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August 04, 2023, 02:11:55 PM
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I think it usually depends on the boy's decision whether to tell his right or not to lie but it is better to tell the truth because he is following religious lines. Even though he won $46k from sports betting, it's a really big amount his parents probably won't say anything about. Following his parents' orders, he can spend the money on other activities that will bring good things in his life. He can increase its value by doing business or investment. If he does good things, his parents will be happy. If he makes a wrong decision alone, he can suffer. It is expected that parents can guide him to the right decision.

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August 04, 2023, 02:32:42 PM
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lol...dude move the fuck out of the house.  Okay to be fair, I've got close friends in India who I know live with their families their entire lives as part of their culture/religion...and this is actually something they like to do as well (As an American, this is very hard for most of us to understand, as growing up and becoming adult and moving out of the house is all kids want as they grow up..that's what we look forward to) and maybe this is the case with your friend?  If so, if he chooses to live with them as an adult because of cultural reasons..than I would say be honest.  I'd also say sorry but I'm a damn adult, I can bet if I want to. 

Sounds like he's got enough money to leave the house now if he wants.
Unfortunately I don't think he is a child anymore, more precisely he is the age of 20-23 has entered the teenage category, and of course if a child is that age, he can work and support himself, so you can let go of his culture and he has Enough courage and money to leave home, based on the amount of money he got and the age that has entered teenagers.

First of all, what he did was wrong because he didn't follow the order of his parent's but now that he already committed the mistake, I think it will now be easy for him to commit another mistake which is to lie, just in case his parents find out about the money. Im sure there must be other profitable activity that is allowed in his country like investing or trading. He can just say that he got the money from those sources. There might still be people who can feel guilty right after making one mistake and they will confess it right away. They think this will lessen the punishment that they will be getting.
Sure it was a mistake but everything had happened and he had brought the money. But if he's not telling the truth, he's already lying but maybe he can use the money to set up a new business. He can also say that his business started small and is trying to grow his business. He can also say that he borrowed some amount to trade or invest and made a big profit. Again, everything had happened and it was up to him what he wanted to tell his parents. Let's just hope his parents take it and remind him that this is for the last time.
I was quite doubtful he was building a business with the money he got, but indeed nothing is impossible if he really can succeed in building a business with money, but usually people who have gotten easy money will be difficult to get out of the gambling ease zone.

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August 04, 2023, 09:18:51 PM
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I think it usually depends on the boy's decision whether to tell his right or not to lie but it is better to tell the truth because he is following religious lines. Even though he won $46k from sports betting, it's a really big amount his parents probably won't say anything about. Following his parents' orders, he can spend the money on other activities that will bring good things in his life. He can increase its value by doing business or investment. If he does good things, his parents will be happy. If he makes a wrong decision alone, he can suffer. It is expected that parents can guide him to the right decision.
I wonder how on earth some persons can be this lucky
It is true that most person's are from background were they believe in some religious believe that goes against their wish.Good life is the best thing man can ever wish for himself,and when it seems one has gotten a way to get that good life,they will be left unhappy due to their religious believe and practices.If I were that boy,as long as I have gotten this kind of money,the first thing I will do is to open upto my parents,and tell them the source of the money,if they refuse taking the money from me,then I will know I have offered help and they refused,so their sufferings is no longer on me,and its no longer my business because they choose to suffer,and I don't really see any reason why a particular religion will believe gambling is bad.It can only be bad when it lured you to do things that are illegal,but as long as you do the right thing,if you are opportuned to win,then I don't see any reason why such money shouldn't be used.And for any parent that is still practicing this kind of primitivity,I just think they love poverty and nothing else.I will advice that boy to tell them how he made that money,if they refuse to take it from him,he should look for an apartment elsewhere,and leave a comfortable life there.


 
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August 04, 2023, 09:31:09 PM
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I think it usually depends on the boy's decision whether to tell his right or not to lie but it is better to tell the truth because he is following religious lines. Even though he won $46k from sports betting, it's a really big amount his parents probably won't say anything about. Following his parents' orders, he can spend the money on other activities that will bring good things in his life. He can increase its value by doing business or investment. If he does good things, his parents will be happy. If he makes a wrong decision alone, he can suffer. It is expected that parents can guide him to the right decision.
I wonder how on earth some persons can be this lucky
It is true that most person's are from background were they believe in some religious believe that goes against their wish.Good life is the best thing man can ever wish for himself,and when it seems one has gotten a way to get that good life,they will be left unhappy due to their religious believe and practices.If I were that boy,as long as I have gotten this kind of money,the first thing I will do is to open upto my parents,and tell them the source of the money,if they refuse taking the money from me,then I will know I have offered help and they refused,so their sufferings is no longer on me,and its no longer my business because they choose to suffer,and I don't really see any reason why a particular religion will believe gambling is bad.It can only be bad when it lured you to do things that are illegal,but as long as you do the right thing,if you are opportuned to win,then I don't see any reason why such money shouldn't be used.And for any parent that is still practicing this kind of primitivity,I just think they love poverty and nothing else.I will advice that boy to tell them how he made that money,if they refuse to take it from him,he should look for an apartment elsewhere,and leave a comfortable life there.


