[SCAM ALERT] Stake.com missing bets from the website archive odds not matching.

[ryzaadit]

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Wow, suggest people to learn write a post meanwhile the post you are made like 5th-grade kids.

Bet ID not showing up because being archived, it's being explained by (Stake). You should ask for (client ID, sever ID, and nonce) from the Bet ID log you are asking. You said, record every bet you're made, and feel that the seed and everything are different from the video you are asking.

That's the question you should ask them:
Dear Stake
Why the client seed, and server seed you are responding on the live support are different from my data (seed ID, client, and nonce) from the section I recorded? Can you explain to me why?

Here, in my video the client seed, id and nonce are ........ from Bet ID: ...... but your respond are different with mine

That's the question you should ask.
My loan is nothing related to the topic you are asking and discussing, one thing about stupid people losing arguments is they will attack personally because there is nothing argument they can deliver. As long my loan is always paid without delay, it's fine (me and my lender are happy) ~LOL meanwhile someone begging and blackmailing 1,000,000$ dreaming stake will send him that money and at least not crying like you right now.
One more thing, in here we never covers stake, even myself complain to them for the bonus has been decreasing. Check my post history on stake, my signature fill by (Freebitco) there is no benefits for me defending stake but I still responding to these case because as a forum member trying to be neutral.
Why not just share here your (seed ID + Client seed and nonce) from the video you made? You claim that the bet you're made during your section is being recorded. Then check from 3 site
1. Stake calculation
2. https://www.provablyfair.me/
3. https://provablefair.altervista.org/

Now you have 3 option, you said site number 2 are connected with stake and not really trusted the result from there.
Last option:
- Collect proof
- Submit the proof + sue stake for cheating
- Demand compensation
- Go to trial.

Simple as that, don't forget to hire a lawyer first. In-case you don't know these things, thank you very much and good bye. If other member still responding these crying baby, I hope my fellow member not losing your cell brain.

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I know, and these also my last response ~LOL responding to typcal person like these can make me losing my brain cell.

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[cryptogeniusdice]

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Wow, suggest people to learn write a post meanwhile the post you are made like 5th-grade kids.

Bet ID not showing up because being archived, it's being explained by (Stake). You should ask for (client ID, sever ID, and nonce) from the Bet ID log you are asking. You said, record every bet you're made, and feel that the seed and everything are different from the video you are asking.

That's the question you should ask them:
Dear Stake
Why the client seed, and server seed you are responding on the live support are different from my data (seed ID, client, and nonce) from the section I recorded? Can you explain to me why?

Here, in my video the client seed, id and nonce are ........ from Bet ID: ...... but your respond are different with mine

That's the question you should ask.
My loan is nothing related to the topic you are asking and discussing, one thing about stupid people losing arguments is they will attack personally because there is nothing argument they can deliver. As long my loan is always paid without delay, it's fine (me and my lender are happy) ~LOL meanwhile someone begging and blackmailing 1,000,000$ dreaming stake will send him that money and at least not crying like you right now.
One more thing, in here we never covers stake, even myself complain to them for the bonus has been decreasing. Check my post history on stake, my signature fill by (Freebitco) there is no benefits for me defending stake but I still responding to these case because as a forum member trying to be neutral.
Why not just share here your (seed ID + Client seed and nonce) from the video you made? You claim that the bet you're made during your section is being recorded. Then check from 3 site
1. Stake calculation
2. https://www.provablyfair.me/
3. https://provablefair.altervista.org/

Now you have 3 option, you said site number 2 are connected with stake and not really trusted the result from there.
Last option:
- Collect proof
- Submit the proof + sue stake for cheating
- Demand compensation
- Go to trial.

Simple as that, don't forget to hire a lawyer first. In-case you don't know these things, thank you very much and good bye. If other member still responding these crying baby, I hope my fellow member not losing your cell brain.

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I know, and these also my last response ~LOL responding to typcal person like these can make me losing my brain cell.

when stake themselves told that odds for that bet were 11. why are you still questioning. while you can see the screenshot of me placing bet with 2 mines. the scenario stake has recorded that bet with 11 mines . Read and see screenshot.

[ryzaadit]

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I already read it, the different between me and you. You are not the one who reading the respon, I explain to you (why even stake response with 11 bomb and your bet 2 bomb) are not gonna to effect the result. I explain to you at least with easy word + picture so you can easily to understand (The concept of provably fair work on Mines Bomb Betting).

