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July 31, 2023, 10:18:59 AM
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Hello Casino Bitcointalk Community,


I am going to concentrate to write what my thoughts are and use help where necesarry and also to not let it look as if it is just an advertisement from my side. It´s broader.


First of all, this comes from me but also read it in general. I wrote this recently:

People without enough knowledge abouy cryptos het to hear, day in day out, CRYPTOS ARE BAD. Like drugs.
But many people do not buy that BS anymore.

So why don´t we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.
Crypto is freedom, no?
Well, that people are all screaming for freedom. And don´t know sjit about cryptos.



So, unless I am missing something and cryptos are dead, what do I miss?

Today, I'd like to share some thoughts on a unique opportunity that lies at the intersection of free speech, online communities, and as a human right, although a tricky business (like all businesses in the world) also the burgeoning world of cryptocurrency gambling.

As the owner of commonsensetv.nl, a well-established platform (2019) dedicated to free speech, once a very big platform but I wish I knew what I know now. My business skills were not that good but it was fun and the platform still exists and has a lot of potential to be the national place whe only real people can come and speak and no trolls, AI bots etcetera. For the moment we have between 1200-2000 visitors a day.

I've had my fair share of experiences with the traditional advertising world, but knew too little. I've tried the usual routes - Google's AdSense, affiliate programs, and the like. While these methods have their merits, they didn't quite align with my vision. It could have make me rich, by the way. Little did I know. It was not my goal either. I stood behind the deep sense of our platform. I still do, although opinions change. I think that is a good thing.

I would like to discuss an alternative path. One that not only strays from the beaten track but also bridges the gap between different online communities.

My idea is simple: Instead of relying on traditional advertising methods, why not explore the potential of direct advertising within the crypto gambling community? But here's the twist - instead of limiting this to crypto-focused platforms, we introduce these opportunities to a broader audience, such as the community at commonsensetv.nl.

Imagine a banner that not only promotes a crypto casino or service but also sparks a conversation about the potential of cryptocurrencies. Or a blog post that informs and entertains, subtly highlighting the benefits of a particular casino or game, while also educating readers about the broader implications of cryptocurrencies.

This approach allows for a more targeted advertising strategy, fostering a sense of community and mutual growth. It also opens up the door for long-term, creative collaborations. Think sponsored tournaments, branded games, or even the development of new, innovative gambling platforms.

By embracing these alternative advertising methods, we can create a more engaging, dynamic, and ultimately successful gambling sector. One that values creativity, community, and the unique opportunities that cryptocurrencies provide.

I'm eager to hear your thoughts on this and look forward to exploring these opportunities together.

Best Regards and I might post two or three very similar posts elsewhere on this forum. This is because I am still not sure what is the best place to attract the right people for this.

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July 31, 2023, 10:50:54 AM
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Best Regards and I might post two or three very similar posts elsewhere on this forum. This is because I am still not sure what is the best place to attract the right people for this.

If you ask me this is not a good idea, if you’re looking for more casino to recognize you then you should make your thread here in the gambling section or preferably gambling discussion but the moment you start to create multiple threads that has the same content then you’ll most likely not have any thread again because mod might take them to be a spam and delete all of them that is if you’re not ban for plagiarizing yourself.

The best thing to do is to create a thread that will start up good discussions that way others might wanna try your site out but if your thread becomes dead like other projects you might not be able to achieve what it is that you’re looking for. The best thing do right now is to lock the rest of your duplicate threads or deleted them if you can.

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July 31, 2023, 10:52:22 AM
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Okay, that is a good one.

But if we forget my personal goals, is this something new?

EDIT: I never see, I call it traditional sites, I hope you understand me, that advertise for this world.That brings those worlds together.
MANY people want to, but have no clue. If it is in the anonymous casino playing, or really get "into it".

Think about older people as well. 50+, 60+, even just 40+ have no clue. I know this. I ask my audience. And i know myself. I pretend to, but when we go talk tecnical, I have no clue.
That´s why I´m here as well. For a couple of reasons.

But not and never to screw someone here.
And I guess I have a big problem if I do.

The question is legit. If I think for hours about this, then it must be legit from my side.

People without enough knowledge abouy cryptos het to hear, day in day out, CRYPTOS ARE BAD. Like drugs.
But many people do not buy that BS anymore.

So why don´t we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.
Crypto is freedom, no?
Well, that people are all screaming for freedom. And don´t know sjit about cryptos.

So, unless I am missing something and cryptos are dead, what do I miss?
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July 31, 2023, 11:24:24 AM
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Well reading your thread I didn't see much that you wanted from those members that are not owners of gambling casinos or are not affiliates of them either. I think your post is to casinos that you may be seeking the kind of collaboration you want. So why don't you post on the threads of some of the casinos you want or send a pm to them directly or use their social media handles to reach to them directly. You either have a service you want to offer, maybe to them on the casino but this forum is specifically for bitcoin and crypto related concerns.

