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September 28, 2023, 11:57:36 PM
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a slightly bad experience for yourself when you do not have any limits in gambling and fortunately you have realized this and changed your bad habits for the better,  
yeah i think so, otherwise it could be worse. Still I'm not a professional in this field. And i don't think set up any specific target, is good for gambler cause thus you can not skip gambling until your potential winning amount is archived. Thats why you need to spend a lot of time, need to keep waiting until the perfect gaming situation come or place randomly which could be end up losing a lot. Cause luck won't support you always. So better to make it enjoyable than inject more money to gambling repeatedly to archive potential winning target after so many loses

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September 29, 2023, 10:29:47 PM
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a slightly bad experience for yourself when you do not have any limits in gambling and fortunately you have realized this and changed your bad habits for the better,  
yeah i think so, otherwise it could be worse. Still I'm not a professional in this field. And i don't think set up any specific target, is good for gambler cause thus you can not skip gambling until your potential winning amount is archived. Thats why you need to spend a lot of time, need to keep waiting until the perfect gaming situation come or place randomly which could be end up losing a lot. Cause luck won't support you always. So better to make it enjoyable than inject more money to gambling repeatedly to archive potential winning target after so many loses
well, in this scenario I will explain further that the limit I mean is only for diversion so as not to enter the addiction zone, such as when someone bets without having a winning limit, they will bet continuously ignoring the amount they get even though they have already won quite well, but if continuing to gamble feeling comfortable will be very dangerous because a gambling addiction is not just about chasing victory, but if someone is too comfortable entertaining themselves or having fun gambling, they will indirectly become addicted without them realizing it. so I say this limitation to avoid bad things as I said before.

and regarding luck I think that most gamblers who know how gambling works will know that gambling is a place to gamble on luck and luck will not come all the time.

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September 29, 2023, 11:55:54 PM
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 yeah i think so, otherwise it could be worse. Still I'm not a professional in this field. And i don't think set up any specific target, is good for gambler cause thus you can not skip gambling until your potential winning amount is archived. Thats why you need to spend a lot of time, need to keep waiting until the perfect gaming situation come or place randomly which could be end up losing a lot. Cause luck won't support you always. So better to make it enjoyable than inject more money to gambling repeatedly to archive potential winning target after so many loses

The professional gamblers itself play the gambling based on the knowledge he had accrued from their experience.Some gambler get addicted to the gambling by making some target fixed on the gambling to achieve based on the loss to the gambling.If the gambler had loss some money,it may leads to the targeting of the loss money and finally the gambling addiction.Once the gambler get into the addiction,he had a capacity to big win or big loss by the continuous game using all the money he get from the exconomic sources.
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September 30, 2023, 06:24:34 AM
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 yeah i think so, otherwise it could be worse. Still I'm not a professional in this field. And i don't think set up any specific target, is good for gambler cause thus you can not skip gambling until your potential winning amount is archived. Thats why you need to spend a lot of time, need to keep waiting until the perfect gaming situation come or place randomly which could be end up losing a lot. Cause luck won't support you always. So better to make it enjoyable than inject more money to gambling repeatedly to archive potential winning target after so many loses

The professional gamblers itself play the gambling based on the knowledge he had accrued from their experience.Some gambler get addicted to the gambling by making some target fixed on the gambling to achieve based on the loss to the gambling.If the gambler had loss some money,it may leads to the targeting of the loss money and finally the gambling addiction.Once the gambler get into the addiction,he had a capacity to big win or big loss by the continuous game using all the money he get from the exconomic sources.

Gambler who set a certain target for just winning alone is very prone to losing a lot of money, since if they fail to achieve their target they will continue adding more to their bankroll, and the amount that they lost will be added to the amount that they targeting to recover back, that's something that will generate more pressure and if a gambler can't resist that he will be push to keep playing and addiction will follow after many attempts of winning but failed to achieved.

