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August 12, 2023, 10:52:45 PM
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So according to his family, he was drunk? It has nothing to do with the man being a gambler then. Is it not common to see in the news people doing something crazy either in the casino, in the park, building or it could be in any place? Drunk people have the tendency to do something irresponsible and being a gambler is not a pre-requisite.

Actually, most professional gamblers are not fond of getting drunk in a casino otherwise they cannot focus and will keep on losing money. I visited a popular and world-class casino twice and I seldom saw people drinking liquor heavily. 
I think that person do not only suffer from being drugged as what the family claims, but most probably he is also suffering from being mentally ill, perhaps because of his gambling addiction that made him lose a lot and lost his right thinking. Because let's face the reality that no matter how drunk a person is, if he is not mentally ill, he will not do any shameless act that will surely make him regret the day after that.

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August 13, 2023, 10:11:49 AM
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Nakedness should bbit be a thing of much concerns to us anymore since people now willingly go naked to display their high level of desperation not to talk of when someone is under an alcoholic influence, he will definitely misbehaved himself, this is not what we can see happen in Las Vegas alone but at any gambling casino because some people can go weird to an unbelievable extent, while gambling, we should caution ourselves not to get intoxicated by alcohol and start to misbehave as someone insane, responsible gambler shouldn't get drunk.
The guy who did this doesn't necessarily have to be a gambler, we know that a lot of people come with their friends or colleagues to land-based casinos even if they don't want to gamble themselves, or even if he was a gambler, it shouldn't be a reason for all gamblers to be called irresponsible to this extent. And, I see irresponsibility in gamblers being only about their money when they are gambling because they just gamble it all away without playing responsibly.

He and his family said that he wasn't just drunk but drugged by someone which I feel is basically an excuse from them to prevent him from extreme humiliation by blaming someone unknown to be the reason behind all this. Even if he was drugged, he could have been taken away from the family before all this happened.

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August 13, 2023, 10:23:50 AM
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He and his family said that he wasn't just drunk but drugged by someone which I feel is basically an excuse from them to prevent him from extreme humiliation by blaming someone unknown to be the reason behind all this. Even if he was drugged, he could have been taken away from the family before all this happened.

That's something that unfortunately we'll never be able to know. I don't know which version I prefer, the one about the existence of people so irresponsible that end up behaving like the protagonist of our story, or the one about people so sadistic that is able to drug other people in public places. It's a shame that those things happen.

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August 13, 2023, 02:08:16 PM
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Nakedness should bbit be a thing of much concerns to us anymore since people now willingly go naked to display their high level of desperation not to talk of when someone is under an alcoholic influence, he will definitely misbehaved himself, this is not what we can see happen in Las Vegas alone but at any gambling casino because some people can go weird to an unbelievable extent, while gambling, we should caution ourselves not to get intoxicated by alcohol and start to misbehave as someone insane, responsible gambler shouldn't get drunk.
The guy who did this doesn't necessarily have to be a gambler, we know that a lot of people come with their friends or colleagues to land-based casinos even if they don't want to gamble themselves, or even if he was a gambler, it shouldn't be a reason for all gamblers to be called irresponsible to this extent. And, I see irresponsibility in gamblers being only about their money when they are gambling because they just gamble it all away without playing responsibly.

He and his family said that he wasn't just drunk but drugged by someone which I feel is basically an excuse from them to prevent him from extreme humiliation by blaming someone unknown to be the reason behind all this. Even if he was drugged, he could have been taken away from the family before all this happened.
Do you really think every person who walks into a casino is inevitably on a path to recklessness? Theres a vast majority of people who enjoy gambling as a mere hobby, treating it as an opportunity for entertainment rather than a means to make money.

Equating gambling with fiscal irresponsibility is just one side of the coin. Modern economics acknowledges the utility and satisfaction derived from various forms of entertainment, including gambling. Its not all about the money! But lets move on to your latter point - casting doubt on someone being drugged. Accusations like these can be life-altering, and i's grossly irresponsible to make such presumptions without evidence. The family's claim may or may not be valid, but who are we to immediately dismiss it?

