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Hi Gamblers , I have a question majorly for slot players.. So today, i played a slot game with a very tiny amount of money, lost it all as usually, and since i was really enjoying the game, I decided to switch to demo/free mode and continue playing, then just like one or less than two minutes into playing the game on free mode, i won this $5,994, in 10 free spins that was awarded to me , see the shot below.. ![](https://ip.bitcointalk.org/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftalkimg.com%2Fimages%2F2023%2F07%2F31%2FQDBjT.jpeg&t=665&c=3rBAmTv0O8lVtQ) And then, i became confused, and i began asking myself if it was possible i could have won this same amount if I had continued to play in live/paid mode .. Those with more experience on how slot games work should please explain this.. Is it possible that playing slot game in demo mode has some kind of connection to playing it on live mode, like is your playing data on live mode transferred to demo mode and vice versa if at any point in time for some reason, you switch in-between those modes ?
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July 31, 2023, 08:04:05 PM |
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Is it possible that playing slot game in demo mode has some kind of connection to playing it on live mode, like is your playing data on live mode transferred to demo mode and vice versa if at any point in time for some reason, you switch in-between those modes ?
It may be a feeling that I have, but in my experience, I've been doing much better playing for free or with very small bets. I don't know how this works, but my suspicion is that free games are set differently. Maybe it's because free games are supposed to invite people to try the real ones? ![Huh](https://bitcointalk.org/Smileys/default/huh.gif) Honestly, I don't know and I don't have any proof for what I'm saying here, but try playing for free and switch to normal bets and you'll see that you'll do better in free games most of the time.
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July 31, 2023, 08:08:19 PM |
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No mate, there is a big difference between the Demo version vs live games, this is because in demo mode the games are prepared to be 100% probably fairness mode and at that, the game gives you the reward at a 100% free mode but that can not be untenable while playing the live games since in live slot it you against the house and the game system is programmed in such a way that the outcome will always favour the house only on few occasions that the game the gambler gets lucky to win.
So you shouldn't be surprised to see such huge winning with just 10 spins in a demo version, because there is a big difference between the fantasy of playing a demo version vs the reality of a real live casino session.
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July 31, 2023, 08:10:36 PM |
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I have not played much of a slot game, but I will give my feedback based on the experience I have had with demo accounts on different occasions with trading platforms, and I believe most of the demos are the same.
Doing some forest trading practice, I happen to always turn my $10,000, which is always credited to my demo account, into about $50,000–$100,000 within a short period of time, and this always makes me feel very lucky and as if I know how to monitor the market very well and could take home some profit if I happen to be trading with my real account, which is fully funded by me; guess what? I always lose all the money when trading.
When I fund the account using any means of payment and start trading with my real account, I happen to realize that the great risk I take using the demo account and my winnings are all based on luck, and sometimes I believe the platform is trying to play with my intelligence in order for me to put in real money.
The same thing can also be applied to the slot game. When you are using a real account and they know all your winnings will be yours, the game will be carefully observed to make sure everything is intact and your winnings are sure. In games where the winning is based on luck, it is always possible for you to be more lucky when you are using a demo account than when you are using your real account. Casinos are there to make money. A demo account is always a means of convincing someone that they are losing real money.
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July 31, 2023, 08:12:28 PM |
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Depends on the game software. For example, the manufacturer Amatic in the demo version puts bonuses almost every 30 spins, but in the game for money, 500 spins and even more can go. But the games from the manufacturer Netent demo version is no different
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July 31, 2023, 08:17:25 PM |
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Depends on the game software. For example, the manufacturer Amatic in the demo version puts bonuses almost every 30 spins, but in the game for money, 500 spins and even more can go. But the games from the manufacturer Netent demo version is no different
I didn't even know about that. Isn't changing the user experience in demo mode cheating? You're promising the client a different thing from the one he'll get when he deposits money. I don't play slots much, but demo modes always felt like they're easier, more bonuses, more things happening on the screen. In real games it feels much more boring with good spins happening from time to time just like they were trying to keep you in the game for as long as possible, not letting you win and not letting you go bust. That's how I feel when playing slots, like the game is trying to keep me playing, not allowing me to get anywhere.
