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July 23, 2023, 07:51:18 AM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

Have you seen a newbie that got into crypto after learn that they can become a billionaire/millionaire if they enter into crypto? You can still see that kind of energy around them mostly those that have enough capital. So this does not apply to only gamblers.

I do get the fact that gamblers hope is a little different from that of crypto enthusiast since they don't have to do intense research before placing a bet all they have to do is to be familiar with a certain sport and then proceed to opening an account in a bookie. For me I don't think I have ever had that mindset before, probably when I newly got into gambling but now it's not the same case, after developing my mindset towards gambling.

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July 23, 2023, 07:53:42 AM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
I agree about hope. Probably no one has as much hope, hope of winning, as a gambler. But is belief inherent in these players? I tend to think that this is more of a self-deception. If gamblers believe in winning at any cost, but these expectations are not realized, then what is this, if not self-deception? It is true that the players want to win, but 100% knowledge in the subconscious that they will win is nothing but self-deception, because the probability of their winning is negligible (anything less than 100%).

You can live your whole life with the belief of a gambler, but never see the result of this faith come to life.

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July 23, 2023, 08:08:01 AM
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We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
We gamblers have an unrivalled level of love and passion for the game. We always have the optimism and confidence to win the next game, whether we win or lose. Because winning a game you yourself analysed makes you feel like you've conquered the world and motivates you to predict and win again, the work gamblers put into what they do cannot be seen anywhere.

While I have seen this on the past I do not agree this is exclusive to gamblers, to me this is more about the particular personality of each person, whenever I think about doing something I always expect for things to work on my favor, but if not I have a plan B, plan C and so on.
We all have various views, but a lot of gamblers consistently believe they have already won the wager, regardless of their personalities. Some even held the belief that if they have any doubts about winning the bet, they will ultimately lose the bet. We all know that gambling is risky and that there is a 50/50 possibility of winning, yet if I have doubts about my bets I always end up losing the wager.


However in my experience there is a great deal of people out there that never even consider the possibility of things not going their way, and when they inevitably face a setback they are unable to understand at all why this happened and what to do from now on.
Many people gamble without ever thinking that a game might not go in their favour; instead, they just have trust that everything will work out for the best and have no backup plan in case it doesn't. Speaking of backup plans (plan B), what else can be done if gambling doesn't turn out well for them? The only option is to try your luck again and hope for the best.

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July 23, 2023, 08:08:05 AM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
I understand the strong believe of gamblers in winning,  their hope is high and so is the expectations. But then it is common in the sphere of life. Even in cryptocurrency, many people are advised to invest what they are able to lose but yet people buy more than they can afford to lose with the hope that bull run will surely come.
If I want to take instance from another angle, even robbers before they go on operations, they are optimistic that they will have a successful robbery. So, optimism is found in every where and it depends on individual persons. But extreme optimism in gambling is bad because it can lead to addiction.

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July 23, 2023, 08:24:08 AM
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Such beliefs must be broken by changing a healthier mindset, because gambling is not what you think, let alone a place to make money, don't think that gambling will give us a lot of wins because behind that there is a big risk in it that we must understand. besides the belief to win will not lead us to victory in the end.

The house will always win and it must be remembered that the dealer will never lose, so don't get your hopes up too sure and think you can beat the dealer, that alone will break your belief as a gambler because basically gamblers must have a healthy mindset and gamble wisely and don't play too deep too seriously so you don't become an addict, especially with high confidence will lead us to something that is not good.

I would call this overconfidence and if someone is overconfident he will not follow the precautionary measures and hence will lose in gambling. I would call this gambling belief of always winnings as a drawback of the gamblers which leads them to become addicted to gambling.

Why don't gamblers understand that gambling is not an easy money making business unless you have a gambling house? Those gambling houses no doubt earn a lot of money from gambling.

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July 23, 2023, 08:25:02 AM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.

That belief does not come out of nowhere,it is instilled in them by the environment which means that maybe some of their friends have hit it big,some other are inspired by people playing slot machines and showing their play in different streaming channels and it is only natural that gamblers have that high hopes and passion before starting their game play session.

That is also what makes these persons come back to gambling even after losing and this type of behavior even scientists have much difficulty at explaining at 100%,it is deep in our DNA,the greed and desire for money that has no logical explanation at all for me,it is only the hope of making it big that makes gamblers come back.

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July 23, 2023, 08:28:37 AM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
That whole winning energy would do better if diverted into investing in Bitcoin and good altcoins, this will bring them more life-changing money than gambling and the loss won't be like that of gambling.

Bitcoin is down 70% and altcoins are down 98%, the best buying time is now or never, but gambling is all about trying your luck once in a while, maybe twice in a week or a bit more. Gambling is not the right source to channel your energy into something believing to reap you big gains.

Even crypto trading is way better than gambling, but I am not here to confuse gamblers that trading and investing is better, I still engage in gambling myself but I am saying this because of the results I've gotten from all.

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July 23, 2023, 08:35:02 AM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.
This is true for newbie gamblers.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
What about in trading too? It is just like it is in gambling.

What about in hyip and other ponzi schemes of high return promises? Experienced people will not fall for it, but those that are scammed believed even more than gamblers that they will see the high yield return, until they come to their consciousness and right senses after they have been scammed already.

If you are no more a new gambler, you will know that gambling is risky and that it should be done with the money that you can afford to lose. If you do not have such discipline, that is addiction which gamblers should avoid.

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July 23, 2023, 08:51:08 AM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.