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September 30, 2023, 02:18:12 PM
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yeah i think so, otherwise it could be worse. Still I'm not a professional in this field. And i don't think set up any specific target, is good for gambler cause thus you can not skip gambling until your potential winning amount is archived. Thats why you need to spend a lot of time, need to keep waiting until the perfect gaming situation come or place randomly which could be end up losing a lot. Cause luck won't support you always. So better to make it enjoyable than inject more money to gambling repeatedly to archive potential winning target after so many loses
If you just wait for winnings to come while you don't know when your luck will come, it is not worth doing because you will probably gamble and use other money in that waiting period. That is why we can only use gambling as a way to have fun without any intention of chasing victory because we already know that winning is not easy. And if we have a winning target that must be achieved, we should delete it because it will only make it difficult for us to gamble. And instead of enjoying gambling as entertainment, we will try hard to win. It will make us forget our purpose in gambling.
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September 30, 2023, 02:40:38 PM
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yeah i think so, otherwise it could be worse. Still I'm not a professional in this field. And i don't think set up any specific target, is good for gambler cause thus you can not skip gambling until your potential winning amount is archived. Thats why you need to spend a lot of time, need to keep waiting until the perfect gaming situation come or place randomly which could be end up losing a lot. Cause luck won't support you always. So better to make it enjoyable than inject more money to gambling repeatedly to archive potential winning target after so many loses
If you just wait for winnings to come while you don't know when your luck will come, it is not worth doing because you will probably gamble and use other money in that waiting period. That is why we can only use gambling as a way to have fun without any intention of chasing victory because we already know that winning is not easy. And if we have a winning target that must be achieved, we should delete it because it will only make it difficult for us to gamble. And instead of enjoying gambling as entertainment, we will try hard to win. It will make us forget our purpose in gambling.

That's all want to happen since we need that luck to came but its just we need to know on when is the best time to quite to make sure that we can totally enjoy the lucky times we experience and don't feel sorry about the missing chances that come to us. If other set some goal to win then its fine since it rise up their competitive spirit then try to win although sometimes it result bad for us but if we enjoy playing then playing serves its purpose since we enjoy the game and that's good to us. If some players try to get some win playing then its fine, we have different intentions on why we play on gambling and also if we only aim to have fun for sure we will not get that especially if we lose since the one we receive for that scenario is head ache also stress for losing our money.

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October 01, 2023, 09:44:47 PM
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That's all want to happen since we need that luck to came but its just we need to know on when is the best time to quite to make sure that we can totally enjoy the lucky times we experience and don't feel sorry about the missing chances that come to us. If other set some goal to win then its fine since it rise up their competitive spirit then try to win although sometimes it result bad for us but if we enjoy playing then playing serves its purpose since we enjoy the game and that's good to us. If some players try to get some win playing then its fine, we have different intentions on why we play on gambling and also if we only aim to have fun for sure we will not get that especially if we lose since the one we receive for that scenario is head ache also stress for losing our money.
We will never know when is the best time to win a gambling game. We can only try gambling from time to time, but we have to realize that if we gamble from time to time, we will only experience loss, and maybe the loss will be bigger than we imagined. If they have a goal of winning, we don't need to follow it and set our own goals so that we are not lured into using more money and will avoid using too much money. We only play gambling to get pleasure and not win because we have learned that winning from gambling will never be easy. That's why we don't need to chase a win rather than experience frustration because we have lost in a row and cannot recover from that loss.
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October 01, 2023, 10:59:14 PM
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My main focus on this thread is in this question: as a gambler do you place your bet according to the weight of your financial need or you're always okay with whatever amount that comes out as potential win no matter how small amount?

I do not place my bet according to the weight of my financial need. I am okay with whatever amount I win irrespective of whether it is small or big. If I have an urgent financial need to be met, I find a second job , I asked a family or friend to loan me some money, I sell some personal items or my Bitcoin and solve the money problem.

Well I want to believe that it is only newbie gamblers who would only gamble base on potential winning amount. And it tells me that the mom in they are going to use for gambling is money that they know that they cannot avoid to lose.

Better to have a limit  and be satisfied,  I mean if you already have some amount of winning and you can quit or stop on that spot, you should do that,  those who seek for something that  isn't easy to achieve might suffer a huge losses, unless you really practicing that kind of strategy and you are willing to let go the amount of money that you  deposited,  then you are good to go.

There are some who can and some who can't,  all depends from how a gambler deals with the setup that he's aiming for that sessions and the level of satisfaction that they have.
  If you are a long time gambler, I bet you  know already that gambling will not guarantee secured profits, so it's really better to be satisfied even with small winnings because that is already your profits. Trying to chase more for additional winnings will only put your profits at risk, thus eventually losing them in the process. Although some gamblers still hesitant to stop when they are winning already, but it's always the best thing to do for a gambler.

