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August 07, 2023, 05:42:00 PM
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That's sad man. I can imagine what you are going through now. Maybe you are blaming yourself for your cousin's current situation. But trust me. It was all his own doing. He went on betting without taking the necessary steps. He does not have control over his own actions. He became addicted because of his low control over himself and his emotions. You shared your knowledge, that's on your side. On his side, he can either use it in a good or bad way. Never blame yourself. If you want to help him thinking it will give you some peace, then you are more than welcome to do so. But if it's out of your control, then leave him be.
And it's human nature. As long as you are useful to someone, they will love you. The moment you turn your back on them, they will hate you. That's how this society works. Just ignore him.
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August 08, 2023, 07:46:11 AM
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It's delusional to even think that anytime you gamble, money is expected to double, gambling doesn't work that way. When you do, you will be left disappointed and the fun of it will turn to hate. As a gambler, any money you want to use to bet should be seen as a forgone, it should be that way even if you know in mind that something can be won at the end of the day and when the game comes as expected, that's fine and if it doesn't, that is also fine, that is the fun of gambling in the first place but situation where you expect return and it doesn't, you wouldn't even think about playing the next; I think in summary, Gambling is not an investment because is only in an investment you will expect money in returm.
Gambling will not be able to provide a multiplier for its money because it is a business that does not provide benefits to its users but to the casino owner. And if there are people who can double their money, it's just their luck and not many can get it. But as gamblers, many still try it because they often see people who manage to get big wins and feel curious and want to try it. This makes them keep returning and playing in other gambling games in the hope of getting that big win. But in the end, only a few people can get that big win. And if we don't want to lose a lot, we have to control ourselves because gambling is not a place to make money.

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August 08, 2023, 07:57:12 AM
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Gambling will not be able to provide a multiplier for its money because it is a business that does not provide benefits to its users but to the casino owner. And if there are people who can double their money, it's just their luck and not many can get it. But as gamblers, many still try it because they often see people who manage to get big wins and feel curious and want to try it. This makes them keep returning and playing in other gambling games in the hope of getting that big win. But in the end, only a few people can get that big win. And if we don't want to lose a lot, we have to control ourselves because gambling is not a place to make money.
Each gambler has the belief that luck is on their side in every game and bet, but in reality luck doesn't always come and it is this belief that makes gamblers keep trying and betting.
Having faith is a good thing because a person can be more enthusiastic and not give up, but if belief is used in a gamble, I don't think it's the right thing because gambling gives uncertain results, so whatever the gambler's efforts when they are unlucky in the end will only end lost.
Sometimes gamblers don't care about the losses and risks of gambling when they are sure what is at stake is the right thing, it's just that the awareness that gambling requires not only belief but also luck is often ignored by most gamblers.

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August 09, 2023, 01:24:47 AM
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This topic is very good, because on several occasions people may believe their predictions and what will happen , I think I have already told it, but I want to bring it to this thread because I think it is very interesting, where I live people look to do raffles, be it cars, other items of that style, so when the raffles are very famous things get good, because they choose 4-figure raffles, and that is quite difficult for you to win that raffle You have to be very lucky , however when they sell many tickets, I have witnessed the raffle owners talk and whisper among themselves to go to a person who smokes tobacco so that they can do a "job" for him so that the number does not fall among the people who bought the raffle, because if so they keep the prizes and continue to do more raffles with the same cars , motorcycles, etc.

I couldn't help but listen to this, because I found it very Funny the fact that People look for witches, shamans and that kind of help so that they interfere in a lottery, obviously when people here go to those places they faithfully believe in the person who gave them He takes large amounts of money for doing that, the most important thing is that after that, and the winning number comes out, one of the tickets that someone did buy does come out , so this type of belief is based on the faith that the person places in it, but it is not something infallible that is going to happen as such. I really do not know whether to classify that belief as nonsense or something like that , it is Preferable that you start doing probabilities and statistics that is much more credible and closer to Reality.

So, this raffle thing with shamans and all, yeah, that's something interesting; no doubt about it. Using "magic" to influence a draw is just something, right? People seem to be striving to make reality meet their desires, even if it's not genuine. The point? Things are done because people believe them.

Maybe it's preferable to believe numbers and stuff. Probabilities and math exist. If you understand, you can count on it but not touch it. I suppose people can believe in witches and things for raffles, but statistics are more reliable. Raffles, numbers, witches, and other things mix together, but it's good.





