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July 23, 2023, 07:16:59 PM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.
No matter what you will tell a addicted gambler about the risk associated with gambling, they will never listen to you, if you tell them about how risky gambling is, they will end up telling you that everything in this life is risk, so if you are not ready to take the risk you can never be successful. They are having confidence that if they keep on gambling (taking risk) there will be a time that they will be successful, so that’s why no matter how risky you tell them about gambling, they won’t listen to you.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
Addicted gamblers don’t care about spending everything they are having on gambling, then after losing some might end up regretting, but when they are having money again, they will still end up going back to gambling, and some might not even regret that they lose. The way gambling is risky, nobody should always have assurance that he/she is going to win, no matter how sure you are on the games you played your bet on, slight mistake can happen and you will lose everything, when gambling we shouldn’t be too confident that we are going to win, because if you lose, the shock can cause some health challenges.

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July 23, 2023, 07:30:38 PM
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I personally believe there is a problem behind the scenes if a person actually believes or have a blind faith their victory is a matter of time rather than matter of mathematics. Actually, even if I do not have further proof about it, I would be willing to say that having that kind of mindset is the first step towards becoming a person addicted to gambling and staying in that position, because as many of us are already aware, stubbornness is an usual characteristic of those who are proven to suffer compulsive gambling. The same stubbornness which can lead toward the loss of money and the support of family and friends...
Yes, it's true, the mindset of every gambler is different, but when it comes to their beliefs, they share the same goal. I guess it seems like this belief stems from the steps they go through from gambling, maybe because in the beginning they were given a lot of wins or something else. They have their own problems in their gambling, and I think it is very difficult to find evidence or tell what they are experiencing, especially about the problems why they can put so much trust in them because these problems are under the consciousness of every gambler so they are difficult to fix or direct to a better path. For someone who is addicted, this is commonplace for a gambling addicts where most of them will put high hopes and faith in gambling to win.

Gambling is so old within the civilation and so widespread in western societies that I am sure there must be some paychological studies and papers on the beliefs and thoughts of the regular gambler out there on the internet.

We could argue that addiction to gamble (assuming it has some direct relation to the belief and faith of the people to solve their problems) have a root which comes indeed from unconcious disturbances within the individual, perhaps even dating from the childhood of them. Though, I am more inclined to believe the psycho-chemical theory which associate problem gambling with a production and later need for dopamine and other neurotransmitters in the brain.

We all.get dopamine and serotonine from several natural sources, but if we make gambling the main one then there is a problem building up, in my opinion. One need to diversify one's life with other activities.

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July 23, 2023, 07:54:20 PM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.
Consider in a football match we already had over 89th minutes and score is 0 - 0 but I have a bet of over 2.5 goals. I still like to hope that in the injury minutes we will have these two goals and will win the bet. It happens with me all the time LOL

Not really in most cases no. At least for me. Betting money is more like a thrill that I add to simple games so I can enjoy it. I mean, who would actually enjoy a dice rolling around right? (Well, there might be one or two people who enjoy that, but most don't). Plus, blackjack and poker are fun games in of itself really since it's a PVP type of game. Well, I turned to sports gambling nowadays though so can't speak much about it.
I do not have many experience with casino games like slots, crash these things but with sports betting I always like to feel some miracle is going to happen and I will win.


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July 23, 2023, 07:59:14 PM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
Stick to that belief and those things would changed up 101% on the time that you would really be living on the streets.  Grin

People wouldn't really be stopping on trying out to pursue on what are the things that they do have in mind, on the time that they cant prove it out then they wont stop until they would be experiencing on their very eyes.
These are the people wont really be stopping until they proven it out and on the time that they would be experiencing unfortunate events then this is where regrets do begin.
Gambling is for fun and this is why it would really be wise that you should really be realistic on whatever you are dealing with.

Just be sensible on what gambling is and you wont really be finding yourself that desperate when it comes to various things because if you do have that kind of intent in the first place
on making money with gambling then it would really be an another story.
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July 23, 2023, 08:06:53 PM
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...snip...

This hope from gamblers have made what the crypto industry is today. 99% of the altcoins are pump and dump scams but still gamblers tend to risk their money by playing with these shitcoin waves every now and then. If they are lucky enough, the coin gets pumped like the recent $PEPE or they can crash similar to Squid Game  Grin Researching well before investing is different while comparing to just throwing away the money in the hope of making more money.



