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July 23, 2023, 12:31:32 PM
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To be fair, OP. Even though I agree mostly that mindset can be easily found in gamblers, there is a fairly big percentage of people who are well aware of the risks, those I like to talk not-fully dedicated gamblers or casual gamblers.

I personally believe there is a problem behind the scenes if a person actually believes or have a blind faith their victory is a matter of time rather than matter of mathematics. Actually, even if I do not have further proof about it, I would be willing to say that having that kind of mindset is the first step towards becoming a person addicted to gambling and staying in that position, because as many of us are already aware, stubbornness is an usual characteristic of those who are proven to suffer compulsive gambling. The same stubbornness which can lead toward the loss of money and the support of family and friends...

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July 23, 2023, 01:22:59 PM
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I personally believe there is a problem behind the scenes if a person actually believes or have a blind faith their victory is a matter of time rather than matter of mathematics. Actually, even if I do not have further proof about it, I would be willing to say that having that kind of mindset is the first step towards becoming a person addicted to gambling and staying in that position, because as many of us are already aware, stubbornness is an usual characteristic of those who are proven to suffer compulsive gambling. The same stubbornness which can lead toward the loss of money and the support of family and friends...
Yes, it's true, the mindset of every gambler is different, but when it comes to their beliefs, they share the same goal. I guess it seems like this belief stems from the steps they go through from gambling, maybe because in the beginning they were given a lot of wins or something else. They have their own problems in their gambling, and I think it is very difficult to find evidence or tell what they are experiencing, especially about the problems why they can put so much trust in them because these problems are under the consciousness of every gambler so they are difficult to fix or direct to a better path. For someone who is addicted, this is commonplace for a gambling addicts where most of them will put high hopes and faith in gambling to win.

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July 23, 2023, 01:35:42 PM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.

If you don't believe in it then what's the reason of going into it at the first place, before every gamblers make predictions they've already pictured the benefits of the outcome of the event and decided to risk going into it, so it the believe you've developed for it's success that would trigger you to gamble, the thing is no matter the amount of risk involved in something so far someone has made up their mind and decided to embark on something it's mostly difficult to convince them about it and same applies in gambling, because it would be very difficult to convince young lads that has made huge profit from gambling to quit, because they've been given every benefit out doubt over any advise you try using to talk them out of it.
 Gambling is a game of chance and the belive would also be  there so far you've decided to play especially on online casino where bettors believe outcome of a game must either produce a winner or lesser and would go for their preferred options, in gambling there's nothing like a 100% success and your predictions are based on your believe for any possible outcomes.

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July 23, 2023, 01:56:32 PM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.
Well some of those gamblers had firm believe in winning their bet was usually based on the matches they placed their bet on with regards to soccer betting, for instance if Man City a strong team in EPL is playing a bottom club like Everton they will pick Man City a straight win against Everton though the odd of that pick is very small, they will also analyze matches from other European leagues where top teams are playing lower team and pick top team to win to accumulate their odds with those combination a gambler will tell you that their are chances of winning is a sure bet, well in most cases luck is on there side while at times upset is often created where a lower team drew or even defeat the top team thus ended up in a lossing the bet.
Well some might lucky to have an edge over the bookies in the long run probably that is what is keeping them to continue to gamble.

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July 23, 2023, 03:03:27 PM
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It doesn't hurt to believe on your bet, so long as you are not trusting it blindly and putting a lot of money in it that will put you in a tough position. There's some kind of luck that goes to those who are positive in what they do, although it's mostly superstitious in nature but I do cling to it as it has happened to me a lot of times. Putting faith in what we do is one thing, but leaving rationality behind is another.
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July 23, 2023, 03:28:06 PM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuse to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.
Not all gamblers are like that and should not be like that because this is the kind of gambler that refuse to give up, chasing his losses and allocating more than he can afford its risky behavior, and there should be a point gambler should give up, gambling is not an interest where you can pour and make a strong belief that you can win because the house will always win and you will end up with nothing, only compulsive gamblers do this


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We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief in winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
If I'm this kind of gambler, then gambling will be a source of disappointment for me, I just cross my fingers and hope to win but in the back of my mind I just knew that I could lose, so I just accept whatever the outcome is.

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July 23, 2023, 03:32:14 PM
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Being hopeful is not a bad thing right?
We're all hopeful even the not gamblers. It's just what humans are we are hopeful til we thrive. Tomorrow will be better that is what we always think just as we hope for next year's bull market. And it did happen. 2022 seem to be one of the bearest year but we survived kicking and gambling still. 2023 seems a lot better and gamblers still betting. As long as there is something to hope for like BTC, we remain hopeful.  Grin
By having hope we can be more enthusiastic and have confidence for something better in the future, after all having hope is human nature and cannot be separated from everyone whether in the gambling industry, cryptocurrency or even in social life.
But it needs to be underlined that if you hope too much for something that you feel is impossible, sometimes it will only give you a deep feeling of disappointment, so expect it naturally and don't overdo it because anything can happen, not even according to expectations.