Odds (or you mean, how many bombs are chosen/shown up) are not affected the result for mines betting. They told you 11 and you said 2, just change the bomb into 2 bombs (read these first: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5461706.msg62639467#msg62639467). Read my explanation of how 24 bombs/number roll generated is still the same when you choose/change 2 / 11 / 24 bombs with the same Client Seed, ID Seed & Nonce. Because mine betting will be generated roll the first 24 numbers that came out based on RTP from 25 number and being used for the bomb show-up. That's clear, odds (or how many bombs not gonna effect: they can give u 11 bombs but when changing into 2 bomb result will be the same).

You should look or question (ID, Client Seed, Nonce) differently not how many bombs show up because is not gonna affect the result and outcome. How about, you share the (Client ID, Server Seed, and Nonce) based on your video + checked (Client Seed, Server ID, and Nonce from the responded Support Stake) and we compared the result between your data and stake data result with third parties provably fair check outcome not based (how many bombs are chosen because this one can be set up freely number and the result will be still same because mines roll generated 24 number) .

If you still don't understand, then no one is gonna help. I believe no one is responding with a better explanation about how the mines work, and clearly based on all of your explanation & video you don't know how the mines work provably fair. Last response, if you still stuborn.

[cryptogeniusdice]

again you are blabbering your own shit , when support accpeted the odds are registering differently, then why the fuck and what fuck your explaning me of calculation. you are just diverting from the topic. stake manipulates the bet.

the game result have been manipulated or changeed technically or intentionally and they accepted it , even then you are trolling on post making false propoganda by this advocating for stake.com you dumbfuck.



you dont understand simple maths. go and learn the bullshit like a stake.com supoort agent.

mines with 2 odds. probablity of opening 2 tiles is 0.843
mines with 11 odds probablity of opening 2 tiles sucessfuly is 0.286

the game result have been manipulated or changeed technically , still like you like thw owner of website still bullshitting about the calculation.

[ryzaadit]

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Insulting others doesn't win you an argument

I'm blabbering with my own shit? did you know I learn these after you talk too much? I search about the topic, and even my self found third parties provably fair check: https://provablefair.altervista.org/faucet-game/stake/mines/. With all of these things, found out how the roll number being generated by RTP, which one is imporant things and which one are not gonna to effect the result.

You bust with 2 bombs according to the box bomb from the first 2 number rolls. Unless you are busted by choosing 2 bombs not from the first 2 numbers generated by the ROL Number Generated RTP (that's called manipulation). Example:
Result Roll Generated: 8, 24, 13, 5, 18, 1, 20, 16, 3, 19, 25, 22, 14, 2, 12, 17, 23, 11, 10, 15, 7, 4, 6, 21 (24 number/24 bomb)

You choose 2 bombs, which mean the box with the bomb are box number 8 and 24. If you bust not by this box, that will be called a manipulation. Off course, I will wasting my time on these explanations because you don't understand still thinking how much total money you are losing with account Platinum II/III .

Good luck with your stupid journey genius, I hope no one responding to you anymore after my explanation. Because wasting people's time, responding to you no matter how good people with more knowledge about probably fair explanation than me. It's gonna just make us lose a brain cell.

One good quote:

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
― Mark Twain

Peace out, and stay gambling okay. I see in the video you keep deposit, deposit and deposit even more than 2 month you saying a scam + see in the notification there is no withdraw. Don't losing hope....

Fact: 90% of gambling addicts quit right before they're about to hit a jackpot, so never stop gambling.

[cryptogeniusdice]

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Insulting others doesn't win you an argument

I'm blabbering with my own shit? did you know I learn these after you talk too much? I search about the topic, and even my self found third parties provably fair check: https://provablefair.altervista.org/faucet-game/stake/mines/. With all of these things, found out how the roll number being generated by RTP, which one is imporant things and which one are not gonna to effect the result.

You bust with 2 bombs according to the box bomb from the first 2 number rolls. Unless you are busted by choosing 2 bombs not from the first 2 numbers generated by the ROL Number Generated RTP (that's called manipulation). Example:
Result Roll Generated: 8, 24, 13, 5, 18, 1, 20, 16, 3, 19, 25, 22, 14, 2, 12, 17, 23, 11, 10, 15, 7, 4, 6, 21 (24 number/24 bomb)

You choose 2 bombs, which mean the box with the bomb are box number 8 and 24. If you bust not by this box, that will be called a manipulation. Off course, I will wasting my time on these explanations because you don't understand still thinking how much total money you are losing with account Platinum II/III .

