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September 13, 2023, 01:26:47 PM
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If I play a game and I lost, I can take the disappointment but when someone else knows about the loss, I always feel like they'll tell others and that makes me uncomfortable. I would rather gamble online on my mobile phone than follow someone to casino to play games.

I don't know why some people cannot just be independent in their way of gambling, that each time they are going to the casinos they have to go together with their friends, though it's not something bad to always have a company of friends gambling together but it will get to a stage we may want to have some privacy about our livestyle in gambling when we would have also consider the influence we get through this friends we have.
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September 15, 2023, 08:20:18 PM
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If I play a game and I lost, I can take the disappointment but when someone else knows about the loss, I always feel like they'll tell others and that makes me uncomfortable. I would rather gamble online on my mobile phone than follow someone to casino to play games.

I don't know why some people cannot just be independent in their way of gambling, that each time they are going to the casinos they have to go together with their friends, though it's not something bad to always have a company of friends gambling together but it will get to a stage we may want to have some privacy about our livestyle in gambling when we would have also consider the influence we get through this friends we have.

If it is a friend then yeah, maybe you will share your bets, but I will assume as per the OP's post that the one asking to copy someone's bet is not even related or the person didn't know him. that's why he refused his bets to be copied.

As for going with friends in casinos, I also don't like to go solo, I go with friends, it makes gambling fun and even if you win, for sure you have the right to give some to your friends or not. If you want privacy then you should go online and at the comfort of your living room, just saying. Playing at landbase is more entertainment if you bring some relatives and close friends with you.
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September 15, 2023, 08:38:49 PM
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If I play a game and I lost, I can take the disappointment but when someone else knows about the loss, I always feel like they'll tell others and that makes me uncomfortable. I would rather gamble online on my mobile phone than follow someone to casino to play games.

I don't know why some people cannot just be independent in their way of gambling, that each time they are going to the casinos they have to go together with their friends, though it's not something bad to always have a company of friends gambling together but it will get to a stage we may want to have some privacy about our livestyle in gambling when we would have also consider the influence we get through this friends we have.

If it is a friend then yeah, maybe you will share your bets, but I will assume as per the OP's post that the one asking to copy someone's bet is not even related or the person didn't know him. that's why he refused his bets to be copied.

As for going with friends in casinos, I also don't like to go solo, I go with friends, it makes gambling fun and even if you win, for sure you have the right to give some to your friends or not. If you want privacy then you should go online and at the comfort of your living room, just saying. Playing at landbase is more entertainment if you bring some relatives and close friends with you.
A normal reaction i should say on which even myself if im on the feet of OP when someone do sees your bet slip and asking out to copy then i wont really be that confident to agree since you dont know each other.
Im not really that a kind of person on whose really that easily go mingle on someone who i dont know so i could say that it is really just that a normal reaction which you would definitely refuse or reject of such request
and not on the sense that your bet might be that affected or your luck because there's no solid proof that sharing up bets could alter out bet results.Its not written on the stars on which you could really be making yourself that confident.For some then it wont really be an issue on letting others see your bet slip because they do believe that if your lucky then you win but if not then you lose as simple as that.

Each one of us does have that kind of belief whether you do get from other person or you are making your own one and there's nothing wrong with that because it would really be that common
that imagination or thinking would really go into those extents that we might be saying that it is already non sense.  Cheesy

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September 15, 2023, 08:45:17 PM
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If I play a game and I lost, I can take the disappointment but when someone else knows about the loss, I always feel like they'll tell others and that makes me uncomfortable. I would rather gamble online on my mobile phone than follow someone to casino to play games.

I don't know why some people cannot just be independent in their way of gambling, that each time they are going to the casinos they have to go together with their friends, though it's not something bad to always have a company of friends gambling together but it will get to a stage we may want to have some privacy about our livestyle in gambling when we would have also consider the influence we get through this friends we have.

If it is a friend then yeah, maybe you will share your bets, but I will assume as per the OP's post that the one asking to copy someone's bet is not even related or the person didn't know him. that's why he refused his bets to be copied.