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August 13, 2023, 10:44:17 PM
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Nakedness should bbit be a thing of much concerns to us anymore since people now willingly go naked to display their high level of desperation not to talk of when someone is under an alcoholic influence, he will definitely misbehave himself, this is not what we can see happen in Las Vegas alone but at any gambling casino because some people can go weird to an unbelievable extent, while gambling, we should caution ourselves not to get intoxicated by alcohol and start to misbehave as someone insane, responsible gambler shouldn't get drunk.
In general,  unruly behaviours have their limitations and a public place like a casino should be avoided with such behaviour this is because those in the casino house are always in a season that requires focus and any form of distraction is not welcomed, behaviour like this is what gives casino bad image in the public and lead to ban in casino houses operations.

The casino is not a beer pallor or hotel where one can go and get drunk since the selling of drinks is their business in these places so it allows, but not in a casino where many come to manage depression or pass time.

I am sure the casino where this happened will take precautionary measures to avoid recurrences of such ugly situations in the future.
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August 13, 2023, 11:33:40 PM
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Nakedness is somewhat popular in my local when someone can't handle the heat of being drunk.

There are reasons why patrollers or the casino management aren't too strict imposing penalties to these people. It's because they can potentially lose a client and if that guy is known to be a big time gambler to them, they will just let it pass and call that a day.

In the end, it's all about business for the casino and if there are irritated other customers, they'll just have to tell sorry for those affected gamblers by that toxic behavior of gambler.

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August 14, 2023, 01:53:49 AM
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Nakedness is somewhat popular in my local when someone can't handle the heat of being drunk.

There are reasons why patrollers or the casino management aren't too strict imposing penalties to these people. It's because they can potentially lose a client and if that guy is known to be a big time gambler to them, they will just let it pass and call that a day.

Yes, just reminded me a few days ago about a story, I personally didn't witnessed it. But I have a buddy who is somewhat close to a whales in land based casinos. It's not about nakedness or something. But one thing you says about losing a potential client. And so this big whales can command the casino itself if he wanted to ban someone. The story goes that this whales bet a huge amount in a baccarat game and someone goes on and bet against him with just like less than $100 and this guy won. The big whales was so mad that he ask the casino to ban this guy for good. Again, this is just a story that circulated, I was not there, but I know that this high rollers and big whales can do that because the casinos doesn't want to lose their big clients.
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August 14, 2023, 11:58:02 AM
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I think that person do not only suffer from being drugged as what the family claims, but most probably he is also suffering from being mentally ill, perhaps because of his gambling addiction that made him lose a lot and lost his right thinking. Because let's face the reality that no matter how drunk a person is, if he is not mentally ill, he will not do any shameless act that will surely make him regret the day after that.

If you read the link shared by the OP carefully, you will have a little idea about what is related to the case that happened to this man. according to The New York post, this guy was in Las Vegas just for the bachelorette party. which means, he is not playing gambling but more to celebrate something with his friends. I just want to be a neutral reader, with reference to this link. that there wasn't a single piece of news that led to the gambling he was doing, apart from a screenshot of a naked man twirling from a poker table. the rest, the essence of the news is that this man has been drugged until in the end he starts to become paranoid and act irrationally.

Referring to what you said, the fact is that we can only assume and speculate without knowing the real truth. there is also the info shared by the OP, not telling details related to what happened. but it would be very natural, if there were various responses and opinions from the community. but in my personal opinion, that this case is not related to gambling. yep, because after all I have to refer to the news sources shared by the OP. besides as far as my experience and knowledge, as drunk as someone is, rarely do actions that are beyond common sense. except, this man consumed something that made him do something abnormal. my conclusion, I stick to the references provided by the link the OP shared. which means, something that happened to this man had nothing to do with gambling.

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August 14, 2023, 01:33:35 PM
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I think that person do not only suffer from being drugged as what the family claims, but most probably he is also suffering from being mentally ill, perhaps because of his gambling addiction that made him lose a lot and lost his right thinking. Because let's face the reality that no matter how drunk a person is, if he is not mentally ill, he will not do any shameless act that will surely make him regret the day after that.

