[SCAM ALERT] Stake.com missing bets from the website archive odds not matching.

[cryptogeniusdice]

Hello , Cyrus and Peers ( please this is a indetail post, please do not merge or lock )
 ( Cyrus i hope you can guide me more , as i am new over here)

Website Name : stake.com
Games : Mines

I had doubts since stake.com was looting and scamming its customer, so i started recording my game play so that i can keep track of losses on monthly bets and betting patterns of stake.com

So i came across few bets which were missing from stake.com,  these bets were placed by me 20 days ago , when i ask get the, hold of specific betid , i was in shocked. i was agitated and asked stake.com to compensate me.

For instance,

Bet id: 167247337064


This Bet id is not showing on stake.com but bet before this and after this are coming in the system . i was told this bet was archived , and i asked support to get the results from the archive file , and came to know this bet is registered under archive as played on 11 mines. ( everything attached on the screenshot )

https://postimg.cc/gallery/yB9Zg7h( they removed my image )
https://drive.google.com/file/d/19WBdS_JnP5lsd8Zou9SZg1mAw7MvPU29/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1GjHzR5Lq7SJyznRSaDH0ih_aUBQxJ-m0/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1zTk1YIT_scQoyTtfufEBQi35cUvoBaFD/view?usp=drivesdk


When i checked the archive found discrepancies with majority of my loosing bets , either the odds were high which i usually play.

However , the original result of the bet id :167247337064
 is in the link below .

https://postimg.cc/gallery/5M666wB

as this snapshot of video file cant help with quality.

And yes, i want to be compensated , till now i have not received any rely from Stake.com the support chat just states thatis above thier jurisdiction.


And you have to judge yourself , is stake.com Genuine or its just a scam wesbite after they stopped the API where you can export and verify the bets.
People saying verify the bet , on provablyfair.me dont know its the same website of one of the subsidaries of stake.com.

[logfiles]

Link one of the images you posted does not exist or was probably deleted. Link two contains 2 images that are blurry even when I tried to zoom in, so I am not sure how we outsiders are supposed to know what is wrong and right.

Maybe you can first fix the links and upload clearer images. Have you also thought about using mediators like casinoguru for your case?

[cryptogeniusdice]

Link one of the images you posted does not exist or was probably deleted. Link two contains 2 images that are blurry even when I tried to zoom in, so I am not sure how we outsiders are supposed to know what is wrong and right.

Maybe you can first fix the links and upload clearer images. Have you also thought about using mediators like casinoguru for your case?

I apologize stake.com or someone reported that image , let me upload on google drive.

[cryptogeniusdice]

Link one of the images you posted does not exist or was probably deleted. Link two contains 2 images that are blurry even when I tried to zoom in, so I am not sure how we outsiders are supposed to know what is wrong and right.

Maybe you can first fix the links and upload clearer images. Have you also thought about using mediators like casinoguru for your case?

can you check now

[cryptogeniusdice]

Where are you dear ? Still you wanna explain your shit about provably fair ??

@Stunna



please some tag Stunna here.....

[shasan]

I apologize stake.com or someone reported that image , let me upload on google drive.

It is the wrong idea of you that the image of you has been reported by someone or by the stake. Because the image has been removed either for the image uploader or your image to be posted or the link removed as you are a newbie. And yes, I noticed your image on google drive is fine.

[cryptogeniusdice]

I apologize stake.com or someone reported that image , let me upload on google drive.

It is the wrong idea of you that the image of you has been reported by someone or by the stake. Because the image has been removed either for the image uploader or your image to be posted or the link removed as you are a newbie. And yes, I noticed your image on google drive is fine.

The thing is stake.com is scamming people by changing odds in background and thus deleting the bets.

[logfiles]

I apologize stake.com or someone reported that image , let me upload on google drive.

Or postimg.cc just deleted them. If stake.com wanted them deleted, then I believe the second set of images wouldn't have been spared, too.

can you check now

Seen them, but the first set only tells half of the story. The second set is still blurry.

please some tag Stunna here.....