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July 31, 2023, 11:27:29 AM
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Well reading your thread I didn't see much that you wanted from those members that are not owners of gambling casinos or are not affiliates of them either. I think your post is to casinos that you may be seeking the kind of collaboration you want. So why don't you post on the threads of some of the casinos you want or send a pm to them directly or use their social media handles to reach to them directly. You either have a service you want to offer, maybe to them on the casino but this forum is specifically for bitcoin and crypto related concerns.

Thank you, I appreciate it. Very useful. I wish I could give you merit, if that means anything.

But it is not just about me. Maybe I should mention that in OP:

I edited last post and wrote this in addition:

"People without enough knowledge abouy cryptos het to hear, day in day out, CRYPTOS ARE BAD. Like drugs.
But many people do not buy that BS anymore.

So why don´t we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.
Crypto is freedom, no?
Well, that people are all screaming for freedom. And don´t know sjit about cryptos.

So, unless I am missing something and cryptos are dead, what do I miss?"
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July 31, 2023, 01:09:38 PM
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So why don´t we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.
Crypto is freedom, no?
Well, that people are all screaming for freedom. And don´t know sjit about cryptos.

So, unless I am missing something and cryptos are dead, what do I miss?"

You have another platform that is bigger and better than this?where cryptocurrency, bitcoin or gambling ads are discussed and run? I'm thinking maybe you discuss directly with casino owners if your platform is about casinos and of course reputable. Or you throw up your service at the service board for signature campaign if you have the funds to organize that, signature managers will surely job on it for you and deliver good job, just my thinking.

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July 31, 2023, 01:44:14 PM
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So why don´t we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.

If I may ask what alternative source of media publicity are you talking about.  So far the social media, television and radio aspects of advertising have been consistently on in promoting Bitcoin and Crypto world wide. Crypto has a wide range of coverage globally only what is left now is adoption and integration and that has to do with the government policies Governing  each country to be favourable for smooth adoption process for Bitcoin and Crypto at large.

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July 31, 2023, 01:56:29 PM
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I would like to discuss an alternative path. One that not only strays from the beaten track but also bridges the gap between different online communities.

My idea is simple: Instead of relying on traditional advertising methods, why not explore the potential of direct advertising within the crypto gambling community? But here's the twist - instead of limiting this to crypto-focused platforms, we introduce these opportunities to a broader audience, such as the community at commonsensetv.nl.

Imagine a banner that not only promotes a crypto casino or service but also sparks a conversation about the potential of cryptocurrencies. Or a blog post that informs and entertains, subtly highlighting the benefits of a particular casino or game, while also educating readers about the broader implications of cryptocurrencies.


I don't think this is new, many platforms on different niches already displayed Cryptocurrency based platforms like casinos if you are that confident become an affiliate of casinos and see your conversion if you want to offer your blog advertising for a fee, your site should have a good ranking and it has a good conversion, this is why casino review sites convert because they offer and explore what they advertise instead of just displaying banners.

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So why don´t we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.

If I may ask what alternative source of media publicity are you talking about.  So far the social media, television and radio aspects of advertising have been consistently on in promoting Bitcoin and Crypto world wide. Crypto has a wide range of coverage globally only what is left now is adoption and integration and that has to do with the government policies Governing  each country to be favourable for smooth adoption process for Bitcoin and Crypto at large.

That's the point of discussion.
My overall perception of the crypto community is that they aim to pique the curiosity of as many people as possible and turn them into crypto-enthusiasts.
On the other hand, where I've been coming from in recent years, media, governments, and even the so-called "Alternative Media" have long sold their souls and lost their independence (trust me, they try to buy you, but I'm not someone who sells his principles for money, despite appearances).

So, aside from casinos, which everyone has the right to play in without excessive KYC and government restrictions on how much you can play per day (in Spain it's €600), and being tracked every step of the way.

Now, regarding services, I should focus on services or perhaps ebooks or guides. Let's take my website as an example.

Now, I'm aware of AI. There's CHATGPT with all its plugins.
I could write an eBook about various aspects related to Bitcoin.

I have no issue with using AI as a tool to assist. However, I do have a problem with writing the eBook myself without having any knowledge about the subject.

I want my friends from my website to save some coins, knowing how to and learning what to do with it. I do not want them to make the banks happy.



I would like to discuss an alternative path. One that not only strays from the beaten track but also bridges the gap between different online communities.

