Deleting Several Previous Posts/Comments To Reduce Post Count...

[noorman0]

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this is true ?

I've ever come to this conclusion. After a while I wondered if maybe those people have buried "past sins" while there are some archival tools that can record the reality and most of the influential managers probably use those tools to help their management activities.

I think there's only a small chance of someone wanting to do it, unless they hope to be involved in a drama one day.

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[knowngunman]

I understand the urge bud, I feel like posting the account name(s) too, if not for anything, to prove that what I am asking about is not just an idea born out of my own mind, but like I noted, I sincerely don't want to get anybody involved in this, what they are doing is not a crime and is not against the forum rules, so i honestly dont want to bother them, and more importantly, i dont want anybody seeing me as an enemy, so, lets just leave it the way it is.

You are free to do your research and find out who and who yourself.

This is illogical! You raised the alarm and if the evidence is needed you must provide it. You intrude into their profile for reasons best known to you while also you are aware that whatever they choose to do with their account is none of your business. Just like our other social media platforms, we delete posts/images we no longer find interesting and get rid of them with or without reason and the same is applicable here. Moreover, deleted posts here can be obtained on the ninja site in case it is evidence against them they're trying to get rid of.

If they're doing it maybe for the reason stated in your original post, then it will affect their rank as well since ranks work in hand with activity and I don't think anyone who is after the signature campaign (since you mentioned the campaign manager in your post) will prefer to have less activity with less rank since the higher the rank the higher the payment. You deserve an accolade for the research after all.

[EarnOnVictor]

Is there any manager use merit/post ratio to select their participants? AFAIK no.

What I know is: total merit earned in 120 days, posting habit, the frequent section, total merit earned, top recognized rank, trust rating, and some privilege e.g. staff, moderator, foxup merit cycling, phenomenal etc.

I think the higher total post, the higher chance people will see his signature because it's spread to many places.

I'm glad it's AFAIK on your part, but the answer is yes, not no. You can't certainly know what an account manager is using for their selection, and what they use to select in this campaign might not be the same as what they will use to select in another campaign. This applies to the same account manager, and if you carefully study their psychology of selection, you would know that it's not often favouring the ones with too many activities to lower merits ratio, except in a few cases they might want to consider more posting.

This is by no doubt one of the reasons some people would love to delete some of their posts but there are more.

[uchegod-21]

I was a campaign manager, I wouldn't hire anyone because of activity - merit ratio. I also do not find it bad if people begin to delete their old posts but I will never do so because I value the old posts which represents my early days in the forum. Even if there were mistakes, I will take them as beginners mistakes and not delete them.

Again, if I was to be a campaign manager I will hire someone with higher post history for exposure than someone with a lesser post count. It is upto every individual what they want to do with their account. The forum is open for you to do anything in as much as you are not cheating.

[LoyceV]

I don't know specifically, but my guess is that, they may think or consider it that other forum users, or maybe campaign managers, may consider them spammers

I can only encourage spammers to delete their own posts I've even considered doing it myself, especially on my Mobile account, but I decided I like the posts anyway. Even if they're short, it adds historical context (and it's far too much work to go over all my posts again).

i am not going to mention their usernames since this thread is not about them

Now I'm curious which accounts you're talking about. It's easier to see the context if you show the accounts.

Campaign managers will look at these following twos

Total merits
Received merits in the last 120 days (4 months)

Call me old-fashioned, but I'd like to judge people by their actual posts, instead of only Merit earned. If I'd manage a campaign, I'd only use the Merit count to quickly get rid of the obvious cases. So no Merit means no entry, but some Merit still means manual scrutiny.

[SmartGold01]

From own way of analyzing this deletion of post is that such person weren't doing well at the beginning stage or maybe would want to keep their profile clean as you said, then when I think deeply such account could either be bought account and wanting to free up some cheap post made by the original owner or the second users before getting to the final user who is then currently controlling the account.
From my observation deleting of post should be something that is not meant to cause any harm but they should be able to leave those post to reflect back to their early age if there would be need for that or using it to sight references for the newbies whenever they becomes too desperate about some specific issues.

Like then a thread I created and was asking question about how to increase my post quality some few users redirected me to their profile to see how they all started before I would want to post like them, sincerely speaking this has to draw my attention to reconsidered myself and take a bold step to start making quality post. Although to my self I might feels I have started making quality post but, only higher members that could be able to speak and get my profile reviewed if actually I have increased in my post quality or not.