As for going with friends in casinos, I also don't like to go solo, I go with friends, it makes gambling fun and even if you win, for sure you have the right to give some to your friends or not. If you want privacy then you should go online and at the comfort of your living room, just saying. Playing at landbase is more entertainment if you bring some relatives and close friends with you.

Well, we all have different preferences when it comes to betting. Some of us prefer to gamble with our friends to make the experience more fun and exciting while others prefer doing it solo in the comfort of our homes. It all depends on a gambler's personality but of course, even if we choose to play with our friends, we should still know how to put control and limitations in all that we do.
If we aren't comfortable sharing our strategy or gambling style then it is our right to keep it.
I personally like going solo wherein I can gamble alone and focus on what I want without the influence of other's decisions. We all know that when we're with out friends, temptations to bet more could possibly happen.
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September 20, 2023, 10:11:54 AM
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I absolutely agree with you. If we manage to predict the outcome it makes us feel good, and that's why we are making our predictions. The money we win with the right prediction is not big, because if you don't want to risk big amounts, you never win big amounts either. It can be something around $10, not a life changing amount, but it's a day changing amount for sure. You feel good that day and that's what counts. Indeed, as you said,  "if you follow other people's bets then where's the fun in that?".

A lot of people aim to make money - hence following people's bets has even become a business where people sell betting tips on sports. On a side note - I agree with you on the point of gambling the amount that would brighten your day and not cause a sharp pain upon loss. That to me is what I would define as "recreational" gambling.

I saw them selling, but never saw someone's buying. Did you? Or, maybe you bought a sports betting tip yourself once? How it went? And yes, I'm all for the recreational gambling. You can turn your a job into fun, but don't turn fun into job.

Anyway, fearing of sharing your bets with others is weird indeed. It has something to do with superstitions, I think.

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September 20, 2023, 12:44:10 PM
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So why this belief or do you think it could be true? Or is it one of those superstitious belief among gamblers?
Do you feel cool sharing your predictions with other people and how has the outcome been looking at all the times you have shared your predictions with others?

Gamblers have all sorts of superstitions. And worse they refuse to agree that it is a superstition when it is pointed out to them or even change it. They are the incorrigible sets of persons on the planet. Show them a glaring evidence or try to persuade them to change their view point and they'll immediately pick an offense.
Gamblers like that that doesn't take the admonition not even from those fellow gamblers close to them as friends they're usually a hard nut to crack, and if they eventually falling into addiction it's very hard for them to accept and retrace their steps even when they are heavily bearing the cost of their addictive attitude. I can't deal with such people so I learn to stay away from them that I don't get use to being offensive all of the time we meet.

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Telling someone what you staked and them making the same bet isn't going to change the outcome. It is just like me betting that we'd there is going to be a storm and someone else placed the same bet as I did on the weather. This isn't going to change the outcome of what the weather would be...that it why it is a prediction.
Except for ignorance I don't think a gambler would be scared or refusing to share his predictions with another gambler. If we win we win together likewise if we lose we lose together it has nothing to do with a twist of fate affecting the outcome of predictions. So it's just a behavior  fed by ignorance.
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September 20, 2023, 01:41:36 PM
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It may not be a superstition but a requirement for that person.  If they received a tip or some involvement with the players in a match what events will take place, any inside info as to who is sick or missing from that game then he has no choice.   Its quite sensible to protect your sources if you should have any.   
  I'm not arguing with anyone who could say this to me, they cant explain themselves and I dont want the trouble for them or myself.

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September 20, 2023, 01:55:31 PM
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It may not be a superstition but a requirement for that person.  If they received a tip or some involvement with the players in a match what events will take place, any inside info as to who is sick or missing from that game then he has no choice.   Its quite sensible to protect your sources if you should have any.   
  I'm not arguing with anyone who could say this to me, they cant explain themselves and I dont want the trouble for them or myself.

