The whales stirred. What should we expect?

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The whales stirred. What should we expect?

Judging by the information coming in, a lot of ancient "crypto whale" wallets that have not created any movement with Bitcoin, for many years, have recently "come to life". Recently, assets have started to be transferred from these wallets to the exchanges. The withdrawal to the exchanges, kind of hints that these amounts are being withdrawn to sell Bitcoin. Question to the esteemed public ! What is this ?
- the end of the short era of cryptocurrencies ? Owners are actively moving into fiat
- the end of the Bitcoin era ? Are they selling it to change cryptoasset for storage ? And what is this crypto asset?
- regulators have "gotten their way", cryptocurrency is losing support and interest ?
- your version ?

Could be that they know something that we don't know, you never can tell you know. If you have large chunk of BTC stored somewhere you invested some years back and have gained 6000x from when the price was around $4.3, they will always have Intels the public don't have because, look at again, why sell now instead of selling when the price was around $50k when they would have made more millions of dollars instead of selling them now and they could have also waited for the new coming bull run, it will so easy to exit the market without causing much drama, I still think they may no something we don't have at hand.

Looking at it from another angle. What if the owner of the coin has health issues and tried to use his investment for treatment, what if the person is giving up soon and want to have his money donated to charity, what if the person suddenly become broke and then sell to recover his normal life, these are the questions that prompted from your questions. Whatever the reasons of the owner are, I hope it favour bitcoin market.

[AmoreJaz]

My version would be:
They're taking out their profits just like every other investor out there, so I believe there's nothing wrong in doing that. If such movements are taking place, I think they'll most probably be done outside exchanges (through OTC dealings) in order to avoid hassle of paying taxes or trying not to get under the radar by getting caught in the eyes of governmental authorities. However, it could also be something like you said that they might be investing into something else (maybe dark coins like XMR or something else I don't know) and so they're moving out their coins in order to increase their wealth through other ways, who knows!

i believe, we should not overthink on this. for all we know, they are just selling their btc because they want it and they need fiat money. we are only speculating here for reasons that we have no control of.
so instead of getting a headache thinking why they are selling their stash, much better if you will take care of your own business and find ways how to improve your portfolio.

[Gallar]

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Judging by the information coming in, a lot of ancient "crypto whale" wallets that have not created any movement with Bitcoin, for many years, have recently "come to life". Recently, assets have started to be transferred from these wallets to the exchanges. The withdrawal to the exchanges, kind of hints that these amounts are being withdrawn to sell Bitcoin.

In my estimation, these whales are clearly bitcoin investors who have been hoarding bitcoins for a long time, and maybe only now have they opened the wallet after all this time, to take advantage of the bitcoin assets they have. Because the bitcoin market will soon face a bull run and the whales, start sending their bitcoin assets to the exchange, in preparation for selling them when the bull market starts. Most likely, the reason the whales started moving, was probably because of that factor.

The whales stirred. What should we expect?

What I hope is that I can take full advantage of the movement of the crypto market caused by these whales. Because usually, when the whales start moving, usually the crypto/bitcoin market movement will definitely soar up quickly. So it is at this time that we must be able to quickly take advantage of the rising market movement, by selling the rising crypto/bitcoin asset, quickly. Because if you don't hurry, I'm afraid the whales will sell their assets faster, and we will be left behind, because surely the market movement will go down again, when the whales have succeeded in selling all their crypto or bitcoin assets. So maybe at that time, we have to be ready and fast in selling our crypto assets (crypto assets that are on the rise).

[Vishnu.Reang]

If a large number of early investors are selling their coins, then it means that they are not feeling optimistic about the future of bitcoin. This may be due to a number of reasons. First of all we are witnessing increase in regulation from the governments. Also, the interest from institutional investors seems to be declining. Moreover, the prices have remained flat for the last few months. A lot of the old generation investors have decided that they need to sell at least a part of their coin holdings.

