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August 15, 2023, 06:54:55 PM
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That is not new anymore to me mate. A lot of gamblers I know are greedy and even selfish that even their bets are carefully kept and never shared because just like what you said, the luck will gone out if it’s been disclosed to a lot of bettors. That’s the reason why most of these gamblers are secretly losing too and only announce their bets if ever they won, but most of the time, losing is inevitable.

I believe gambling is very unpredictable. That’s why I don’t believe any of this superstition. If you lose, it’s possible that you don’t hit the winning bet, not only because that you don’t have the luck that time.

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August 15, 2023, 08:37:15 PM
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That is not new anymore to me mate. A lot of gamblers I know are greedy and even selfish that even their bets are carefully kept and never shared because just like what you said, the luck will gone out if it’s been disclosed to a lot of bettors. That’s the reason why most of these gamblers are secretly losing too and only announce their bets if ever they won, but most of the time, losing is inevitable.

I believe gambling is very unpredictable. That’s why I don’t believe any of this superstition. If you lose, it’s possible that you don’t hit the winning bet, not only because that you don’t have the luck that time.
Gambling is unpredictably rewarding, with both earnings and losses. Luck is another thing that fueled up our profits process, with luck achieving enormous earnings is guaranteed. Running out of luck suggests that massive losses are on the path. We gamble and make good money, but when the losses arrive, we scowl. Gamblers developed certain bad characteristics that would cause them not to bet, but some are constantly eager and impatient to push the gambling button, believing that they will have a great aspiration of gaining, which will result in losses at the end of the day.

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August 15, 2023, 08:43:34 PM
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That is not new anymore to me mate. A lot of gamblers I know are greedy and even selfish that even their bets are carefully kept and never shared because just like what you said, the luck will gone out if it’s been disclosed to a lot of bettors. That’s the reason why most of these gamblers are secretly losing too and only announce their bets if ever they won, but most of the time, losing is inevitable.

I believe gambling is very unpredictable. That’s why I don’t believe any of this superstition. If you lose, it’s possible that you don’t hit the winning bet, not only because that you don’t have the luck that time.

Many are the gamblers will not share the real bet to their friends and selfish for getting the money from gambling.Only few are the legit people with unique all together opinion and share some ideology to their friends.They are like the win together type gambler.Gambler should work like a team and help at the bad situation of others.Some people think,their luck will move to other on sharing some ideas.But it's not the true one,it's like the convective ideology from some old ideology gamblers.Some people with some experience will not share the loss to his less experienced gambler because they see this like a shame to them.

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August 15, 2023, 09:35:48 PM
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In all my years of gambling I believe that a game prediction that will play as predicted will definitely play not regarding the number of people that bet on same prediction. So why this belief or do you think it could be true? Or is it one of those superstitious belief among gamblers?
Indeed. The result of the game won't be determined by the number of people who bet with the same prediction. It is quite funny that there are people who think in that way, I never have friends that refuse others to have the same prediction. But we always remind the people who want to follow the same prediction that don't blame us if the prediction will go wrong.  Cheesy

Sure, it is just superstitious belief, it has nothing to do with the result of the game.

I believe gambling is very unpredictable. That’s why I don’t believe any of this superstition. If you lose, it’s possible that you don’t hit the winning bet, not only because that you don’t have the luck that time.
Agree. Gambling is always unpredictable, no exact way to determine the result. That's why we can it as luck-based game. Although there are skilled-based games, but we can't deny that the luck will also have a role in that games. Moreover, it is betting, we all know that the luck is the most factor to determine the result.


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August 15, 2023, 10:36:11 PM
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lol I don't really understand how you found this hard to believe. People are fucking weird, and they do all sorts of odd things, and being superstitious about their gambling habits is really far from one of the more outrageous things that people tend to do.

Personally for me, I would be annoyed at some random person asking about my bets. It really isn't anyone's business, so just out of privacy concerns I'd probably tell them to buzz off too. 