In speaking of luck then it wont really be having that totally the need or having the criteria whether you are rich or poor, being a minor or old ones because on the time that you would really be making out some bets then

you would really be always be having the potential that you would really be able to make up some chances on hitting up something whether small or big and on the time that you are somewhat on the age on which you are still relying on your parents or living but you do able to hit up those numbers but they are really that skeptical or really that prohibiting gambling thing then you are already on your right age and mind on how to assess
things and if you do find out that it would really be creating some potential problems or conflicts in between family members then it would really be just that normal that you would really trying out to hide it
because you dont like conflicts or something like this but if you are a type of whose been honest then you would definitely be saying these stuffs into your parents.

On the age of 22 or something like this then its impossible that you wont be able to think up carefully on what are the probable situations that could happen if you do intend out to say.

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August 05, 2023, 06:43:10 AM
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I was quite doubtful he was building a business with the money he got, but indeed nothing is impossible if he really can succeed in building a business with money, but usually people who have gotten easy money will be difficult to get out of the gambling ease zone.
If he could realize what he could do with the money. But if not, who knows what he will do with the money? After all, that's just an approximation since I don't know anything about him either. But usually, if someone earns a lot of money from gambling, the money will run out quickly because that person will use the money to buy things that he doesn't have or use it on things that are not necessary until the money runs out. And when the money is gone, they will return to gambling and hope to win big money like before. This has happened many times around me and for people who win money from gambling, their lives never change.

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August 05, 2023, 07:15:34 AM
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I don't see anything new in this story. More or less Roll Eyes
Keep such a win as a secret, and instead the "invest approach" related to this amount is innovative and interesting, and its and interesting point.
 I understand the importance of certain "beliefs" but the winner is old enough and able to decide for himself what he believes in and how to manage his private property ...

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August 05, 2023, 07:28:00 AM
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Someone recently won $46,606 from making a correct prediction on one of the matches in the on-going 2023 FIFA Women World Cup competition from his wager of $10 on a sports betting website. The person is unemployed and within the ages of 20 - 23. He lives with his parents who are strict religious people that frown on gambling and other youthful vices. His parents are certainly not going to be happy that their son engages in gambling despite winning such huge amount of money. He doesn't want them to be upset with him. He says he's going to keep it a secret. I disagreed with him because despite having strict parents, they are going to be mad at him for a little while but I don't think they'll tell him to return the money. What do you guys think? Should he tell his parents or secretly invest the money while acting his regular self around the house?
Personally I see no any reason why he should  tell them since he is already aware of their strict behavior towards gambling, some parents can even report such a case to their extended family thereby exposing the whole issue, I think the best bet is to invest his money or hodl in a wallet and continue to live his normal life and avoid any extravagant way of life or lavish spendings to avoid being suspicious of acquiring wealth fraudulently, though a 20-23 year should be able to decide on his own, however this varies with different countries and culture, the fact that he is employed will even motivate him to secure his future with the fund he won, I believe after some time he would leave his parent house to start a new life.

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August 05, 2023, 07:51:35 PM
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well, leaving the strange part ( not to say that it is impossible for someone with 10$ to earn $46k in sports betting ) of these 10$ becoming $46k, parents should not force their children to follow the same religions as them, it is up to the children choose their own religions or have no religion at all, in which case the guy is over 18 years old, so he has the right to gamble and do whatever he wants with his money including that he has the right to tell his parents about the money he earned or not telling his parents anything. he is not obliged to tell his parents, now as a matter of common sense and good manners, the son can tell his parents that he won that amount of money at the casino

he would not be pending permission from the parents to use the money, he would just be communicating to the parents that he had earned that amount of money and then he could even help the parents if they accepted, now if the parents were angry, then the son should take the money and buy him a house to live on his own because he is already an adult and has the duty to make decisions on his own without becoming dependent on his parents. religion is something that destroys families, destroys friendships and destroys marriages. that's why the son should not give in to the parents' wishes if they ask or order the son not to use the money he won with gambling