Stunna has been offline since 15th July, but he usually responds to such issues when he is back. I will send him a PM.

Have you also thought about using mediators like casinoguru for your case?

You didn't respond.

[cryptogeniusdice]

I apologize stake.com or someone reported that image , let me upload on google drive.

Or postimg.cc just deleted them. If stake.com wanted them deleted, then I believe the second set of images wouldn't have been spared, too.

can you check now

Seen them, but the first set only tells half of the story. The second set is still blurry.

please some tag Stunna here.....

Stunna has been offline since 15th July, but he usually responds to such issues when he is back. I will send him a PM.

Have you also thought about using mediators like casinoguru for your case?

You didn't respond.



 I dont know about that , please guide me.

[cryptogeniusdice]

I apologize stake.com or someone reported that image , let me upload on google drive.

Or postimg.cc just deleted them. If stake.com wanted them deleted, then I believe the second set of images wouldn't have been spared, too.

can you check now

Seen them, but the first set only tells half of the story. The second set is still blurry.

please some tag Stunna here.....

Stunna has been offline since 15th July, but he usually responds to such issues when he is back. I will send him a PM.

Have you also thought about using mediators like casinoguru for your case?

You didn't respond.

Its not easy to record and show in Ipad, i have recorded each and everything on free version of software , but you can make out the numbers. the odds placed and the odds registered on the bet archive are totally different.

[logfiles]

I dont know about that , please guide me.

Basically, it's a place where you can file a complaint about a casino if you have an unresolved dispute. The casino analysts from CasinoGuru will act as mediators between you and the representatives of the casino in question, with both of you having to present evidence to support your argument

Before you open a complaint, make sure you have very clear evidence that you were scammed. Blurry images won't cut it, and you will obviously lose the case.

https://casino.guru/complaints/create

Or you could just wait for Stunna to come back and respond to this thread.

[cryptogeniusdice]

I dont know about that , please guide me.

Basically, it's a place where you can file a complaint about a casino if you have an unresolved dispute. The casino analysts from CasinoGuru will act as mediators between you and the representatives of the casino in question, with both of you having to present evidence to support your argument

Before you open a complaint, make sure you have very clear evidence that you were scammed. Blurry images won't cut it, and you will obviously lose the case.

https://casino.guru/complaints/create

Or you could just wait for Stunna to come back and respond to this thread.

the reason its blurry because its from a video file , i dont have better quality than that. you can seethe betid still visiblr
e.

[ryzaadit]

-snip-

You are wasting time responding to him, he want to blackmailed casino asking 1,000,000$.

He doesn't understand how the provably fair work, @OP keep in mind how many bombs you are choosing not gonna affect your result. Mines work is generated roll number based on (RTP) from your client seed, server seed, and nonce you are using.

Mines will generate roll the first (24 numbers came out) from 25 numbers, and these is gonna to be use for the bomb show up.

Example:

Server Seed: 8a815383b0c01f8aaba57043d90eb42e6e5ffb85a6a8d40b7adab04a8e8324ba
Client Seed: 3MXj6Uy1kL
Nonce: 40

Result Roll Generated: 8, 24, 13, 5, 18, 1, 20, 16, 3, 19, 25, 22, 14, 2, 12, 17, 23, 11, 10, 15, 7, 4, 6, 21
If sort from lowest to number: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25

Result check from: https://provablefair.altervista.org/


Result: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25

Why these site and the top not showing 8,24,13...... It's because they using sort system number from lowest to higher meanwhile the site in the top not. You can see same result (9) are not in the roll meaning the last number are don't have bomb.
That result is generated by 24 first number came out for 24 bombs. If you choose 2 bomb, that's mean box number (8, 24) are the box with bomb. (Same seed, client seed, nonce) just different (how many bomb) you are choosing still same. NOT GONNA TO EFFECT THE RESULT.