[justdimin]

If we carefully read the information about the movement of assets on the whales' wallets, we will realize that these are not just moves, but moves specifically on the MARKETS. People transfer assets to exchanges for what? Right - to sell or buy for one asset, another asset. Therefore, I, with high probability and assume 2 options - sale and exit to fiat (perhaps something know) or a global change of the "leader of the crypto world", other options explaining the transfer of huge amounts of bitcoins and assume I can not assume. In this case, the option "they just transferred" - I do not consider, because it is absolutely allogical.

I agree that most of the time that could be the reason, there are few niche reasons like people just changing wallets, which they may do via an exchange because they do not want to be followed, and that makes sense fully, but I understand why people would think that it would be to do a move on the market.

However, nowadays there aren't really that much wild volatility that is going around enough to make selling or even buying make sense just yet. I understand when the market is moving hectically it could lead whales make moves, but when its this silent and just stagnating at one price, I do not think that whales have any reason to make big moves. They might, but it is not changing anything right now as we can see.

[WatChe]

It's really hard to see what the whales are doing right now. We are still in the middle of the bull run, so it doesn't make sense for them to sell?
Perhaps they are just moving it to a more secure bitcoin addresses or something and not necessarily that they are going to sell or not.
If they are selling after holding it for many years, then I would say that it is the wrong decision. I mean they have been holding it for years and then suddenly they will liquidate it? For me it's a stupid and bad moved.

There are so many questions about moment of such sleeping bitcoins. It may be someone (hacker) got control of the wallet and is forwarding these bitcoins to his wallet or may be whale is transferring bitcoin to his other wallet. Best time to cash out such bitcoins that were bought 10 years ago was in 2011 when bitcoin was touching 67k. Its hard to believe that someone waited 10 years to sell bitcoin in such market.

[DrBeer]

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Judging by the information coming in, a lot of ancient "crypto whale" wallets that have not created any movement with Bitcoin, for many years, have recently "come to life". Recently, assets have started to be transferred from these wallets to the exchanges. The withdrawal to the exchanges, kind of hints that these amounts are being withdrawn to sell Bitcoin.

In my estimation, these whales are clearly bitcoin investors who have been hoarding bitcoins for a long time, and maybe only now have they opened the wallet after all this time, to take advantage of the bitcoin assets they have. Because the bitcoin market will soon face a bull run and the whales, start sending their bitcoin assets to the exchange, in preparation for selling them when the bull market starts. Most likely, the reason the whales started moving, was probably because of that factor.

The whales stirred. What should we expect?

What I hope is that I can take full advantage of the movement of the crypto market caused by these whales. Because usually, when the whales start moving, usually the crypto/bitcoin market movement will definitely soar up quickly. So it is at this time that we must be able to quickly take advantage of the rising market movement, by selling the rising crypto/bitcoin asset, quickly. Because if you don't hurry, I'm afraid the whales will sell their assets faster, and we will be left behind, because surely the market movement will go down again, when the whales have succeeded in selling all their crypto or bitcoin assets. So maybe at that time, we have to be ready and fast in selling our crypto assets (crypto assets that are on the rise).

If we carefully read the information about the movement of assets on the whales' wallets, we will realize that these are not just moves, but moves specifically on the MARKETS. People transfer assets to exchanges for what? Right - to sell or buy for one asset, another asset. Therefore, I, with high probability and assume 2 options - sale and exit to fiat (perhaps something know) or a global change of the "leader of the crypto world", other options explaining the transfer of huge amounts of bitcoins and assume I can not assume. In this case, the option "they just transferred" - I do not consider, because it is absolutely allogical.

I agree that most of the time that could be the reason, there are few niche reasons like people just changing wallets, which they may do via an exchange because they do not want to be followed, and that makes sense fully, but I understand why people would think that it would be to do a move on the market.

However, nowadays there aren't really that much wild volatility that is going around enough to make selling or even buying make sense just yet. I understand when the market is moving hectically it could lead whales make moves, but when its this silent and just stagnating at one price, I do not think that whales have any reason to make big moves. They might, but it is not changing anything right now as we can see.

I will answer two authors at once, the questions are close.

