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July 30, 2023, 01:30:59 PM
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A madman gives someone a lottery number and that same number open door for the gambler.

A gambler dreamt about a lottery number and it become a reality..

If supernatural isn't real why did all these came true?

I dunno, I'll just assume it was all pure luck. however, it is a gamble. if you are given a number from a madman or from your dreams it all depends on your beliefs. maybe you will bet but there must be doubts that make you also bet a small amount.
everyone has their own beliefs and thoughts. superstitious or not, in gambling we always have the principle of luck.

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July 30, 2023, 02:12:12 PM
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Superstition is real, if this man believe that sharing is game with someone else to bet the opposite can ruin his luck it's possible it will happen, it will only make sense to me if the stranger promises to share half of the money with me if things go his own way  Grin Grin. I mean what do you guys think? Isn't this a wonderful way to gamble too?

I read some posts about people saying they will walk away from him, I won't, I will give him my own rules and he needs to abide by it, if he doesn't like it he will leave, try making money out of every opportunity Grin.

A madman gives someone a lottery number and that same number open door for the gambler.

A gambler dreamt about a lottery number and it become a reality..

If supernatural isn't real why did all these came true?




Maybe a one in a billion chance happening and the bettor happened to just get it due to sheer luck? I don't believe in premonitions, clairvoyance, or anything superstitious, so my mind will always elect to say that it's out of luck that's why it hit and nothing more. If that's out of one's dream, then why would other dreamers win the lottery all the same?

The human mind will always believe what it wants to believe. It can and will fabricate stories of superstitious nature to give explanation on things that doesn't need any explanation at all.
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July 30, 2023, 02:19:40 PM
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So why this belief or do you think it could be true?
Do you feel cool sharing your predictions with other people and how has the outcome been looking at all the times you have shared your predictions with others?

Who’s in the right mind that will think this is true. Copying someone’s bet doesn’t affect the result of the game. The only cons of doing this is you might split the profit to other gambler that copy it which you will not like. I think not sharing betting slip on lottery is really the best thing to do since you are all competing on a single prize pool while sharing it doesn’t give you any advantage.

But believing that you will lose if someone copy your bet pick is absolutely absurd no matter what belief you are holding.

Do you feel cool sharing your predictions with other people?

No.

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July 30, 2023, 02:25:48 PM
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There's this scene I witnessed today at a local sport betting house  and I found it very funny and unbelievably true at same time. A certain young man after making his predictions placed his bet and his betting slip was printed to him then another gambler in the house approached him and asked to make a rebet of his games for himself but I was shocked when the young man refused with the excuse that he doesn't share his predictions that sharing it will make him lose his bet. More like having his luck to win reduce or changed maybe because the person he shared his games with could be someone with a bad luck on that day.

Although I have heard of behaviors like this with some gamblers  but I never believe it not until I witnessed it myself today and it was weird to me imagining how you will get to lose your bet by allowing someone else rebet it. In all my years of gambling I believe that a game prediction that will play as predicted will definitely play not regarding the number of people that bet on same prediction.

So why this belief or do you think it could be true? Or is it one of those superstitious belief among gamblers?
Do you feel cool sharing your predictions with other people and how has the outcome been looking at all the times you have shared your predictions with others?

That sounds like pure Superstition to me. From the perspective of a rational and logical thinker, it is just a weird, personal ritual that people do in order to make themselves feel better about losing the bet completely later on. They basically need to fabricate an excuse why "it did not work".

Superstition is rampant among gamblers. Especially in many Asia countries. But every country has its own tradition on luck and how to summon it. Obviously none of them work and its all just ridiculous. Just like star signs or special rocks.

But there is a huge industry which can be taken advantage of, if you know the country's culture and know the superstition rituals. For example, the number 4 is considered bad luck in Asian countries while red can be considered a lucky color. 

You can easily use that information for marketing purposes.

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July 30, 2023, 03:14:58 PM
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This is a typical superstition of gamblers who believe in all sorts of prejudices and signs, but do not want to believe in the theory of probability, which, by the way, is not on their side, and also that any casino or bookmaker is a business in which everything is already mathematically calculated and it is almost impossible for players (most) to win. It's funny when they don't believe in common sense and reason, but believe in superstitions and omens. Such is the typical gambler who dreams of hitting the big jackpot. It is this dream that casinos use for their own selfish purposes and earn quietly.

