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August 03, 2023, 05:02:37 PM
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The American dream in our country was to have a decent place to live, a good income, a healthy life and a happy family. If one had that, they were considering happy. Now I said was, because that was the dream, but now it has changed. Our government is ruining our country. In thirst for power, the government is taking whatever means possible. In that process, we civilians are suffering the most. Recent inflation has put this country in a situation where we are unable to even eat 3 times properly. I know it's a political matter but as it is affecting the economy, I guess we can discuss it here. Now back to the topic. The economy is suffering like crazy. And the over population problem has left us with more competition and poverty. We can not dream to become successful here. So the young generation is trying to leave the country in search of becoming successful. Now the dream is to leave the country and go somewhere where we can become successful. That's the version of America dream in here.
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August 04, 2023, 12:07:08 AM
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what is its version of the American dream and does it still exist? Is it still achieveable or attainable?
In my country, which reflects on America, is far away from expectations because of differences in culture and systems. Our government is trying to be like the American system, but the habits of people and the economy become a barrier to moving forward. Our officials are very fond of corruption and Our official is really don't care about the progress of their nation, so progress in our country is be like walk on the spot, even tend to go backward. We are as citizens confused on how to go forward, many left to another country for just try change their fate.

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August 04, 2023, 01:59:45 AM
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what is its version of the American dream and does it still exist? Is it still achieveable or attainable?
In my country, which reflects on America, is far away from expectations because of differences in culture and systems. Our government is trying to be like the American system, but the habits of people and the economy become a barrier to moving forward. Our officials are very fond of corruption and Our official is really don't care about the progress of their nation, so progress in our country is be like walk on the spot, even tend to go backward. We are as citizens confused on how to go forward, many left to another country for just try change their fate.

I think a lot of people from different countries goes to America just to achieve that American Dream because they know it will be near impossible to have that in their own country. Mostly because of the lack of opportunities and the state of their country's economy. Hence, the number of people moving to America is a lot.

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August 04, 2023, 03:00:41 AM
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The core essence  of American dream is providing equal opportunities for every citizen irrespective of their religion, race, color or back ground.This idealistic vision has been adopted by politicians in almost every country, including my own, as a rallying cry during election campaigns. however, the harsh reality is that, nepotism pervades is spread in every sector of economy favoring connections over merit and qualifications.
Oh no, it's deeper than nepotism, more like corruption in my opinion because in some way nepotism can be a good thing when you know that the family that runs the country isn't running it to the ground and enslaving it's people. It's corruption from power and money that destroys the "American Dream" that many are trying to chase. It's a pretty idea, that's why the politicians promise that they will be the bringer of that dream when we all know that it's not going to happen, I think that this kind of system of false promises is in part the fault of the people who vote these politicians into power, if we were to carefully choose someone based on merit and competency and not because they have a way with words and they promise big stuff then I think that we're going to be off to a good start.

Regarding American Dream, I don't really believe it. I'll just leave to you what George Carlin says about the American Dream.

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August 04, 2023, 05:55:17 PM
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With a high unemployment rate, housing crises, increasing student debts, inflation, recession, wars, famine, high interest rates and all those factors that affect the economic mobility of many families both in America and all over the world threatening to wipe out the middle class, would we still say that  the American Dream exist? Is it still achieveable or attainable?
Many people in developing nations will gladly move to the US even with the current issues the country is facing. For them security, food, shelter, and a low-playing job is enough for them. At least in the US, the unemployed are given some stipends to meet some of their basic needs. Living in most of these third-world nations is like staying in hell. In my country, the middle class is almost disappearing because the gap between the rich and poor keeps widening every day because of corruption. For me, the American dream exists because almost everyone I know that moved to the US from my country is not doing badly financially. America rewards hard work and if you are diligent, you will be financially stable.

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Secondly every country in the world has some version of their American dream, if your country does, what is its version of the American dream and does it still exist? Is it still achievable or attainable?
For the poor in my country, the version of the American dream will be survival dream. If you have enough funds to pay for house rent, buy food, and clothing, and pay medical bills and school fees, you are living the American dream. Surviving in my country has become so expensive that only a few people can afford it.