Then lastly, talking about manager merging their merits with their post count to consider them as quality posters. See mate, from what I have seen so far majority of manager's doesn't care about post quality rather what they considered is the amount of merits earned so far within 120 days thereabout. Only few that doesn't count merits why some thread I scanned through here stated it that they must be earning at least 1 merits to their stay in the campaign, this made me to think that merits is what they look after and not post quality.

If not merits why then you would opened some campaign thread and see hundreds of applicants but only those with higher merits counts are being accepted, well I have no personal issues with this but, sometimes don't you think it would make those applicants feels more bad or is there no other way to evaluate users by either first come, first served so that they won't feel biased or having to think their merits is limiting them?

[bullrun2024bro]

What do you guys think or make of this?

I know several users that are deleting their posts after a certain period of time for privacy reasons. I guess, most of them know that their posts are also tracked via tools like Ninjastic or BPIP, but they don't want the posts to be found directly via Bitcointalk.

I think that is a fair concern. Not everyone wants their posts to be found via Google at first glance even years later.

I do not believe that the post/merit ratio is the decisive point here.

[hd49728]

Call me old-fashioned, but I'd like to judge people by their actual posts, instead of only Merit earned.

I know managers will use it is their filter tool after that they will look at latest posts to assess post quality. My post is not clear about it but I have a same old-fashioned as you about post quality and post quality checking.

It is to see your post quality is maintaining at high quality or drop last for months. Deleting your old posts can not help you to pass through the manager checking.

If I'd manage a campaign, I'd only use the Merit count to quickly get rid of the obvious cases. So no Merit means no entry, but some Merit still means manual scrutiny.

I agree. Have high recent received merit does not equal to post quality is good recently. Post quality must be checked manually and can not check quickly with merit number.

I was a campaign manager, I wouldn't hire anyone because of activity - merit ratio. I also do not find it bad if people begin to delete their old posts but I will never do so because I value the old posts which represents my early days in the forum. Even if there were mistakes, I will take them as beginners mistakes and not delete them.

Activity - merit ratio, post - merit ratio can not guarantee post quality. Recent received merit can not guarantee recent post quality because a poster can receive merit with posts made months ago.

[pakhitheboss]

Deleting a lot of old posts can result in a decline in activity and eventually loss the rank. If those users are thinking such useless efforts would help them in securing a position on a signature campaign then they are mistaken. The criteria on how BM decides a candidate is suitable for a signature campaign can be known by reading the Rules. Merits, posting behavior, and active members are three common checks. Different BMs have different ways of selecting a candidate as in the end the managers only want the business to benefit. That is why high paying campaigns have members with high merits and a large number of posts that are not meant to spam boards.

[Learn Bitcoin]

If someone initially thinks their post quality is lower, there is nothing wrong with deleting old posts. Most people make some mistakes in their newbie days. If someone wants to fix the mistakes they made, they are welcome. But there might be some other reasons that Yahoo already mentioned. Even though someone deleted their old posts, those are already archived.

About signature campaigns, I don't think this could be because someone wants to decrease their post count. I don't think post count influences getting hired in a campaign. Most campaign managers look at earned merits and posting habits in the last 120 days.

[Pandu Geddon]

What do you guys think or make of this?, its an honest enquiry please..

all your assumptions are probably right. everyone may have their own motives. but for accounts that have been inactive for a long time, then woke up and deleted several posts that might be related to bounty campaigns or address information and social media accounts. I am more inclined that there is a possibility that the account will be sold or the account has changed hands. especially if there is a history of password changes, it will strengthen.
but still, each such case must have a different motive. there wouldn't be many people who cared about people deleting their own posts.

[lovesmayfamilis]

Was a story, the user deleted his old posts, and in the future, he published the same posts. I can't find this user right now. It did not arouse suspicion of plagiarism until one day someone noticed that the same post had been written several months ago. Sometimes it is better to show such users, perhaps they can also participate dishonestly in the forum.
I deleted my old post history as there were a lot of junk bounty reports. The mistakes of youth sometimes make it better to clean up after yourself.

[yahoo62278]

3. former spammer trying to make the account look better to join a sig campaign

Now, I am curious regarding to what OP said on the main post

I don't know specifically, but my guess is that, they may think or consider it that other forum users, or maybe campaign managers, may consider them spammers if they have a lot of posts, maybe in the tens of thousands and not many merits earned to back that number of posts up, this is true ?