No one excludes preparation for a bullish trend. To place orders without haste and be ready for a sharp rise. And the explanation here is quite logical - at the beginning of the bull market, a lot of small transactions will be created, "home investors", which will again make the network slow and expensive, in terms of transaction cost.  Also quite a logical explanation of what is happening, why not !?!?
It will be necessary to look deeper into the analytics of "whale" wallets, if they "fell" from the last peak of 60k dollars, it can be seen as a preparation for a new and significant growth of bitcoin !

[DrBeer]

No, you really ARE retarded. I'm not going to refute the fact the coins have moved. Because it's a fact. Unlike your apocalyptic hypotheses of crypto or BTC going to zero.

Read your post:

That's BS. It's clear as day that you're spreading FUD here. And it's also clear that's not just for fun or because you really think so. You are being guided by someone. So, Mr. Sockpuppet, I think I know who your owners are (judging by some other stuff you post here).

Perfect timing btw, you were waiting for a minor price setback to spread your FUD. Noobs are selling like crazy atm.

That's my version.  

Then read this something that is a little higher, your own writings:

And now let's think - what diagnosis from psychiatry would suit here best? I am not a specialist in mental disorders - I will leave you the right to choose the name of the diagnosis that is most pleasant to you  
With pleasure I will continue the dialogue with you when adequacy and something logical and reasonable return to your posts. I'm not losing hope in this set of circumstances

PS I have an assumption that against the background of the main problem, you develop a lack of communication, and you are trying to at least somehow attract attention to yourself ...

[bitLeap]

It's really hard to see what the whales are doing right now. We are still in the middle of the bull run, so it doesn't make sense for them to sell?
Perhaps they are just moving it to a more secure bitcoin addresses or something and not necessarily that they are going to sell or not.
If they are selling after holding it for many years, then I would say that it is the wrong decision. I mean they have been holding it for years and then suddenly they will liquidate it? For me it's a stupid and bad moved.

There are so many questions about moment of such sleeping bitcoins. It may be someone (hacker) got control of the wallet and is forwarding these bitcoins to his wallet or may be whale is transferring bitcoin to his other wallet. Best time to cash out such bitcoins that were bought 10 years ago was in 2011 when bitcoin was touching 67k. Its hard to believe that someone waited 10 years to sell bitcoin in such market.

When something that has been sleeping for years and comes back from sleep, then there will be a lot of speculation about this, we just see now how much speculation about this, starting from them going to sell bitcoin or something more than that. But I was thinking something like this, which is that they want to heat up the conversation about those who do that. Of course there will be 2 groups that will respond, one group will be happy because maybe it's a signal from the "whales" who might come in again with larger amounts, and the other group they will panic because they think negatively, as mentioned earlier.
But for us, I especially will not think negatively about this, I will stick to the path that I set out at the beginning.

[flyingcarpet]

It's really hard to see what the whales are doing right now. We are still in the middle of the bull run, so it doesn't make sense for them to sell?
Perhaps they are just moving it to a more secure bitcoin addresses or something and not necessarily that they are going to sell or not.
If they are selling after holding it for many years, then I would say that it is the wrong decision. I mean they have been holding it for years and then suddenly they will liquidate it? For me it's a stupid and bad moved.

There are so many questions about moment of such sleeping bitcoins. It may be someone (hacker) got control of the wallet and is forwarding these bitcoins to his wallet or may be whale is transferring bitcoin to his other wallet. Best time to cash out such bitcoins that were bought 10 years ago was in 2011 when bitcoin was touching 67k. Its hard to believe that someone waited 10 years to sell bitcoin in such market.

When something that has been sleeping for years and comes back from sleep, then there will be a lot of speculation about this, we just see now how much speculation about this, starting from them going to sell bitcoin or something more than that. But I was thinking something like this, which is that they want to heat up the conversation about those who do that. Of course there will be 2 groups that will respond, one group will be happy because maybe it's a signal from the "whales" who might come in again with larger amounts, and the other group they will panic because they think negatively, as mentioned earlier.
But for us, I especially will not think negatively about this, I will stick to the path that I set out at the beginning.