With how outrageous people can be, being superstitious in gambling is the least thing I'll ever worry about. There are people offering literally all sorts of weird and crazy things to whatever god they worship to just to win something. With that said, I still wouldn't let other people see my bets. I don't want to be on the receiving end of blame if they even copied my bets.

Referring to the title of this thread, the problem of belief is a phenomenon that is familiar to me personally. In Asia, there are various cultures and beliefs that are adhered to. no exception, when involved with gambling. I personally, have no problem with beliefs that are called strange by some gamblers who think more intelligently and modernly.
But believe me, even we will never understand something that someone does with his gambling that involves strange beliefs in gambling. but certainly, they exist and as long as it becomes a principle for them, or is part of the culture. everything is legal, even they have the right to express what they believe  like what we do, which puts forward something that is more realistic and logical. but in fact, those who believe in superstition have never opposed the modern style of gambling.

As I said at the beginning, in Asia there are many cultures that some people believe can be involved with gambling, especially regarding the lottery. they will try some methods, tricks, methods, which involve the beliefs we call superstitions. but anyway, it all depends on how we interpret it. if we don't believe it, just let them do as they want to do. most importantly, no one is disturbed and harmed. I personally am more realistic, especially when talking about football betting. research and analysis, is a part that I believe in when it comes to betting.

Even in today's time, we see it in boxing matches where they wear necklaces. For some, it may be weird but for them, it's not weird they just respect what others are doing. Pacquiao for example wears the Christian rosary beads in his early career after some time he had that necklace with a cross to which he also bow down in the corner before fighting. The Mexicans also do this afaik.

Khabib the MMA champ has a fur hat for a lucky charm and it seems very lucky, he retired without loss.

Yes, we've seen those things but most of the time it is really just been neglected or ignored out but we do know that those things does have that kind of significant meaning for them on which they would really be that believing that it is something that would really be their lucky charm on winning up a fight. Lets not make out some those negative insights and comments on what other people been believing whether it would really be that something realistic or not but its their choice and something that they would really be believing on. It is really just normal that people would be having that kind of consideration specially if they have noticed up something like on the time that they do fight or on the time that they do deal up with something which would really be needing up whether a loss or a win. Gamblers behavior does have that kind of never ending kind of approach on things on which they would really be that believing into something that they do look for it to be that relevant.

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August 15, 2023, 11:10:20 PM
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So why this belief or do you think it could be true? Or is it one of those superstitious belief among gamblers?

I don't believe in that, but I respect those who believe in them.
The result of the game is usually based only, or most of the time, on chance (luck or bad luck)... so, realize that there is a very large "space" for people to believe that there is something supernatural/mystical that can influence this result.

For those who believe, it's very difficult to explain this to other people... And for those who don't, could you prove that in fact there isn't something beyond what we can see influencing the outcome of the game? That's why I respect anyone who believes that.

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August 16, 2023, 03:18:02 AM
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That is not new anymore to me mate. A lot of gamblers I know are greedy and even selfish that even their bets are carefully kept and never shared because just like what you said, the luck will gone out if it’s been disclosed to a lot of bettors. That’s the reason why most of these gamblers are secretly losing too and only announce their bets if ever they won, but most of the time, losing is inevitable.

I believe gambling is very unpredictable. That’s why I don’t believe any of this superstition. If you lose, it’s possible that you don’t hit the winning bet, not only because that you don’t have the luck that time.

Many are the gamblers will not share the real bet to their friends and selfish for getting the money from gambling.Only few are the legit people with unique all together opinion and share some ideology to their friends.They are like the win together type gambler.Gambler should work like a team and help at the bad situation of others.Some people think,their luck will move to other on sharing some ideas.But it's not the true one,it's like the convective ideology from some old ideology gamblers.Some people with some experience will not share the loss to his less experienced gambler because they see this like a shame to them.