If you read the link shared by the OP carefully, you will have a little idea about what is related to the case that happened to this man. according to The New York post, this guy was in Las Vegas just for the bachelorette party. which means, he is not playing gambling but more to celebrate something with his friends. I just want to be a neutral reader, with reference to this link. that there wasn't a single piece of news that led to the gambling he was doing, apart from a screenshot of a naked man twirling from a poker table. the rest, the essence of the news is that this man has been drugged until in the end he starts to become paranoid and act irrationally.

Referring to what you said, the fact is that we can only assume and speculate without knowing the real truth. there is also the info shared by the OP, not telling details related to what happened. but it would be very natural, if there were various responses and opinions from the community. but in my personal opinion, that this case is not related to gambling. yep, because after all I have to refer to the news sources shared by the OP. besides as far as my experience and knowledge, as drunk as someone is, rarely do actions that are beyond common sense. except, this man consumed something that made him do something abnormal. my conclusion, I stick to the references provided by the link the OP shared. which means, something that happened to this man had nothing to do with gambling.

When I read the article related to this, no mention about being mentally ill or of that sort.
He was drugged and I believe that's the reason why he did such embarrassing act.
That is true, he was only there for the bachelor party and his wife was 33 weeks pregnant at that time.
So I don't think, he's mentally ill to have a wife who was currently pregnant and is about to start his family.
But after this news, no follow-up regarding the case. Maybe, the family settled this quietly.
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August 14, 2023, 04:12:38 PM
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Nakedness is somewhat popular in my local when someone can't handle the heat of being drunk.

There are reasons why patrollers or the casino management aren't too strict imposing penalties to these people. It's because they can potentially lose a client and if that guy is known to be a big time gambler to them, they will just let it pass and call that a day.
Yes, just reminded me a few days ago about a story, I personally didn't witnessed it. But I have a buddy who is somewhat close to a whales in land based casinos. It's not about nakedness or something. But one thing you says about losing a potential client. And so this big whales can command the casino itself if he wanted to ban someone. The story goes that this whales bet a huge amount in a baccarat game and someone goes on and bet against him with just like less than $100 and this guy won. The big whales was so mad that he ask the casino to ban this guy for good. Again, this is just a story that circulated, I was not there, but I know that this high rollers and big whales can do that because the casinos doesn't want to lose their big clients.
If that person was a VIP member of a casino and went crazy like that guy, it was likely the casino would just let it slide. Casinos certainly don't want to lose VIP members who often spend large sums of money gambling and will choose to do nothing. And if it's true that the man was drugged until he was unconscious and did that, it would be embarrassing for the man. And he could have held the casino accountable because someone drugged him. And when a person is drugged, he doesn't know what he's done, and perhaps that's what happened to that guy. But we don't know what the next story will be.

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August 14, 2023, 04:32:24 PM
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Nakedness is somewhat popular in my local when someone can't handle the heat of being drunk.

There are reasons why patrollers or the casino management aren't too strict imposing penalties to these people. It's because they can potentially lose a client and if that guy is known to be a big time gambler to them, they will just let it pass and call that a day.
Yes, just reminded me a few days ago about a story, I personally didn't witnessed it. But I have a buddy who is somewhat close to a whales in land based casinos. It's not about nakedness or something. But one thing you says about losing a potential client. And so this big whales can command the casino itself if he wanted to ban someone. The story goes that this whales bet a huge amount in a baccarat game and someone goes on and bet against him with just like less than $100 and this guy won. The big whales was so mad that he ask the casino to ban this guy for good. Again, this is just a story that circulated, I was not there, but I know that this high rollers and big whales can do that because the casinos doesn't want to lose their big clients.
If that person was a VIP member of a casino and went crazy like that guy, it was likely the casino would just let it slide. Casinos certainly don't want to lose VIP members who often spend large sums of money gambling and will choose to do nothing. And if it's true that the man was drugged until he was unconscious and did that, it would be embarrassing for the man. And he could have held the casino accountable because someone drugged him. And when a person is drugged, he doesn't know what he's done, and perhaps that's what happened to that guy. But we don't know what the next story will be.
Well, A VIP member of a casino that behaved the way that guy behaved, i trust will be given just same treatment as the guy was given initially, that is, having security men take him away from the public there, the only thing i believe is that the casino might not press charges against him, and for this particular incident, we were not told whether the casino pressed charges against the dude or not.