I'm not probably fair geeks, at least I know how this work is on-going. Meanwhile you don't know anything, how many bomb you are choosing are not gonna to effect the result. They just showing bomb, based the result fist 24 number came out from 25 number.

You are not gonna to give the reason anymore https://www.provablyfair.me/ result cannot be trusted becasause owned by stake. Now I give you a result from other provably fair site from: https://provablefair.altervista.org/

Next time learn first for talking, all people in gambling board and most of DT in (scam) assumtion tired for your stupid. Get a jobs, if you want 1,000,000$! The most HYPOCRITE thing about YOU is, saying these CASINO SCAM over 2 month (BUT YOU STILL PLAYING UNTIL NOW ON THERE).

[cryptogeniusdice]

-snip-

You are wasting time responding to him, he want to blackmailed casino asking 1,000,000$.

He doesn't understand how the provably fair work, @OP keep in mind how many bombs you are choosing not gonna affect your result. Mines work is generated roll number based on (RTP) from your client seed, server seed, and nonce you are using.

Mines will generate roll the first (24 numbers came out) from 25 numbers, and these is gonna to be use for the bomb show up.

Example:
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/03/Gar1W.png
Server Seed: 8a815383b0c01f8aaba57043d90eb42e6e5ffb85a6a8d40b7adab04a8e8324ba
Client Seed: 3MXj6Uy1kL
Nonce: 40

Result Roll Generated: 8, 24, 13, 5, 18, 1, 20, 16, 3, 19, 25, 22, 14, 2, 12, 17, 23, 11, 10, 15, 7, 4, 6, 21
If sort from lowest to number: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25

Result check from: https://provablefair.altervista.org/
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/03/Ga1eJ.png

Result: 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7, 8, 10, 11, 12, 13, 14, 15, 16, 17, 18, 19, 20, 21, 22, 23, 24, 25

Why these site and the top not showing 8,24,13...... It's because they using sort system number from lowest to higher meanwhile the site in the top not. You can see same result (9) are not in the roll meaning the last number are don't have bomb.
That result is generated by 24 first number came out for 24 bombs. If you choose 2 bomb, that's mean box number (8, 24) are the box with bomb. (Same seed, client seed, nonce) just different (how many bomb) you are choosing still same. NOT GONNA TO EFFECT THE RESULT.
https://talkimg.com/images/2023/08/03/GacGC.png
I'm not probably fair geeks, at least I know how this work is on-going. Meanwhile you don't know anything, how many bomb you are choosing are not gonna to effect the result. They just showing bomb, based the result fist 24 number came out from 25 number.

You are not gonna to give the reason anymore https://www.provablyfair.me/ result cannot be trusted becasause owned by stake. Now I give you a result from other provably fair site from: https://provablefair.altervista.org/

Next time learn first for talking, all people in gambling board and most of DT in (scam) assumtion tired for your stupid. Get a jobs, if you want 1,000,000$! The most HYPOCRITE thing about YOU is, saying these CASINO SCAM over 2 month (BUT YOU STILL PLAYING UNTIL NOW ON THERE).

you dumbfuck, you dont know what I am talking,

the bets are missing on stake.com , go ahead and try for 167247337064
when pulled on betarchive the odds stated over there and odds placed on my video do not match.
the odds on betarchive states 11 mines, while on the video is 2 mines.
its my work or my business to play or not , why the hell you are advocating for stake.com
Even their support stated for bet 167247337064 the odds stated were 11 mines, but i have photographic and videographic evidence that it was placed with 2 mines

[Pmalek]

As logfiles mentioned, submit an official complaint with a 3rd party mediator if you believe you have a valid case. Opening multiple threads about the same issue isn't going to solve anything. Tagging Cyrus or theymos in your posts isn't going to help either. If you read the forum rules, you would see that scams on Bitcointalk aren't moderated by the admins. Asking them to ban or delete something due to what you believe is a scam won't work and nothing is going to be done about it.