That is if he or she is surrounded by some people whom his friends that are also gambling like him, but if it's the opposite? Where his friends doesn't gamble that much or don't even gamble then sharing it will just be a waste of time because they don't even like gambling or they don't know that you're gambling because they doesn't have to know as well, I mean it's no secret but for me I don't really share my gambling activities. Sharing something like an ideology or techniques is only applicable if you have some friends who does the same thing with you and of course, it's much more enjoyable if you win together and know that bets doesn't have any certainties therefore there will be no blaming afterwards.

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August 16, 2023, 04:03:12 AM
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So why this belief or do you think it could be true? Or is it one of those superstitious belief among gamblers?
Do you feel cool sharing your predictions with other people and how has the outcome been looking at all the times you have shared your predictions with others?
I think many gamblers have belief in certain things, and in my opinion it's just a suggestion to believe that when you do something it will ruin the bet or vice versa. There are many beliefs that are even more strange, such as believing that you will win if you bet with a certain coin, you will win if you only make a deposit according to what you believe, if it is more or less then you will lose, and there are definitely things that are even weirder.
Haven't we ever read news about lottery winners who always put the same number three times and win it three times also? I think that also includes the belief that only those numbers will be able to give him a win. Source
I occasionally share my predictions, and I don't think it affects anything like making me win or vice versa because it's just a myth, and I am not a person who believes in such things.

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That is not new anymore to me mate. A lot of gamblers I know are greedy and even selfish that even their bets are carefully kept and never shared because just like what you said, the luck will gone out if it’s been disclosed to a lot of bettors. That’s the reason why most of these gamblers are secretly losing too and only announce their bets if ever they won, but most of the time, losing is inevitable.

I believe gambling is very unpredictable. That’s why I don’t believe any of this superstition. If you lose, it’s possible that you don’t hit the winning bet, not only because that you don’t have the luck that time.

Many are the gamblers will not share the real bet to their friends and selfish for getting the money from gambling.Only few are the legit people with unique all together opinion and share some ideology to their friends.They are like the win together type gambler.Gambler should work like a team and help at the bad situation of others.Some people think,their luck will move to other on sharing some ideas.But it's not the true one,it's like the convective ideology from some old ideology gamblers.Some people with some experience will not share the loss to his less experienced gambler because they see this like a shame to them.

That is if he or she is surrounded by some people whom his friends that are also gambling like him, but if it's the opposite? Where his friends doesn't gamble that much or don't even gamble then sharing it will just be a waste of time because they don't even like gambling or they don't know that you're gambling because they doesn't have to know as well, I mean it's no secret but for me I don't really share my gambling activities. Sharing something like an ideology or techniques is only applicable if you have some friends who does the same thing with you and of course, it's much more enjoyable if you win together and know that bets doesn't have any certainties therefore there will be no blaming afterwards.

You are right; it is like telling a kid that you are gambling and this is your strategy, which they can't understand. Mostly in your friends, it is good to share good things that gambling happened to you, like saying you've won this amount of money and somewhat use it to buy stuff. Just a little info to share to continue the fun that your friends are having, but don't dive into more details on it because either they can't relate or they will be critiquing you because of your activities.
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That is not new anymore to me mate. A lot of gamblers I know are greedy and even selfish that even their bets are carefully kept and never shared because just like what you said, the luck will gone out if it’s been disclosed to a lot of bettors. That’s the reason why most of these gamblers are secretly losing too and only announce their bets if ever they won, but most of the time, losing is inevitable.

I believe gambling is very unpredictable. That’s why I don’t believe any of this superstition. If you lose, it’s possible that you don’t hit the winning bet, not only because that you don’t have the luck that time.

Many are the gamblers will not share the real bet to their friends and selfish for getting the money from gambling.Only few are the legit people with unique all together opinion and share some ideology to their friends.They are like the win together type gambler.Gambler should work like a team and help at the bad situation of others.Some people think,their luck will move to other on sharing some ideas.But it's not the true one,it's like the convective ideology from some old ideology gamblers.Some people with some experience will not share the loss to his less experienced gambler because they see this like a shame to them.