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August 05, 2023, 10:37:10 PM
Last edit: August 07, 2023, 12:03:00 AM by macson
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Someone recently won $46,606 from making a correct prediction on one of the matches in the on-going 2023 FIFA Women World Cup competition from his wager of $10 on a sports betting website. The person is unemployed and within the ages of 20 - 23. He lives with his parents who are strict religious people that frown on gambling and other youthful vices. His parents are certainly not going to be happy that their son engages in gambling despite winning such huge amount of money. He doesn't want them to be upset with him. He says he's going to keep it a secret. I disagreed with him because despite having strict parents, they are going to be mad at him for a little while but I don't think they'll tell him to return the money. What do you guys think? Should he tell his parents or secretly invest the money while acting his regular self around the house?
betting is indeed considered a sin by many religious people, but are humans innocent, when you win a game that you bet on, believe that it is fate, the money you win has changed your life 180 degrees, if i were that person, i would keep it a secret my victory from my parents, there is no point in saying it, surely if you say it now then you will receive resistance, being too honest in life is also not good, you must have a secret that you know yourself (hiding big things like gambling wins for a better future i think is ok)

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August 05, 2023, 11:39:13 PM
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I think it usually depends on the boy's decision whether to tell his right or not to lie but it is better to tell the truth because he is following religious lines. Even though he won $46k from sports betting, it's a really big amount his parents probably won't say anything about. Following his parents' orders, he can spend the money on other activities that will bring good things in his life. He can increase its value by doing business or investment. If he does good things, his parents will be happy. If he makes a wrong decision alone, he can suffer. It is expected that parents can guide him to the right decision.

It is better to tell the truth.  It will free us from any form of shackles that can limit our freedom.  The boy must tell his father about the incident and accept whatever the result is.  Though I think money talks often time even though people are strictly religious people in front of people, we never know what lurks behind the scene.  Aside from that, I believe the father will just give the son a proper reminding and with the thought of nothing negative happens, the father will be easy to the son.  Besides I believe the son is old enough to stand for what he has done.

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August 06, 2023, 04:45:47 AM
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I find that only poor people have parents who are very religious and strict. If this boy's father was rich, they wouldn't care if their son won or lost and the boy wouldn't be scared of them. They say it is better to say sorry than to ask for permission. If I were the boy, I will tell my parents in 2 to 3 years. For now what I'd do is to try and create a fake employment letter. At the end of each month, I bring home some money like salary and help the family out financially while I wisely invest the rest. By the time they find out or I tell them , I would have been of age to move out of the house and be independent. So, tell them the truth but not the whole truth.

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August 06, 2023, 05:14:45 AM
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Someone recently won $46,606 from making a correct prediction on one of the matches in the on-going 2023 FIFA Women World Cup competition from his wager of $10 on a sports betting website. The person is unemployed and within the ages of 20 - 23. He lives with his parents who are strict religious people that frown on gambling and other youthful vices. His parents are certainly not going to be happy that their son engages in gambling despite winning such huge amount of money. He doesn't want them to be upset with him. He says he's going to keep it a secret. I disagreed with him because despite having strict parents, they are going to be mad at him for a little while but I don't think they'll tell him to return the money. What do you guys think? Should he tell his parents or secretly invest the money while acting his regular self around the house?
I am not so sure that they will not force him to give the money away if they find out about the source of that money, there are religions that do not allow for their adherents to benefit economically from activities that are forbidden, and if his parents are as strict as you say they are then they could force him to return or give away the money, and since the amount is big I think it is better to keep it a secret for a while and maybe he could start his own small business and then justify his profits to his parents in this way.
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Someone recently won $46,606 from making a correct prediction on one of the matches in the on-going 2023 FIFA Women World Cup competition from his wager of $10 on a sports betting website. The person is unemployed and within the ages of 20 - 23. He lives with his parents who are strict religious people that frown on gambling and other youthful vices. His parents are certainly not going to be happy that their son engages in gambling despite winning such huge amount of money. He doesn't want them to be upset with him. He says he's going to keep it a secret. I disagreed with him because despite having strict parents, they are going to be mad at him for a little while but I don't think they'll tell him to return the money. What do you guys think? Should he tell his parents or secretly invest the money while acting his regular self around the house?

Looking at your post history, I understand that this guy lives in Uzbekistan, where the average income is less than $200 a month. In other words, the prize is about 20 years of the country's average salary. At his age, 20 or more, he's old enough to leave home and that money will last him a long time, especially if he knows how to manage and looks for a job. Another thing is that he would like to tell his parents and squander it, but given the situation, I would consider saying that I am independent, going to visit them from time to time, and live my life as I please.