If you have a leak of some sort, it's really crucial to contain the information to yourself and to not publicize nor share it to anyone else because the insider might lose his job or might be compromised in return of doing a favor for you. I really do not condone this act, but it's happening regardless so I'm just here to advice. It will be a messy situation and it will be a big disappointment to the person who trusted you to be as your source just so you could have the higher chance of winning on your bet if the identity will be disclosed.

Additionally, you aren't really sure if the source is saying a true information unless you verify it yourself so spreading and sharing it might even harm other folks for receiving a fake news.
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September 20, 2023, 05:14:35 PM
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Except for ignorance I don't think a gambler would be scared or refusing to share his predictions with another gambler. If we win we win together likewise if we lose we lose together it has nothing to do with a twist of fate affecting the outcome of predictions. So it's just a behavior  fed by ignorance.
Even though we think like that, their response may be different from what we think. They may not like sharing their predictions with other people because they think it could reduce their luck, even though each person's luck is clearly different. They must try to understand that even though they share predictions with other people, it doesn't mean that other people will win because they might win together and can celebrate together. But we also can't force them to share their predictions with us. If they object, we just leave them with their predictions and us with our predictions. Let's see who can be luckier and win the match.

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September 22, 2023, 05:58:23 AM
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A lot of people aim to make money - hence following people's bets has even become a business where people sell betting tips on sports. On a side note - I agree with you on the point of gambling the amount that would brighten your day and not cause a sharp pain upon loss. That to me is what I would define as "recreational" gambling.
I saw them selling, but never saw someone's buying. Did you? Or, maybe you bought a sports betting tip yourself once? How it went? And yes, I'm all for the recreational gambling. You can turn your a job into fun, but don't turn fun into job.

Anyway, fearing of sharing your bets with others is weird indeed. It has something to do with superstitions, I think.
It's obviously a superstition that a lot of people have. They believe that they will lose a certain bet if they share it with someone else who is unlucky, and when they don't share their bets, they manage to win. It might have happened once or twice in their life coincidentally and now they think that it is actually something. Some people have utterly foolish superstitions about gambling and you start getting annoyed when you see or hear about them.

A lot of people believe that they win in gambling during a certain hour within the day and they also believe that this certain hour works better on a specific day within the week, and I find that stupid because your luck doesn't have a time and gambling is completely based on one's luck.

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September 23, 2023, 06:36:21 AM
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The wield believe among gamblers is that despite the times you've gambled and failed,you will definitely win one day.They say winners don't quit,while quitters never win.This motivation has kept them going,believing that in as much as they don't quit,they will come out smiling some day.I personally used to have this believe,and this is the only thing that makes me continue betting and gambling despite the fact that I'm losing often.I know if I strategies well,do the right thing,I will definitely win big someday. Some gamblers also believe they can earn a living through gambling,but it doesn't make sense to me,because gambling is something no one is supposed to rely on.

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September 23, 2023, 07:59:20 AM
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If I play a game and I lost, I can take the disappointment but when someone else knows about the loss, I always feel like they'll tell others and that makes me uncomfortable. I would rather gamble online on my mobile phone than follow someone to casino to play games.

I don't know why some people cannot just be independent in their way of gambling, that each time they are going to the casinos they have to go together with their friends, though it's not something bad to always have a company of friends gambling together but it will get to a stage we may want to have some privacy about our livestyle in gambling when we would have also consider the influence we get through this friends we have.

You can't blame other gamblers who play gambling either. I remembered that before I gambled, during those times I always lost, and then the person next to me who also gambled always won. He rarely loses, which is the opposite of me, who always loses when he bets.

So what I did was, because I could see that he always hit even when he bet, I imitated where he bet, and after that, I gradually recovered my loss, as if that day I said I could only recover my loss because I hated it, and before I hated gambling, I grew even more because that day the person I was following who bet was really lucky.



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September 23, 2023, 09:54:01 AM
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It may not be a superstition but a requirement for that person.  If they received a tip or some involvement with the players in a match what events will take place, any inside info as to who is sick or missing from that game then he has no choice.   Its quite sensible to protect your sources if you should have any.   
  I'm not arguing with anyone who could say this to me, they cant explain themselves and I dont want the trouble for them or myself.