My idea is simple: Instead of relying on traditional advertising methods, why not explore the potential of direct advertising within the crypto gambling community? But here's the twist - instead of limiting this to crypto-focused platforms, we introduce these opportunities to a broader audience, such as the community at commonsensetv.nl.

Imagine a banner that not only promotes a crypto casino or service but also sparks a conversation about the potential of cryptocurrencies. Or a blog post that informs and entertains, subtly highlighting the benefits of a particular casino or game, while also educating readers about the broader implications of cryptocurrencies.


I don't think this is new, many platforms on different niches already displayed Cryptocurrency based platforms like casinos if you are that confident become an affiliate of casinos and see your conversion if you want to offer your blog advertising for a fee, your site should have a good ranking and it has a good conversion, this is why casino review sites convert because they offer and explore what they advertise instead of just displaying banners.

I understand every word you say. And I have the feeling it is not new.
People contact me, shady people (no names, strange email) and they want me to pay for a guest post. I did it once and the guest post was exactly about a casino that fits here, maybe it is even active here. But after contacting (literally) tens of casinos I got 0 answers.

I miss something.
My site authority is 38.
We have 1k - 2k visitors a day.

We even come from 40k to 100k visitors a day. Yes, it sounds unbelievable, especially for a Dutch site, but it happened. Now, this was during corona. So spent many more hours online.
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July 31, 2023, 02:17:49 PM
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So why don´t we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.

If I may ask what alternative source of media publicity are you talking about.  So far the social media, television and radio aspects of advertising have been consistently on in promoting Bitcoin and Crypto world wide. Crypto has a wide range of coverage globally only what is left now is adoption and integration and that has to do with the government policies Governing  each country to be favourable for smooth adoption process for Bitcoin and Crypto at large.

So, aside from casinos, which everyone has the right to play in without excessive KYC and government restrictions on how much you can play per day (in Spain it's €600), and being tracked every step of the way.
 

I think you are getting it wrong here. Casinos do conduct KYC based on government policies governing their locations or place of registration. Most casinos demand for KYC irrespective of who you are. There are lots of casinos here which requires KYC for gamblers to register even if they claim to be a KYC free casino but upon winning, they change and tell you based on government policies that you do present your valid ID for verification purposes before withdrawal approval. So tell me is that KYC free? Is the KYC not as a result of government policies?

Another reasons for KYC is to note age of gamblers if they meet up with the government approved age in their country for gambling and lastly casinos demand for KYC to know countries on their restricted list.  I think you need to do a proper diligence OP.

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July 31, 2023, 03:07:03 PM
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I think you are getting it wrong here. Casinos do conduct KYC based on government policies governing their locations or place of registration. Most casinos demand for KYC irrespective of who you are. There are lots of casinos here which requires KYC for gamblers to register even if they claim to be a KYC free casino but upon winning, they change and tell you based on government policies that you do present your valid ID for verification purposes before withdrawal approval. So tell me is that KYC free? Is the KYC not as a result of government policies?

Correct. KYC is a requirement for Anti Money Laundering so that government make sure that all players in the casino doesn’t violate the law.

Regarding the casino that claim KYC free but later on ask user for it. I’m sure only shady casino do this and also those casino license to operate is the only casino allowed to require KYC legally and most of the licensed casino can ask KYC based on their ToS and doesn’t boast KYC free.

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I think you are getting it wrong here. Casinos do conduct KYC based on government policies governing their locations or place of registration. Most casinos demand for KYC irrespective of who you are. There are lots of casinos here which requires KYC for gamblers to register even if they claim to be a KYC free casino but upon winning, they change and tell you based on government policies that you do present your valid ID for verification purposes before withdrawal approval. So tell me is that KYC free? Is the KYC not as a result of government policies?

Correct. KYC is a requirement for Anti Money Laundering so that government make sure that all players in the casino doesn’t violate the law.

Regarding the casino that claim KYC free but later on ask user for it. I’m sure only shady casino do this and also those casino license to operate is the only casino allowed to require KYC legally and most of the licensed casino can ask KYC based on their ToS and doesn’t boast KYC free.

Government did the kyc because of the anti money laundering act. So they want to keep watch of every transaction from every financial institution in their jurisdiction so as not to loss and keep anything suspicious on track. Be it casino, sportbook etc. As for casinos that claim kyc free, I  think that is just a stunt to gain traffic to their site and to gain more members because online gamblers prefer a kyc free casino to preserve their identity so those casino takes advantage of it to hold them down and when they win big, withdrawal is always a problem and they start demanding for kyc and if they are scammers they run away with gamblers funds.

Truly all licensed casino from the government demand for kyc as that is a criteria which they would require to do before admitting any gambler to opening an account with them and  operating as a gambler so as not to violate the country policies.