That is if he or she is surrounded by some people whom his friends that are also gambling like him, but if it's the opposite? Where his friends doesn't gamble that much or don't even gamble then sharing it will just be a waste of time because they don't even like gambling or they don't know that you're gambling because they doesn't have to know as well, I mean it's no secret but for me I don't really share my gambling activities. Sharing something like an ideology or techniques is only applicable if you have some friends who does the same thing with you and of course, it's much more enjoyable if you win together and know that bets doesn't have any certainties therefore there will be no blaming afterwards.

You are right; it is like telling a kid that you are gambling and this is your strategy, which they can't understand. Mostly in your friends, it is good to share good things that gambling happened to you, like saying you've won this amount of money and somewhat use it to buy stuff. Just a little info to share to continue the fun that your friends are having, but don't dive into more details on it because either they can't relate or they will be critiquing you because of your activities.
but what OP trying to ask is about that belief of taking it to nothing in which for me is stupid because if you are going to win no matter what number combination is that ? you will still win depend on how Luck will gives you.
i find it stupid for those people that still has belief in gambling but until now a loser and never gain best for how many years even.









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Yes.. this is where we need to distinguish between the types of games in gambling, which are luck-based gambling games and which are gambling games that require the use of skills and knowledge. Don't let us spend time analyzing the game and deepen our abilities even though the game is based on luck and vice versa we carelessly make bets even though the gambling game must be analyzed first to get the win.
Yes, that's why we have to find a gambling game that suits us because the advice given by other people might not suit us. And by looking for gambling games, we can know the types of gambling games we are looking for so we only play gambling in the games we like. This will also allow us to find out how much luck we have in playing gambling. And if it is a skill-based gambling game that matches our skills, our chances of winning will probably be greater than if we play a luck-based gambling game.

Everyone wants to play fair but over time when they lose too many times there are several possibilities that will happen; First, they evaluate and improve the quality of play. Second, they decide to leave gambling because they think all of this is futile and provides absolutely no benefits. Third, it can make them fraudulent players so they can benefit from gambling.
For the first time, they will keep playing but may not evaluate and improve. As for the second scenario, maybe they really left gambling forever because it didn't give them good results because they couldn't win. And third, there may be people who cheat to profit from gambling. And for the third time, they will be caught by the casino and get punished by the casino.

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August 16, 2023, 05:29:48 AM
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That is not new anymore to me mate. A lot of gamblers I know are greedy and even selfish that even their bets are carefully kept and never shared because just like what you said, the luck will gone out if it’s been disclosed to a lot of bettors. That’s the reason why most of these gamblers are secretly losing too and only announce their bets if ever they won, but most of the time, losing is inevitable.

I believe gambling is very unpredictable. That’s why I don’t believe any of this superstition. If you lose, it’s possible that you don’t hit the winning bet, not only because that you don’t have the luck that time.

I believe it, friend, what you said is really happening at this time, they are enjoying what they play in gambling, even though they continue to experience defeat when gambling, but I was very surprised and got statements from several sources related to gambling, regarding settings that have been set by gambling sites around the world whether online or offline and later the player will be given a win in playing only once and will be given continuous defeat without the players realizing it, whether it's true or not I got this information from some outside media, at least we can avoid sites like that even though there will always be defeats in gambling, it's true what you conveyed in this discussion and everyone has their own portion and only plays for what's appropriate.

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When you share you bet and it gets copied by other gamblers and it up been wrong, you'll be blamed and some gamblers don't want to be blamed that's why they don't like sharing their bets and not because of any superstition but they're using that to cover up the main reason.

Some gamblers are always too quick to put the blame on others and not ready to take the responsibility of their losses and when you share your bet just give them the opportunity they needed to have someone to blame when they lose, it's always better to avoid this situations.

They can blame you all they want, but it's their own fault and no one else's that they lost heir bet. You can share about your working out and someone can follow you and break their leg in the gym. So, who's to blame? Or should we stop sharing our experiences only because some unfortunate people might hurt themselves following us? I don't think so.