This is not absolutely truth. Not all gamblers have this belief in fact, gamblers are one of the doubtful people on top their own profession. They ought to have been betting with their whole life savings if that hope and belief is genuine. The belief and hope is to console ourselves in pretense. The only set of people I have seen with such hope and belief describe in your post are the religious people who serve God with hope and commitment without see, hear or know him but still believe in heaven and hell. Is there anything that can be more fit into what you describe above as religious beliefs? Absolutely none.

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Gambling is an endless hope for gamblers who see gambling as a job or as a means of survival. Such gamblers will end up in misery due to the great loss that they have in the name of having hope to win the next game. If you gamble for fun and set an amount for gambling, you will know that you can't win the house edge and you will also consider losing more than winning. Actually, I must be sincere to you,even though we gamble for fun,we don't have a vision of losing a game but we always want to win the game. Another set of people that are like gamblers that don't give up and have continuous hope are scammers. Scammers come up with different scamming strategy and believes that someone must fall for their trick.

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We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.

I'm not like that there's too much disappointment if you use a strong belief in gambling if it's gambling it can be either way and there's no such thing as 100% sure, I've been busted so many times because of a strong belief on my bet, and it's very disappointed and you are left blaming yourself, it's better to accept whatever outcome than just pushing yourself to win, sometimes you will end betting what you can afford to lose because of too much belief and confident.

You have to draw the line between having a strong belief and giving up, You cannot win, and you cannot beat the house it's better to enjoy the game. Pushing yourself to win because of your strong belief that you will win, will get you in trouble.

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We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
Traders which is the only one I can identify now also have this kind of belief of making profit when they trade. If they did not, they will not be trading in the first place. Just as every gambler even the one playing for fun does not have the mindset that they should just waste money but hope to win as they have fun, and the gamblers who are strictly playing to win both have the belief of winning, No trader is trading just to waste money or for the fun of having the skill. Traders have the belief of winning too.

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When I think of a gambler, hope and belief aren’t what comes to mind. I usually picture the Las Vegas degenerate pawning stolen goods for another spin at the roulette wheel. I think gamblers are more commonly associated with despair and desperation. Not to say there aren’t hopeful gamblers, but I think they’re the exception to the rule.

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That's a gambler belief who's looking to make money through gambling, if it's an educated gambler, they wouldn't belief they will make money through gambling. So if you have a friend or relative that invite you to gamble and they have such belief, it's better to communicate with themselves first before you're getting into trouble where they can't control their addiction to keep gambling until they win.



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July 23, 2023, 09:56:15 AM
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I won't say it is the believe of winning that drives a gambler. I would say it is the hope of making a win that makes the continue with gambling. To an extent this hope is the reason why most get addicted to gambling. They are also superstitious and would tend to avoid anything that they think was the reason for thier loss last time. I feel that basically is just a paranoia that slowly takes over thier mind.

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July 23, 2023, 09:57:51 AM
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We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
Do something full of faith, it is the foundation of someone starting a business and whatever they want to do, it's a fact and reality for people who want to do it.

However, I think that belief has a place, for me we cannot place one belief in gambling, because gambling is a game, where people have to gamble based on strategy, skill, knowledge and so on, in my opinion, belief does not make sense.

Example:
Sports betting for example: Arsenal vs. Leicester City, there are some gamblers, they are very sure that Leicester City will win this match, in fact, Arsenal won on the field.
Likewise with Roulette betting, we believe the yellow round stops, the next round that stops is white, and also other gambling games.

What else do we believe that gambling can make us rich, ahhhh we're finished.

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July 23, 2023, 10:31:21 AM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.

Not really sure what you meant here, and for me, it's a bad analogous in my opinion. Remember that gambling is a risk and it's based on pure luck. What I'm seeing here is just what we call gamblers fallacy and not a belief or commitment per se.

And so in other facets of life, like if you want to succeed then yeah, you have to commit your life to it, let's say you put up a business and want it to grow. But in gambling? it's either you are lucky that day or not. It has nothing to do with your commitment or belief.

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July 23, 2023, 10:58:29 AM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

Of course, when we play, we should be very positive that we are going to win, not just to win, but win big, like in a lottery.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

I disagree though, it could be found in other walks or life. Even when we are very young we already have this kind of mentality. For example, if we take exams in schools, we always belief that we are going to pass it,  Grin

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.

So when we don't have passion or feel like not going to play because we have negative mentality then we should stop gambling then.

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July 23, 2023, 11:58:29 AM
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Maybe it's more precise in my opinion besides because they always believe that they will win too because they get pleasure so that it always makes them go back to gambling even though the results are not what they expected, and again not just at this time but from the very beginning of its appearance gambling is an activity that is difficult to forget or leave not because they are addicted but it is like a common or ordinary activity even though many people also think that gambling is a harmful activity.
But reading what Op said, it does happen to most gamblers who continue to gamble even though they haven't produced anything good or even when they are calculated losses more than earn, they keep playing because they like it, not only because they are optimistic that later they can get good results, but because the feeling of interest in continuing to play is always there, especially when there are types of games that are really they like, such as card games.

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As said by @OP, gamblers are categorized as gamblers who have no self-control because they have hope and belief that they can win from gambling. They should know that they will not always be able to win from gambling and always control themselves in spending their money to gamble. If they can't do that, they are not wise gamblers because they are still following their lust to get winnings from gambling. If they can control themselves, that will save them from ruin or bankruptcy from gambling so they can still enjoy gambling as entertainment.

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