Certified Bitcoin Professional

[tabas]

I am not sure if this was posted already and I know that many will raise their eyebrows on this one. Because we've got a lot of experts here that are technically knowledgeable and adept about the Bitcoin network itself and not just for it but also for other chains.

But out of boredom and trying to search for something related to this, I've stumbled upon this certification of being a "Certified Bitcoin Professional" (CBP) by C4(cryptoconsortium) so I think that I have to share this one. As we know that this is still an industry that doesn't have standards for being a professional and most likely it's just all about being a programmer/developer, project manager, trader, investor and etc. Here is this organization that has set an industry standard for everyone. Looking at the people behind this includes Andreas Antonopoulos as one of their board of directors. The rest of the team members, I don't know them. So they have a course just like any other in able to pass and get certified.

I don't know the credibility yet of this but searching a bit of its info, it seems that their certification is recognized based on the google results that came out to me. Going with the exam it will cost you $99.99 as per its website and then the certification fee is $39.99. They also have other courses like Certified Ethereum Professional, the rest is on their website.

My take on this one is that if you've got a lot of spare money and you want to get into this, it's just all about satisfaction and getting the certificate unless you want to apply for jobs related to Bitcoin and related to blockchain technology. Anyway, it's still best to have the knowledge when you're applying even without the certification as that's going to be more honored by a company you are applying for.

But if you're for the knowledge, the forum is more than enough for what you can learn from there and it's for free and that's why we're all grateful that we're part of this great community. Probably most of those people that are behind these orgs have been here as well.

There is also another organization that has this certification aside from C4 and that's blockchain council's - Certified Bitcoin Expert. And they've got more courses aside from this specific certification while for them, their certification is lifetime and for the C4, you have to renew it.

PS: I am not related to them and just thought of sharing this and thanks for reading everyone. 

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[Dunamisx]

My take on this one is that if you've got a lot of spare money and you want to get into this, it's just all about satisfaction and getting the certificate unless you want to apply for jobs related to Bitcoin and related to blockchain technology.

Being certified by any recognized institution is only a proof that you've undergone through their path while learning but the real experience needed is the application of what you've learnt into practical use, as long as you can perform upto expectation and deliver the best needed of you, certification works for you and the other prospect you may have with working with other organizations as part of their requirements, but if for yourself, you may not need that except you want to learn while having their certificate along as an added advantage.

But if you're for the knowledge, the forum is more than enough for what you can learn from there and it's for free and that's why we're all grateful that we're part of this great community. Probably most of those people that are behind these orgs have been here as well.

You're right, some of them may actually be here unknowingly to us, but what we needed is to ensure we have what is required to be informed about bitcoin and understand how the whole network operates for our own benefits, many never know the advantage this forum offers them until they go outside the forum to pay for same thing the learn freely from bitcointalk.

[pooya87]

My take on this one is that if you've got a lot of spare money and you want to get into this, it's just all about satisfaction and getting the certificate unless you want to apply for jobs related to Bitcoin and related to blockchain technology.

Two questions come to mind here. First is whether companies hiring "blockchain experts" require such certificates or care if you have one or not. Second is whether these hiring companies even recognize the issuer of such certificates!

I haven't really looked for the jobs in this industry but from what I've seen from startups and other small businesses in this field, the experts themselves create these small companies and then they hire regular programmers, etc. to help build the business.
Not to mention that when anybody hires employees, they look for experience not certificates. For example when they hire a programmer, they don't ask them who taught them c++. Instead they ask them how many lines of c++ they have written and what programs they've created, and stuff like that.

[bitmover]

My take on this one is that if you've got a lot of spare money and you want to get into this, it's just all about satisfaction and getting the certificate unless you want to apply for jobs related to Bitcoin and related to blockchain technology.

Two questions come to mind here. First is whether companies hiring "blockchain experts" require such certificates or care if you have one or not. Second is whether these hiring companies even recognize the issuer of such certificates!

I believe this kind of certificate is useless.

I have this certification, I was approved in this exam by 2018 ( It already expired). Aa company paid for my exam, otherwise I wouldn't take it.

One thing that is interesting about this certification are the people behind it: Antonopoulos  and Vitalik Buterin (he was when I took the exam, but I believe he left).

I wouldn't do it again, only if someone paid me to do it or to have it.

[Faisal2202]

So what you are trying to say is that a person "going from one frying pan into another fire" Means you get out of one trouble to get into another trouble. Wow! Let me explain my words. Andrew Tate used to criticise the current education system as part of the matrix, which doesn't want kids to learn more so they can become independent. Instead, they want to teach kids only what they feel is more dependent.