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When you share you bet and it gets copied by other gamblers and it up been wrong, you'll be blamed and some gamblers don't want to be blamed that's why they don't like sharing their bets and not because of any superstition but they're using that to cover up the main reason.

Some gamblers are always too quick to put the blame on others and not ready to take the responsibility of their losses and when you share your bet just give them the opportunity they needed to have someone to blame when they lose, it's always better to avoid this situations.

They can blame you all they want, but it's their own fault and no one else's that they lost heir bet. You can share about your working out and someone can follow you and break their leg in the gym. So, who's to blame? Or should we stop sharing our experiences only because some unfortunate people might hurt themselves following us? I don't think so.

I beg to differ as gamblers are basically addicts who have a tendency to lie. In regards to their downfall as an addict they would find another lie to reason their downfall. I have been comparing gambling addicts with alcohol addicts ans you would find the same behaviour. To an extent that these two addiction are more so similar with their addiction habit. They both hide their addiction, they hide themselves when they are satisfying their addiction. The steal money and they would kill anyone to satisfy themselves. Getting addicted is so bad that they even destroy their families reputation and the bond that holds the family together.
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Gambling becomes addictive when its use becomes compulsive and out of control, because the brain system has been exposed to stimulating gambling. in my neighborhood a lot of people are already addicted to gambling, which has led to the superstition of placing high hopes on slots or gambling. and it is very difficult to awaken people who are addicted to gambling to the point that they have lost great wealth to the point where they have nothing. although I am a gambler not as bad as things that are self-defeating

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I beg to differ as gamblers are basically addicts who have a tendency to lie. In regards to their downfall as an addict they would find another lie to reason their downfall. I have been comparing gambling addicts with alcohol addicts ans you would find the same behaviour. To an extent that these two addiction are more so similar with their addiction habit. They both hide their addiction, they hide themselves when they are satisfying their addiction. The steal money and they would kill anyone to satisfy themselves. Getting addicted is so bad that they even destroy their families reputation and the bond that holds the family together.

This is the dark and worst side of being a gambling addict. It's hard to acknowledge these, but it's the truth. Most often, those who are addicted to their vices do the vilest things just to satisfy and fulfill their desire. Moral compass is no longer on the table for them the moment they want to achieve something. It's harsh, but it's the reality. When these people no longer prioritize their needs and no longer cares about their surroundings, things will get chaotic even more for them and for the people around them.

Hence, medical intervention is needed in order to combat gambling addiction. If there would be no proper move to resolve it, it will just worsen and God knows what will happen next. Self-destruction is one thing, and perhaps they can go low as you mentioned like destroying their loved ones lives or doing illegal stuff just to be able to gamble.
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August 21, 2023, 02:16:23 PM
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Gambling becomes addictive when its use becomes compulsive and out of control, because the brain system has been exposed to stimulating gambling. in my neighborhood a lot of people are already addicted to gambling, which has led to the superstition of placing high hopes on slots or gambling. and it is very difficult to awaken people who are addicted to gambling to the point that they have lost great wealth to the point where they have nothing. although I am a gambler not as bad as things that are self-defeating

Even very serious people are subject to superstition. These are not necessarily gamblers. For some reason, we all want to believe in higher forces that control everything around us, and we are only insignificant and small. That's why we enter into all sorts of rituals, as the author of the topic described, for example. There are many Serbian professions where people are also subject to superstitions, for example, my friend the train driver does not play at the casino, but he is very superstitious and he has certain rituals. I think every person will never refuse to believe that he can influence his fate. That's why when the dice roll on the chair, even atheists will pray.