You have to be optimistic once there is nothing else left. Some people put all their hope in one lottery ticket, after learning they didn't win the next day they were alright still. They know it's a long shot. Somehow it's only hope that made some people alive.

Different situations when you won't need to lift your hopes up too much. But gamblers know, that rooting for an upset is a long shot. One go actually bets for the leading team but he gambles and is hopeful.



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July 23, 2023, 03:44:17 PM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.

      -      The belief of a gambler is that they have given up their hope of betting on gambling which can set them free when they get the jackpot prize here and that is hard to overcome in their mind.

They no longer see the value of what they lose in gambling because they think that when they win and get the jackpot, they will get back all the amount they lost in gambling, that's how dedicated they are to their extraordinary belief

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July 23, 2023, 03:55:04 PM
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This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

As a business owner. I do 100% believe that my business will become successful while I think gambling as 50% success rate of winning. Only fools will believe that they will win 100% on gambling since it’s luck based game with house edge disadvantage. All odds is in favor to the casino so being confident on winning to gambling is a very absurd belief.

I think those belief that most people use when gambling is just for the purpose of boosting their spirits to become positive on gambling. But believing that you will be 100% won on a game that is pure random is an absurd thing to do.

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July 23, 2023, 03:57:22 PM
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I personally believe there is a problem behind the scenes if a person actually believes or have a blind faith their victory is a matter of time rather than matter of mathematics. Actually, even if I do not have further proof about it, I would be willing to say that having that kind of mindset is the first step towards becoming a person addicted to gambling and staying in that position, because as many of us are already aware, stubbornness is an usual characteristic of those who are proven to suffer compulsive gambling. The same stubbornness which can lead toward the loss of money and the support of family and friends...
Yes, it's true, the mindset of every gambler is different, but when it comes to their beliefs, they share the same goal. I guess it seems like this belief stems from the steps they go through from gambling, maybe because in the beginning they were given a lot of wins or something else. They have their own problems in their gambling, and I think it is very difficult to find evidence or tell what they are experiencing, especially about the problems why they can put so much trust in them because these problems are under the consciousness of every gambler so they are difficult to fix or direct to a better path. For someone who is addicted, this is commonplace for a gambling addicts where most of them will put high hopes and faith in gambling to win.
Probably the principle of any casino lies in the psychology of gamblers. That is, first give hope or the lure of a big win, and then the gambler falls into the trap of addiction. But probably somewhere there is a strategy, for example in poker or sports betting, and somewhere there is no possibility to influence the outcome, for example in dice or slots.

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July 23, 2023, 04:14:59 PM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
This may apply to him who has won many times, this logic and belief always surrounds him, so what he has they bet on gambling, because with certain reasons he gets the victory again, that belief stands firm in him, and with that they always try to find his victory again, not thinking about returning the money he has deposited into gambling, but he is looking forward to his victory again which gives him pride in his life.

why don't they do that in the other side of life, because i don't think they have the same passion as winning in gambling.

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July 23, 2023, 04:18:48 PM
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Positive thoughts and having hope will make you to be strong in whatever that you are doing. Gamblers will always have hope of winning and that is why most times,you can't convince a gambler not to place his bet on a game. Having hope can attract luck,and luck will bring the wins.

Whenever that I am gambling I do have that feeling of winning the game and when I loss,I will not give up the same feeling in my next game. If anyone knows that he will loss his bet,that person will change his pattern of game because nobody will be happy to lose his money to anyone. All gamblers do have hope of winning, including a responsible gambler and an addicted gambler.

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July 23, 2023, 04:40:22 PM
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Positive thoughts and having hope will make you to be strong in whatever that you are doing. Gamblers will always have hope of winning and that is why most times,you can't convince a gambler not to place his bet on a game. Having hope can attract luck,and luck will bring the wins.

Whenever that I am gambling I do have that feeling of winning the game and when I loss,I will not give up the same feeling in my next game. If anyone knows that he will loss his bet,that person will change his pattern of game because nobody will be happy to lose his money to anyone. All gamblers do have hope of winning, including a responsible gambler and an addicted gambler.