Probably yes, to protect himself as well and we can't blame that gambler, and with that if we have received some inside information and tips, for me we shouldn't shared to the gambling public.

Just bet on it and then go home and see if it hits or not. If you won then good for you, no need for others to hear what you have heard of. It's enough for you to win that game and enjoy it and don't try to explain it to others as well.
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September 23, 2023, 10:22:41 AM
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If I play a game and I lost, I can take the disappointment but when someone else knows about the loss, I always feel like they'll tell others and that makes me uncomfortable. I would rather gamble online on my mobile phone than follow someone to casino to play games.

I don't know why some people cannot just be independent in their way of gambling, that each time they are going to the casinos they have to go together with their friends, though it's not something bad to always have a company of friends gambling together but it will get to a stage we may want to have some privacy about our livestyle in gambling when we would have also consider the influence we get through this friends we have.

You can't blame other gamblers who play gambling either. I remembered that before I gambled, during those times I always lost, and then the person next to me who also gambled always won. He rarely loses, which is the opposite of me, who always loses when he bets.

So what I did was, because I could see that he always hit even when he bet, I imitated where he bet, and after that, I gradually recovered my loss, as if that day I said I could only recover my loss because I hated it, and before I hated gambling, I grew even more because that day the person I was following who bet was really lucky.

I think it goes back to each gambler, if indeed they always want to be accompanied by several friends to go to the casino it is not a problem, because maybe he really wants to have fun there with many friends, gambling while laughing maybe that's the goal in order to relieve fatigue from some defeats maybe. Some of them always want to keep their activities private and some of them are so dense with their friends that they are always together wherever they go, maybe like that. And well what you experienced I also really experienced it haha, on the other hand it is not wrong if we go to the casino with some friends and play together, but what makes us a little annoyed is when our friends always win but we always lose, it is very annoying with some ridicule from our friends because of our defeat there.

Maybe it's a pretty good way to recover your losses by copying what your friends do there, if it's useful and effective then go ahead. But other than that, I wouldn't trust your friend's method too much, I wouldn't fully and clearly say that there you also got lucky friends who have managed to recover your defeat slowly, I think you are really lucky.

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September 23, 2023, 10:42:19 AM
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A lot of people aim to make money - hence following people's bets has even become a business where people sell betting tips on sports. On a side note - I agree with you on the point of gambling the amount that would brighten your day and not cause a sharp pain upon loss. That to me is what I would define as "recreational" gambling.
I saw them selling, but never saw someone's buying. Did you? Or, maybe you bought a sports betting tip yourself once? How it went? And yes, I'm all for the recreational gambling. You can turn your a job into fun, but don't turn fun into job.

Anyway, fearing of sharing your bets with others is weird indeed. It has something to do with superstitions, I think.
It's obviously a superstition that a lot of people have. They believe that they will lose a certain bet if they share it with someone else who is unlucky, and when they don't share their bets, they manage to win. It might have happened once or twice in their life coincidentally and now they think that it is actually something. Some people have utterly foolish superstitions about gambling and you start getting annoyed when you see or hear about them.

A lot of people believe that they win in gambling during a certain hour within the day and they also believe that this certain hour works better on a specific day within the week, and I find that stupid because your luck doesn't have a time and gambling is completely based on one's luck.

Lots of sports gamblers share their picks and discuss why one team will win and the other will lose. ?Just look at the sports threads in the forum, like the UFC prediction where they share screenshots of their bets. I help a bettor decide which to put their money on.

I think it's true that basketball players themselves also have some belief that they bring their luck charms while playing the game and win. It gives them the motivation or at least they believe they'll win when they have those jewelry with them.


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September 23, 2023, 12:27:26 PM
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It may not be a superstition but a requirement for that person.  If they received a tip or some involvement with the players in a match what events will take place, any inside info as to who is sick or missing from that game then he has no choice.   Its quite sensible to protect your sources if you should have any.   
  I'm not arguing with anyone who could say this to me, they cant explain themselves and I dont want the trouble for them or myself.