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July 31, 2023, 08:51:56 PM
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I believe you are trying to develop your advertising platform for startups, including reputable cryptocurrency casinos. It's a great initiative that can be beneficial, but it's not that simple. It requires more effort as you'll be expected to provide a weekly blog post about gambling and promotional offers available at most casinos. Your website also needs to be ranked to attract offers from different parties. I wish you success in this endeavor.
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I believe you are trying to develop your advertising platform for startups, including reputable cryptocurrency casinos. It's a great initiative that can be beneficial, but it's not that simple. It requires more effort as you'll be expected to provide a weekly blog post about gambling and promotional offers available at most casinos. Your website also needs to be ranked to attract offers from different parties. I wish you success in this endeavor.

it would take time and resources to keep afloat about the business you want to venture with. i understand, the OP is trying to get insights from the community. but if you don't have the luxury to wait for your potential clients in order to sustain your business, better look for another business idea that will truly give you potential profits at a short period of time. in this industry, reputation is very important to move forward, so it means, it will be years in the making. if you do really want to pursue this market, you should have other means of income that can back up your current endeavours.

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Hello Casino Bitcointalk Community,


I am going to concentrate to write what my thoughts are and use help where necesarry and also to not let it look as if it is just an advertisement from my side. It´s broader.


First of all, this comes from me but also read it in general. I wrote this recently:

People without enough knowledge abouy cryptos het to hear, day in day out, CRYPTOS ARE BAD. Like drugs.
But many people do not buy that BS anymore.

So why don´t we see, at least alternative media, with an other type of advertisement and inform the public about crypto.
Crypto is freedom, no?
Well, that people are all screaming for freedom. And don´t know sjit about cryptos.



 I find this very interesting but I think the creation of this thread  alone is enough so as not to attract suspicions that's could lead to a ban on your account, I think you did a great job by creating awareness on how to educate people about crypto and how to go about it, because constant information would help enlighten them to understand about crypto and desist from the wrong ideas they have about it, there are some gamblers that's are yet to know that there are crypto casino and that crypto can be used in gambling on different platforms apart from their various fiat currencies.
 Also the creation of banners and posters would help those that reside in rural area, especially areas that are not yet exposed to modern technologies. I belive this movement would create an awareness that something of such exist and might also motivate them to want to learn about it and discover the benefits of partaking in cryptocurrency investments.

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True, the general public tends to view cryptocurrencies as the proverbial "bad guy," and thats a mindset we should try to change.

It sounds like you're recommending that websites like commonsensetv.nl be used to spread information about cryptocurrencies and the freedom it represents. I can see the value in your suggestion; its outside the norm and it could end up being successful. There is, however, a major "but" that must be taken into account.

While cryptocurrencies do remove certain regulatory barriers to entry, they also arent foolproof. Therefore, advocating for it as the sole route to independence may be deceptive. Therefore, it is essential to emphasize both the advantages and disadvantages.

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August 01, 2023, 05:06:55 AM
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QueenVera and Blitzboy:

That´s indeed how I see it.
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August 01, 2023, 06:47:14 AM
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Your site are basically a platform for "Free Speech" ..so I reckon the traditional advertisers might clash with some of the views and opinions that are discussed there, so you are looking for advertisers that are more open-minded... right?

Well, the Crypto currency world are full of open-minded people and also people with Libertarian goals. So your site will fit like a glove for many of these companies that share these goals.

Crypto Casinos are not 100% behind the "Freedom" goals, some just converted from the old Brick-n-mortar model to chase new revenue sources.  Roll Eyes

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August 01, 2023, 08:43:30 AM
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I read all of your replies and ugh, damn it, I did. You want to make something different from the advertising media that you have often seen. It's a good idea because it will intrigue the people who see it and surely they will find out more about crypto (if the ad is related to crypto). Your idea is going well because it introduces crypto and information about crypto knowledge being carried out by sources and people, making people even more interested in following it. So far, people have been learning about crypto based on programs such as Ponzi, HYIP, Cloud Mining, Fast Trading, and Investment Programs.

If you can implement your idea into an advertising medium, it will make people curious. So that a dialogue will occur between them and the source (if the advertisement refers to an online meeting). They can interact with sources or experts in their fields to learn more about crypto from the right sources.

And for KYC, it looks like this could become more stringent in the future, especially for the gambling business, because the government wants to limit the movement of the perpetrators of illegal activities in utilizing crypto. For this reason, casinos have started implementing KYC for all of their members, especially those who use big money to do KYC. After doing KYC, the casino will know who is behind the gambling account using big money. If the casino reports it to the government, the government can also see that the person is not related to any illegal activities.

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