone.....?
This is just mean, and being mean on the internet is sign of extremely weakness and insecureness.

And a question with all respect but why should i expect many talks about me and my reputation becasue this is the bitcointalk forum?


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I understand what you saying, but that I should be an alt of Ps34 and the other guy is ridiculous. Everyone with at least 1% of brain now this is not the case.  Grin


I would like to correct a little about the fact that you and other accounts may have different IPs. This does not mean anything; always remember TOR and the easy change of IP addresses.
But this remark does not mean that I am on someone's side. Usually, whoever leaves neutral tags with some kind of accusation should provide a reference link. In addition to everything, time will put everything in its place. Simple guesses don't say anything, why would you care about people with less than 1 percent brains? The rest must draw their own conclusions.

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I understand what you saying, but that I should be an alt of Ps34 and the other guy is ridiculous. Everyone with at least 1% of brain now this is not the case.  Grin


I would like to correct a little about the fact that you and other accounts may have different IPs. This does not mean anything; always remember TOR and the easy change of IP addresses.
But this remark does not mean that I am on someone's side. Usually, whoever leaves neutral tags with some kind of accusation should provide a reference link. In addition to everything, time will put everything in its place. Simple guesses don't say anything, why would you care about people with less than 1 percent brains? The rest must draw their own conclusions.

I guess you have right. I should just ignore it, but it irritates me that I get accused for being a guy that have speaking very bad to me, both in posting, pm & in telegram.
But I should not let it affect me like that, you have right. But I am sure Wolf don't think we are the same person, he just want a reason to try to start an argue with me. (He tried many times before but just got ignored, he prob hurt) but I don't argue on the internet, if I argue it will happen face2face.
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July 21, 2023, 04:58:07 PM
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Hi, buddy
I feel the same way about you. I get neutral tags referring to the posts themselves, not evidence. but on DT recommended me to forget about it, so I did. Maybe it's better to forget about it before DT gets angry and makes his tag turn red. DT can do it, with or without proof.

Honestly I'm Sympathetic because you get a tag without any proof of reference. But that is our fate as members of the lower class


Congratulations, looks like you succeeded. because I don't see that neutral tag anymore

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Hi, buddy
Looks like we have an unfinished discussion. Maybe I could complain, because you also complain when you think I'm not responding to someone


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Hi, buddy
I feel the same way about you. I get neutral tags referring to the posts themselves, not evidence. but on DT recommended me to forget about it, so I did. Maybe it's better to forget about it before DT gets angry and makes his tag turn red. DT can do it, with or without proof.

Honestly I'm Sympathetic because you get a tag without any proof of reference. But that is our fate as members of the lower class


It's sad that people handle out feedback like that, I think it's only hurting the forums reputation and make it harder for it to grow in general.
I am pretty sure he actually don't believe me and Ps34 are the same person and did this for others reason, because Wolf ain't stupid.
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Congratulations @dire your first thread full of angst and navel gazing.

If I could find the quote, I'd post that image "to not feed the Trolls"




In any event, speaking of using the Trust feedback wall as a post it note wall:

Here is a retaliatory comment made by the OP:

DireWolfM14    2023-07-21    Reference    Trust abuser, fake accusing people with zero proof. His feeling tell him what to do. This guy's judgment can not be trusted, and if you want peace, stay far away from this user. First hi accusing me for being an ALT of Ps34 and now this. I don't even offer secured loans.

Speaking of ps34 ... has anyone else noticed ps34 has stopped posting while ps1234 has "just woken up"?

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It's sad that people handle out feedback like that ~

What is truly sad is that both of you little bitches are complaining about the neutral feedback on your profiles, while at the same time, you are leaving retaliatory feedback and thus abusing the trust system yourselves.

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July 21, 2023, 10:41:24 PM
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even Switzerland suggested I leave that tag.  Embarrassed
LOL.