Probably yes, to protect himself as well and we can't blame that gambler, and with that if we have received some inside information and tips, for me we shouldn't shared to the gambling public.

Just bet on it and then go home and see if it hits or not. If you won then good for you, no need for others to hear what you have heard of. It's enough for you to win that game and enjoy it and don't try to explain it to others as well.
Yes, we can't blame the gambler for not sharing his bet with us. But if he wants to share it and says his bet is to only share it with us and not share it with other people, we have to really look after it because it is a matter of the trust he has given us.

And I agree that we can place a bet and just see the results. If we win, it is our luck, but if we lose, it is our defeat and we should not regret it. It's enough for us to know about it and don't tell other people because maybe it could trigger problems with other people.

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There many weird beliefs that most gamblers does share but the one I find most weird among all their belief that revealing their bets to a third party before the end of the games they staked in will likely stop them from winning the revealed bet hence the decision to always keep it to themselves. They superstitiously believe that if they should reveal their bets to another person, the bad luck that follows that particular person is gonna stop them a possibility of winning such bets and that I find too weird

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September 24, 2023, 06:53:28 AM
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There many weird beliefs that most gamblers does share but the one I find most weird among all their belief that revealing their bets to a third party before the end of the games they staked in will likely stop them from winning the revealed bet hence the decision to always keep it to themselves. They superstitiously believe that if they should reveal their bets to another person, the bad luck that follows that particular person is gonna stop them a possibility of winning such bets and that I find too weird

I think this is a really weird belief that many people in the world have. In my country they did a test where they would ask lottery gamblers for their numbers and they were all secretive about it, probably only 1 out of 10 people was willing to share his numbers openly. Even more interesting, they started to offer money for their lottery tickets, like 2-3 times the value of the ticket. And still the people where not willing to give away their number. This is a very irrational behaviour, because the people could just buy a new lottery ticket with the same numbers. The only real explanation was that the people didn't want to share their winnings if they really win the jackpot. But with such a small chance of winning the jackpot I would always take save money if it was offered to me. Another thing is that I don't have fixed money when it comes to lottery, I always choose random. Being superstitious is not a good idea when it comes to gambling in my opinion. Starting to believe in pattern that are not there can make lead to be big losses and we should try to stay as rational as possible instead.


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September 25, 2023, 06:17:11 PM
Last edit: October 01, 2023, 12:05:39 AM by STT
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In a maths view perhaps with a lottery it could make sense to collect numbers.   On the basis of knowing which number combinations remain unused will increase the payout.   Like anything if your reward goes up for the same money risked, this is a better rate of return a superior yield.   Anytime you can do a bit of maths, deploy some statistics and probability to earn a few extra bucks its worth doing.
   Ideally a computer would manage all this, just going person to person is not feasible by itself but maths 'genius' have deployed such ideas in the past to a profit, unbelievable but true Smiley

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September 27, 2023, 09:11:45 AM
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It's obviously a superstition that a lot of people have. They believe that they will lose a certain bet if they share it with someone else who is unlucky, and when they don't share their bets, they manage to win. It might have happened once or twice in their life coincidentally and now they think that it is actually something. Some people have utterly foolish superstitions about gambling and you start getting annoyed when you see or hear about them.

A lot of people believe that they win in gambling during a certain hour within the day and they also believe that this certain hour works better on a specific day within the week, and I find that stupid because your luck doesn't have a time and gambling is completely based on one's luck.

Yes, it's a very dangerous situation when following your superstitious beliefs you win coincidentally and then you believe in that crap even stronger. It's better for you to lose all the time than this.

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I think it's true that basketball players themselves also have some belief that they bring their luck charms while playing the game and win. It gives them the motivation or at least they believe they'll win when they have those jewelry with them.

I don't want to support superstitions, but I think it's important to note that there is a big difference between superstitious gamblers and superstitious athletes. The former are just dumb. Since the outcome of the game does not depend on their mood in any way, it doesn't matter how they feel. With athletes, on the other hand, their mood is important. So, if they believe, even wrongly, that something might help them win, it can improve their spirits and indeed help them win.

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