So, when students leave the education system and step into making money, they choose BTC as the best investment plan for a lesser investment portfolio, and to avoid that education degree circle, they will again start another circle of getting degrees in BTC. Why would someone do that because such a field (which means this BTC field) cannot be 100% corrected or predicted by a certified person? So, what's the purpose of that certificate? Are they the true owners of BTC who are distributing Certificates for trading, developing blockchain, etc.?

They are nothin, and this is some next-level technique to lure people into wasting their money on such certificates so that they could show off on their social media platforms. Nothing more. 

[mendace]

It makes me laugh enough that a company invents a course of study on blockchain and Bitcoin and then wants to issue a certification to say that you are now officially an expert ... in reality you have stolen my money.  I would like to know who gives them the right to say that that certification is authentic, in short Bitcoin is not a product of a company and I don't understand how a company certification can become a standard...lol

[Blitzboy]

While the prospect of earning a "Certified Bitcoin Professional" designation intrigues me, it also makes me suspicious. There is a clear need for more uniform qualifications in this field, but it is unclear if C4's accreditation, or that of any other group, can meet that demand. How does one become a Bitcoin expert? Programming, trading, investing, and other financial savvy would all be helpful, at least in theory.

In addition, developments in the bitcoin industry occur at an unprecedented rate, making it difficult for a static curriculum to keep up. It's like trying to keep water from dripping through your fingers.

Last but not least, an accreditation's worth is determined by its standing in the marketplace. I am interested in knowing how this certification is seen by potential employers. Does it set you apart from the competition significantly, or is it just another line on your resume?

[DooMAD]

It's almost like a 'Chicken or Egg' situation.  Who certified them to be in a position to say you're certified if you complete their course?

Every time someone invents a new technology, anyone could come along and say "pay me money and I'll say you're certified".  Certificates are only useful if relevant industries accept them, but I suppose it helps if there are some recognisable names on the board of directors for this particular one.

[franky1]

SEC chief G.Gensler was a bitcoin lecturer at MIT a few years ago... teaching kids about bitcoin.. years later even gensler cant decide what bitcoin is..
just goes to show how poor even known institutions dont really know what they are talking about

[Zlantann]

It makes me laugh enough that a company invents a course of study on blockchain and Bitcoin and then wants to issue a certification to say that you are now officially an expert ... in reality you have stolen my money.  I would like to know who gives them the right to say that that certification is authentic, in short Bitcoin is not a product of a company and I don't understand how a company certification can become a standard...lol

This certificate will be useful only when it is a criterion for one to secure a job. Certificates most times are not proof of proficiency in an area because most of these issuing bodies or agencies might focus on making money from certification instead of knowledge. From the little time I have spent in the sector, I have never seen a job vacancy that requires a certification for a Bitcoin expert. Most of these jobs require practical knowledge and most applicants are interviewed or tested based on how well they can apply their experience. The decentralized nature of Bitcoin and the anonymity of some of its reputable early supporters will always make it difficult to have a generally recognized certificate.

[pawel7777]

Andreas Antonopoulos lost a lot in my eyes by going full leftist in some of his tweets. I've no idea what is he up to now.
The certificate was designed for professionals from various industries to get them familiar of what Bitcoin actually is and how it works.
It's probably not very useful for anyone wanting to dive much deeper into it. You could probably learn more by experimenting yourself (i.e. playing with testnet) and talking to people on technical boards.

SEC chief G.Gensler was a bitcoin lecturer at MIT a few years ago... teaching kids about bitcoin.. years later even gensler cant decide what bitcoin is..
just goes to show how poor even known institutions dont really know what they are talking about

In all fairness, I think he explicitly said that Bitcoin is not a security. He was undecided on other cryptos.

[franky1]

SEC chief G.Gensler was a bitcoin lecturer at MIT a few years ago... teaching kids about bitcoin.. years later even gensler cant decide what bitcoin is..
just goes to show how poor even known institutions dont really know what they are talking about

In all fairness, I think he explicitly said that Bitcoin is not a security. He was undecided on other cryptos.

thats more about him not wanting to be seen as the guy applying regulations('not my job boss'), but everyone knows he is applying regulation.. again he cant decide to be involved or not be involved because he goes back and forth about if people should or should not register with the SEC

point being though he, as a lecturer should have been an expert first then be able to lecture it to others. but recent proof is he is not helping anyone. again showing that educational 'experts' are not certified enough themselves, let alone qualified to certify those they teach

[serjent05]

One thing to see if the certification is practical or needed is the credibility of such certification.  Is it credited by the authority to handle such certification?  Is the certification acknowledged by any government institution or private company?  Can it be used to apply for a position? Those are some questions to answer in order to say that this kind of certification is a must for career-oriented individuals.   But if it is not then I think it is just a waste of time and money.