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October 01, 2023, 11:37:48 PM
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The gambler should take care about the money involved for the daily limit of the gambling.The gambler should not play till he reach the gambling deposit limit,because the gambler will get addicted once they play till the deposit amount limit.The continuous involvement alone enough for the big win in the gambling.You should not depressed on some loss in the gambling,your luck answer the loss in one day.The tactics to the gambling may be useful to make sure winning in the gambling some times.

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October 02, 2023, 05:05:57 AM
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That's all want to happen since we need that luck to came but its just we need to know on when is the best time to quite to make sure that we can totally enjoy the lucky times we experience and don't feel sorry about the missing chances that come to us. If other set some goal to win then its fine since it rise up their competitive spirit then try to win although sometimes it result bad for us but if we enjoy playing then playing serves its purpose since we enjoy the game and that's good to us. If some players try to get some win playing then its fine, we have different intentions on why we play on gambling and also if we only aim to have fun for sure we will not get that especially if we lose since the one we receive for that scenario is head ache also stress for losing our money.
We will never know when is the best time to win a gambling game. We can only try gambling from time to time, but we have to realize that if we gamble from time to time, we will only experience loss, and maybe the loss will be bigger than we imagined. If they have a goal of winning, we don't need to follow it and set our own goals so that we are not lured into using more money and will avoid using too much money. We only play gambling to get pleasure and not win because we have learned that winning from gambling will never be easy. That's why we don't need to chase a win rather than experience frustration because we have lost in a row and cannot recover from that loss.

If you don't want to add more frustration to yourself, treating gambling as a venue for enjoyment or entertainment will allow you not to stress yourself.

The common mistake from most gamblers is they are aiming for big wins instead of enjoying small percentage being added to their
current bankroll, they wanted to have that easy double and if that won't happen, they being aggressive and tried to set their bets to max.

once they lose that bet, the common reaction is to add more and deposit money to try recovering, but eventually the outcome is
the same with the first attempt.
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October 02, 2023, 10:40:43 AM
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That's all want to happen since we need that luck to came but its just we need to know on when is the best time to quite to make sure that we can totally enjoy the lucky times we experience and don't feel sorry about the missing chances that come to us. If other set some goal to win then its fine since it rise up their competitive spirit then try to win although sometimes it result bad for us but if we enjoy playing then playing serves its purpose since we enjoy the game and that's good to us. If some players try to get some win playing then its fine, we have different intentions on why we play on gambling and also if we only aim to have fun for sure we will not get that especially if we lose since the one we receive for that scenario is head ache also stress for losing our money.
We will never know when is the best time to win a gambling game. We can only try gambling from time to time, but we have to realize that if we gamble from time to time, we will only experience loss, and maybe the loss will be bigger than we imagined. If they have a goal of winning, we don't need to follow it and set our own goals so that we are not lured into using more money and will avoid using too much money. We only play gambling to get pleasure and not win because we have learned that winning from gambling will never be easy. That's why we don't need to chase a win rather than experience frustration because we have lost in a row and cannot recover from that loss.
You say it honestly. Gambling is chaotic. Like chasing the wind? Nobody knows when luck will smile. Correct: it's a slippery slope. The excitement and anticipation of winning might draw us in. Soon, we're drowning in losses bigger than we expected.

What's our goal? The winner? Is it the thrill, excitement, escape from the daily grind? Every time we feel tempted to gamble, we should ask ourselves. As you said, setting objectives and knowing limits is essential. Experience, satisfaction, and fun matter more than winning. If it's not entertaining, why bother? It's about balance, knowing when to intervene and when to leave. It's hard yet necessary. Chase joy, laughter, and good times, not wins, and let the chips fall where they may.

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October 04, 2023, 02:12:39 PM
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If you don't want to add more frustration to yourself, treating gambling as a venue for enjoyment or entertainment will allow you not to stress yourself.