What I think is that there are always people in the world who believe in these things, in fact I know that bad things exist, because I have seen cases where people hurt others through these things, maybe bad energy , people who do not know how to handle some things, but these types of people are the ones who most believe that through witchcraft or commanding to do work with spirits or something like that, influence something like lotteries, chance, they are things I don't believe them, firstly because in the spiritual world what matters least is money, and then things like that, well, they shouldn't play because they can awaken bad things that become demons and things that harm the people around them. all.

Now, things when it comes to lotteries, raffles, chance, this is something that should be studied in another way, I have always said that things related to mathematics, logic, will always be associated with the best that can be done, a good analysis mathematical, statistical, sometimes even logical, but it requires a lot of study, because in every lottery there are many hours in which they are played, that is, I have seen lotteries that are played at various times in a single day, it is difficult to make statistics of the same lottery, the hours and the forecasts and statistics varied a lot and it is somewhat hard to make those calculations, if it were a single hour in the day it would be easier to predict, but since the same way is always used for all lotteries it is It's hard to do it, of course, that's what I thought, there must be many ways, through mathematical modeling, there must or can be a pattern that can be approached, although this random ingredient usually enters here, which can change anything at a given moment, Since there is nothing certain, even in the statistics books they say so, the probabilities also show it, it is difficult to do something like that or get close, there may be approximations, but the study for something exact does not exist.

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August 09, 2023, 03:49:20 AM
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Each gambler has the belief that luck is on their side in every game and bet, but in reality luck doesn't always come and it is this belief that makes gamblers keep trying and betting.
Having faith is a good thing because a person can be more enthusiastic and not give up, but if belief is used in a gamble, I don't think it's the right thing because gambling gives uncertain results, so whatever the gambler's efforts when they are unlucky in the end will only end lost.
Sometimes gamblers don't care about the losses and risks of gambling when they are sure what is at stake is the right thing, it's just that the awareness that gambling requires not only belief but also luck is often ignored by most gamblers.
That is a false belief as well that not only people have when they gamble but they hold it as well in almost any activity they perform, to this day it still surprises me that many people live their lives as if things are always going to go their way regardless of what they do, so it is obvious those people are assuming that luck will always be on their side, and this is simply not true and it is because of this we need to have all kinds of provisions in the case things do not turn as we want them and we have to overcome all kind of obstacles on our path.
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August 09, 2023, 04:48:01 AM
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Each gambler has the belief that luck is on their side in every game and bet, but in reality luck doesn't always come and it is this belief that makes gamblers keep trying and betting.
Having faith is a good thing because a person can be more enthusiastic and not give up, but if belief is used in a gamble, I don't think it's the right thing because gambling gives uncertain results, so whatever the gambler's efforts when they are unlucky in the end will only end lost.
Sometimes gamblers don't care about the losses and risks of gambling when they are sure what is at stake is the right thing, it's just that the awareness that gambling requires not only belief but also luck is often ignored by most gamblers.
Believing that luck is with them is okay as long as they also have to know that luck won't always be with them, so they only play gambling for fun and do not chase the win. But if they get too excited and don't give up, just thinking that luck is with them, they will only suffer loss and the loss will only get bigger when they lose control of themselves. But that's what happens to many gamblers so it's like a strange belief that gamblers have that they can't see the reality. If gamblers realize that what they believe in gambling will not always come true, they will always be careful when playing gambling and not recklessly use their money. It is better for them to play it safe than to lose much money to gamble.

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August 09, 2023, 06:42:52 AM
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Gambling will not be able to provide a multiplier for its money because it is a business that does not provide benefits to its users but to the casino owner. And if there are people who can double their money, it's just their luck and not many can get it. But as gamblers, many still try it because they often see people who manage to get big wins and feel curious and want to try it. This makes them keep returning and playing in other gambling games in the hope of getting that big win. But in the end, only a few people can get that big win. And if we don't want to lose a lot, we have to control ourselves because gambling is not a place to make money.
Each gambler has the belief that luck is on their side in every game and bet, but in reality luck doesn't always come and it is this belief that makes gamblers keep trying and betting.
Having faith is a good thing because a person can be more enthusiastic and not give up, but if belief is used in a gamble, I don't think it's the right thing because gambling gives uncertain results, so whatever the gambler's

