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July 24, 2023, 07:32:48 PM
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After all, you gamble by believing in gambling. You don't just say, "I'm going to give my money to this guy and I'm going to lose it," because you believe that your gambling will make you money because of your own analytical ability or luck.
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Even if you have your last 1 dollar left, maybe with that 1 dollar you will start dreaming of becoming a millionaire.

I think you explained it very well, we (gamblers/degens) never plan to just "throw the money away", there's always that hope that we will have some luck and that we will hit some good multiplier. Even when we come to the last bets we still hope for that "lucky hit" that will recover our balance with some extra profit...

But after so many years of gambling, something that comes with experience, I guess most of us are also very realistic about gambling. We know our chances and it's not going to be a disaster if we lose... we know that things can go both ways in gambling in seconds/minutes.
This is actually a feeling or emotion that all gamblers have. For some reason, when you get involved in gambling, everyone has such an expectation and we can meet this as normal. Recently, a friend of mine made a profit of about 200 dollars with his last 1 dollar. This is actually due to the fact that we know / hope that things can turn around in an instant, no matter how desperate we are.

When you spend a lot of time in this industry, when you analyze and bet a lot, we know that it's time for things to change.We learn with experience where to stand, how much to bet and what kind of risk to take.It may cost us a little bit, but the experience gained at the end is priceless.As you said, we know that even seconds matter in gambling.This can be a football match or an e-sports match.Things can change at any time and we need to gamble in a way that we can take this risk.
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July 24, 2023, 07:45:49 PM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
is there any in-depth research on this topic of yours?

why do you generalize everything into one conclusion, fear must be possessed by gamblers because fear is one of human nature but self-confidence masks that fear.  people might think when i gamble, i'm not afraid of losing money but to be honest in my heart, i'm very afraid of losing money when gambling because getting money is a difficult thing nowadays but my confidence covers it especially in gambling which i'm very good at so the defeats i receive are very few.
Or is it possible that the adrenaline triggers us to continue our gambling activity?  We all know that in between the roll and result there is an adrenaline pumped experience.  Many people are addicted to this kind of feeling reason why the often sort it out by simply raising the bet amount in order to meet the needed adrenaline.

Anyway, I also think that gamblers hope for the best result but I think there is a difference between believe and hope in this case.  Gamblers often hope to win in every bet but they know that it is wrong to believe that every bet will win.
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July 24, 2023, 09:15:37 PM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.
Reading this post just reminds me of my friend, I can  say when it comes to someone believing in predictions he is certainly the man with all the faith but funny sometimes when I get frustrated by my parley selection I usually try an opposite mentality on the games like thinking opposite of what I predicted to see if the outcome turns out good for me because most times when I believe my bet are going to play it usually just end up being lost.

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July 24, 2023, 09:38:37 PM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.

This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.

We are not talking about the result which comes later on, once they gamble. They may lose too but the passion and belief of winning among the gamblers can't be seen anywhere else.

I don't agree with this. I saw many people who started a loss-making business (this was evident even in theoretical calculations), but for some reason they believed that luck would smile on them and they would get rich. Or even those whose business for some reason became unprofitable, but they refused to accept this reality and "get off a dead horse." People are often irrational and this manifests itself not only in gambling but in all areas of our lives.

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July 24, 2023, 11:15:54 PM
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Every gambler believes that one day,they are going to win it big, that they are going to turn billionaires overnight without stressing themselves while making the money.Every gambler believes that it is better to die trying than not trying at all,every gambler believes that winners don't quit,and quitters never win so they won't ever quit trying.These and many more are what gamblers believes that keeps them going,they so much believe that in as much as some persons have won it big,they might still win it big someday,but one thing they fail to know is that luck varies,and grace varies,for the fact that it worked for Mr.A does not mean it will definitely work for B,but some persons,despite trying so many times and no avail,they don't ever want  to retreat,they just want to keep trying untill it will favour them.Winning  is not always quaranteed,but they choose to just continue loosing,and nomatter what,they will always want to try.