Good luck with your stupid journey genius, I hope no one responding to you anymore after my explanation. Because wasting people's time, responding to you no matter how good people with more knowledge about probably fair explanation than me. It's gonna just make us lose a brain cell.

One good quote:

“Never argue with an idiot. They will drag you down to their level and beat you with experience.”
― Mark Twain

Peace out, and stay gambling okay. I see in the video you keep deposit, deposit and deposit even more than 2 month you saying a scam + see in the notification there is no withdraw. Don't losing hope....

Fact: 90% of gambling addicts quit right before they're about to hit a jackpot, so never stop gambling.

- i withdraw also , but no notifications comes there.
- the result was manioulated on the bet archive sheet, you are not understanding a single valid point and blabeering. go get your head checked.
- it didnt matched provably fair odds on website which i placed.

you dont understand simple english , and i dont know what bs you are pooping in my post.

[cryptogeniusdice]

posted complaint on casinoguru.com

[Stalker22]

posted complaint on casinoguru.com

I assume you meant https://casino.guru/ (or alternatively https://casinoguru-en.com) and not "casinoguru.com", right?

Anyway, I think this is the correct link to your complaint: https://casino.guru/stake-casino-player-alleges-bet-manipulation-at-stake-com

The disputed amount is $30 million? Seriously?

[cryptogeniusdice]

posted complaint on casinoguru.com

I assume you meant https://casino.guru/ (or alternatively https://casinoguru-en.com) and not "casinoguru.com", right?

Anyway, I think this is the correct link to your complaint: https://casino.guru/stake-casino-player-alleges-bet-manipulation-at-stake-com

The disputed amount is $30 million? Seriously?

Actually i wanted to find INR , but couldnt find so....

[holydarkness]

posted complaint on casinoguru.com

I assume you meant https://casino.guru/ (or alternatively https://casinoguru-en.com) and not "casinoguru.com", right?

Anyway, I think this is the correct link to your complaint: https://casino.guru/stake-casino-player-alleges-bet-manipulation-at-stake-com

The disputed amount is $30 million? Seriously?

Actually i wanted to find INR , but couldnt find so....

So... you put 30,0000,000 USD instead? While your initial report to CG stated this?

[...]
i have been playing on stake since 5 years , but recently ever since they have stopped letting their customers use API , i was doubtful , that i am bleeding out of money on Mines.

My luck used to get 40 continous losses on mines once i deposit money.

so back in June i inherited about 100k usd and all dumped on mines.

and in july started recording bets on my ipad using free software and after 15 days tallying the bet results.

I found out few of the bets were missing. [...]

You can just said 100,000 USD as stated as your recent deposit in June, or perhaps even 200,000 USD, given you've been playing for 5 years --I take your word for it-- 500,000 USD is quite a far fetched but it's within the realm of... logic. But jumping to 30 million USD just because you can't find your currency? Well, I shouldn't be surprised. After all, this is not the first time you leave me speechless for a few seconds after reading your post.

That things above aside, I'll say you're doing all of us [you included] by taking it to CG, where instead of calling names and throwing accusations here that everyone is on Stake's side, you can now get them to an arbitrator that are equipped with adequate tools to verify your claim. And above all, it's Tomas who handled your case. I've seen him handle case very objectively in the past. So, good luck with them, I'll follow that thread on CG in silent.

[cryptogeniusdice]

posted complaint on casinoguru.com

I assume you meant https://casino.guru/ (or alternatively https://casinoguru-en.com) and not "casinoguru.com", right?

Anyway, I think this is the correct link to your complaint: https://casino.guru/stake-casino-player-alleges-bet-manipulation-at-stake-com

The disputed amount is $30 million? Seriously?

Actually i wanted to find INR , but couldnt find so....

So... you put 30,0000,000 USD instead? While your initial report to CG stated this?

[...]
i have been playing on stake since 5 years , but recently ever since they have stopped letting their customers use API , i was doubtful , that i am bleeding out of money on Mines.

My luck used to get 40 continous losses on mines once i deposit money.

so back in June i inherited about 100k usd and all dumped on mines.

and in july started recording bets on my ipad using free software and after 15 days tallying the bet results.

I found out few of the bets were missing. [...]

You can just said 100,000 USD as stated as your recent deposit in June, or perhaps even 200,000 USD, given you've been playing for 5 years --I take your word for it-- 500,000 USD is quite a far fetched but it's within the realm of... logic. But jumping to 30 million USD just because you can't find your currency? Well, I shouldn't be surprised. After all, this is not the first time you leave me speechless for a few seconds after reading your post.