From a campaign manager point of view do you (Yahoo) take post to merit ratio as one of consideration to accept a member into your campaign. I mean what if the person recently make a better posts and got many merits recently, but their previous 500+ posts rarely get merit (ignoring whether they make good or bad post, they just rarely get any merit)

Merit to post ratio doesn't matter to me. People can buy merits from what I've seen other users say. Only 1 or 2 managers even cares about merits and they probably could find quality posters just as easily by not having the merit requirement.

If you are a quality poster and lack merits to get into a campaign, maybe you are posting in the wrong board. Stay out of all the altcoin boards, those will get you nowhere. I'm not even sure why managers count posts in those boards. Try engaging in discussions without repeating the 5 replies before you as well.

[burpime]

Hi everyone..

So some how, i discovered that there are some forum members who are periodically deleting tens of hundreds of their previous posts/comments, supposedly for no other reason other than to keep their post count low, probably to match the number of merits they have earned, or keep their post count at a little bit higher average, what ever their main motive for doing this is, I don't know specifically, but my guess is that, they may think or consider it that other forum users, or maybe campaign managers, may consider them spammers if they have a lot of posts, maybe in the tens of thousands and not many merits earned to back that number of posts up, this is true ?

I know of two or three accounts that have engaged in this act of deleting their own previous post, I've thought about why they do this and nothing else comes to mind except that which I've expressed above, i am not going to mention their usernames since this thread is not about them, but me personally asking if this is an ideal thing to do, i know there is no rule restricting users from deleting their previous posts when they feel like it, but I don't know why I feel doing such is a cheating on other honest forum members, as well as campaign managers who might believe you to be a quality poster based on your low posts count and merit earned, not knowing that you are just an average poster like most users of the forum, that deleting previous post is what has kept your post counts down..

What do you guys think or make of this?, its an honest enquiry please..

For some sections, it is not even allowed to delete the posts. Still if the bounty manager wants to check the deleted posts, it is again possible. Even you can check it.

[Faisal2202]

I know of two or three accounts that have engaged in this act of deleting their own previous post, I've thought about why they do this and nothing else comes to mind except that which I've expressed above, i am not going to mention their usernames since this thread is not about them, but me personally asking if this is an ideal thing to do, i know there is no rule restricting users from deleting their previous posts when they feel like it, but I don't know why I feel doing such is a cheating on other honest forum members, as well as campaign managers who might believe you to be a quality poster based on your low posts count and merit earned, not knowing that you are just an average poster like most users of the forum, that deleting previous post is what has kept your post counts down..

What do you guys think or make of this?, its an honest enquiry please..

I totally understand your confusion here. But the selection method and criteria of many managers is still a myth to me. Because i am a person who have spent most of the time in bounties. And you can check i made more than 600+ posts in bounties making report, POA etc. Such posts are spam or not that i don't know about. But, when i started to participate in discussion i started to rank.

And when i became full members i was as happy as when i got my first merit. (Which according to my mindset was not free) but when i got one i came to know that merits are free and you can also give them to others. SO, is started to grow as my words are good to others (proof is they are giving me merits means appreciating my words). Overall, is, i when applied for Signature campaigns. i was rejected by many campaign managers. But one day i got accepted in Yomix signature campaign by Royse777. I was fully in confusion at that time after getting so much rejection and become to think that my profile is total waste as i made many posts which have no contribution to the forum and i also think to delete them but i cannot do that. Well, when i got accepted by royse777 i was relaxed to know that.

There is no such thing that you have made so many spammy posts before. That's in past, if you come to know that post quality is important and started to make some quality posts then managers might consider you. But still, there selection method is still myth to me. Because there are plenty of things they might observe before selecting one member. And of course they do not only rely on tools. As recently i made a mistake by using tools and manager was at right as she did it manually.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

The only reason for which someone wants to delete their post history is to cover their stupid mistakes, wants privacy etc though that's not possible due to some of the archival services.

I think you are right. A user may have made some multiple mistakes several times which may be caused by the user being new to the forum, typographical error, wrong information, wrong date etc and once the user is able to get the knowledge of the past mistakes he or she has made in the past that person can decide to delete it but deleting a post doesn't really mean the information is out completely as you earlier said the post can be found in the archival services but looking at the information contained in the post of the op, I think there is more to some users just deleting their posts than what we are thinking about.