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August 04, 2023, 11:35:17 PM
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I guess the American dream in my country would mean a six figure income, a house, car and a beautiful family. This is how little it takes to be “happy” in my country. Everyone has their own interpretation of what the American dream is, for some it represents freedom; for others it represents financial opportunities that can only be achieved America, many across the world have been sold on this idea, that’s why there are migrants struggling to get past the US border just so they have their shot at the American dream.

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but america has not ever had a female president yet wants to pretend to be equal rights.. oops buzzword "equity"
that's not how you measure if women have equal rights franky. update your measuring method.


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shame that then a bunch of men tell women they cant make decisions over their own wombs content
why is that a shame? someone has to lay down the law about what is right and what is wrong. murder is a very serious thing franky so of course it is a controversial issue... Shocked

womens have plenty of rights over their own body just once it gets to a certain stage, there's more than just them to consider. there's also something inside of them that might be viable outside of the womb. as technology progresses, that viability date will become earlier and earlier.

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Unfortunately, there's no such version here in my country. Perhaps what we have is, "You're on your own." LOL!

The dream to have a good life is oftentimes left to each one of us here. In some countries, your dream is supported in many ways by your government. It's on a personal level even. Here in my highly agricultural country, the government cannot even bring down the price of rice.

Many of my countrymen will have to leave his/her family in order to pursue a greener pasture overseas. To many, the dream can only be reached abroad.

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To OP and anyone else who hasn't realized it yet, the whole concept of an "American Dream" was sparked in somebody's head, got its 15 minutes of fame but is now just a quaint notion in some people's heads of how things used to be in the good ol' days.

Life in America isn't what it was like in the 50s-60s, where mom was a housekeeper and dad worked for 40 years at the same company, invested conservatively, and the family owned a house, a car, a dog, and all that happy horseshit.  Christ, just look at what Hollywood has done to Superman with the Man of Steel movie.  That ought to be a bright red flashing indicator light that pessimism has permeated every corner, crack, and crevice in society.

And in other countries?  I'm reading replies but as usual I can't tell who's actually thinking about this topic and who's just counting how many characters their fingers are typing.  IMO the concept never did and never will exist outside the minds of Americans.

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August 05, 2023, 05:23:23 AM
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The core essence  of American dream is providing equal opportunities for every citizen irrespective of their religion, race, color or back ground.This idealistic vision has been adopted by politicians in almost every country, including my own, as a rallying cry during election campaigns. however, the harsh reality is that, nepotism pervades is spread in every sector of economy favoring connections over merit and qualifications.

Even within United States the American dream is subject to criticism due to widening gap between rich and poor.
It's not only about rich and poor, America is definitely not what it used to be in the past, there is too much racism in America in current times, and I've seen that a lot of times on social media, in social experiments videos, in videos where people interact with each other from different places using platforms such as Omegle, it's everywhere. Whenever an American encounters a stranger, if they are black, or they are Muslim, or from Asia or something, they will start to pass racist statements.

However, the reality might be different since I've not been there myself, but it has always been my dream to go there once, but all these things have made me have a different perspective about the country and the people there. I might still go one day, and I hope I can see that what I've seen and heard isn't true.
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Secondly every country in the world has some version of their American dream, if your country does, what is its version of the American dream and does it still exist? Is it still achieveable or attainable?



I always found the American dream a nice motivation for people to try and be successful. Working yourself up from a dish washer or the mail room to become a millionaire is one of the greatest success stories that shows everybody can make it. Unfortunately in my country we don't really have the goal of becoming rich, over here it's more about living a good and happy life. In my country there are two mottos that my parents and grandparents lived by. The first one is to save as much money as possible so you have a good life during retirement. Instead of treating yourself today and enjoying life, it's all about working hard and for planning down the road 30 years from now. The other saying is that there is an insurance for every risk. People are very risk averse and love to take out insurance for any possible situation. This again prevents you from enjoying life today, because you have to pay all the insurances. You can spend all your life paying premiums for worse case scenarios that never happen, just so that you sleep better. The big problem for me is that being afraid of risk also means that you won't invest your money and rather leave it at the bank in a savings account. That's why the goal of becoming a millionaire is not really an option.
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August 07, 2023, 12:05:31 AM
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That's why the goal of becoming a millionaire is not really an option.
A millionaire is not all its cracked up to be. Say you have $1,000,000. You can't spend any of it because if you do you're not a millionaire anymore. So you put it into a savings account making 3% per year. Congratulations you just got yourself an income of $30,000 per year. Probably need to pay state and local taxes on that though. People that work minimum wage jobs make more than that. In the USA.
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August 07, 2023, 02:17:14 AM
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The American Dream. What is Your Country's Version of it? 