That things above aside, I'll say you're doing all of us [you included] by taking it to CG, where instead of calling names and throwing accusations here that everyone is on Stake's side, you can now get them to an arbitrator that are equipped with adequate tools to verify your claim. And above all, it's Tomas who handled your case. I've seen him handle case very objectively in the past. So, good luck with them, I'll follow that thread on CG in silent.

I wanted put Inr 30,00,000/- , this is the way we write.
Good, follow. i hve submitted my claim to CG.

[Stalker22]

I wanted put Inr 30,00,000/- , this is the way we write.
Good, follow. i hve submitted my claim to CG.

30,000,000 INR is about 360,000.00 US Dollar, right? That is still a substantial sum for a disputed amount, and honestly, I am not sure if you really lost that much at the casino. I mean, I did not see any proof of your deposits or how much money you actually wagered. I noticed that in your complaint on casino.guru you mentioned 100k USD of your inherited money that you dumped on mines... So how did you get from 100k USD to 360k USD?

[cryptogeniusdice]

I wanted put Inr 30,00,000/- , this is the way we write.
Good, follow. i hve submitted my claim to CG.

30,000,000 INR is about 360,000.00 US Dollar, right? That is still a substantial sum for a disputed amount, and honestly, I am not sure if you really lost that much at the casino. I mean, I did not see any proof of your deposits or how much money you actually wagered. I noticed that in your complaint on casino.guru you mentioned 100k USD of your inherited money that you dumped on mines... So how did you get from 100k USD to 360k USD?

I woukd be happy to share my all deposits to tomas.

[cryptogeniusdice]

I wanted put Inr 30,00,000/- , this is the way we write.
Good, follow. i hve submitted my claim to CG.

30,000,000 INR is about 360,000.00 US Dollar, right? That is still a substantial sum for a disputed amount, and honestly, I am not sure if you really lost that much at the casino. I mean, I did not see any proof of your deposits or how much money you actually wagered. I noticed that in your complaint on casino.guru you mentioned 100k USD of your inherited money that you dumped on mines... So how did you get from 100k USD to 360k USD?

100 k is the amount i lost since May 14 th . before that my account has been active with stake.com since august 22, 2018

[holydarkness]

I wanted put Inr 30,00,000/- , this is the way we write.
Good, follow. i hve submitted my claim to CG.

30,000,000 INR is about 360,000.00 US Dollar, right? That is still a substantial sum for a disputed amount, and honestly, I am not sure if you really lost that much at the casino. I mean, I did not see any proof of your deposits or how much money you actually wagered. I noticed that in your complaint on casino.guru you mentioned 100k USD of your inherited money that you dumped on mines... So how did you get from 100k USD to 360k USD?

100 k is the amount i lost since May 14 th . before that my account has been active with stake.com since august 22, 2018

And in between those years, you never withdrawn any sums of money, never lost a bet, or the likes that allows the claim that the total funds lost prior to your inheritance deposit --nice way to spend your inheritance, by the way, now I see why you're so hell bent on accusing Stake being a scam-- is 260,000-ish USD? Or were you saying that the 360,000-ish equivalent of USD is the total amount you ever deposited to Stake, disregarding what you've withdrawn, you lost, etc.?

[cryptogeniusdice]

I did. but it was mentoined deposits only. so i mentoined the amount which specified. if you go ahead n check the drop dwn the currency are not arranged properly

[cryptogeniusdice]

I wanted put Inr 30,00,000/- , this is the way we write.
Good, follow. i hve submitted my claim to CG.

30,000,000 INR is about 360,000.00 US Dollar, right? That is still a substantial sum for a disputed amount, and honestly, I am not sure if you really lost that much at the casino. I mean, I did not see any proof of your deposits or how much money you actually wagered. I noticed that in your complaint on casino.guru you mentioned 100k USD of your inherited money that you dumped on mines... So how did you get from 100k USD to 360k USD?

100 k is the amount i lost since May 14 th . before that my account has been active with stake.com since august 22, 2018

And in between those years, you never withdrawn any sums of money, never lost a bet, or the likes that allows the claim that the total funds lost prior to your inheritance deposit --nice way to spend your inheritance, by the way, now I see why you're so hell bent on accusing Stake being a scam-- is 260,000-ish USD? Or were you saying that the 360,000-ish equivalent of USD is the total amount you ever deposited to Stake, disregarding what you've withdrawn, you lost, etc.?

stop speculating, i have mentoined what i have mentoined. its a part of my inheritance. still have it accumulating.



can you explain this

casino:166470242105 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166470048942 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166472777287  - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166473963112 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166473976786 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166473622269 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166474030950- Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166479682096 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166479674163 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166481932007 -Lost Bet -ARCHIVED - Manipulated odds
casino:166482302201 ( win and showing in the system not archived)
casino:166482500941 ( win and showing in the system not archived)


why only 166481932007 bet was archived. nor the bets before i placed this bet was archived.