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August 21, 2023, 02:52:55 PM
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Gambling becomes addictive when its use becomes compulsive and out of control, because the brain system has been exposed to stimulating gambling. in my neighborhood a lot of people are already addicted to gambling, which has led to the superstition of placing high hopes on slots or gambling. and it is very difficult to awaken people who are addicted to gambling to the point that they have lost great wealth to the point where they have nothing. although I am a gambler not as bad as things that are self-defeating

Even very serious people are subject to superstition. These are not necessarily gamblers. For some reason, we all want to believe in higher forces that control everything around us, and we are only insignificant and small. That's why we enter into all sorts of rituals, as the author of the topic described, for example. There are many Serbian professions where people are also subject to superstitions, for example, my friend the train driver does not play at the casino, but he is very superstitious and he has certain rituals. I think every person will never refuse to believe that he can influence his fate. That's why when the dice roll on the chair, even atheists will pray.

You reminded me a great joke which is from a country near Serbia in the Balkans,in there they say when the plane is crashing down even atheists will become avid believers and that shows how small we are compared to the world we live in.In this context everyone has their own superstitions but in gambling and among gamblers we will see a lot of them,we even see in F1 the drivers kissing their car for good luck so all sort of superstitions in all kind of different people.I think this is not beneficial though,we should know that we control our fate when we don't roll the dice or go to the casino as this way we avoid losing money as a sure thing compared to rituals of superstition that supposedly can help us win money.

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When you share you bet and it gets copied by other gamblers and it up been wrong, you'll be blamed and some gamblers don't want to be blamed that's why they don't like sharing their bets and not because of any superstition but they're using that to cover up the main reason.

Some gamblers are always too quick to put the blame on others and not ready to take the responsibility of their losses and when you share your bet just give them the opportunity they needed to have someone to blame when they lose, it's always better to avoid this situations.

They can blame you all they want, but it's their own fault and no one else's that they lost heir bet. You can share about your working out and someone can follow you and break their leg in the gym. So, who's to blame? Or should we stop sharing our experiences only because some unfortunate people might hurt themselves following us? I don't think so.
Follow what you want to do. Not all people blame the one that give them inspiration to do the bet but yeah it can have some effect on the people who shares their bet especially if they get some negative feedback. I would probably won't care about people who suffered losses because I shared my bet, I didn't obliged them to follow my bets and if they lose, surely I lose to.

Gamblers are on the right mind to do what they want and it is their responsibility for their bets, at least they should make their own research to convince themselves. There are gamblers who just blame people because it is their coping mechanism and it's bad.
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I beg to differ as gamblers are basically addicts who have a tendency to lie. In regards to their downfall as an addict they would find another lie to reason their downfall. I have been comparing gambling addicts with alcohol addicts ans you would find the same behaviour. To an extent that these two addiction are more so similar with their addiction habit. They both hide their addiction, they hide themselves when they are satisfying their addiction. The steal money and they would kill anyone to satisfy themselves. Getting addicted is so bad that they even destroy their families reputation and the bond that holds the family together.

This is the dark and worst side of being a gambling addict. It's hard to acknowledge these, but it's the truth. Most often, those who are addicted to their vices do the vilest things just to satisfy and fulfill their desire. Moral compass is no longer on the table for them the moment they want to achieve something. It's harsh, but it's the reality. When these people no longer prioritize their needs and no longer cares about their surroundings, things will get chaotic even more for them and for the people around them.

Hence, medical intervention is needed in order to combat gambling addiction. If there would be no proper move to resolve it, it will just worsen and God knows what will happen next. Self-destruction is one thing, and perhaps they can go low as you mentioned like destroying their loved ones lives or doing illegal stuff just to be able to gamble.
You are correct, of course, when it comes to the negative consequences of gambling addiction. This beast has the ability to devour lives. But let's not delude ourselves: vices have always been a part of the human experience, have they not? Every civilisation has its share of diversion and intoxicants.

Ethics compass? Come on, it has always been pliable. Today's "moral" might not be tomorrow's. Like everyone else, gamblers are simply creatures of evolution, with a natural desire for gain. And if they go beyond bounds? That's just the character of humanity reflected in that.

medical assistance? It is, indeed, a patch. The true problem, though, is innate in us. Regarding the statement "God knows what will happen next," history has repeatedly demonstrated that mankind is its own worst enemy. Thus, rather than blaming gamblers alone, examine society as a whole.

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