We all.get dopamine and serotonine from several natural sources, but if we make gambling the main one then there is a problem building up, in my opinion. One need to diversify one's life with other activities.
I think we can influence our brain habits to churn the dopamine by involving ourselves in positive habits which can indeed help us in staying productive or leading a healthy lifestyle. For example, you can increase your dopamine by opening up your twitter which is indeed a waste of time for quite a few but some have converted it into a positive factor of making money in the recent move of content monetization. The same goes with activities such as going to a gym or writing code. Both are considered to be boring activity by some but if we start practicing these regularly, they will indeed become a habit which can increase your dopamine and thereby help us in leading a healthy lifestyle or improving our productivity.
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July 23, 2023, 08:12:56 PM
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Gambling is so old within the civilation and so widespread in western societies that I am sure there must be some paychological studies and papers on the beliefs and thoughts of the regular gambler out there on the internet.

We could argue that addiction to gamble (assuming it has some direct relation to the belief and faith of the people to solve their problems) have a root which comes indeed from unconcious disturbances within the individual, perhaps even dating from the childhood of them. Though, I am more inclined to believe the psycho-chemical theory which associate problem gambling with a production and later need for dopamine and other neurotransmitters in the brain.

We all.get dopamine and serotonine from several natural sources, but if we make gambling the main one then there is a problem building up, in my opinion. One need to diversify one's life with other activities.
I believe every disfunction has two main factors as causes: an environmental and a biological one. Addiction is executed through a trigger. The individual has to identify this trigger and its cause. Since we talk about environmental factors, it's possible to avoid them by adopting determined measures which can be elaborated by the person himself, or with the help of a professional. Controlling the environment it's possible to reduce considerably the impact of the addiction on the person's life and even completely remiting its symptoms, depending the case and the weight of biological factors.

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July 23, 2023, 08:34:12 PM
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Gambling is so old within the civilation and so widespread in western societies that I am sure there must be some paychological studies and papers on the beliefs and thoughts of the regular gambler out there on the internet.

We could argue that addiction to gamble (assuming it has some direct relation to the belief and faith of the people to solve their problems) have a root which comes indeed from unconcious disturbances within the individual, perhaps even dating from the childhood of them. Though, I am more inclined to believe the psycho-chemical theory which associate problem gambling with a production and later need for dopamine and other neurotransmitters in the brain.

We all.get dopamine and serotonine from several natural sources, but if we make gambling the main one then there is a problem building up, in my opinion. One need to diversify one's life with other activities.
I believe every disfunction has two main factors as causes: an environmental and a biological one. Addiction is executed through a trigger. The individual has to identify this trigger and its cause. Since we talk about environmental factors, it's possible to avoid them by adopting determined measures which can be elaborated by the person himself, or with the help of a professional. Controlling the environment it's possible to reduce considerably the impact of the addiction on the person's life and even completely remiting its symptoms, depending the case and the weight of biological factors.
Usually the trigger would really be having that goal on becoming rich with gambling on which this is the one of the main reason on why people would really be pushing up themselves on playing gambling just because
on having this kind of pursuing on what they do have in mind. Greedy at the same time because they are thinking that with gambling, this is the only way that they could deal fast money or quick cash. If you are still that aware on your actions then for sure you would really be stopping yourself on doing gambling or not really having that kind of intent because if you do have this mainly on your mind then you would
be pushing yourself on playing more.

Gambling is for fun nothingless but there were people who do really have those impressions which are totally different on which this had been the reason on why they do really end up on
losing huge sums of money or messing their life because of their wrong impressions towards it.

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July 23, 2023, 08:46:23 PM
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Just a little story when I play online gambling, I always have confidence that when I experience continuous defeat, I think it means I'm getting closer to a big win. But what happened was the opposite, I only deepened the defeat and I was able to realize it when I ran out of money and had no more friends I could borrow money from. That was the worst thing I ever did when playing gambling and it seems I have to change my mindset when playing gambling because deciding to stop playing gambling is very difficult.

Yeah, if I'm not mistaken, everyone has experienced it and what the OP described. However, belief has no effects on our winning or losing, it is still base on luck specially casino games.

But for sports betting like in NBA or Football, it might be different though as we always think that just one single goal will change the outcome of the game in our favor. So maybe we believed that even in the last seconds, a player will hit that goal or basket to give us that big win.

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July 23, 2023, 08:59:12 PM
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Maybe you think that it's not been seen in other walks of life but in reality it is. But having the comparison of people that are into business and into gambling, there's a huge disparity between both of them.

We all have our ways and beliefs that makes us more productive and with those beliefs, in gamblers' there are also those belief. But sometimes, they're just the typical ones when we're losing money.

I don't think that there's a person that doesn't have that feeling of winning is there, everyone is wanting to win and whether it's just a small amount, we don't want to miss it out.