Everyone wonders what to do when there is movement in a crypto wallet. It is not as easy as it used to be to steer the market, but they can still provide a dynamism. That's why I'm very curious about the movements of whales. But I don't think they will sell at this stage. It wouldn't be right for them to make sales when there is so little time left for the halving. Maybe I'm wrong, they will lower the price first and then buy more bitcoins than they sell. It could be any possibility.

There's no need to panic. It makes most sense to continue to implement your own investment strategy. There are many environmental factors and these factors can mislead us when investing in Bitcoin. That's why I think everyone should follow their own strategy and continue.

[slapper]

The crypto whales are on the move! Always a sight to witness, wouldn't you agree? The crypto community is shaken by their actions. Let's take a look into your theories.

Can we now say goodbye to the crypto age? Maybe a little too dramatic for comfort? The cryptosphere has been through many storms, so the awakening of the whales is hardly a signal of impending doom. Second, moving to a new cryptocurrency. It's a possibility. The identity of the asset that a prudent whale would diversify into is currently unknown. "Getting their way" from the regulators? Extremely improbable. Because of their decentralized nature, cryptocurrencies will stubbornly oppose government oversight.

My take? Crypto markets are volatile & these movements are part of the ecosystem's nature

[serjent05]

As long as these moved coins did not reach the market to sell, I don't think we have to expect something.  Maybe they are moving these coins for security purposes.  But if these coins were moved to be sold then the sudden influx of coins to the market can definitely affect the trend of Bitcoin.  There will be a selling pressure that can prevent the market from going up in price. So if the moved coins is not sold aggressively then we might be seeing a sideway until the sell pressure is lessen.

[suzanne5223]

I think we shouldn't be bothered by the thing we have no control over and instead of being bothered, we ought to focus on making the best out of the opportunity presented by the market because this is not the first time the whale manipulate the market and all the ancient crypto wallet that sudden come back to life can only be for two reasons either to sell, or hold since big investment companies are having an interest in Bitcoin and the whales won't like to miss the event.

[Vishnu.Reang]

The prime reason for the market downturn is the downfall of one of the largest global cryptocurrency exchanges, FTX. As well as bitcoin is loosing its value rapidly due to high inflation and cost of living crises, People are engage to hardly manage to balance their life. At this point people really not able to invest in such things and people selling their cryptocurrency.

[bluebit25]

Sober up a bit, how many of them compared to the current market share?

Honestly, some of the information that I look at doesn't have an easy appreciation, sometimes it creates a sense of fear for the ignorant among us. The market is getting bigger and bigger, and people who try to manipulate certain stories will still work with people who don't know the market yet. We are here for profit, for future development, when there is a specific game plan according to the cycle or economic trends are observed at the beginning or during the experience.

So I honestly want to draw attention to the fact that it's about looking for opportunities, not some selfcreated skepticism.

[Betwrong]

The crypto whales are on the move! Always a sight to witness, wouldn't you agree? The crypto community is shaken by their actions. Let's take a look into your theories.

Can we now say goodbye to the crypto age? Maybe a little too dramatic for comfort? The cryptosphere has been through many storms, so the awakening of the whales is hardly a signal of impending doom. Second, moving to a new cryptocurrency. It's a possibility. The identity of the asset that a prudent whale would diversify into is currently unknown. "Getting their way" from the regulators? Extremely improbable. Because of their decentralized nature, cryptocurrencies will stubbornly oppose government oversight.

My take? Crypto markets are volatile & these movements are part of the ecosystem's nature

I agree with you. As I said above, those are normal fluctuations. It's not something unusual. Whales moving big funds to exchanges doesn't mean the market is going to crush, it only means that the market is alive. What should we expect? In the nearest future BTC and other major coins may go up or down, we can't say for sure. But what we can be pretty sure about is that in a year BTC will reach its new ATH. That's what I believe because another halving nears, and, as always, it will have a positive impact on the price of BTC and other coins consequently.

[radjie]

The whales stirred. What should we expect?