We don't have version of it. A 3rd world country with a lot of power hungry corrupt politicians a and business men, I don't think there will be an equal opportunity for everyone here to achieve success and financial stability. This translates as to why this country is struggling, people here are struggling to survive. We only work to have something to eat every single day. Most of the people here are working as hard as they could to catch up with the bills, mortgages, and other expenses. The same reason why a lot of people here are eager to find that American Dream overseas even if it means they need to sacrifice being with their families just to make that dream alive.

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August 07, 2023, 05:38:01 AM
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Since I was born, I have never heard anything like a country dream. We only have personal goals and aspirations. Which goes something like this, the parents make all the sacrifices to raise the kids and put them through school, the kids go to school, graduate, get a well paying job with job security, and should be able to return the favour by caring for their parents who are now aged and their younger siblings (if any). Note that the last statement is what we look forward to. This is sort of our version of the American dream. Unfortunately, it's getting difficult to achieve due to economic set backs. When these kids graduate from university they may wait for up to 5 years to get a job and within this time they are most likely to still be dependent on their parents who are already getting old. If you ever wondered why Nigeria is top 10 in countries when Bitcoin is talked about, that's one of the reasons right there.

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August 07, 2023, 09:21:29 AM
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Since I was born, I have never heard anything like a country dream. We only have personal goals and aspirations. Which goes something like this, the parents make all the sacrifices to raise the kids and put them through school, the kids go to school, graduate, get a well paying job with job security, and should be able to return the favour by caring for their parents who are now aged and their younger siblings (if any). Note that the last statement is what we look forward to. This is sort of our version of the American dream. Unfortunately, it's getting difficult to achieve due to economic set backs. When these kids graduate from university they may wait for up to 5 years to get a job and within this time they are most likely to still be dependent on their parents who are already getting old. If you ever wondered why Nigeria is top 10 in countries when Bitcoin is talked about, that's one of the reasons right there.

In contrast to this, I noticed in my country kids are getting more and more aggressive towards financial independence meaning teenagers are now more focused in earning a better life for themselves. More and more are moving out of their parents' homes and are finding ways to earn for themselves. Perhaps it really is different in different countries.

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August 08, 2023, 08:05:38 PM
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The American dream in our country was to have a decent place to live, a good income, a healthy life and a happy family. If one had that, they were considering happy. Now I said was, because that was the dream, but now it has changed. Our government is ruining our country. In thirst for power, the government is taking whatever means possible. In that process, we civilians are suffering the most. Recent inflation has put this country in a situation where we are unable to even eat 3 times properly. I know it's a political matter but as it is affecting the economy, I guess we can discuss it here. Now back to the topic. The economy is suffering like crazy. And the over population problem has left us with more competition and poverty. We can not dream to become successful here. So the young generation is trying to leave the country in search of becoming successful. Now the dream is to leave the country and go somewhere where we can become successful. That's the version of America dream in here.
I think that the American Dream is only just an expression and not only specific to American country. Almost all of us has their own American Dreams. It's hard to have all the things that you listed but I think many of us have at least one of it but its not yet enough to consider an American Dream. Maybe it is only once we have all of those however we can still be happy. It's sad to hear the situation in your country but don't lose hope just yet.

The current government can still be replaced or you can just migrate to other better countries. It's okay to not eat 3 times a day. There's even some who hardly ate because they are dieting. It also helps us to save money.

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August 10, 2023, 12:59:52 PM
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After an official report that America experienced economic difficulties, I thought Arab countries like Kuwait, the United Arab Emirates and others were my dreams, where the lives of people were very advanced, many free things given by the government so that living in the Union Emirates was a dream that I wanted to realize.


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