Beliefs, antics, and things like that does not really attract luck. I just don't believe in that, but I don't deny that I've been doing it before more often than now as I just realized that It has zero effect on your bets. However, it would somehow make you calm and composed all throughout the gambling process and that help you get rid of reckless betting when you're upset and frustrated. These beliefs are similar to one the religious people that believed in their Gods, where in times of troubles they will just look up and pray, do their antics and that keep them calm to avoid breakdown. Though beliefs and antics don't magically work, but will definitely help you mentally and emotionally stable while gambling.
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August 10, 2023, 09:24:04 AM
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what is certain is that when sharing your predictions with friends or other people, always give the words that there is always a risk in every bet, and this is not management advice. but for myself its better to be an introverted bettor than having to share predictions because for me its very risky for myself.
because I've seen someone share their predictions and show the amount at bet and when a big win the news spreads to all people and these people come to ask for parts or ask for accurate predictions on sports betting and that I imagine how tormented he is when many people come to share his predictions.
Sometimes when I share my predictions with friends, I always say that these predictions are just predictions. No one knows whether this prediction can win or lose and so far, they have known about it and can accept it. It's true that the results don't win often so they feel that it's just a prediction and if they don't want to follow it and just want to know my prediction, that's fine too and I'll still give it to them. But many of my friends have managed to win from the results of their predictions but I don't know how they predicted like that.
It's basically nothing more than superstition to think that you lose your bets if you share them with others, you should have enough confidence in your research and analysis and know that even if you share it with someone or not, you are going to win, and if you lose even after doing a lot of research and analysis, it simply means that you were unlucky and it wasn't only because you have shared the bet with someone else and they were unlucky and made you lose as well.

So someone who has a mindset like this should basically keep their bets to themselves and shouldn't share them, and then they should see if they keep winning or not. Your wins and losses are totally dependent on your luck and the knowledge and experience that you have about a particular sport.

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August 12, 2023, 06:32:34 PM
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Every gambler has their own belief at times. Others may find it strange, but it is not for them. What that guy did is comparable to what I've heard about psychology: don't tell people about your plan since the more you tell others about it, the less likely it is to happen. That individual might be thinking that if anyone sees his bet, it would put a jinx on him. That sort of thing. Gamblers are also superstitious because gambling is always, if not most of the time, based on luck.
If you are engaged in an activity that requires luck for being successful, it doesn't provide you an excuse to be superstitious. I mean, you can be, it's your right, no one should be judging you for what you believe, but being superstitious can become problematic, and it surely never helps. Don't do that to yourself.
Even if the activity requires luck, some of us are still superstitious. For example, when we watch a sport game, we can see that a player prays first or do other things/gestures. Some of it may not be familiar to us but they do that because they think it helps them to win and reach their current position.

If being superstitious can cause us to be problematic then we won't do that again or we will move on to other superstitious belief that has less draw backs. Being problematic can mean that we will be disappointed because we don't win but even without a superstitious belief, losing is still possible and we still can get disappointed. If we can't handle it then it's better to just stop doing the activity.

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August 12, 2023, 07:27:54 PM
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I think we need to ask ourselves what does it really mean to be superstitious? As per the actual definition, being superstitious means "believing in and acting upon supernatural or irrational beliefs, often without any empirical evidence or logical reasoning". Therefore, based on this, we can conclude that all of us who gamble and "believe" in luck are somewhat superstitious. We decide to gamble, hoping that we will be lucky and win, even though we know very well that this is illogical thinking and that the odds are not in our favor. How else to explain it if it is not superstition?  Cheesy

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August 12, 2023, 08:55:27 PM
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what is certain is that when sharing your predictions with friends or other people, always give the words that there is always a risk in every bet, and this is not management advice. but for myself its better to be an introverted bettor than having to share predictions because for me its very risky for myself.
because I've seen someone share their predictions and show the amount at bet and when a big win the news spreads to all people and these people come to ask for parts or ask for accurate predictions on sports betting and that I imagine how tormented he is when many people come to share his predictions.
Sometimes when I share my predictions with friends, I always say that these predictions are just predictions. No one knows whether this prediction can win or lose and so far, they have known about it and can accept it. It's true that the results don't win often so they feel that it's just a prediction and if they don't want to follow it and just want to know my prediction, that's fine too and I'll still give it to them. But many of my friends have managed to win from the results of their predictions but I don't know how they predicted like that.
It's basically nothing more than superstition to think that you lose your bets if you share them with others, you should have enough confidence in your research and analysis and know that even if you share it with someone or not, you are going to win, and if you lose even after doing a lot of research and analysis, it simply means that you were unlucky and it wasn't only because you have shared the bet with someone else and they were unlucky and made you lose as well.

So someone who has a mindset like this should basically keep their bets to themselves and shouldn't share them, and then they should see if they keep winning or not. Your wins and losses are totally dependent on your luck and the knowledge and experience that you have about a particular sport.
Totally superstitious and there's no such thing about having that kind of disruption of your winning on the time that you would be able to share it up with others whether intentionally or via accident and basing up on the situation on which OP had mentioned or been told then it is really just that too over reactive for someone who dont tend to share out about his bets into other people or simply copying it just because they do really believe on such thing which its not really that true or right after all.We do know that gambling is really talking about chances and odds on a random manner and no matter how well you do make out analysis on certain bets or sports which it doesnt really ensure that you would really be winning whether you would be sharing it or would really be taking on your own.