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July 31, 2023, 08:20:48 PM |
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Depends on the game software. For example, the manufacturer Amatic in the demo version puts bonuses almost every 30 spins, but in the game for money, 500 spins and even more can go. But the games from the manufacturer Netent demo version is no different
And that means, it depends on the provider of the slot games how they set-up in demo vs live mode. In short, don't expect that the results in your demo mode can be the same when you play the live mode. Remember also that there is house edge to account for, so you can't translate your good results from demo mode to happen easily in live mode. And do take note, this game is based on luck. So each game of yours will have a different outcome, whether it is in demo or live mode or a different provider. I won't think much that I should be playing live mode when I get good winnings from demo mode, because your results can be totally opposite when in live mode.
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July 31, 2023, 08:34:55 PM |
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There is a significant contrast between playing the demo version and engaging in live casino games. In the demo mode, games are designed to ensure 100% fairness, allowing players to receive rewards freely without any risk. However, in live games, it's a different scenario as players face the challenge of competing against the house. The game system is programmed to favor the house most of the time, with only a few lucky instances where gamblers may win. Hence, witnessing substantial wins with just 10 spins in the demo version should not be surprising, as it portrays the fantasy of risk-free gaming. The reality of a live casino session involves higher stakes and a greater element of chance.
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July 31, 2023, 08:43:00 PM |
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Depends on the game software. For example, the manufacturer Amatic in the demo version puts bonuses almost every 30 spins, but in the game for money, 500 spins and even more can go. But the games from the manufacturer Netent demo version is no different
I didn't even know about that. Isn't changing the user experience in demo mode cheating? You're promising the client a different thing from the one he'll get when he deposits money. Exactly what i was going to point out, if this providers offer one thing in the demo version of their game and then offer something else entirely in the live version, that is simply cheating, and it also means that the whole idea of games being provably fair is nothing but a sham, a big lie.. No mate, there is a big difference between the Demo version vs live games, this is because in demo mode the games are prepared to be 100% probably fairness mode and at that, the game gives you the reward at a 100% free mode but that can not be untenable while playing the live games since in live slot it you against the house and the game system is programmed in such a way that the outcome will always favour the house only on few occasions that the game the gambler gets lucky to win.
So you shouldn't be surprised to see such huge winning with just 10 spins in a demo version, because there is a big difference between the fantasy of playing a demo version vs the reality of a real live casino session.
Same thing i am pointing out above, if the mechanics of demo versions of slot games are different from the mechanic of the live version of the same game, its cheating, and it means that provably fair is nothing but a myth, something this game providers have been using to deceive every one of us.. Making the demo version of slot games provably fair and offering something absolutely different in the live version of the same, and still making us believe it is provably fair is exactly unfair.
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July 31, 2023, 09:03:27 PM |
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No mate, there is a big difference between the Demo version vs live games, this is because in demo mode the games are prepared to be 100% probably fairness mode and at that, the game gives you the reward at a 100% free mode but that can not be untenable while playing the live games since in live slot it you against the house and the game system is programmed in such a way that the outcome will always favour the house only on few occasions that the game the gambler gets lucky to win.
So you shouldn't be surprised to see such huge winning with just 10 spins in a demo version, because there is a big difference between the fantasy of playing a demo version vs the reality of a real live casino session.
Same thing i am pointing out above, if the mechanics of demo versions of slot games are different from the mechanic of the live version of the same game, its cheating, and it means that provably fair is nothing but a myth, something this game providers have been using to deceive every one of us. Making the demo version of slot games provably fair and offering something absolutely different in the live version of the same, and still making us believe it is provably fair is exactly unfair. I don't think we can call that cheating because when they said demo it means unreal or trial version so the is no justification to question the game outcome since it was intended to be for just fun and nothing serious, just like in trading that the demo accounts easily make profits but the actual trading position can't make such profits so the gambler or the trader who decides to gamble or trade using the demo version already know that he/she in for the joke and just to cash fun and get familiar with the operational environment of such service. So we shouldn't take them so seriously as per se that the demo version is not equal in anything with the real live version of any product.
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July 31, 2023, 09:05:38 PM |
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You are just being lured so you will think your date is about to get lucky. It's just like trading on the demo account, you win big using your demo account but when you go to the live account with real money that's when you see it's really set differently like @darkangel11 said.