And talking about being drugged, due to how everything happened or played out, I don't think the dude have any right to press charges against the casino even though he was drugged in the casino, according to the story, the casino didn't give him a drink, and no body in the casino gave him drink, what the story told us is that, the dude took a leftover drink belonging to some one who already left the casino, and drank, and some minutes after drinking, he started misbehaving, that is clearly not the fault of the casino, why would he want to hold the casino accountable for such when it is not the casino or any present customer in the casino that gave him what he drank?

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August 14, 2023, 11:16:43 PM
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Nakedness is somewhat popular in my local when someone can't handle the heat of being drunk.

There are reasons why patrollers or the casino management aren't too strict imposing penalties to these people. It's because they can potentially lose a client and if that guy is known to be a big time gambler to them, they will just let it pass and call that a day.
Yes, just reminded me a few days ago about a story, I personally didn't witnessed it. But I have a buddy who is somewhat close to a whales in land based casinos. It's not about nakedness or something. But one thing you says about losing a potential client. And so this big whales can command the casino itself if he wanted to ban someone. The story goes that this whales bet a huge amount in a baccarat game and someone goes on and bet against him with just like less than $100 and this guy won. The big whales was so mad that he ask the casino to ban this guy for good. Again, this is just a story that circulated, I was not there, but I know that this high rollers and big whales can do that because the casinos doesn't want to lose their big clients.
If that person was a VIP member of a casino and went crazy like that guy, it was likely the casino would just let it slide. Casinos certainly don't want to lose VIP members who often spend large sums of money gambling and will choose to do nothing. And if it's true that the man was drugged until he was unconscious and did that, it would be embarrassing for the man. And he could have held the casino accountable because someone drugged him. And when a person is drugged, he doesn't know what he's done, and perhaps that's what happened to that guy. But we don't know what the next story will be.
Well, A VIP member of a casino that behaved the way that guy behaved, i trust will be given just same treatment as the guy was given initially, that is, having security men take him away from the public there, the only thing i believe is that the casino might not press charges against him, and for this particular incident, we were not told whether the casino pressed charges against the dude or not.

And talking about being drugged, due to how everything happened or played out, I don't think the dude have any right to press charges against the casino even though he was drugged in the casino, according to the story, the casino didn't give him a drink, and no body in the casino gave him drink, what the story told us is that, the dude took a leftover drink belonging to some one who already left the casino, and drank, and some minutes after drinking, he started misbehaving, that is clearly not the fault of the casino, why would he want to hold the casino accountable for such when it is not the casino or any present customer in the casino that gave him what he drank?
Cant really be still a solid thing that he would be able to throw against the casino, on just looking up on some cctv footage on which its impossible that the venue doesnt have one, then they would be able to see on what that previous person is behaving after he had able to drink up such liqour whether this man or guy left the premises peacefully or does have some unusual actions that had been made? You cant really be able to accuse
if there would be no solid evidence about being drugged. Also, they could always make out some investigation about on the said drink whether it does have some drugs or not or trying out to trace if ever it was spilled or having nothing left. If the said person who do have that kind of financial capacity then he could be able to contest it out but in overall it would really be that pointless or something that would really be just that a waste of time and resources. Also the content of such drink might really be just that purely a liquor then there are people who do easily get that affected with alcohol which would really be resulting into actions that you arent
expecting that you would really be doing it. If there we no charges that had been given then we could assume whether the casino had just simply make it pass or just because it is one of the VIP. No one really knows.