Well, its our own business and its our own full rights on what are the things that we do believe and what we dont.There are really just that those people who are really that being too mindful or in concern on things which they do really believe.This is why it might look out that absurd but it would be just that better if we do leave and respect on what are the things that they do believe or having in mind. As long they arent really that affecting people around or do make out some acts which arent that good then it should be fine. We do have own approaches and insights in everything and lets just respect on what it is so that we would be able to avoid
some conflicts and chaos in between.
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August 12, 2023, 09:03:54 PM
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Gambling will not be able to provide a multiplier for its money because it is a business that does not provide benefits to its users but to the casino owner. And if there are people who can double their money, it's just their luck and not many can get it. But as gamblers, many still try it because they often see people who manage to get big wins and feel curious and want to try it. This makes them keep returning and playing in other gambling games in the hope of getting that big win. But in the end, only a few people can get that big win. And if we don't want to lose a lot, we have to control ourselves because gambling is not a place to make money.
Each gambler has the belief that luck is on their side in every game and bet, but in reality luck doesn't always come and it is this belief that makes gamblers keep trying and betting.
Having faith is a good thing because a person can be more enthusiastic and not give up, but if belief is used in a gamble, I don't think it's the right thing because gambling gives uncertain results, so whatever the gambler's efforts when they are unlucky in the end will only end lost.
Sometimes gamblers don't care about the losses and risks of gambling when they are sure what is at stake is the right thing, it's just that the awareness that gambling requires not only belief but also luck is often ignored by most gamblers.
Having the believe that their prediction is actually going to be correct is what almost keeps every gambler playing and no one actually feels that they might enquire a loss in their prediction but the sad truth is that loses is a must and every one who gambles must be prepared and ready for this because loses must come and we must treat it with care so that we don't end up having too much believe that winning is a must and in all making you chase over your losesm

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Maybe it was a parimutuel pool, so the guy didn't want people to bet on the same outcomes as him to avoid lowering final odds. People often do this kind of thing for horse racing because they are usually using parimutuel system, so they are often reluctant to share their conviction.

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One of the weirdest beliefs among gamblers to me is the fact that most of them think that the harder they stake bets the more chances of winning which I think doesn't work that way.
Another belief that I find too weird is the fact that some of them predicts the result of games and still possess the confidence that the result is gonna match their prediction

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August 12, 2023, 10:04:54 PM
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One of the weirdest beliefs among gamblers to me is the fact that most of them think that the harder they stake bets the more chances of winning which I think doesn't work that way.
Another belief that I find too weird is the fact that some of them predicts the result of games and still possess the confidence that the result is gonna match their prediction
If you think that's weird then try this out, most gamblers believe in the backward theory meaning that after Staking or placing a bet they start thinking negatively towards the game with the hope and logic thats backwards psychology will help their prediction to be accurate and this believe comes after when the gambler must have experienced lots of losses from actually having positive taught of his game from the onset of things.

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August 13, 2023, 12:32:55 AM
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lol I don't really understand how you found this hard to believe. People are fucking weird, and they do all sorts of odd things, and being superstitious about their gambling habits is really far from one of the more outrageous things that people tend to do.

Personally for me, I would be annoyed at some random person asking about my bets. It really isn't anyone's business, so just out of privacy concerns I'd probably tell them to buzz off too. 

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August 13, 2023, 10:00:47 AM
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It's basically nothing more than superstition to think that you lose your bets if you share them with others, you should have enough confidence in your research and analysis and know that even if you share it with someone or not, you are going to win, and if you lose even after doing a lot of research and analysis, it simply means that you were unlucky and it wasn't only because you have shared the bet with someone else and they were unlucky and made you lose as well.

So someone who has a mindset like this should basically keep their bets to themselves and shouldn't share them, and then they should see if they keep winning or not. Your wins and losses are totally dependent on your luck and the knowledge and experience that you have about a particular sport.
Maybe it is superstition or it can also be true because some people are still superstitious in gambling and we cannot force them to change it. In conducting research and analysis, we can only find out which team can win without knowing the truth because the reality will only happen after they have played. And regardless of whether we want to share that prediction with others or keep it for us, it depends on each person.