Having hope is natural but it can be a double edged sword for you so you should be very careful with your own hope to win in gambling.
In 1 side, a hope can make you confidence on what you are going to do but in other side it may drive you to the worst case (addiction).
All in all, the most important thing is not belief of having luck but I will say it is belief of having a full control for ourselves while gambling.

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July 23, 2023, 05:39:29 PM
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That belief is the reason why most gamblers keep gambling, otherwise, once you've lost a significant amount by constantly losing the bets, you would never gamble again, but only because they believe that they will win any time soon which makes them keep gambling, but to be honest, the reality usually stays on the other side, no matter how much belief someone has, they will still keep losing in the long run but the belief doesn't let them realize it before it's too late.

People who gamble with this much belief and determination can achieve great things in life if they face the challenges and have the same level of belief that they will get success if they keep struggling and working hard, but unfortunately, their belief doesn't work on other things and they give up easily.

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July 23, 2023, 06:00:12 PM
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honestly I didn't see anyone getting very optimistic when placing a bet, in fact people to be able to win a lot of money in games of chance like sports betting, they need to put a lot of money in the bet, for example if a person bets on a game in which he has @ 1.50 then for that person to win a lot he would have to put a lot of money and his profit would be 50%, if that person is to bet on a game in which he has odds of @ 2.00 then that person will be running a lot of risk of losing money, if a person makes a multibet bet the risk increases so aware of all these obstacles

I don't see people getting too anxious or happy or too optimistic or too hopeful when they place a bet, at least most people don't get hopeful, it could be the case that some newbies get too optimistic on their first bet, but when they lose a lot they immediately start putting their feelings aside and start placing bets based on data and not emotions, this happens to everyone when they start placing sports bets, in my case I went through this too. I remember that at first I was already very optimistic even before seeing the result

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July 23, 2023, 06:07:53 PM
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It doesn't hurt to believe on your bet, so long as you are not trusting it blindly and putting a lot of money in it that will put you in a tough position. There's some kind of luck that goes to those who are positive in what they do, although it's mostly superstitious in nature but I do cling to it as it has happened to me a lot of times. Putting faith in what we do is one thing, but leaving rationality behind is another.

I honestly don't know what OP would want to see instead. Gamblers are believers, that's a fact. Nobody would put thgeir money on the line, not believing in the positive result. If you want to throw it away, you can at least do it with a bang, throw a party, or buy a bunch of firecrackers and watch them light the sky.
There are many other groups of "believers" though. One good example are investors, bitcoiners, people who take on extreme sports... they all believe.

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July 23, 2023, 06:08:56 PM
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The belief that winning a gambling game will definitely win, but without realizing it, the win is only limited to returns that are not proportional to the losses during betting.
playing gambling with high confidence will only make us continue to play until that belief is achieved. And I've experienced it because I'm sure that one day I will definitely win, and the word "someday" will definitely be accompanied by continuing to play. And after that belief was fulfilled and I won, I realized that along the road to victory there were many defeats.
So for now I only play when I have the urge to play, and enjoy the game for fun sometimes luck always happens.
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July 23, 2023, 06:11:49 PM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
I don't know but I disagree with this, not all gamblers has a 100% mindset that they will won the game, some gambler like me always think of the reality that it is not always rainbows and butterflies , sometimes you need to accept that there will loses along the way and only if we are lucky we can win in a row but if we continue that belief that they need to win at all cost it will only made them desperate.
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Just a little story when I play online gambling, I always have confidence that when I experience continuous defeat, I think it means I'm getting closer to a big win. But what happened was the opposite, I only deepened the defeat and I was able to realize it when I ran out of money and had no more friends I could borrow money from. That was the worst thing I ever did when playing gambling and it seems I have to change my mindset when playing gambling because deciding to stop playing gambling is very difficult.

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Interesting, to be honest, I can't say for sure about the beliefs of most gamblers. but for me personally, belief is another matter of the gambling sessions we do. I mean, when I make a deposit, all I have in mind is wanting to have fun with a little money to place bets.

Regardless of what you describe in this thread, I'm not really interested in discussing it. but what got me interesting was the title of this thread, even though there are actually quite a few points that we cover from what you said. talking about gambling beliefs, as I said above. that part of the belief is another matter of the gambling sessions we do.

To be honest, I don't know how other gamblers define it. but for me, it is not a matter of hope and faith. not even a commitment.  but rather, what are we going to do during the gambling session. that's why, I say that belief is another matter than gambling. In fact, I could say the same is the case with luck, which is really another matter than gambling. for me, belief is a process that we have done after I conducted research and analysis regarding the two teams that will compete. Also, don't forget that I will consider all the references I get from the research results. then, after that, belief also appears to be decisive in our betting choices. yep, at least, this is my belief definition for gambling.

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