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August 15, 2023, 03:33:39 AM
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When I read the article related to this, no mention about being mentally ill or of that sort.
He was drugged and I believe that's the reason why he did such embarrassing act.
That is true, he was only there for the bachelor party and his wife was 33 weeks pregnant at that time.
So I don't think, he's mentally ill to have a wife who was currently pregnant and is about to start his family.
But after this news, no follow-up regarding the case. Maybe, the family settled this quietly.
Usually casinos at Las Vegas prefer to be as friendly as they can be to their customers as they know they depend on their preference to make a living, so they can let go of a lot of things as long as their customers do not go way out of line, still I think this behavior is incredibly irresponsible as this is the kind of stuff the people around you will never forget, and what is worse is that now they have video evidence to put you in ridicule whenever they want.
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When I read the article related to this, no mention about being mentally ill or of that sort.
He was drugged and I believe that's the reason why he did such embarrassing act.
That is true, he was only there for the bachelor party and his wife was 33 weeks pregnant at that time.
So I don't think, he's mentally ill to have a wife who was currently pregnant and is about to start his family.
But after this news, no follow-up regarding the case. Maybe, the family settled this quietly.
Usually casinos at Las Vegas prefer to be as friendly as they can be to their customers as they know they depend on their preference to make a living, so they can let go of a lot of things as long as their customers do not go way out of line, still I think this behavior is incredibly irresponsible as this is the kind of stuff the people around you will never forget, and what is worse is that now they have video evidence to put you in ridicule whenever they want.

I think that the staff of any casino in Las Vegas has already seen all the human vices and antics. In this place, even the most moral person can easily go off the rails, and the reason for this can be both a big win and (most likely) a big loss. The casino staff probably doesn't care who does what anymore, they just put up with it and get their salary. I think it's a good money to turn a blind eye to strange, rude and evil people. And if someone loses money, of course he will take out his anger on them.

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August 15, 2023, 05:03:37 AM
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When I read the article related to this, no mention about being mentally ill or of that sort.
He was drugged and I believe that's the reason why he did such embarrassing act.
That is true, he was only there for the bachelor party and his wife was 33 weeks pregnant at that time.
So I don't think, he's mentally ill to have a wife who was currently pregnant and is about to start his family.
But after this news, no follow-up regarding the case. Maybe, the family settled this quietly.
Usually casinos at Las Vegas prefer to be as friendly as they can be to their customers as they know they depend on their preference to make a living, so they can let go of a lot of things as long as their customers do not go way out of line, still I think this behavior is incredibly irresponsible as this is the kind of stuff the people around you will never forget, and what is worse is that now they have video evidence to put you in ridicule whenever they want.

That is really what I can think of: people will make fun of you after you are out of jail. That was their first thought when they saw you, but again, it has been done already, and you can escape that. You have no choice but to move on and not take it seriously, as youve already done it and it is your fault. Try to remember that whenever you are going to drink so that for sure you'll not be very drunk and do it again
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August 15, 2023, 05:04:36 AM
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So according to his family, he was drunk? It has nothing to do with the man being a gambler then. Is it not common to see in the news people doing something crazy either in the casino, in the park, building or it could be in any place? Drunk people have the tendency to do something irresponsible and being a gambler is not a pre-requisite.

Actually, most professional gamblers are not fond of getting drunk in a casino otherwise they cannot focus and will keep on losing money. I visited a popular and world-class casino twice and I seldom saw people drinking liquor heavily. 
I think that person do not only suffer from being drugged as what the family claims, but most probably he is also suffering from being mentally ill, perhaps because of his gambling addiction that made him lose a lot and lost his right thinking. Because let's face the reality that no matter how drunk a person is, if he is not mentally ill, he will not do any shameless act that will surely make him regret the day after that.

Is it under the influence of alcohol that everyone who does it without realizing it, if under the influence of any alcohol can do something embarrassing or more extreme do it, what else happens in Las Vegas where all things are legalized in that country, so no wonder if there are so many crimes in Las Vegas, maybe things that can eliminate crimes there make a breakthrough from the local government to prevent ongoing crimes so that similar things don't happen in the future.

If there is no firmness in terms of making decisions from the authorities, there will be similar problems in the future and will even continue.

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Well, A VIP member of a casino that behaved the way that guy behaved, i trust will be given just same treatment as the guy was given initially, that is, having security men take him away from the public there, the only thing i believe is that the casino might not press charges against him, and for this particular incident, we were not told whether the casino pressed charges against the dude or not.