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July 24, 2023, 11:46:11 PM
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The hope of a gambler often leads them into situations they often regret upon losing the funds that was meant for something else. Courage to do so without minding the cost is what even makes the gamblers belief in hope much stronger.

OP, you know we can also allot pride and ego to fit very well with hope in this gamblers corner, because the hope of winning must have been spurred from previous wins, and the mind that the cash used for gambling is inexhaustible and sufficient.
Inasmuch as what drives the gambler is different for different folks, hope for some individuals is nothing more of a believe in a better tomorrow and it has been programmed in the subconscious.
It only really manifest because the person has channeled it to focus on gambling.
Sometimes, hope is a poison. When people rely on hope and forget to ground themselves in reality, and in turn they make the most deranged of choices in the name of hope and hoping that the odds will be in their favor, that's when things go sour. It's one thing to be hopeful, it's another to be delusional and think that just because you've been dealt a bad hand 99% of the time, the next try's going to give you the win you need. Life doesn't work like that, if it does then trying would be the biggest business and vocation now.

I hate that OP painted this stupid notion of the addicted gambler's mindset as if it's something to applaud and glorify, people lost lives and money because of this false hope, if you're going to depict hope in it's purest form find a different example lol.

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July 25, 2023, 01:26:15 AM
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Gamblers will do everything just to win in gambling , even selling their soul for demon ( not everyone of course) just to make a winning ?
but what we can find on those belief are losers , but yet ? they are not stopping lol.
their faith in gambling is like their faith in how long they will live in this world.
Because you are gambling, that does not mean you will sell your sole for demon. Because you are gambling, that does not mean you can do anything bad because you want to win.

Gamblers can lose and they are more prone to losses. But I noticed that you are generalizing this thing as if every gambler is an addict because what you are saying are just for addicts.
if you happen to read it completely , I did not generalized all gamblers instead  i said not everyone , because lets admit the fact that once the gamblers turn addicted and given a chance to do such thing , i believe they can act to what I said but this only addressed those desperate gamblers and not the majority .
but doing bad just to win is indeed happening that is why there are lots of cheaters or even those taking advantage of the opportunity even if this is wrong because they wanted to win.

but I agreed in that point of yours because gamblers are prone to losing as in 70-90% and only the remaining percent is their chance to win.

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July 25, 2023, 01:49:14 AM
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And that keeps me staying despite constant losses. Just one big win, that is what I'm waiting and I will keep my distance in gambling. My hopes always shattered after I lost and at the same time reconstructed when starting a new session. I'm still very optimistic that one day, that one big win I'm waiting for will come.
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July 25, 2023, 07:19:29 AM
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This type of belief and commitment is not found in any other walk of life. People doing business or spending money somewhere have doubt and fear that things can do against them, and they may face loss too but the gamblers are so firm in their belief that they never look at the other side of the picture. They want the win, and they 100% know in their subconsciousness that they will win. that is the reason they will never hesitate to put money into gambling.


I don't know, this sounds like a gambler who wasn't actually gambled in their life before and want to try it out now. Everybody that has visited a casino on a regular basis knows that we can't win 100% of the time. Losses are common in gambling and if we expect to win every night, we should find out the reality very quickly. Everybody wants to make money and win in gambling, but our positive thinking can't protect us from losses. The games we play at the casino are the same for everybody, if all gamblers would expect to win all the time, then the casino would go bankrupt very quickly. We shouldn't be listening to our brain if it tells us that we are going to win all the time. Having a strong belief helps people through hard times, so I would expect we rather need a strong belief when we are facing a losing streak, than when we are facing a winning streak. Another question is where the belief is coming from, some people take their belief from religion, others from physics. When it comes to gambling, I think we should be realists and focus on the mathematics behind the casino games and not to trust in a higher power that will let us win in the end.
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July 25, 2023, 07:26:08 AM
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And that keeps me staying despite constant losses. Just one big win, that is what I'm waiting and I will keep my distance in gambling. My hopes always shattered after I lost and at the same time reconstructed when starting a new session. I'm still very optimistic that one day, that one big win I'm waiting for will come.
Your chance to win will come one day but you must be patient. You have to be careful when betting so you don't experience a big loss and try to play gambling in moderation and not overly. With that, you can enjoy your gambling time and maybe it can trigger your luck to come. And I hope you are not frustrated by your defeat because it can trigger you to deposit more money just to chase victory. Don't let curiosity about winning make you gamble longer so you won't experience big losses.

