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July 29, 2023, 11:09:41 AM
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There is a field where you can explain why you think the reported website is not safe and should be banned.
You will not get a quick result, as the site looks legal and similar to closed-source wallets that generate an old private key for the user. From our point of view, it is a scam service, as any Bitcoin that is sent to that address will be withdrawn to scammer’s wallet, but from Google’s point of view it is a service. If it was legal, it would explain to users the risks involved.
Also, removing such content just because of reports may be abused by competitors in different scenarios.
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July 29, 2023, 11:23:58 AM
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If it was legal, it would explain to users the risks involved.
It does "explain" the risks:
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To be more secure, you should download this wallet generator from your browser and run it offline.
That text was there long before the site was bought by a scammer who compromised the offline version. It also shows "We" as if it's the same owner, and endorsements from long lost times.

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July 29, 2023, 12:19:58 PM
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You can blame Google, they show these sites as a first search result for words like wallet generator, generate bitcoin address, paper wallet, and they may also tell the user, generate the key offline to ensure that your coins are not stolen.
Google doesn't care, nor do they carry out any research whether certain sites are scams or not. It's also possible to purchase ad space and advertise scams in Google ads to other users. Remember when ChipMixer was still alive and you couldn't find the official website on Google? At the same time, there were loads of phishing sites that appeared on top of the search results. It's the same with other mixers, like Sinbad. The phishing versions aren't the first result, but they still appear close to the top.
It worth to say that I tried to visit WalletGenerator.net from popular browsers right now and all of them gave me a warning that it's a fraud website.

You can try reporting the website to "Google safe browsing": https://safebrowsing.google.com/safebrowsing/report_phish/
I haven't seen a result from those reports in years. Google doesn't care, and I gave up.

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Maybe they will remove it from their search results if many people report it.
Reporting bad sites shouldn't be a petition that needs to be signed many times.
It's not a petition but is very logical that the more reports they have, the higher the chance of taking the case seriously because tons of websites are reported every day by bots and spammers for no reason, so, how can google take care of each reports if it doesn't take the number of reports in consideration?

If it was legal, it would explain to users the risks involved.
It does "explain" the risks:
Quote from: Scam site
To be more secure, you should download this wallet generator from your browser and run it offline.
That text was there long before the site was bought by a scammer who compromised the offline version. It also shows "We" as if it's the same owner, and endorsements from long lost times.
The scammer is very clever, played perfectly with words and the advice of generating it offline via downloaded website. By the way, problem is that even when I first typed paper wallet, my results were articles about these online paper wallet generators and now I understand that a lot of people don't do research and trust the first information that they get on Google.
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July 29, 2023, 01:52:07 PM
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The government were able to take down mixers but unable to taken down these scam paper wallet generator websites.
Mixers are a problem to the governments because being able to mix gives you certain freedoms they don't wish you to have. The perfect citizen isn't anonymous. He is an open book they can peek into whenever needed. Anything that enables freedom, privacy, and anonymity is, therefore, a threat. And threats need to be handled with swiftly. To protect the nation, of course. Saying the service was used for money laundering and financing terrorism is the perfect cover. Luckily, such things were never and will never be possible with their banking buddies who do everything by the book. Roll Eyes

They don't care if people get bitten by fake wallet generators. It just means more users will get disappointed with Bitcoin and will go back to traditional finance where they have greater oversight.

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August 03, 2023, 11:18:36 AM
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It worth to say that I tried to visit WalletGenerator.net from popular browsers right now and all of them gave me a warning that it's a fraud website.
Non of them gave me a warning. The popular ones like Chrome, Edge do not care about privacy and security and they do not give me any warning . Also other browsers are not giving me any warning.

It's not a petition but is very logical that the more reports they have, the higher the chance of taking the case seriously because tons of websites are reported every day by bots and spammers for no reason, so, how can google take care of each reports if it doesn't take the number of reports in consideration?
Are you saying it is hard for those registers and Google and other search engines to do their work appropriately? Especially Google and those other search engines do not care about their users.

Some people may be holding for a very long time and not knowing their coins has been stolen immediately they use that scam paper wallet generator.

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August 09, 2023, 11:31:02 AM
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January 26, 2024, 02:59:00 PM
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I made paper wallets on this website a few years ago. The safest way possible (I though, back then), doing it offline etc.
I got stolen this year :/
BTC went to a non-KYC exchange (tradeogre), so I don't think I'll see them again, but I'm in if people gather to prosecute that website's operator?
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January 26, 2024, 06:04:42 PM
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It's ridiculous how the website is still online even when some members reported the domain to Namecheap for fraud over 6 months ago Embarrassed
What the hell is the point of the report option then if Namecheap doesn't even do anything?

And now we have more victims

I made paper wallets on this website a few years ago. The safest way possible (I though, back then), doing it offline etc.
I got stolen this year :/
BTC went to a non-KYC exchange (tradeogre), so I don't think I'll see them again, but I'm in if people gather to prosecute that website's operator?

Sorry about the loss of funds, but how do you plan to prosecute a ghost website operator you have never seen or arrested?

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January 27, 2024, 10:27:55 PM
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I made paper wallets on this website a few years ago. The safest way possible (I though, back then), doing it offline etc.
I got stolen this year :/
BTC went to a non-KYC exchange (tradeogre), so I don't think I'll see them again, but I'm in if people gather to prosecute that website's operator?
It's a sad story like the one of OP but unfortunately it's not a surprising one. Many reputed users here heavily insist on the offline/air gapped device point without talking about entropy while it is one of the main vulnerability of wallets since many years. If there is a bug created voluntarily or not into the RNG code of your wallet, generating your seed/key and using it at the top of the Himalayas or in the middle of the Sahara won't protect your funds. That's why a physical source entropy/randomness is primodial unlike what many people think.
Bitaddress at least invites people to use physical dices.

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How do I make a wallet using dice? What is B6?
An important part of creating a Bitcoin wallet is ensuring the random numbers used to create the wallet are truly random. Physical randomness is better than computer generated pseudo-randomness. The easiest way to generate physical randomness is with dice. To create a Bitcoin private key you only need one six sided die which you roll 99 times. Stopping each time to record the value of the die. When recording the values follow these rules: 1=1, 2=2, 3=3, 4=4, 5=5, 6=0. By doing this you are recording the big random number, your private key, in B6 or base 6 format.

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