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July 30, 2023, 03:28:08 PM
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So why this belief or do you think it could be true? Or is it one of those superstitious belief among gamblers?
This is another superstition among gamblers, because it is not possible that your single action will affect the outcome of a game and the bets of other thousands of gamblers. The man must have gambled at times when he showed people his game and the games went bad, and then some other time when he kept his game to himself and he won. This is why he has the false belief. There are many superstitions and you do not have to blame these people for it, they are just doing what they think works for them.

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July 30, 2023, 03:42:15 PM
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Lol. This is one heck of a hilarious story. The gambler that you are talking about probably comes from a superstitious family who think way too much about certain things making life difficult for themselves.

Also, I have no idea why the other guy wanted to copy his bets since that is really weird if you ask me.

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July 30, 2023, 03:46:57 PM
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There's this scene I witnessed today at a local sport betting house  and I found it very funny and unbelievably true at same time. A certain young man after making his predictions placed his bet and his betting slip was printed to him then another gambler in the house approached him and asked to make a rebet of his games for himself but I was shocked when the young man refused with the excuse that he doesn't share his predictions that sharing it will make him lose his bet. More like having his luck to win reduce or changed maybe because the person he shared his games with could be someone with a bad luck on that day.

Although I have heard of behaviors like this with some gamblers  but I never believe it not until I witnessed it myself today and it was weird to me imagining how you will get to lose your bet by allowing someone else rebet it. In all my years of gambling I believe that a game prediction that will play as predicted will definitely play not regarding the number of people that bet on same prediction.

So why this belief or do you think it could be true? Or is it one of those superstitious belief among gamblers?
Do you feel cool sharing your predictions with other people and how has the outcome been looking at all the times you have shared your predictions with others?
I personally don't believe such superstition especially on gambling. There's no way that a bad luck can be passed to you by letting someone copy your bet. Allowing others to copy you can affect the profit that you can take on rare cases like your bet being copied by a high roller that can adjust the odds by the amount of his bet. These supersition is common on physical casino. One example is coming to a casino with a girl, I believe that this is common even on movies, we can see this as they treat the girl to be their lucky charm. Though I still don't believe such superstition.

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July 30, 2023, 05:06:17 PM
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It can be right or wrong depending on each person who believes in that superstition. If they don't believe it, they will share their predictions with others and still wait for the results together. I once shared my prediction with my friend, but the result was lost, so we just accepted it. And sometimes, my friends also share their predictions with me, and sometimes the results are winning, but sometimes the results are also losing. But that doesn't matter to me because gambling is entertainment, so whatever the outcome, I will accept it.

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July 30, 2023, 05:15:55 PM
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I'm not sure that's the reason why the young gambler refused to make a rebet of his bet. If he explicitly said that then cool, but I think I know the reason why he refused the old man's requests.

For one, there must be a fixed prize pot at stake for gamblers to claim after they win, having more than one winning bet will divvy the pot's prize amongst these people, he may want the pot for himself only should he win the game. Another reason would be to avoid troubles with other gamblers. I would assume he never knew this guy his whole life and would rather decline an old man's request and steer away from potential trouble if things go awry, than grant him what he wants and face discrepancies in the future. I'd say it's wise both ways and if I were in his position I might do the same lol.

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July 30, 2023, 05:40:53 PM
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I have seen this kind of belief among many people in different places and not only gambling. Now can't blame this person for his belief, since he doesn't want to show his prediction to anyone else it's not bad. He is only a gambler, there are many players who believe in good luck bad luck, before entering the game they do all the things that proved to be lucky for them in the last few matches. I have also heard that many players sometimes start believing their particular shoes and bats to be lucky. So there is nothing surprising here, because I have seen this kind of behavior before.

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July 30, 2023, 05:42:39 PM
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Nothing is impossible, it might be true that some luck changer or destiny changer can use your own bet against you. I believe that it is also another way that bettor is using to tell the other guy a big NO. So that he doesn't see him like a bad person that don't want to share his game with him. I don't also like that idea too because it isn't good to rely on people's prediction before you stake your bet. What assuming that first bettor wasn't there wouldn't him predict his own results. Gambling is fun when you meet with some strange gamblers with their strange behaviors.