It's sad that people handle out feedback like that, I think it's only hurting the forums reputation and make it harder for it to grow in general.
It's been that way for years in case you haven't noticed.  It's just that you're now on the receiving end of some feedback you don't agree with.  And I'm not clear on this: were you asking for all of those documents in your lending thread (the income statement, etc.)?  I looked at your terms and didn't see anything like that and don't know if you'd made changes or not.  Hopefully you weren't, because despite you stating adamantly that your intention wouldn't be to use that information to scam anyone, no one can read your mind.  A scammer and an honest lender would both say the same thing, so who's to say?

What is truly sad is that both of you little bitches are complaining about the neutral feedback on your profiles, while at the same time, you are leaving retaliatory feedback and thus abusing the trust system yourselves.
Now, now.  I'm not familiar with CYBER_COWBOY, but DireWolfM14 is certainly not a bitch of any size.

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July 22, 2023, 12:08:08 AM
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And I'm not clear on this: were you asking for all of those documents in your lending thread (the income statement, etc.)?  I looked at your terms and didn't see anything like that and don't know if you'd made changes or not.  Hopefully you weren't, because despite you stating adamantly that your intention wouldn't be to use that information to scam anyone, no one can read your mind.  A scammer and an honest lender would both say the same thing, so who's to say?

In his loan thread, it can be seen that he approved two loans.
First is to the dollarday reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445759.msg62035357#msg62035357
User dollarday was banned soon.
Next is loan to Rohan Kotkar, reference: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5445759.msg62144300#msg62144300 and this loan is defaulted https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5455027.0

I would say a very strange criterion for approving loans. Maybe it's just a beginner's mistake.



Timelord2067, seriously? this is for feedback?

Timelord2067    2023-07-21    Reference    Launched a pottymouthed rant when @DireWolfM14 posted this:

"Do not send this user any ID documents, and if requesting a secured loan from any new member use a trusted escrow provider."

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Now, now.  I'm not familiar with CYBER_COWBOY, but DireWolfM14 is certainly not a bitch of any size.

Lol, I'm sure some would argue that I've had my moments. Grin

But I think Stalker22 was talking about PytagoraZ, since he started a similar thread about the neutral that he received a few weeks ago.

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I really don't like users using the trust system for this type of stuff. Speculation tags are just not cool IMO. I def don't think ps34 could write a topic like this 1 is written. Hopefully you guys can work out your differences and get the tag removed, but if not there is that ignore button.

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Fishy001    2022-11-13        IMO a hypocritical spammer who makes topics for attention and insults any user who calls him out on it.

Royse777    2022-07-18    Reference    Co partner of Bitlucy casino that ended up scamming participants. User is also very hotheaded and childish


Nexchange.co.uk    2017-09-18    Reference    User has provided me with a signed message(verified) as well as paid out 2 previously opened sig campaigns. Still has an open scam accusation against them that needs deal with.

If they pay out the final campaign they have open I will remove feedback completely. If any problems occur will adjust my rating




You have more than double the number of negative trust feedbacks placed against other users compared to the number I have (and a similar proportion of positives) - Perhaps instead of giving armchair opinions you go back and review your own trust feedbacks left for others?  (Including your negatives)

(Feel free to review mine to compare to your own)




I haven't seen your health issue thread for a while.  I hope you are still on the mend.

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I really don't like users using the trust system for this type of stuff. Speculation tags are just not cool IMO. I def don't think ps34 could write a topic like this 1 is written. Hopefully you guys can work out your differences and get the tag removed, but if not there is that ignore button.

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Fishy001    2022-11-13        IMO a hypocritical spammer who makes topics for attention and insults any user who calls him out on it.

Royse777    2022-07-18    Reference    Co partner of Bitlucy casino that ended up scamming participants. User is also very hotheaded and childish


Nexchange.co.uk    2017-09-18    Reference    User has provided me with a signed message(verified) as well as paid out 2 previously opened sig campaigns. Still has an open scam accusation against them that needs deal with.