But I would love to think the casinos are offering free spins which you can really win a jackpot. It would be a better promotion for them than just adding a demo mode.
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July 31, 2023, 09:12:31 PM |
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Warning ⚠️ Trade with caution!! You're gonna keep loosing till your fat ass can't hold this shit no more, trust me. It does look like an opportunity to keep playing, but ofcourse that's why we've got demos - it's only meant to DEMONSTRATE to you,.. doesn't really mean that's how it's gonna be. On the other hand, it's serves well to entice any new era cat to the game; IMHO, slot's never been a better option to gamble with,.. it's on an 80 20% consideration and the one thing you'll do to make whole thing worse is to keep funding! P/s; ain't no free spins working lately mhan... You cracked me up!
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July 31, 2023, 09:36:01 PM |
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Depends on the game software. For example, the manufacturer Amatic in the demo version puts bonuses almost every 30 spins, but in the game for money, 500 spins and even more can go. But the games from the manufacturer Netent demo version is no different
I didn't even know about that. Isn't changing the user experience in demo mode cheating? You're promising the client a different thing from the one he'll get when he deposits money. Exactly what i was going to point out, if this providers offer one thing in the demo version of their game and then offer something else entirely in the live version, that is simply cheating, and it also means that the whole idea of games being provably fair is nothing but a sham, a big lie.. Yes, we can call it cheating, or misleading marketing practice, and this can lead some players to make deposits, thinking they'll have a similar experience when playing for real money. But they will probably claim that the demo mode is only for entertainment purposes and to give players a taste of what the game has to offer in terms of gameplay, features, and graphics. From a business perspective, it's not uncommon for game developers and providers to use demo versions as a marketing tool to attract players. Not to mention that casinos have the capability to adjust the Return to Player (RTP) on certain slot games, which can contribute to further misunderstandings. For instance, players might encounter varying experiences with the same game when playing on different casino sites.
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July 31, 2023, 10:03:50 PM |
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It's something that occurred to me as well. There are times wherein I win a lot in demo/free spins but not in the actual game. Even with small bets, I'm winning a lot and getting positive returns. It's possible that the slots in the demo/free mode are rigged so that the players will have this thought in their mind that they could have won that amount with real money. Baiting people to deposit and play with real money is morally wrong, though nothing says that it can't be used as a form of 'advertisement' either.
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I suggest that you should not think too much of the result. Don't frustrate yourself about the idea of "if". The fact that you did not win while betting with your money simply means that you don't win that amount. Don't put any meaning on the result of the slots game in demo mode. We all know that everything in slots is random so we can never be sure if you will win the amount or not unless you try. Exactly what i was going to point out, if this providers offer one thing in the demo version of their game and then offer something else entirely in the live version, that is simply cheating, and it also means that the whole idea of games being provably fair is nothing but a sham, a big lie.. I don't think that it is cheating since we all know that the house has this edge that is integrated into every game. As we all know it, if the demo game is not integrated with a house edge, and the live game is integrated with it, we must come into thinking that it will indeed have a different result. Besides as far as I can remember, many of us agreed that chance-based game result is random. So we should not think that each session with the same slot game will give the same result let alone the demo and live game. No mate, there is a big difference between the Demo version vs live games, this is because in demo mode the games are prepared to be 100% probably fairness mode and at that, the game gives you the reward at a 100% free mode but that can not be untenable while playing the live games since in live slot it you against the house and the game system is programmed in such a way that the outcome will always favour the house only on few occasions that the game the gambler gets lucky to win.
So you shouldn't be surprised to see such huge winning with just 10 spins in a demo version, because there is a big difference between the fantasy of playing a demo version vs the reality of a real live casino session.
I am curious any document or set of codes supporting this statement? I know the house had an edge that is integrated into the slot and we already know that.
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They should be different. It's a type of marketing, demo mode is a dumbed-down version of the game where the chances are most possibly skewed towards you. After all, enticing you IS their goal, they'd be dumb if they put their usual odds in that. It may be cheating their customers, but to be fair, it's not the actual game. Even if someone sues they have hundreds of ways to defend themselves most likely. It's the same with most demos, it's made to entice you. It's just the "cheating" part is more apparent when it comes to gambling games compared to others since, well, money is the main enticing method.