Want to keep it for yourself or share it, that's not a problem because other people certainly don't bother to keep asking you about it. And if you really don't want to share it with them, they will leave you and try to ask other friends. And our win or loss indeed depends on the results of our analysis and luck.

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August 13, 2023, 03:22:24 PM
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It's delusional to even think that anytime you gamble, money is expected to double, gambling doesn't work that way. When you do, you will be left disappointed and the fun of it will turn to hate. As a gambler, any money you want to use to bet should be seen as a forgone, it should be that way even if you know in mind that something can be won at the end of the day and when the game comes as expected, that's fine and if it doesn't, that is also fine, that is the fun of gambling in the first place but situation where you expect return and it doesn't, you wouldn't even think about playing the next; I think in summary, Gambling is not an investment because is only in an investment you will expect money in returm.
Gambling will not be able to provide a multiplier for its money because it is a business that does not provide benefits to its users but to the casino owner. And if there are people who can double their money, it's just their luck and not many can get it. But as gamblers, many still try it because they often see people who manage to get big wins and feel curious and want to try it. This makes them keep returning and playing in other gambling games in the hope of getting that big win. But in the end, only a few people can get that big win. And if we don't want to lose a lot, we have to control ourselves because gambling is not a place to make money.
Bro, I totally agree with your post that gambling is not about making money - it's about fun and challenge. However, I have some tips for you on how to really profit and win at gambling if you want.

To increase your chances of winning bets in gambling, it is important to focus on improving your playing skills instead of relying solely on luck. Plus, it is very important to avoid reckless gambling and instead create opportunities for yourself to come out on top in every game.

Gambling scammers often find success, but only if they have the finesse to disguise their tactics. so cheating can make you profitable in gambling. However, if you are caught, you will be exiled by your opponents and forbid you from returning to the casino. Your sneaky skills need to be top notch to avoid such an outcome.

You have to be cunning if you want to profit from gambling. It is important not only to rely on your skills, but also to constantly look for vulnerabilities to exploit in the system. Every method has its drawbacks, no matter how perfect they may seem.

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August 13, 2023, 05:19:41 PM
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It's basically nothing more than superstition to think that you lose your bets if you share them with others, you should have enough confidence in your research and analysis and know that even if you share it with someone or not, you are going to win, and if you lose even after doing a lot of research and analysis, it simply means that you were unlucky and it wasn't only because you have shared the bet with someone else and they were unlucky and made you lose as well.

So someone who has a mindset like this should basically keep their bets to themselves and shouldn't share them, and then they should see if they keep winning or not. Your wins and losses are totally dependent on your luck and the knowledge and experience that you have about a particular sport.
Maybe it is superstition or it can also be true because some people are still superstitious in gambling and we cannot force them to change it. In conducting research and analysis, we can only find out which team can win without knowing the truth because the reality will only happen after they have played. And regardless of whether we want to share that prediction with others or keep it for us, it depends on each person.

Want to keep it for yourself or share it, that's not a problem because other people certainly don't bother to keep asking you about it. And if you really don't want to share it with them, they will leave you and try to ask other friends. And our win or loss indeed depends on the results of our analysis and luck.

Sharing them with others may be a disadvantage when you are playing with people in makeshift casino, this is where the hustlers are who are organized to cheat in cahoots with the people watching from around the poker table.

Most of the superstitions are from the guys coming from countries with shaman culture. People from Africa or from mysterious Asia do have some lucky charms like jade stones or simply a bracelet given by their nana.

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August 13, 2023, 07:35:15 PM
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Every gambler has their own belief at times. Others may find it strange, but it is not for them. What that guy did is comparable to what I've heard about psychology: don't tell people about your plan since the more you tell others about it, the less likely it is to happen. That individual might be thinking that if anyone sees his bet, it would put a jinx on him. That sort of thing. Gamblers are also superstitious because gambling is always, if not most of the time, based on luck.
If you are engaged in an activity that requires luck for being successful, it doesn't provide you an excuse to be superstitious. I mean, you can be, it's your right, no one should be judging you for what you believe, but being superstitious can become problematic, and it surely never helps. Don't do that to yourself.
Even if the activity requires luck, some of us are still superstitious. For example, when we watch a sport game, we can see that a player prays first or do other things/gestures. Some of it may not be familiar to us but they do that because they think it helps them to win and reach their current position.
This type of image is often seen in many sports where a player prays to his lord so that he can win. I wouldn't call it superstition. Because everyone knows that if creator is kind to someone then he can fulfill his dreams. Since praying to God for anything is a personal matter. I never look down on such faith. But beyond this, many people go through various superstitions to win in gambling. I think those superstitions have no basis.

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