[Casdinyard]

Certifications are nothing more than awards or proof that you've undergone training in order to claim that title. In the grand scheme of things you're not necessarily as great as someone who had 5+ years of experience in blockchain technology if you've gone through an online course training program to get your certification lol. Nothing beats experience in this industry and I can attest to that with the fact that I had a friend in the past who bought these online course training programs, this time for blockchain technology and got his certification, in the end he worked at a fortune 200 company that doesn't even dabble in blockchain technology while another friend of mine who had 2 years of working closely with cryptocurrencies as a full stack developer landed a job in this industry and is comfortably working in the comfort of his own home. Not comparing or contrasting who's better and who's not, just that these certifications doesn't act as a guarantee that you'd be a master at the thing you just trained for. Mastery requires 20% training and 80% hands-on experience.

[BenCodie]

Institutions have been trying to profit from knowledge certifications for quite a few years now. The problem with them is that they are barely recognised as official certifications of knowledge to companies, and as another user said, is unlikely to be worth anything anywhere at this stage. Maybe, it's a step toward the best certifications standing out in the future and it will be worth getting the certification now for the sake of cheaper cost, as cost of a cert. might increase if it becomes recognised...other than that purpose, I don't see any other use case.

It will be hard to establish something recognisable and useful. At least, until colleges and universities create some form of certification and study. That is quite unlikely to happen soon, if at all.

[robelneo]

Certificates are proof that you have undergone a test on what you know on the subject and the issuer should be credible enough to back you up on your knowledge about the subject, like you never know someone you met until you see the certificates that he received.
There will be a lot of jobs and professions that will include knowledge about Bitcoin and Cryptocurrency and you will need something like this to back you up if you're a company and you're going to hire someone you want to see as many courses your applicant has gone through that is related to the job applying, so is when you're an applicant.
In the future, we will have Universities offering this kind of course, there's a lot of demand in many sectors where knowledge of Cryptocurrency and blockchain is essential.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

For me personally, i do not and will not consider any certificate from any of this firms important, it is nothing but business for me, they are just feeding on the ignorance of some people, what ever lesson or knowledge regrading bitcoin and blockchain that this firm is awarding this certificate for, same can be learnt and even extra ordinarily perfected through online courses from several platforms like Udemy and the likes, and the beautiful thing about Udemy is that, you can find any course there at a very cheap amount of money, all is required is your willingness and determination to learn..

Another thing i was even thinking about just about now is, lets say like the op said, that google seem to recognize the certificate being issued out by this firm, how many blockchain firm know about the firm and the certificate? how easy can a person with the certificate secure a lucrative job in a blockchain company? this is the only way we can know if those certificate are truly valuable or not.

[hatshepsut93]

I imagine for Bitcoin-related jobs, experience is the most important quality in a candidate. If someone has a good portfolio of delivered Bitcoin projects, they don't need certificates. So they are only useful for people who only entered the field, but only if these certificates are recognized by the potential employers.

[sheenshane]

Interesting IMO.
There could be other organizations like Blockchain Council offering similar certifications.  However, forums and communities are great resources to learn for free and just thought of sharing this, ain't affiliated with them.

For me personally, i do not and will not consider any certificate from any of this firms important, it is nothing but business for me, they are just feeding on the ignorance of some people, what ever lesson or knowledge regrading bitcoin and blockchain that this firm is awarding this certificate for, same can be learnt and even extra ordinarily perfected through online courses from several platforms like Udemy and the likes, and the beautiful thing about Udemy is that, you can find any course there at a very cheap amount of money, all is required is your willingness and determination to learn..

I tend to agree with you that in fact, many certificates offered by such firms might not hold much value in the eyes of potential employers, especially in the blockchain industry where practical skills and knowledge matter more.  Online platforms like Udemy offer a wide range of courses at affordable prices, providing a more practical and accessible way to learn about Bitcoin and blockchain.

I think the credibility and recognition of these certificates depend on how well-known the issuing firms are within the blockchain community.  If blockchain companies and industry experts didn't recognize these certificates as valuable indicators of competence, then their worth is questionable IMO.

[virasog]

It makes me laugh enough that a company invents a course of study on blockchain and Bitcoin and then wants to issue a certification to say that you are now officially an expert ... in reality you have stolen my money.  I would like to know who gives them the right to say that that certification is authentic, in short Bitcoin is not a product of a company and I don't understand how a company certification can become a standard...lol

Very true, only the company owing Bitcoin can give you the certificate of the product and no one owns Bitcoin.

For example, we see Microsoft gives us the certificate of the product which they develop like Ms Office Certified Engineer or Windows Server Engineering Certificate. Similarly, you can get certificates from Cisco and Oracle products because those companies own that products.

No company should have the right to give the Bitcoin certificate and I think this is another money making opportunity. From my point of view, this certification have no worth.