The common mistake from most gamblers is they are aiming for big wins instead of enjoying small percentage being added to their
current bankroll, they wanted to have that easy double and if that won't happen, they being aggressive and tried to set their bets to max.

once they lose that bet, the common reaction is to add more and deposit money to try recovering, but eventually the outcome is
the same with the first attempt.
That's why we have to use gambling as entertainment so that we don't get frustrated with the loss after the loss we get after we finish gambling. And if we use gambling as entertainment, we will not think about recovering those losses because losing in gambling is normal. Aiming for a big win will only make things difficult for us because we don't know when we can win that big win and how much money we have used for gambling. We also cannot enjoy gambling as entertainment because we will think about chasing that big win. And when they deposit more money to continue playing and recover their losses, they will only be trapped in further losses. And if they still can't realize it and just continue gambling, they will experience bigger losses.

~snip~
You say it honestly. Gambling is chaotic. Like chasing the wind? Nobody knows when luck will smile. Correct: it's a slippery slope. The excitement and anticipation of winning might draw us in. Soon, we're drowning in losses bigger than we expected.

What's our goal? The winner? Is it the thrill, excitement, escape from the daily grind? Every time we feel tempted to gamble, we should ask ourselves. As you said, setting objectives and knowing limits is essential. Experience, satisfaction, and fun matter more than winning. If it's not entertaining, why bother? It's about balance, knowing when to intervene and when to leave. It's hard yet necessary. Chase joy, laughter, and good times, not wins, and let the chips fall where they may.
You are right, and because we don't know when luck will come, it is better for us not to gamble too often and only use gambling as entertainment. But if we force ourselves to pursue a win, we must be prepared for the losses we incur, which is the risk.

So in gambling, we have to set goals and know the limits so that we don't experience losses in gambling. As long as we get satisfaction and pleasure from gambling, that is enough for us, and it is time for us to immediately quit gambling so that we do not experience more serious problems. Knowing when to stop can prevent us from falling into gambling, and we should not have a limit on winning in gambling.
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October 08, 2023, 05:35:39 PM
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My main focus on this thread is in this question: as a gambler do you place your bet according to the weight of your financial need or you're always okay with whatever amount that comes out as potential win no matter how small amount?

I do not place my bet according to the weight of my financial need. I am okay with whatever amount I win irrespective of whether it is small or big. If I have an urgent financial need to be met, I find a second job , I asked a family or friend to loan me some money, I sell some personal items or my Bitcoin and solve the money problem.

Well I want to believe that it is only newbie gamblers who would only gamble base on potential winning amount. And it tells me that the mom in they are going to use for gambling is money that they know that they cannot avoid to lose.

Better to have a limit  and be satisfied,  I mean if you already have some amount of winning and you can quit or stop on that spot, you should do that,  those who seek for something that  isn't easy to achieve might suffer a huge losses, unless you really practicing that kind of strategy and you are willing to let go the amount of money that you  deposited,  then you are good to go.

There are some who can and some who can't,  all depends from how a gambler deals with the setup that he's aiming for that sessions and the level of satisfaction that they have.
  If you are a long time gambler, I bet you  know already that gambling will not guarantee secured profits, so it's really better to be satisfied even with small winnings because that is already your profits. Trying to chase more for additional winnings will only put your profits at risk, thus eventually losing them in the process. Although some gamblers still hesitant to stop when they are winning already, but it's always the best thing to do for a gambler.

The best thing to do but not the best practice a gambler has when they are playing the game, especially when they are feeling lucky and thinks that luck will be unlimited, and yes, I agree with your statement, long time gambler who already have that right discipline knows that small amount of profits still consider as profit compared to losing everything back to the house, you can enjoy your small winning after stopping your session.

Good, proper setup in limiting yourself. Most of the time, emotion kills, so best practice is to make sure that you are in control to enjoy your gambling sessions.

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October 09, 2023, 05:42:02 PM
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The best thing to do but not the best practice a gambler has when they are playing the game, especially when they are feeling lucky and thinks that luck will be unlimited, and yes, I agree with your statement, long time gambler who already have that right discipline knows that small amount of profits still consider as profit compared to losing everything back to the house, you can enjoy your small winning after stopping your session.

Good, proper setup in limiting yourself. Most of the time, emotion kills, so best practice is to make sure that you are in control to enjoy your gambling sessions.