If they pay out the final campaign they have open I will remove feedback completely. If any problems occur will adjust my rating




You have more than double the number of negative trust feedbacks placed against other users compared to the number I have (and a similar proportion of positives) - Perhaps instead of giving armchair opinions you go back and review your own trust feedbacks left for others?  (Including your negatives)

(Feel free to review mine to compare to your own)




I haven't seen your health issue thread for a while.  I hope you are still on the mend.
I may need to revise a tag or 2 but mostly factual information. Saying I think account A is account B and possibly account C is specualtive. None of that should be happening. The fishy tags while true are probably unnecessary despite my feelings. The royse tag was true by his own words iirc. Regardless I could probably remove that tag as well. Not sure whats up with the exchange as I forget what that was all about. 2017 was a long time ago. Looks like other users shared my feelings though and went as far a red tagging them.

What happened in the past and what should be happening now are 2 different things. People adapt and grow, apparently not all though. Thanks for asking about my health but i'm not sure you're genuine so I will decline to answer you. Have a good day buddy.

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Thanks for asking about my health but i'm not sure you're genuine so I will decline to answer you. Have a good day buddy.

I may have been accused of not having all the information, but not one person has said I have acted with malice.




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Really? This for a neutral tag? You can get mad all you want, OP, but a neutral tag like that is not abusing the trust system. In general a neutral tag is not, unless it is clearly negative in spirit but neutral in color, something like "CYBER_COWBOY is a fucking scammer, don't deal with him." That could be a case of trust abuse if it is not supported by anything other than opinion.

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Last edit: July 24, 2023, 04:06:04 PM by CYBER_COWBOY
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" Unfortunately I do not have any concrete evidence but I have a strong suspicion that this user is an alt of elmanchez (u=2553198) and ps34 (u=2751022). If dealing with this user, I suggest you trust him no more than you would the other two. If in doubt, use escrow. DireWolfM14 "
THIS IS THE REASON FOR THIS TOPIC.


It's sad that people handle out feedback like that ~
What is truly sad is that both of you little bitches are complaining about the neutral feedback on your profiles, while at the same time, you are leaving retaliatory feedback and thus abusing the trust system yourselves.

Really? This for a neutral tag? You can get mad all you want, OP, but a neutral tag like that is not abusing the trust system. In general a neutral tag is not, unless it is clearly negative in spirit but neutral in color, something like "CYBER_COWBOY is a fucking scammer, don't deal with him." That could be a case of trust abuse if it is not supported by anything other than opinion.

This topic is created because he called me an alt of PS34 and another account, without ref link, any proof or anything. So Yes he did abuse the trust system, and its not the first time and def not the last either.
What I did was to ref to this topic and said he trust abused, witch he did. Then he deleted it and replace it with a new feedback, after that I deleted my feedback.
I am not a clown that feel that I need to post on another peoples walls that I don't have anything to do with, that's a behavior of a nerd in my opinion.

Next time you open your mouths, read the whole topic so you won't look like fools, or you think it's totally normal and OK to accuse accounts to belong to each other when they don't with zero proof?
Shouldn't the accuser create some kind of topic with proofs and then use that as a REF link?


It's sad that people handle out feedback like that, I think it's only hurting the forums reputation and make it harder for it to grow in general.
It's been that way for years in case you haven't noticed.  It's just that you're now on the receiving end of some feedback you don't agree with.  And I'm not clear on this: were you asking for all of those documents in your lending thread (the income statement, etc.)?  I looked at your terms and didn't see anything like that and don't know if you'd made changes or not.  Hopefully you weren't, because despite you stating adamantly that your intention wouldn't be to use that information to scam anyone, no one can read your mind.  A scammer and an honest lender would both say the same thing, so who's to say?

Of course I did not, and I would never ask anyone for any documents. NEVER. (Why he don't just ask the people who applied?!)
First am I an alt of Ps34 and after that I stealing KYC. 🤡
The only thing I do is to offer non-collateral loans, and so far everyone that tried it are happy.


Congratulations @dire your first thread full of angst and navel gazing.

Your reply are really worried, you think this is completely normal. by the way the feedback you left me is wrong.
I did not created this topic for the reason your saying, its because I was accused of being and alt of PS34.
You really doing all you can to be as far away from that DT list you can. I mean 70+ people distrust you.
Feedback from you means nothing absolutely nothing for anyone.

A question, why do you feel that you must lie so much on daily basis? Are you ok?
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