What I would also hope is that he has a head and doesn't become a degenerate gambler who loses all that amount and more in a short time.

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August 06, 2023, 10:45:56 AM
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I was quite doubtful he was building a business with the money he got, but indeed nothing is impossible if he really can succeed in building a business with money, but usually people who have gotten easy money will be difficult to get out of the gambling ease zone.
If he could realize what he could do with the money. But if not, who knows what he will do with the money? After all, that's just an approximation since I don't know anything about him either. But usually, if someone earns a lot of money from gambling, the money will run out quickly because that person will use the money to buy things that he doesn't have or use it on things that are not necessary until the money runs out. And when the money is gone, they will return to gambling and hope to win big money like before. This has happened many times around me and for people who win money from gambling, their lives never change.
something big is obtained instantly or very easily, it will also run out very quickly. I mean when a gambler gets a big win after that the money runs out quickly and its unclear to buy things or anything. because its true what @bangjoe said that something easy will make someone comfortable and its difficult to get out of the convenience zone. buy whatever he wants because later he will still win again from gambling without realizing that such luck will only get once in a lifetime.
for me, only professional gamblers who can manage their winnings from gambling well can have a realistic mindset and have the thought of always doubling their money in places that are not too high-risk, for example opening a food business.

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August 06, 2023, 02:17:35 PM
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something big is obtained instantly or very easily, it will also run out very quickly. I mean when a gambler gets a big win after that the money runs out quickly and its unclear to buy things or anything. because its true what @bangjoe said that something easy will make someone comfortable and its difficult to get out of the convenience zone. buy whatever he wants because later he will still win again from gambling without realizing that such luck will only get once in a lifetime.
for me, only professional gamblers who can manage their winnings from gambling well can have a realistic mindset and have the thought of always doubling their money in places that are not too high-risk, for example opening a food business.
Maybe when we succeed in winning a lot of money, we should really be able to manage the money and allocate it where it should be. Maybe we can use the money to invest in bitcoin, save for daily needs, and not use the money for unnecessary things so we can use the money properly. If we already have a lot of money, most of us will forget to manage our finances and instead use it for things we don't need. So winning a lot of money in gambling is something that we rarely get so we have to really manage the money. And as for the kid, it looks like he does manage his money and probably doesn't tell his parents until he can make money from his newly created business instead of being scolded by his parents because gambling is not a good way to make money.

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Someone recently won $46,606 from making a correct prediction on one of the matches in the on-going 2023 FIFA Women World Cup competition from his wager of $10 on a sports betting website. The person is unemployed and within the ages of 20 - 23. He lives with his parents who are strict religious people that frown on gambling and other youthful vices. His parents are certainly not going to be happy that their son engages in gambling despite winning such huge amount of money. He doesn't want them to be upset with him. He says he's going to keep it a secret. I disagreed with him because despite having strict parents, they are going to be mad at him for a little while but I don't think they'll tell him to return the money. What do you guys think? Should he tell his parents or secretly invest the money while acting his regular self around the house?

How can you win $46000 from only 10$ in a sports bet? That seems impossible to me. What were the odds of those matches? Can you share which match did he bet  Huh

Now coming to the query that whether he should tell his parents or not, I think there will be no option for him but to inform his parents otherwise how can he keep saving all this money? I do not know the reaction of his parents, they might get greedy seeing all this money or they may fortify the money if they are too religious and won't take any money coming through gambling.

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August 06, 2023, 02:43:10 PM
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The first rule before gambling is be ready.

Be ready to lose all of your money, be ready to hit a jackpot and get asked to submit KYC, be ready someone else will know you're a gambler, be ready the site will get hacked and you will lose all of your money including your privacy etc.

This boy know he have a strict parent, so he must be ready if his parent will ask him to return all his winning to the casino.