The gambling can be improved by many practices of the same game many times by using the small money in the game.If the gambler get the luck,he can play the continuous game in the lucky time and manage the huge amount of the dollars from the huge games.The experience gambler will have enough knowledge in the gambling and his discipline in the game will be more as compared to the fresh gambler to the game.The experienced gambler only do the gambling with the small amount of dollars to check their luck in the game and increases the bet to large amount.
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November 20, 2023, 09:26:03 AM
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no and never , I only play depend on my luck that time , meaning I will bet starting smaller roll then upon moving I will depend on mny winning amount , either to extend the bets or lessen more.

expecting how much to win will only brings frustration and also you will end up chasing your losses.

try not to become one instead just go with the flow with your gambling activities.
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November 20, 2023, 12:13:22 PM
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Who would want to be losing money all in the idea of catching fun!


I do! And I am pretty sure that many people do too, I remember when I was underage and growing up, I used to buy hours of time at a game villa, playing SEGA and Playstation 1, with my pocket money, and there are loads of people there too, when I go head to head with a good player I lose my money at times, but I wasn't even there to win money, but to enjoy the gaming time, that's why I mostly don't go head to head with another player, I just play alone to enjoy the game and when the time is up I take my leave.

What you don't know is people spend money on things that gets them entertained and fun, it's not always about making money, till today I am still spending a lot of money on fun part only, I own latest generation of PC with Ryzen 9 CPU and RTX 4080 GPU just to have access to Gamepass and good PC games, I do this for fun and it's been a long time coming.

Those who aren't into gaming have other things they like doing for fun, some enjoy going out with friends and having some drinks, they spend money whenever they do too, all in the name of having fun and there is nothing bad here, I am just trying to let you understand that people spend money to get fun too not making money.

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no and never , I only play depend on my luck that time , meaning I will bet starting smaller roll then upon moving I will depend on mny winning amount , either to extend the bets or lessen more.

expecting how much to win will only brings frustration and also you will end up chasing your losses.

try not to become one instead just go with the flow with your gambling activities.

Basically, even though you are betting with only a small amount, some precautions must be applied to your gambling such as your loss limit, and you must be able to stop if your loss has reached that limit. Do not think that it does not matter because you use a small amount only, because logically even though the amount you use is small but still if you do it several times a day it is clear that the total is also large, so I hope you can consider it and find a good enough alternative to avoid the amount of loss that is getting bigger.

On the other hand you have a pretty good understanding by realizing that gambling is nothing more than an activity that always depends on luck, I agree with that and indeed it has become a fact that indeed gambling is nothing more than entertainment and the final result always depends on how lucky you are at that time.

Now in terms of expectations we also have to be able to control or manage them, because as you said that all final results always depend on luck so that means you should not put excessive expectations on winning, because obviously you will never know what the final result will be, and if you just put high hopes but the final result always loses then obviously it will only frustrate you, that's clear.

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November 20, 2023, 12:59:16 PM
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no and never , I only play depend on my luck that time , meaning I will bet starting smaller roll then upon moving I will depend on mny winning amount , either to extend the bets or lessen more.

expecting how much to win will only brings frustration and also you will end up chasing your losses.

try not to become one instead just go with the flow with your gambling activities.

Basically, even though you are betting with only a small amount, some precautions must be applied to your gambling such as your loss limit, and you must be able to stop if your loss has reached that limit. Do not think that it does not matter because you use a small amount only, because logically even though the amount you use is small but still if you do it several times a day it is clear that the total is also large, so I hope you can consider it and find a good enough alternative to avoid the amount of loss that is getting bigger.

On the other hand you have a pretty good understanding by realizing that gambling is nothing more than an activity that always depends on luck, I agree with that and indeed it has become a fact that indeed gambling is nothing more than entertainment and the final result always depends on how lucky you are at that time.

Now in terms of expectations we also have to be able to control or manage them, because as you said that all final results always depend on luck so that means you should not put excessive expectations on winning, because obviously you will never know what the final result will be, and if you just put high hopes but the final result always loses then obviously it will only frustrate you, that's clear.

I agree with this.

Everything should come with limitations. It's not enough to have a money to spend in gambling because money can run dry when you use it irresponsibly. You should have a budget allocation intended for gambling and abide it. It will serve as your guide and your control for spending so you won't go beyond. Even if it's just a little bet after bets, once it accumulates, it still account for a specific amount that could be a big one once you surpass your boundaries. So it's really important to have self-discipline and have a logical analyzation everytime.

