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July 26, 2023, 10:05:25 AM
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it will be better if you stay away from that person. Although we do not know his real purpose but it seems that there is big probability that he will use bitcoin for illegal transactions. we should prevent people to use bitcoin for illegal transaction so bitcoin image will be better, by this way I hope government will see bitcoin more positively. I suggest you to contact with good people only because positive people will make your life more positive too and negative people will make your life negative too.

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July 26, 2023, 10:18:37 AM
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What an awkward position to be in. It's something that you wouldn't want to be in knowing that it's dangerous and you could get mixed up with the wrong people. That's just madness.

Anyway, if it's just simple that you don't know what he is doing about it, I would decline if you understand why he will be utilizing it to do those illegal transactions.

Is it even safe in your neighborhood if you have that kind of person within your perimeters?

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July 26, 2023, 10:21:12 AM
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The answer to your query is very obvious. He will use BTC for illegal purposes. It would be like adding fuel to the fire. And you must not add that fuel. If you would, then you will also be caught in that fire. I hope you got my point. In the first place, if you have the option then report that person to the police. If you can't do that then at least do not tell him about BTC.
I agree with you on this opinion, but two things are involved here

1. Either he wants to learn about Bitcoin to use it in continuing his illegal drug dealing business or
2. He is looking for a place to stockpile the money he already made from the drug dealings or will make from the business in the future, for the reason that his transactions would not be traced to him, unlike a transaction done in the local fiat currency.

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July 26, 2023, 10:33:51 AM
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If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?
I think I understand what you are worried about in this matter. Because in this situation it will actually be difficult for you to avoid teaching your neighbor. Especially if your neighbor already knows that you have taught other neighbors.

You have several options in this situation. You pretend that you are busy and don't have time to teach him about bitcoin and try to get him to learn independently because it can be found on the internet easily. Because if you are involved in teaching bitcoin to your neighbors, you will definitely feel worried that your neighbors will make illegal transactions or something like that with these bitcoins.
Another option is that you don't need to be prejudiced and teach your neighbor as if you don't know what your neighbor's job is. You can pretty well think maybe he wants to learn to invest and wants to leave his old job. We don't know the real reason he wanted to learn bitcoin and if you have the right moment then you can ask him directly.

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July 26, 2023, 10:44:29 AM
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I think the answer to op's question depends a lot on the circumstances and personal beliefs.
Do you think that dealing drugs is a crime (not from a legal standpoint, but from a moral standpoint)? What kind of drugs or does it not matter to you? Another question is whether this person wants to abandon the current activity for something Bitcoin-related or not.
To me, it matters what kind of drugs the person's dealing, whether this person is engaged in other, more violent forms of crime, and it's a big plus if this person is seeking to escape the drug-dealing industry.
I wouldn't help a violent person, or someone who deals heroin and something of similar very strong and very negative impact. I also wouldn't help a person who deals drugs to minors. But if it's something lighter that adults get for themselves, and the person is alright (not aggressive), I wouldn't hold it against him.
All that aside, I wouldn't give anyone financial advice, I can merely help to learn more about the currency, wallets, basic security, and stress the risk of investing. Also, I wouldn't normally dedicate my time to someone I'm not friends with, unless it's something like paid private lessons.

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July 26, 2023, 11:36:15 AM
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The safest way for you OP not to be involved is recommend him YouTube tutorials, or respectfully say to him that he can do it by himself by asking google what he wanted to know about bitcoin or other cryptocurrency. I'm sure he wouldn't force you to teach him if you will reject him.

Since you don't know what's his real deal about Bitcoin, it's better to be at your safe zone rather than risking it by teaching him, because either he'll invest the money he earned from dealing drugs so that he would have a strong alibi just in case police would question him where did he get such big money.
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July 26, 2023, 11:54:42 AM
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OP I really do not get the context of  what you meant by drug as you never explained to us what drug you meant and if you meant hard drugs which are highly prohibited then It is obvious you got entangled in such a situation. I know you are trying to avoid such for your own safety and security reasons as well but you guys share same neighborhood which makes it very difficult to handle.  It could be very dangerous for you to have a link to that because if anything happens your name would definitely be mentioned and if that should happen you know the cop would come pick you up and possibly label you fellow in the crime which you have no knowledge about. I think you should be open to him telling him to meet a blockchain consultant who would teach him all he needs to know about bitcoin as you have no much idea about it or better still you relocate from that environment if you are on rentage because drug dealers could be very daring and dangerous as well.

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July 26, 2023, 12:02:51 PM
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If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?
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July 26, 2023, 12:23:22 PM
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If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?
I don't mind whatever that person's business is but I'll be off and go away from him and tell simply that I've been done with Bitcoin. It's not about teaching him how to buy Bitcoin but it is about knowing if you still have them.

From that point, you're already checked mate by him and is now aware that you own Bitcoin. It's easy to buy Bitcoin if both of you have got internet in your area.

That's why there could be other ill intention knowing that he's into such crimes. So, take care if it's someone know you physically because a $5 wrench attack could potentially happen.

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July 26, 2023, 12:27:48 PM
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What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?
That nature of the guy's business does not concern you if it is not terrorism. I do not see any reason that you should not teach him. He is not asking you to buy drug or to be in drug business. Just teach him the little part about sending and receiving.

There are many of them in the business that are using fiat. The help he is asking is not about what is illegal.

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July 26, 2023, 12:38:48 PM
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Even though he is your neighbor, he is a criminal, so there is no reason for you to be more friendly with him if you do not want to get in trouble. I see the problem is not so big that it is difficult to solve, why don't you provide some online material for him to teach himself about bitcoin instead of having to teach him little by little? You make the excuse of not having time and give the material to him to learn on his own. That way, you won't have to lose heart with your neighbors and also keep yourself safe.