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July 30, 2023, 05:43:00 PM
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It can be right or wrong depending on each person who believes in that superstition. If they don't believe it, they will share their predictions with others and still wait for the results together. I once shared my prediction with my friend, but the result was lost, so we just accepted it. And sometimes, my friends also share their predictions with me, and sometimes the results are winning, but sometimes the results are also losing. But that doesn't matter to me because gambling is entertainment, so whatever the outcome, I will accept it.
because you already have the right understanding regarding gambling it won't be a problem. because betting will definitely have the possibility of winning and the possibility of losing.
maybe there are some gamblers who are still superstitious, it doesn't matter because they are actually also betting for a chance. it is not certain that these superstitions will actually give them victory. a fortune maybe while trusting something that was accidentally given to him for a bet and then wins.
I personally don't believe in superstitions.



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July 30, 2023, 05:45:24 PM
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So why this belief or do you think it could be true? Or is it one of those superstitious belief among gamblers?
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It is a superstition, crystal clear. What you've experienced is just a coincidence. You'll have a different perspective if you won that bet. Try it again, place bets, and let other people be aware of it. Let's see if you still lose the bet. If you still do, do it once again until you win.

The thing is, the outcome of your bet won't be affected by whether people knew it or not. It is solely dependent on the game and the players.

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July 30, 2023, 05:54:24 PM
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So why this belief or do you think it could be true? Or is it one of those superstitious belief among gamblers?
Do you feel cool sharing your predictions with other people and how has the outcome been looking at all the times you have shared your predictions with others?
i don't believe in superstition when we give gambling advice or predictions to other people, our chances of winning will decrease, but i won't share gambling predictions with other people because it's not useful at all, if that person wins then I will be hurt, but if they lose then i will be blamed on him. 

sharing predictions with other people is actually not kindness, that person may have already made another bet but he is curious about what predictions you have.  so instead of hurting you, don't mind people who ask you for gambling predictions, especially the lottery.
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July 30, 2023, 05:55:27 PM
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Everyone has things they think make them lose. It could be a person they think is a black cat, sharing their bets, or the sun was red that day. Gamblers aren't rationale basically. If they lose there must be a reason besides they played bad or made a bad bet.

People can believe that someone is a black cat, like you said, but does that mean that one can transfer their bad luck to you in a game that you have already predicted and staked? I don't think it works that way
Obviously it doesn't work that way, that's why I say some gamblers aren't really trying to think rationally. They want to believe there is a reason they lost a bet and they should never lose if it weren't for bad luck.

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Sharing the bet information will lead to a discussion as to why he chose which team. Maybe he just doesn't want to get to that point. But I wouldn't mind if I share my picks. I don't think there will be bad luck in sharing it. There is always going to be a winner and a loser, If I happen to lose then my pick is just not good enough.

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Hahaha, now that's a tale that would go down in betting folklore! I've seen a lot of superstition in my time, but this takes the cake. As if good fortune were a scarce commodity that needed to be guarded at all costs!

The young man you speak of appears to be immersed in a world of fantasy populated by irrational ideas and worries. Similar superstitions are held by those who wear lucky socks to interviews or who try to avoid passing beneath ladders.

I have made several forecasts and shared them with others. The kicker is that... I woke up to a new day with nothing out of the ordinary having happened. The outcome of a wager is entirely contingent on the accuracy of your forecasts, the circumstances of the game, and a pinch of luck. It has nothing to do with the amount of identical wagers. The odds of winning a bet do not behave like a slice of pie, where they decrease as more people acquire a piece.

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I am not really surprised maybe because in Italy there Is a lot of superstition around gambling and daily Life.
Well, for sure there Is nothing scientific (for what we know nowadays Grin )
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That is nonsense, mate. Some people are just so deliberately wicked and greedy that they don't want you to have their luck. I mean, they would not want a situation where if they win the game, you will also win it because of their help. Sometimes, too, some people are just so uneducated (like illiterates) that they end up living with some kind of superstitious belief. So, in either case, the man is probably affected by one thing, either illiteracy or greed. I have not heard of anything close to this; even in my area, you will see gamblers share gambling codes among themselves that another gambler has already predicted and staked.

I'd say this was superstition, not greed. He thought that showing his bet to another gambler will somehow jinx it, because the other guy betting on the same thing would not make him win less. I mean odds can be influenced by the amount of people betting on the same thing, but one or 2 people don't change anything. These statistics are measured in hundreds of bets, unless this was something small, like horse racing at a local track where every additional person winning can further split the prize, but I doubt they were betting on something like that.

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