And talking about being drugged, due to how everything happened or played out, I don't think the dude have any right to press charges against the casino even though he was drugged in the casino, according to the story, the casino didn't give him a drink, and no body in the casino gave him drink, what the story told us is that, the dude took a leftover drink belonging to some one who already left the casino, and drank, and some minutes after drinking, he started misbehaving, that is clearly not the fault of the casino, why would he want to hold the casino accountable for such when it is not the casino or any present customer in the casino that gave him what he drank?
It seems the casino didn't press any charges against the man who was allegedly drunk, as we don't know of any notification regarding that either. And perhaps he also has VIP status, so the casino doesn't press charges but just takes him away from the casino, soothing him.

I don't think the guy would inquire or sue the casino. From what you have said, it seems that the man was not strong at drinking alcohol because he began to behave badly just a few minutes after drinking. And it's true, it's not the casino's fault because he drank someone's drink. Let's hope the case doesn't impact the guy or the casino.

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August 15, 2023, 03:14:50 PM
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When I read the article related to this, no mention about being mentally ill or of that sort.
He was drugged and I believe that's the reason why he did such embarrassing act.
That is true, he was only there for the bachelor party and his wife was 33 weeks pregnant at that time.
So I don't think, he's mentally ill to have a wife who was currently pregnant and is about to start his family.
But after this news, no follow-up regarding the case. Maybe, the family settled this quietly.
Usually casinos at Las Vegas prefer to be as friendly as they can be to their customers as they know they depend on their preference to make a living, so they can let go of a lot of things as long as their customers do not go way out of line, still I think this behavior is incredibly irresponsible as this is the kind of stuff the people around you will never forget, and what is worse is that now they have video evidence to put you in ridicule whenever they want.

So what happened to the old saying "What happens in Vegas stays in Vegas"? I don't understand what happened there, if a case in Las Veggas came to light, it's because I wanted that to come out, the rest they don't, what I'm saying is that when things like this happen, that seems silly, there are worse things that happen and do not publish them, for me they wanted to make the man look bad, and also what they say that he has a pregnant wife, with almost a week more to give birth, that is something that they should not do, it is Obviously, that case should have turned out, the bad thing is that they don't say it, the bad thing here is that he was under the influence of drugs, because drunk he could or would have sounded better.
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August 15, 2023, 03:24:43 PM
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So according to his family, he was drunk? It has nothing to do with the man being a gambler then. Is it not common to see in the news people doing something crazy either in the casino, in the park, building or it could be in any place? Drunk people have the tendency to do something irresponsible and being a gambler is not a pre-requisite.

Actually, most professional gamblers are not fond of getting drunk in a casino otherwise they cannot focus and will keep on losing money. I visited a popular and world-class casino twice and I seldom saw people drinking liquor heavily. 
I think that person do not only suffer from being drugged as what the family claims, but most probably he is also suffering from being mentally ill, perhaps because of his gambling addiction that made him lose a lot and lost his right thinking. Because let's face the reality that no matter how drunk a person is, if he is not mentally ill, he will not do any shameless act that will surely make him regret the day after that.
I believe you didn't see people when they are heavily drunk because if you had, you wouldn't say that a person who is drunk wouldn't do anything that will make them ashamed of their acts when they are sober. When a person is too much drunk, they don't know what they are doing, even if they know, they just can't control themselves, they will get angry very easily, and will say everything they have in their mind and even do things that can never be undone.

I have seen people firing at other people when they get drunk only because they had some grudges with them in the past, what this guy did is nothing compared to what some people do when they are drunk. People will forget what he did, but if he had done something more terrible, he could never forget that or get away with it.

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August 15, 2023, 04:08:26 PM
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We know that nowadays there are people in various casinos who take drugs and act like crazy. If that person goes naked to a Las Vegas casino and starts dancing on the poker table, it is definitely a big crime in the eyes of the law and he should be punished.  If it is the case that he has consumed drugs in excess due to which his brain is not functioning, he may be punished less than the law, but if he aims to go viral, he will certainly be subject to severe punishment. Although we know nowadays most people go to casinos mainly with the aim of going viral and many times they are seen doing crazy things like that. If he acts instead of taking drugs, he must be punished, as this will bring the reputation of a casino into question and will bring the casino into disrepute and the popularity of that casino will likely decrease. And since her family says she takes drugs regularly, maybe she went there and danced naked.  So if the words of his family are true then he will be free from the law but if it is false then he will definitely be taken under severe punishment.

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