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July 26, 2023, 12:42:38 PM
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First of all, you should report the neighbour to the police, as you yourself said he is a drug dealer. Moreover, is your neighbour too dumb? Nowadays, anything and everything is available on the internet. If he wanted, he could have easily learned about Bitcoins and how to implement them in his business. But he still went to ask you about it. Nevertheless, as a Bitcoiner, you should tell him about Bitcoins, but along with this, warn him about the consequences if he uses Bitcoins for illegal means.

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July 26, 2023, 12:46:18 PM
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You can teach him, but you should never teach anything connected with privacy. Just explain about the difference between Bitcoin with fiat or bank, the volatility, the security, how to buy Bitcoin in a centralized exchange etc. If he talk about how to run full node, using mixer, trade in decentralized exchange etc, just skip it and say you don't know about it.

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July 26, 2023, 01:11:32 PM
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First of all, you should report the neighbour to the police, as you yourself said he is a drug dealer. Moreover, is your neighbour too dumb? Nowadays, anything and everything is available on the internet. If he wanted, he could have easily learned about Bitcoins and how to implement them in his business. But he still went to ask you about it. Nevertheless, as a Bitcoiner, you should tell him about Bitcoins, but along with this, warn him about the consequences if he uses Bitcoins for illegal means.

It is better he avoids anything about him entirely. He could just tell him straight to the point for him to online and do a search for it if possible using youtube would be convenient  or better still relocate from that neighborhood as it is very dangerous to get entangled with drug dealers.
If reporting to the police would keep him and his family safe then there is no problem about that but if not do not dare for the sake of your family. Here in my country it is too risky to report any of such to the police because if yo do that, they would know you did that and if they are released, they would come after you or even when they are arested, there boys would do the dirty job on you. That's the risk in reporting them. So you had better relocate from that neighborhood or you avoid him entirely.

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July 26, 2023, 01:16:28 PM
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You can teach him, but you should never teach anything connected with privacy. Just explain about the difference between Bitcoin with fiat or bank, the volatility, the security, how to buy Bitcoin in a centralized exchange etc. If he talk about how to run full node, using mixer, trade in decentralized exchange etc, just skip it and say you don't know about it.

Firstly, he is a drug dealer and he already knows about bitcoin which means he knows bitcoin has what he needs to make his job more convenient. Second, he already knew the OP was an investor. So I think OP should take whatever excuse to refuse, shouldn't teach him even the basics of bitcoin. For me, the safest is still not to have any relationship in the first place, sometimes there will be incidents that we can't foresee when we have a complicated relationship with criminals.

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If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

Why not, how is the drug dealings he's into my own business, as long as am chanced and in best position to create time to teach him about bitcoin i will do, we cannot be desperate in knowing how people sum up their financial wealth and that's none of our business, they aren't accountable to anyone, what if what you perceived about him was a wrong impression.

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe?

As I've said earlier, we are not concerned about the means you get the money from, but we can give everyone the privacy he deserves together with the highest level of security when dealing with bitcoin, bitcoin is safe for asset and financial security, because it's decentralized and only you have the control over your wealth.

Teach anyone about bitcoin as long as it is not against the law in your country to use bitcoin as a means of payment, it's ok as long as it's legal in your country.



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July 26, 2023, 01:47:14 PM
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If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

As long as he gives you free drugs in exchange for the knowledge that seems fair lmao 🤣  obviously just kidding. That just sounds so sketch man, I would avoid that at all costs and tell him you got hacked or something and to seek expert advice 🤔  sometimes you have to fool the fool into thinking you're the fool so you can opt out of his foolish ways.

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This is the main reason one should never let anyone know that we are dealing in the Bitcoin. I mean the crime rate has grown a lot these days and you never know who would attack you in anger or intentionally for looting your bitcoins. These type of cases has already happened in the past many times so be aware of such approaches. When it is nearby you its even worst. Better to be cautious about it and keep every secrete for yourself. That’s the best way to avoid such situations as well.

As of now you better avoid him as if he does not exists and let go the situation. Hope so you inform the local authorities as precautionary step.
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If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?
He's not just consulting the service of a random guy on the street to teach him about Bitcoin but you, a neighbour he has important information about such as your place of residence and probably your phone number. My advice is if you are very certain he's dealing drugs then stay away from him and do not teach him anything about Bitcoin. He might want to use you to learn about Bitcoin, trading, wallet security, bitcoin mixers and if he's eventually caught up, he might decide to name you as an accomplice. Shit happens and I've actually seen it before. Just stay away.

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July 26, 2023, 02:31:26 PM
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If you are aware that your neighbor living next door is into drug dealing and he come seek your advice how to buy Bitcoin, will you teach him?

What comes straight to mind is embezzling the ill-gotten money, but is this even safe? My other neighbor knows I am into Bitcoin and he learned from me, I guess that's how this other neighbor knew, I told him to go meet the next neighbor but he said he is not ready to teach.

What will you do if something like this is happening around you? Why would a drug dealer want to learn Bitcoin if not for a safer haven for running the business?

My mind isn't settled as I keep thinking different things, what is on your mind readers?

You get yourselves into a mess...

No one should know that you have Bitcoin and if someone does (like your wife or your son, not normally a neighbor) they should be discreet enough not to go around telling drug dealers.

But as we say in poker, as played, once the mistake is made, what I would do is minimize the Bitcoin I have, even after a while say that I have sold it and no longer have it, and give the drug dealer the minimum information if it is going to be a problem not to give it to him so that he is the one who learns. He doesn't need you to learn a lot having internet.

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