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August 06, 2023, 03:05:21 PM
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something big is obtained instantly or very easily, it will also run out very quickly. I mean when a gambler gets a big win after that the money runs out quickly and its unclear to buy things or anything. because its true what @bangjoe said that something easy will make someone comfortable and its difficult to get out of the convenience zone. buy whatever he wants because later he will still win again from gambling without realizing that such luck will only get once in a lifetime.
for me, only professional gamblers who can manage their winnings from gambling well can have a realistic mindset and have the thought of always doubling their money in places that are not too high-risk, for example opening a food business.
Maybe when we succeed in winning a lot of money, we should really be able to manage the money and allocate it where it should be. Maybe we can use the money to invest in bitcoin, save for daily needs, and not use the money for unnecessary things so we can use the money properly. If we already have a lot of money, most of us will forget to manage our finances and instead use it for things we don't need. So winning a lot of money in gambling is something that we rarely get so we have to really manage the money. And as for the kid, it looks like he does manage his money and probably doesn't tell his parents until he can make money from his newly created business instead of being scolded by his parents because gambling is not a good way to make money.
Maybe for those of us who realize that today we will definitely use it for things that can make our position more good, whether it is included in investment and business so that what we have won from gambling produces more results than fighting it back in gambling, but for I to do that, if I get a big victory from gambling, may not necessarily control it easily my ambitions when I get a big victory to spend it and fulfill the desires that exist in me, especially for people who do not have a mindset as an entrepreneur or investor, he will Always use the money from his victory for things that are not important for economic growth, re-risking into gambling is the way to keep on relying his fate to get the money again is the option that they always take, as far as I encounter to this day is, No people who really can build a business from their victory gamble, I have never heard of it, maybe there is someone who can do it, I want to know.

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August 07, 2023, 02:03:45 AM
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If he knew that his parents would be angry when he told the truth about his big win and received the money, it would be better for him not to say anything about it. Better to save the money for a while and act like nothing happened not to arouse any suspicion from his parents. Or he could secretly invest the money into something more beneficial to him. But there was also another option he could make, which was to tell about his winning honestly.
First of all, what he did was wrong because he didn't follow the order of his parent's but now that he already committed the mistake, I think it will now be easy for him to commit another mistake which is to lie, just in case his parents find out about the money. Im sure there must be other profitable activity that is allowed in his country like investing or trading. He can just say that he got the money from those sources. There might still be people who can feel guilty right after making one mistake and they will confess it right away. They think this will lessen the punishment that they will be getting.

His parents loves him and that's why. His will to take an action should not be cause he is afraid of them he must think about god/Allah first. If he don't care about the creator then fuck his parents no need to worry about them.
Our parents are important because without them, we won't exist but without god there's also no people that will exist. There's even a saying that "god must come first". Maybe it's fine to dis-obey our parent's as long as what they are telling to us is not the same as what is written in the bible.
I think something, we are sinners by nature, but here in the case it was a child who did it, and a child generally does not have a mind like that of an adult, yes I know he disobeyed, but tell me something, what Sometimes a child does not disobey his parents (I sometimes did when I was a child) that is why it is not worth playing, secondly I know that without them our parents would have no life and I agree that God is first above all things, in fact the first commandment is that of loving God above all things, so from there we must also ask ourselves, if the child did that, it is because it was allowed to do so.

Now the case of the parents, that a son tells me that he earned a lot of money, but that he earned it because he disobeyed me, well I hug him the same and even with more joy, please how are you going to tell him that not money? He is also a child who did it, I know that the fact is bad, but I think that a person is not that he is comfortable, he is still happy with the end, but I think he can achieve happiness faster or in at least 90% because since money helps people to be happy, that is really what I need the most to be a very happy man, sometimes religions are very radical and make people become or become something they are not , and God does not like that, and the children belong to God, so I think that this is more than forgiven, now those who must ask for forgiveness in this case, without a doubt, God is the father of that child.

There are some things that happen where I am with some religions, where they ask people to give 10% of what they earn, and that seems so incredible to me, because they take advantage of the things of God the Heavenly Father to make money, and that is something that does not reach God, what reaches God are good deeds, or giving money to someone who really needs it, not for a Church, in fact in the Bible it says something like that, it does not reach God to the one who gives more money to a Church but other works that actually have spiritual weight.

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August 07, 2023, 03:12:52 AM
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Someone recently won $46,606 from making a correct prediction on one of the matches in the on-going 2023 FIFA Women World Cup competition from his wager of $10 on a sports betting website. The person is unemployed and within the ages of 20 - 23. He lives with his parents who are strict religious people that frown on gambling and other youthful vices. His parents are certainly not going to be happy that their son engages in gambling despite winning such huge amount of money. He doesn't want them to be upset with him. He says he's going to keep it a secret. I disagreed with him because despite having strict parents, they are going to be mad at him for a little while but I don't think they'll tell him to return the money. What do you guys think? Should he tell his parents or secretly invest the money while acting his regular self around the house?
Negative effects that had never been thought before would definitely appear if he told the truth to his very religious parents. He has to keep his winnings secret by allocating the money to a safe place like investing in Bitcoin until he finds a decent job. At certain times there are things that need to be told to parents and there are things that need to be kept secret in order to maintain the harmony of the relationship between children and their parents.
The over protective nature of parents cannot be blamed, they have their own way of educating their children. The wisest step in a position like this is to find a decent job so that parents don't suspect anything when their child starts to improve economically.

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