Casino Guru complaints:
https://casinoguru-en.com/complaints

AskGamblers complaints:
https://www.askgamblers.com/submit-complaint

If you file a compliant, post a link to it so that the community can follow the progress.

[ryzaadit]

-snip-

First of all stupid, you don't event read the explanation.

Bet-logs (16739xxxx) you are asking is designed by the casino (STAKE). It's just a log to easy check for you, a better explanation you get from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459921.msg62612666#msg62612666 (@CHRISBIN702).

Most important are (Seed, nonce and client seed). Just change your bomb number from 11 to 2 dumb ! like I said, how many bomb you are choose 2,11,24 are not gonna to effect the result.

Same seed, client seed, nonce on mines will generated 24 first number came out from 25 number with RTP and being used for the showed bomb (If you choose 2 bomb, the first two number came out from 24 roll are gonna to be the bomb). Off course, you can't understand my explanation because you are stupid.
- Accusing people have multi account just because wearing the same signature (like accusing @Pmalek with other account).
- Don't understand about how the provably fair work
- Most hypocrite, saying CASINO SCAM over 2-3 month but still playing on CASINO you are saying SCAM ? Gosh.
- Spaming over all the board, created multiple thread with a same topic.

NEXT TIME DON'T GAMBLE, I belive you got debt on someone ! that's why asking 1,000,000$ ~LOL. If you really2 feels that, and stand with your opinion (Go sue Stake and going to trial on courtt) oh I forget all the money has been lost by gambling incluiding life-saving & have debt to be paid.

[cryptogeniusdice]

-snip-

First of all stupid, you don't event read the explanation.

Bet-logs (16739xxxx) you are asking is designed by the casino (STAKE). It's just a log to easy check for you, a better explanation you get from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459921.msg62612666#msg62612666 (@CHRISBIN702).

Most important are (Seed, nonce and client seed). Just change your bomb number from 11 to 2 dumb ! like I said, how many bomb you are choose 2,11,24 are not gonna to effect the result.

Same seed, client seed, nonce on mines will generated 24 first number came out from 25 number with RTP and being used for the showed bomb (If you choose 2 bomb, the first two number came out from 24 roll are gonna to be the bomb). Off course, you can't understand my explanation because you are stupid.
- Accusing people have multi account just because wearing the same signature (like accusing @Pmalek with other account).
- Don't understand about how the provably fair work
- Most hypocrite, saying CASINO SCAM over 2-3 month but still playing on CASINO you are saying SCAM ? Gosh.
- Spaming over all the board, created multiple thread with a same topic.

NEXT TIME DON'T GAMBLE, I belive you got debt on someone ! that's why asking 1,000,000$ ~LOL. If you really2 feels that, and stand with your opinion (Go sue Stake and going to trial on courtt) oh I forget all the money has been lost by gambling incluiding life-saving & have debt to be paid.

Again a dumbfuck, provably fair is non in question over here as the odds sre different registered on the website. on user interface the odds are different , not for one bet but multiple bets. i have checked the archive bets as well.
.
yes i dont event in your post. first learn to write on post.
- the bet id is showing no bet found , you dumb fuck , dont teach me how to find a bet on stake.c
- if you have a anus that doesnt means you shit on anyother post. the question here is not wbout provably but manipulated odds against a player is playing. no the provably fair result of missing bets is not adding up you dumbfuck as the odds are diffrent on bet archive
- another question since you are advocating for stake.com , why do only certain bets have dissappeared or archived  , nor the bets before that nor the bets after that.
-its my personal problem if i play for 3 months or year none of your fucking business, if i am testing a casino I know what I am doing.
- its not your personal problem advocating for stake.com, while i have submitted photographic and videograohic evidence.
- next time you open your open your mouth, please share your stake statistics, you dumbfuck.
- its not about calculation its about manipulated odds which are not matching, you dumbfuck.