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July 31, 2023, 10:37:45 PM |
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~~~ Is it possible that playing slot game in demo mode has some kind of connection to playing it on live mode, like is your playing data on live mode transferred to demo mode and vice versa if at any point in time for some reason, you switch in-between those modes ?
I don't know why but for reason I kept smiling when I started to read your thread. Demo and live are not the same, when a user comes to a new casino what do you think is the first thing they'll do after they finish setting up their account? It's either they rush down to the demo account and start to check out the site if it's good for them or not. So to me I feel most demo game are designed to convince the user to play with their real cash, if you notice most times when you place a bet on a demo account it has a higher chance of winning which would make the user want to user live game in the hope of winning but in the end they'll end up with nothing except when they were lucky. I have played in demo account and have won millions of dollars there but whenever I switched to my main account I never have such amount of wins.
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July 31, 2023, 10:41:44 PM |
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I don't have strong references related to your question. so, I will only answer according to the limits that I know and also about my experience. IMO, I don't think the demo game has anything to do with the real game. for me, the demo game is just to find out and know how the game works. So, before we play a new type of slot game. we can give it a try before starting with real betting. with the demo game mode, we will find out the details of the game easily. Whatever the type of game, before we try it, it's best to play a demo, which is a good option so that we can quickly understand the type of play from the latest games. for the old type of demo game, is there anything interesting about it, that's what makes me a little confused by your question. because we already know very well how the game works. we can even buy free spins many times, without having to worry about the rewards we will get.
For me, not your adrenaline rush that we get from playing demo mode. Also, it's very likely that the demo game doesn't connect with the real game. simply put, the demo mode game is designed in such a way as to be more interesting. then, we play the real game after knowing how the game works. so, I don't have any concrete tricks and opinions for this one. but in my experience, usually the types of slot games that have just been released often provide wins compared to the old games, even though what I said is only an assumption that can be broken. but at least, I speak from the experience I got.
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Hi Gamblers , I have a question majorly for slot players.. So today, i played a slot game with a very tiny amount of money, lost it all as usually, and since i was really enjoying the game, I decided to switch to demo/free mode and continue playing, then just like one or less than two minutes into playing the game on free mode, i won this $5,994, in 10 free spins that was awarded to me , see the shot below..
----- And then, i became confused, and i began asking myself if it was possible i could have won this same amount if I had continued to play in live/paid mode ..
Those with more experience on how slot games work should please explain this..
Is it possible that playing slot game in demo mode has some kind of connection to playing it on live mode, like is your playing data on live mode transferred to demo mode and vice versa if at any point in time for some reason, you switch in-between those modes ?
Most of us would really be having that kind of impression on which on the time that we do make out some demo plays specially on slots or even on trading on which winning is something that would easy. We cant really be able to tell if the house is really just intently been doing this just to make a gambler to make out some live deposit or making use of their real money just because they would really be having those impressions that this could be happening on the time that they would be making out real bets and thinking and hoping that they would be able to hit up on the same role just like on what they have done in demo. There's no solid indication that demo plays are non fair at all and something rigged or manipulated. On the time that you do able to hit up those numbers on using demo, then it would really be just that normal for a human on having impressions that, what if i had made use of real money? Those questions would be mainly be put up into your mind on which it would be the next thing that sits in into your mindset and on the time that you would really be that desperate then this is the time that you would be having impressions that you must deposit real money next and trying out to mimic on the same situation on what you have done on demo phase which most of the time when using up real money then you do really bust up until the very end.
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July 31, 2023, 11:23:47 PM |
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I think @rahmad2nd had explained why demo games is around. It is there for us to test the mechanics of the game. To see how the slots work, how the bonus works, and all the animations and designs of the game. I also think it has nothing to do about the result and it shouldn't be compared to the live game because their purpose is different.
But going along with @OP's feeling, I also think if those demo games I played would have been in real money I would have been rich since I hit a really huge amount playing on the demo mode... and then looking at my balance, I forget about it because I am only capable of wagering less than $0.50 and the max win result will be very far from the result on the demo game which is tens to hundreds of thousands.
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