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July 23, 2023, 09:03:16 PM
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The passion is directly related to dopamine in our brain as gamblers, we enjoy chasing big slot hits and this experience can't be felt the same in other activities, IMO. Beliefs and passions of gamblers are perfect reasons why many gamblers are addicted to this industry and they are not aware of potential problems that can be caused by gambling. The struggle becomes real when they lose all life savings in the gambling platforms and then look for loans to recover the previous losses, unfortunately.

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Gambling is so old within the civilation and so widespread in western societies that I am sure there must be some paychological studies and papers on the beliefs and thoughts of the regular gambler out there on the internet.

We could argue that addiction to gamble (assuming it has some direct relation to the belief and faith of the people to solve their problems) have a root which comes indeed from unconcious disturbances within the individual, perhaps even dating from the childhood of them. Though, I am more inclined to believe the psycho-chemical theory which associate problem gambling with a production and later need for dopamine and other neurotransmitters in the brain.

We all.get dopamine and serotonine from several natural sources, but if we make gambling the main one then there is a problem building up, in my opinion. One need to diversify one's life with other activities.
I believe every disfunction has two main factors as causes: an environmental and a biological one. Addiction is executed through a trigger. The individual has to identify this trigger and its cause. Since we talk about environmental factors, it's possible to avoid them by adopting determined measures which can be elaborated by the person himself, or with the help of a professional. Controlling the environment it's possible to reduce considerably the impact of the addiction on the person's life and even completely remiting its symptoms, depending the case and the weight of biological factors.
Usually the trigger would really be having that goal on becoming rich with gambling on which this is the one of the main reason on why people would really be pushing up themselves on playing gambling just because
on having this kind of pursuing on what they do have in mind. Greedy at the same time because they are thinking that with gambling, this is the only way that they could deal fast money or quick cash. If you are still that aware on your actions then for sure you would really be stopping yourself on doing gambling or not really having that kind of intent because if you do have this mainly on your mind then you would
be pushing yourself on playing more.

Gambling is for fun nothingless but there were people who do really have those impressions which are totally different on which this had been the reason on why they do really end up on
losing huge sums of money or messing their life because of their wrong impressions towards it.

If someone really wants to become rich with gambling, the best way to go about it would be to play the lottery from time to time and get lucky. If someone is not rich already, how would gambling make that person rich ever? I don't have any calculated numbers, but I would suppose that turning 20 bucks into 20 million bucks in a casino is maybe as likely as winning a lottery for the same money. If they have to get started with small steps in a casino, their luck may not be exhausted for a very long time to become rich in the literal sense. They either hit the jackpot or they just won't get close to becoming rich ever. If they were playing heads or tails and double the money every time and they start with a dollar, it would be ridiculously unlikely to turn that dollar into a million.

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From what could be said about this talk of believe and hopes amongst gamblers after placing their bet is like wishing oneself goodluck on your bet. No man goes hunting with a lost hope. The hunter for instance didn't keep any animal in the bush before he decides to go hunting, but his belief and hopes that he would come back home with a catch is one no different from that of a gambler who just made a bet at a casino. Some of us when we place a bet, we already feel like we own the money already but the euphoria cuts short when the game is a loss one.
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
Because people need hope in their lives, that makes them happy. At least it makes me happy. I know that if i would look purely statistics i probably wouldn't even gamble, but i want to have a life where i don't need to base my every decision on statistics. That's not living imho. I need to give luck a change and sometimes go against all odds. Because i find life boring on making just safe choices.

I am not saying that anyone should make irresponsible choices but you can live inbetween to have an exciting life. Nothing to reckless but if you only want to make safe choices, soon life won't be worth living if you afraid of taking changes.

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July 23, 2023, 09:45:16 PM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.

"Hope" is a cherish word that people rely on when you have nothing to rely on, it's like not having a money and broke but people have promised to pay back the money they owe you but you don't know if they will actually payback but you hope they will pay back, that's how gamblers hope in their games in general, but  accepting loss is something to readily get used to when your results are not what you had in mind, if you can accept profit with cool mind, loss is a minor thing to accept as well, only a psychopathic gambler will refuse to accept loss.

I have a notion and it's simple, ones a game is been stake with the little I can afford to lose, I don't expect it to win any game for me, that's how I picture it on my mind and most often I always get surprised if my win any game I bet because I don't expect them to win, I played with the little skills and the experience, it doesn't go beyond that strategy.