Another dumbfuck just trying to gather his statistics , and living in denial about the proof submitted.

[cryptogeniusdice]

-snip-

First of all stupid, you don't event read the explanation.

Bet-logs (16739xxxx) you are asking is designed by the casino (STAKE). It's just a log to easy check for you, a better explanation you get from: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5459921.msg62612666#msg62612666 (@CHRISBIN702).

Most important are (Seed, nonce and client seed). Just change your bomb number from 11 to 2 dumb ! like I said, how many bomb you are choose 2,11,24 are not gonna to effect the result.

Same seed, client seed, nonce on mines will generated 24 first number came out from 25 number with RTP and being used for the showed bomb (If you choose 2 bomb, the first two number came out from 24 roll are gonna to be the bomb). Off course, you can't understand my explanation because you are stupid.
- Accusing people have multi account just because wearing the same signature (like accusing @Pmalek with other account).
- Don't understand about how the provably fair work
- Most hypocrite, saying CASINO SCAM over 2-3 month but still playing on CASINO you are saying SCAM ? Gosh.
- Spaming over all the board, created multiple thread with a same topic.

NEXT TIME DON'T GAMBLE, I belive you got debt on someone ! that's why asking 1,000,000$ ~LOL. If you really2 feels that, and stand with your opinion (Go sue Stake and going to trial on courtt) oh I forget all the money has been lost by gambling incluiding life-saving & have debt to be paid.

No debt , unlike you asking for loan on forum. I have checked your posts man. Get a real job if you want to take loan 🤣🤣🤣 each and every month.
proud family money. inheritance.
now you will complain, wooh its not your money you just acquired.
let me tell you , its not my problem that your forefathers were lazy . its not my problem your dad was broke and didnt left you any money.

[holydarkness]

[...]
- Accusing people have multi account just because wearing the same signature (like accusing @Pmalek with other account).
[...]

That'll be me, the one OP accused of being the alt of Pmalek, LOL, another attempt of OP's to grasp at straws because his accusation didn't meet the outcome he wished [people supporting him and pressuring Stake]. I gave up with his case after his baseless accusations of motion sensor [still unexplained up to this point], name calling, and thinking anyone that who questions his evidences as people conspiring with Stake against him. And ohh, the multiple threads with same topic that it became repetitive, hard to follow any significant update, and borderline spamming the board.

Anyone suggesting him to reach CG and AG, I don't think it'll just be a waste of source. If the ruling made in favour of Stake and against OP, it's extremely quite likely OP will say CG and AG are paid by Stake, or the likes.

[cryptogeniusdice]

[...]
- Accusing people have multi account just because wearing the same signature (like accusing @Pmalek with other account).
[...]

That'll be me, the one OP accused of being the alt of Pmalek, LOL, another attempt of OP's to grasp at straws because his accusation didn't meet the outcome he wished [people supporting him and pressuring Stake]. I gave up with his case after his baseless accusations of motion sensor [still unexplained up to this point], name calling, and thinking anyone that who questions his evidences as people conspiring with Stake against him. And ohh, the multiple threads with same topic that it became repetitive, hard to follow any significant update, and borderline spamming the board.

Anyone suggesting him to reach CG and AG, I don't think it'll just be a waste of source. If the ruling made in favour of Stake and against OP, it's extremely quite likely OP will say CG and AG are paid by Stake, or the likes.

check my screenshots and then come to me mate. i was confused earlier, as i am still new to this portal.
but why we wre forgetting about the valid points and screenshot i am presenting you over here.
do you want neglect all the fact , that stake.com is cheating on mines and go on with your conspiracy that you are covering for stake. Bets are missing from stake. loosing bets. omly thise bets are archived which i lost , no bets before or after that.


if you want to cover for stake.com , just go ahead and say,.
DID YOU FIND SEARCHING FOR THE BETS YOURSELVES ON STAKE.COM, and then come back to me.