[cryptogeniusdice]

I wanted put Inr 30,00,000/- , this is the way we write.
Good, follow. i hve submitted my claim to CG.

30,000,000 INR is about 360,000.00 US Dollar, right? That is still a substantial sum for a disputed amount, and honestly, I am not sure if you really lost that much at the casino. I mean, I did not see any proof of your deposits or how much money you actually wagered. I noticed that in your complaint on casino.guru you mentioned 100k USD of your inherited money that you dumped on mines... So how did you get from 100k USD to 360k USD?

100 k is the amount i lost since May 14 th . before that my account has been active with stake.com since august 22, 2018

And in between those years, you never withdrawn any sums of money, never lost a bet, or the likes that allows the claim that the total funds lost prior to your inheritance deposit --nice way to spend your inheritance, by the way, now I see why you're so hell bent on accusing Stake being a scam-- is 260,000-ish USD? Or were you saying that the 360,000-ish equivalent of USD is the total amount you ever deposited to Stake, disregarding what you've withdrawn, you lost, etc.?

stop speculating, i have mentoined what i have mentoined. its a part of my inheritance. still have it accumulating.



can you explain this

casino:166470242105 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166470048942 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166472777287  - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166473963112 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166473976786 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166473622269 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166474030950- Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166479682096 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166479674163 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166481932007 -Lost Bet -ARCHIVED - Manipulated odds
casino:166482302201 ( win and showing in the system not archived)
casino:166482500941 ( win and showing in the system not archived)


why only 166481932007 bet was archived. nor the bets before i placed this bet was archived.

now when i ask correct question, there would be no response from you .

i placed 9 bets before the archoved bet those were never archived. why the bet 166481932007 was archived.
Coz the archive bets were entered in the system with incorrect odds.

[holydarkness]

I did. but it was mentoined deposits only. so i mentoined the amount which specified. if you go ahead n check the drop dwn the currency are not arranged properly

stop speculating, i have mentoined what i have mentoined. its a part of my inheritance. still have it accumulating.



can you explain this

casino:166470242105 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166470048942 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166472777287  - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166473963112 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166473976786 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166473622269 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166474030950- Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166479682096 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166479674163 - Lost Bet - not archived - True odds
casino:166481932007 -Lost Bet -ARCHIVED - Manipulated odds
casino:166482302201 ( win and showing in the system not archived)
casino:166482500941 ( win and showing in the system not archived)


why only 166481932007 bet was archived. nor the bets before i placed this bet was archived.

now when i ask correct question, there would be no response from you .

i placed 9 bets before the archoved bet those were never archived. why the bet 166481932007 was archived.
Coz the archive bets were entered in the system with incorrect odds.

Hmm... have you tried to consider why when you ask correct question, there would be no response from me, or anyone else, is because you demanded a response around six minutes after you posted? Where, the post itself, was made one minute after an earlier post? Contrary to what you may think and believe, the forum did not revolve around you and stand by 24/7 for you.

Further, I am not sure if I or anyone else ever informed you --and by the numbers of your threads, it's hard to keep track what's already said and what's not-- that consecutive posts are highly frowned by moderators? Make one post and if you feel the need to add more info, add them through edit.

Now, onto your matter, those list... have you tried ryzaadit's suggestion here? While for the amount being stated on CG, I think they're asking for amount disputed, not deposited?

[...]
Could you please advise what the disputed amount of 30 million dollars represents in this situation?
[...]

[cryptogeniusdice]

if you read my comments you can find i was searching for INR BUT couldnt find as they have not arranged alphabeticLly.m


instead of investigating me like stake investigator. why dont you ask stunna , who is missing since 15 th july on this portal ever since i send her an email regarding the malpractices.



yes i tried it. why dont you answer question regarding the bet list which is given. why only one bet is archived in set of bets before and after is visible. when i checked the mines are 11. even the support confirmed twice the mines are 11. what else do you need mate ??

i play progressively like martingale on mines , so even each loss on mines manipulated bet affects my gameplay. from 4 th to 15 july i have found somewhat 174-189.