Gambling needs combination of skills, knowledge, and luck. If you have those plus the fund and self-control, you're most likely to have satisfaction with how your plays will turn out and you will surely earn some on the side.
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November 25, 2023, 11:30:36 PM
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I agree with this.

Everything should come with limitations. It's not enough to have a money to spend in gambling because money can run dry when you use it irresponsibly. You should have a budget allocation intended for gambling and abide it. It will serve as your guide and your control for spending so you won't go beyond. Even if it's just a little bet after bets, once it accumulates, it still account for a specific amount that could be a big one once you surpass your boundaries. So it's really important to have self-discipline and have a logical analyzation everytime.

Gambling needs combination of skills, knowledge, and luck. If you have those plus the fund and self-control, you're most likely to have satisfaction with how your plays will turn out and you will surely earn some on the side.
It is very true, although of course a lot of Winnings, passing or Surpassing it Implied a lot of Emotion because we would be breaking our lowest record and that is something like being proud of ourselves even more for doing something like tha t, therefore every time we are in a casino and If we try to do anything, we have to realize that every time we win, we can establish a limit , yes , but it is difficult to do it all the time. I at least settle for small profits and I do not seek to have big profits, but why? If what we always want are big profits, the answer is very simple, along the way I understood that things can be very strong when looking for more, because when looking for more, there must be more risk and that risk is what there is. that we can lose Faster and much more money and that is what is not wanted, quite the opposite, and to be something profitable in some Way , Every time you have profits it is something Unique , and you should take advantage of it to leave it there, Don't roast him, take care of him.

We as players when we try to break our own winning limit because it is something that makes us feel very good, and it is something that can be done with the best of intentions, and it can happen at any time, because we have to see that the age of the house It is the one that stops us greatly, and even so things can be generated with greater magnitude when we are talking about making profits in a very normal world. It is always having fun, enjoying, and sometimes the common denominator is losing, even so a player who This is established, it is because he is very successful, he knows very well how to play, how to increase and how to increase if he bets, this is what they do to see how to do it, this is what gives him experience, the good way of doing things. things, we must have a lot of expertise in a casino because basically it is a place where it is very easy to lose money , and if we go to this level , we have to take care of it very Closely.

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November 25, 2023, 11:37:21 PM
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no and never , I only play depend on my luck that time , meaning I will bet starting smaller roll then upon moving I will depend on mny winning amount , either to extend the bets or lessen more.

expecting how much to win will only brings frustration and also you will end up chasing your losses.

try not to become one instead just go with the flow with your gambling activities.

Basically, even though you are betting with only a small amount, some precautions must be applied to your gambling such as your loss limit, and you must be able to stop if your loss has reached that limit. Do not think that it does not matter because you use a small amount only, because logically even though the amount you use is small but still if you do it several times a day it is clear that the total is also large, so I hope you can consider it and find a good enough alternative to avoid the amount of loss that is getting bigger.

On the other hand you have a pretty good understanding by realizing that gambling is nothing more than an activity that always depends on luck, I agree with that and indeed it has become a fact that indeed gambling is nothing more than entertainment and the final result always depends on how lucky you are at that time.

Now in terms of expectations we also have to be able to control or manage them, because as you said that all final results always depend on luck so that means you should not put excessive expectations on winning, because obviously you will never know what the final result will be, and if you just put high hopes but the final result always loses then obviously it will only frustrate you, that's clear.

I agree with this.

Everything should come with limitations. It's not enough to have a money to spend in gambling because money can run dry when you use it irresponsibly. You should have a budget allocation intended for gambling and abide it. It will serve as your guide and your control for spending so you won't go beyond. Even if it's just a little bet after bets, once it accumulates, it still account for a specific amount that could be a big one once you surpass your boundaries. So it's really important to have self-discipline and have a logical analyzation everytime.

Gambling needs combination of skills, knowledge, and luck. If you have those plus the fund and self-control, you're most likely to have satisfaction with how your plays will turn out and you will surely earn some on the side.
When it comes to gambling then limitation would really be that something very important considering on how risky gambling is, no matter how rich or wealthy you are,
you would really be still ending up on getting bankrupt. When it comes to win limitation then there would be no limitation. Why? because we are greedy
the more money we do have the more better and this what makes or pushes us to play even more and this isnt a shocking behavior of a gambler
or simply its been that normal so better get used to it.
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