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July 25, 2023, 08:14:49 AM
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The never give up attitude towards gambling can be seen with limited number of gamblers whereas the majority of the gamblers have known well about the situation and makes an exit/break. When it comes to gambling the never give up won't work as we all depending on luck for sinner, lunch. Never give up attitude should be carried when you follow your dreams or follow your passion.
Rightly said, when it comes to gambling you have to learn to control your emotions. Gambling is such an addiction that even after losing, there is an urge to win again which leads to losses. There is really no such thing as controlling one's emotions. It's like fighting with yourself having a conflict with the mind. But the special quality of man, he can do what he wants. No matter how difficult self-control is it is possible if you have your own will controlling emotions is part of self-control.

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July 29, 2023, 12:21:25 AM
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And that keeps me staying despite constant losses. Just one big win, that is what I'm waiting and I will keep my distance in gambling. My hopes always shattered after I lost and at the same time reconstructed when starting a new session. I'm still very optimistic that one day, that one big win I'm waiting for will come.
Depending on how big you are expecting that win to be your chances of obtaining it can go from being on the low side to be almost impossible to happen during your lifetime.

An example of this is the lottery which is a very popular gambling game, but at the same time it is almost impossible to win big as your odds are millions against one, so if you are not careful it is entirely possible you could run out of money before you even come close to get win you are looking for.
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July 29, 2023, 12:37:21 AM
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If you want to see a person full of hope and belief, then gamblers are the perfect example. The hope of winning and the belief to win is found in gambling. Even if you tell them that gambling is risky and the result may come out differently (not in his favor), they refuses to accept it and have 100% belief that they will win at any cost.


What's is a man without a thought of actually believing in something, even outside gambling humans all tend to put their faith in something believing in some of theory that's follow it and that's same sense that kicks in for every gambler because it's help feel they are know and even after seeing the results the drive to keep pushing is always there because they know and feel that one day they will get it right and this part of human nature is what have actually kept the gambling industry alive because these of humans are the ones that patronize the industry continually.
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July 29, 2023, 01:13:49 AM
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And that keeps me staying despite constant losses. Just one big win, that is what I'm waiting and I will keep my distance in gambling. My hopes always shattered after I lost and at the same time reconstructed when starting a new session. I'm still very optimistic that one day, that one big win I'm waiting for will come.
I'm not really sure what you meant by just one big win, unless it's really big like a lottery ticket winning. But if it just a regular win, then it might be very difficult to quit. On the contrary, you might want to think to come back and play for more as you have tasted winning already.

And if again, if you are thinking about lottery winnings, the odds are very slim. Although no one can stop you from trying to try to luck and win. Because we have heard countless stories of individuals who try to bet on lottery for the first time and then win as well. But it will take extreme luck to hit that jackpot and become a single winner.

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July 29, 2023, 02:41:14 AM
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Your chance to win will come one day but you must be patient. You have to be careful when betting so you don't experience a big loss and try to play gambling in moderation and not overly. With that, you can enjoy your gambling time and maybe it can trigger your luck to come. And I hope you are not frustrated by your defeat because it can trigger you to deposit more money just to chase victory. Don't let curiosity about winning make you gamble longer so you won't experience big losses.
There's nothing wrong with us grabbing good opportunities of the gambling system, we win and lose that's how the system operates. The earlier one get acquainted with it, the better. No one would be happy if they continue to record streak losses, there's always chance to try again because there would be opportunities in the system. I totally agreed with you, gambling for such a long period of time would only do one no good rather we remained stuck in the space and more vulnerable to whatever challenges that comes our way, and more efficiently we record losses on a daily basis.

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