You guys are definitely right, I mean like i stated in the op, for us who are not in the culprits shoe, we can only imagine a lot of different reasons why a user might decide to delete some of their posts, but in all of those imaginations, i am very sorry to say that a user choosing to delete some of their posts simply because of some sort of mistakes they made when they were newbies is the lamest of all, like i said before, I am sorry for seeing it this way but its just my opinion.

Yeah, Not every user looks at the forum's achieves sure thing, I myself probably have never looked there, so if you delete some of your posts for whatever reason, not everyone will call it to mind to look at the forum achieves to find out, this simply means that many will never find out.
And again coming back to mistakes made when the user was a newbie, I myself was for a very long time a bounty hunter before I even understood that there was more to this forum than just bounty hunting, I probably have made some mistakes as a newbie and bounty hunter, if no body ever asked me about those mistakes, even the managers of the different signature campaigns I've been a participant in never asked me before accepting me, or rejecting me with a note that my past mistakes is the reason why i was rejected, if none of this ever happened, what credibility or reputation does deleting this past posts add to me now as a user of this forum?

[uchegod-21]

Was a story, the user deleted his old posts, and in the future, he published the same posts. I can't find this user right now. It did not arouse suspicion of plagiarism until one day someone noticed that the same post had been written several months ago. Sometimes it is better to show such users, perhaps they can also participate dishonestly in the forum.
I deleted my old post history as there were a lot of junk bounty reports. The mistakes of youth sometimes make it better to clean up after yourself.

Everyday in the forum we hear different stories of junky acts in the forum and this one sounds so absurd to me. I am trying to understand how stressful this will be for anyone to do. I mean does he delete the posts and paste them in notepad and later on be pasting them in the forum.

This idea doesn't follow. I mean this fellow cannot join a flowing conversation because something written months ago might not be relevant for current discussion. If I should ask, what happened to his brain. After making the first post, was the user's brain blocked from producing more posts?

[UmerIdrees]

What do you guys think or make of this?

I know several users that are deleting their posts after a certain period of time for privacy reasons. I guess, most of them know that their posts are also tracked via tools like Ninjastic or BPIP, but they don't want the posts to be found directly via Bitcointalk.

I think that is a fair concern. Not everyone wants their posts to be found via Google at first glance even years later.

I do not believe that the post/merit ratio is the decisive point here.

I do not get the privacy reason for deleting the posts. Is there any confidential information in those deleted posts that can harm the privacy? I am sure this is not the case.
Also, the merit-to-post ratio should not be a concern here because most managers will either look for the merits attained in the last 120 days or they will manually see the posting habits and sections where the person posts.

Maybe those people are deleting the posts as they think they have posted using AI or something like that and they now fear that they might get caught someday, so they decide to delete the old posts. That can be one possible reason.

[NotATether]

I think there are only few members who do that and that's their right so no one can stop them from doing that. I don't think that deleting one's posts and making post to merit ratio higher would give someone edge over others when it comes to signature campaigns. A campaign manager often tries to select those members in his/her campaign that can write well constructed content which can help a campaign to get more attention of the forum users. For example a user having 1000+ merits having only 700 posts which are well constructed while another user having 1000+ merits having more than 15k+ unconstructed posts. In this case the one with 1000+ merits and 700 posts would get high priority to be accepted in a campaign than the one with 15k+ unconstructed posts.

That only works if you only delete the posts that have no merit on them. Because if you do, anyone can just look at your merit page and see a bunch of merit transactions for "(deleted/off-limits/ignored)", and even if you do that, looking at your post history and seeing all posts merited is going to look extremely fishy especially if people can see you are posting multiple times per day.

[skarais]

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This idea doesn't follow. I mean this fellow cannot join a flowing conversation because something written months ago might not be relevant for current discussion. If I should ask, what happened to his brain. After making the first post, was the user's brain blocked from producing more posts?

There is an ulterior motive why someone would do it, but I believe they are just part of spammers.
So far I'm not sure if I've ever found anyone who did, but what @lovesmayfamilis is talking about is something that may have happened before during an ICO and the bounty exploded.

There have been a lot of bounty spammers gone since the forums introduced the merit system. Many accounts were simply abandoned and only some of them started changing their posting patterns and quality in order to rank up and build a better reputation.