Judging by the information coming in, a lot of ancient "crypto whale" wallets that have not created any movement with Bitcoin, for many years, have recently "come to life". Recently, assets have started to be transferred from these wallets to the exchanges. The withdrawal to the exchanges, kind of hints that these amounts are being withdrawn to sell Bitcoin. Question to the esteemed public ! What is this ?
- the end of the short era of cryptocurrencies ? Owners are actively moving into fiat
- the end of the Bitcoin era ? Are they selling it to change cryptoasset for storage ? And what is this crypto asset?
- regulators have "gotten their way", cryptocurrency is losing support and interest ?
- your version ?

There is a possibility that the owner decides to leave temporarily and switch to another business so as to convert the assets they have so they can avoid hacking their account.
This is certainly not the end of Bitcoin, they will return after doing research and planning the right time

[khiholangkang]

As long as these moved coins did not reach the market to sell, I don't think we have to expect something.  Maybe they are moving these coins for security purposes.  But if these coins were moved to be sold then the sudden influx of coins to the market can definitely affect the trend of Bitcoin.  There will be a selling pressure that can prevent the market from going up in price. So if the moved coins is not sold aggressively then we might be seeing a sideway until the sell pressure is lessen.

Honestly who cares about them? actually they are selling bitcoin they are rightfully theirs, and to me that is good, early bitcoin holders had a lot of bitcoin that could impact the market, we have to see new adoptions that don't have that opportunity. So my view is that you shouldn't be afraid of what whales are doing even if there is a large supply of bitcoins in the market, can't we have a lot of bitcoins when they are cheaper due to their sale?

Whale domination is not one or two, and also we will see more adoption when institutional investors really plunder into the bitcoin market in the future, I really believe the future of bitcoin is brighter with no early era whales.

[Yatsan]

The whales stirred. What should we expect?

Judging by the information coming in, a lot of ancient "crypto whale" wallets that have not created any movement with Bitcoin, for many years, have recently "come to life". Recently, assets have started to be transferred from these wallets to the exchanges. The withdrawal to the exchanges, kind of hints that these amounts are being withdrawn to sell Bitcoin. Question to the esteemed public ! What is this ?
- the end of the short era of cryptocurrencies ? Owners are actively moving into fiat
- the end of the Bitcoin era ? Are they selling it to change cryptoasset for storage ? And what is this crypto asset?
- regulators have "gotten their way", cryptocurrency is losing support and interest ?
- your version ?

We just cannot tell and they're the ones who would more likely determine their actions. Confusion would come from the idea that if these holders are still physically active and are still aware of any price movement then they should have sold with previous ATHs, but what happened is that movements occured during and after the market dip. Unless they are having higher hopes than us with regards to potential market price of Bitcoin in the future, then they are just holding and waiting for more things to happen in particular with the market price of Bitcoin. Bitcoin is still you right? And there's more to happen as well as improvements. Whales transferring their funds won't be really a big deal unless its effects are already visible among us.

[DrBeer]

The crypto whales are on the move! Always a sight to witness, wouldn't you agree? The crypto community is shaken by their actions. Let's take a look into your theories.

Can we now say goodbye to the crypto age? Maybe a little too dramatic for comfort? The cryptosphere has been through many storms, so the awakening of the whales is hardly a signal of impending doom. Second, moving to a new cryptocurrency. It's a possibility. The identity of the asset that a prudent whale would diversify into is currently unknown. "Getting their way" from the regulators? Extremely improbable. Because of their decentralized nature, cryptocurrencies will stubbornly oppose government oversight.

My take? Crypto markets are volatile & these movements are part of the ecosystem's nature

No no no It's not all that bad, and I'm already realizing that I dubbed one of the options as "the sunset of cryptocurrencies" very wrongly I repent

Sunset does not happen like that, the drain of crypto will happen outside the exchanges, without panic, at night. And wake up in the morning - and that's it, cryptocurrency - dust Well, this is also a theoretical option. Do not take it to heart

In fact, variants of change/leadership in the crypto world, speculative movements, preparation for a pampa/dump are the most likely scenarios