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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.
High expectations, low reality.
This is a general description for gambling addicts who really cannot gamble professionally. Why do I say unprofessional, because when there is a professional gambler, he really knows when to enter and leave, and knows what his chances are of winning at that time. Not only that, usually they don't rely on luck but indeed their abilities in gambling.

but for gamblers who are already addicted and incapable, aka often relying on luck, this really happens a lot. They always believe and always have high hopes that this time they will win, and so on until they have nothing because their treasures run out.

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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling.

Obviously, seeing a gambler not hoping for a win doesn't make sense.

Indeed, most gamblers do hope for a win. 

That's why I don't believe in those "gambling for fun" reasons especially for those casual gamblers wherein the money loses at gambling is just fine because they are gambling for fun. What a bullsh*t reason right?

Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

Being a positive gambler is a good trait while gambling since their mind will be relaxed and surely won't be pressured to win.

Let them understand and realize what gambling will really bring by themselves.

Telling them the risks of gambling is fine but if they are really eager to push for it, then let them be. And

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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.
High expectations, low reality.
This is a general description for gambling addicts who really cannot gamble professionally. Why do I say unprofessional, because when there is a professional gambler, he really knows when to enter and leave, and knows what his chances are of winning at that time. Not only that, usually they don't rely on luck but indeed their abilities in gambling.

but for gamblers who are already addicted and incapable, aka often relying on luck, this really happens a lot. They always believe and always have high hopes that this time they will win, and so on until they have nothing because their treasures run out.

And most of the time, you will encounter gambling addicts who don't know their boundaries.
The reason why this industry is negative to most because of some gamblers displaying negative attitude when they are on the losing side.
Just a simple example, gamblers who have large debts and still continue to play hoping that they will hit the jackpot and pay their loans.
Well, they are showing hope but on a different light. Hoping that someday they will be rich playing their games. But mostly will end up broke.
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Having hope doesn't guarantee a winning though... Buh even with these valid interjections, they'll still wanna try and that's exactly the reasons anyone (gambler) would wanna hold on...
About the fun, people have different things in mind when gambling, but the sole aim for whatever anyone would think of at the time, would certainly result in "winning" or "not losing excessively".. nobody enjoys losing - be it for fun or whatever pleasure, especially when it doesn't have any material benefits to show forth, so the mindset certainly differs.
On that notion, I CANNOT advice anyone to expect too much cus as long as you're gambling, it remains a game of Chance and should be left at that.

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July 23, 2023, 10:07:49 PM
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I personally believe there is a problem behind the scenes if a person actually believes or have a blind faith their victory is a matter of time rather than matter of mathematics. Actually, even if I do not have further proof about it, I would be willing to say that having that kind of mindset is the first step towards becoming a person addicted to gambling and staying in that position, because as many of us are already aware, stubbornness is an usual characteristic of those who are proven to suffer compulsive gambling. The same stubbornness which can lead toward the loss of money and the support of family and friends...
Yes, it's true, the mindset of every gambler is different, but when it comes to their beliefs, they share the same goal. I guess it seems like this belief stems from the steps they go through from gambling, maybe because in the beginning they were given a lot of wins or something else. They have their own problems in their gambling, and I think it is very difficult to find evidence or tell what they are experiencing, especially about the problems why they can put so much trust in them because these problems are under the consciousness of every gambler so they are difficult to fix or direct to a better path. For someone who is addicted, this is commonplace for a gambling addicts where most of them will put high hopes and faith in gambling to win.
Probably the principle of any casino lies in the psychology of gamblers. That is, first give hope or the lure of a big win, and then the gambler falls into the trap of addiction. But probably somewhere there is a strategy, for example in poker or sports betting, and somewhere there is no possibility to influence the outcome, for example in dice or slots.

I have this personal idea about casinos, specially traditional ones, benefit more from functional gamblers than addiction crippled people. In the short term, someone who has fallen into gambling addiction will eventually lose all their money to the casino, but that would also imply such person could lose their hability to function approperly as a member of society and lose their source of income.

On the other hand, a person who is a functional gambler can continue to work, socialize and come back to spend on the casino, not only gambling but also in other goods and services in the resort, all of it in the long term.

That is just my point of view, of course.

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July 23, 2023, 10:24:31 PM
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Hope is a good thing, until you let it poison you.

It's good and great and all that but sometimes staying grounded and realistic will save you from trouble too. Such as with gambling, you can't stay hopeful and faithful to the process cause you know out of all people that the process is rigged against you and it will come for your ass if you let it. So staying a little realistic and setting up boundaries is just as important as having the propensity to take risks. Just as what some people have told you about in this thread, having hope is not going to guarantee you wins. It just gives you the confidence to make those choices and switch up when you need to. You have to differentiate staying hopeful to copium and making belligerent choices in the name of profit.

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