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August 25, 2023, 01:03:34 PM
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I am just going to quote myself, "But we need to keep only those who are good. Not the bad ones." And who are those good ones? Yeah, they are family, friends and loved ones. But when it comes to seeking help from a professional person, that's where this doesn't apply. And sharing personal things with strangers! Of course, it will backfire. Why would you share that in the first place?

Asking for help is good advice. But in case of gambling addiction, the addicted doesn't understand it until it's too late. So he may not be able to seek help in the first place. That why loved ones and people close to us would be able to understand it by our behavior. So keeping good connection with people around us is a must.
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August 25, 2023, 01:11:32 PM
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I don't understand how disabling gambling websites from browser settings can actually stop gambling addiction when you are literally the one who does it and you can obviously undo it anytime you want. It might work if the addict is someone else and you manage to disable all the gambling sites from their device and they might not be able to find out what's wrong, but still, I believe they will find a way to reach the sites, maybe reinstall the browser or something.
The thing is, gambling website isn't only one, browser isn't only one, if the casino block your IP address you can use VPN, etc. It means there are many ways to reach gambling website, it's too naive to think someone will not gamble after they block the gambling site.

It's not about limiting their activity, but they need have a faith and strong goal of the reason they're stop to gamble.

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August 25, 2023, 01:15:27 PM
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You are right most all the person have a smartphone all of the people may use online gambling as they have a smartphone as well as the internet. Actually, it has increased since online gambling started. People started gambling over time passing but later they become addicted.

Indeed, smartphones make it easy for people to be able to access various games at casinos without the need to be tired of going to places, but that also has the negative impact which increases the potential for people's addiction to gambling because it is so easy to be able to access games and they cannot control their time where it makes them addicted and forget about their priorities.
It will depend on how that person controls the use of his smartphone because, in this case, a person must really be able to overcome his curiosity to visit gambling sites. But most of those who have high curiosity are young people who are new to using smartphones and don't really know about the dangers of gambling. In addition, the social factor of their peers is also very influential because if they associate with peers who are not good, they will also become bad. We have seen how quickly young people become addicted to playing games, and we can't imagine if they get to know gambling from their friends. They will use the money for gambling.

Only the self-control that their parents have taught them can prevent them from browsing sites that are dangerous or can have a bad impact on them. At such a young age, it is necessary to understand many things, including bad things, so they can stay away from them and not use them like their other friends.

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August 25, 2023, 02:22:32 PM
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You are right most all the person have a smartphone all of the people may use online gambling as they have a smartphone as well as the internet. Actually, it has increased since online gambling started. People started gambling over time passing but later they become addicted.

Indeed, smartphones make it easy for people to be able to access various games at casinos without the need to be tired of going to places, but that also has the negative impact which increases the potential for people's addiction to gambling because it is so easy to be able to access games and they cannot control their time where it makes them addicted and forget about their priorities.
It will depend on how that person controls the use of his smartphone because, in this case, a person must really be able to overcome his curiosity to visit gambling sites. But most of those who have high curiosity are young people who are new to using smartphones and don't really know about the dangers of gambling. In addition, the social factor of their peers is also very influential because if they associate with peers who are not good, they will also become bad. We have seen how quickly young people become addicted to playing games, and we can't imagine if they get to know gambling from their friends. They will use the money for gambling.

Only the self-control that their parents have taught them can prevent them from browsing sites that are dangerous or can have a bad impact on them. At such a young age, it is necessary to understand many things, including bad things, so they can stay away from them and not use them like their other friends.

And besides that, in terms of time, it can greatly influence a person to move in gambling, such as for example they have a lot of free time and as we know that our curiosity always encourages gambling when we have a lot of free time, they will always fantasize about a victory. And I also agree that most of those who enter the addiction zone are those who are still underage, as we know that those who are young have a very high curiosity in any case including gambling itself. Now gambling seems to be very commonplace in the eyes of society and it is not uncommon for me to see some of them who think that this activity is normal with the times, and also on the other hand gambling can enter from anywhere but I would say that social media and also maybe the surrounding environment will be the main factors that can influence someone to enter gambling. If we have friends who like to gamble, then it will be very likely that we will also be carried away there with associations that are of course wrong. Moreover, gambling is about money, everyone needs money and if there are some of them who have a high level of curiosity then I think they will have the opportunity to then fall into it. Gambling is just about luck which is uncertain.

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August 25, 2023, 02:31:23 PM
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I don't understand how disabling gambling websites from browser settings can actually stop gambling addiction when you are literally the one who does it and you can obviously undo it anytime you want. It might work if the addict is someone else and you manage to disable all the gambling sites from their device and they might not be able to find out what's wrong, but still, I believe they will find a way to reach the sites, maybe reinstall the browser or something.
The thing is, gambling website isn't only one, browser isn't only one, if the casino block your IP address you can use VPN, etc. It means there are many ways to reach gambling website, it's too naive to think someone will not gamble after they block the gambling site.

It's not about limiting their activity, but they need have a faith and strong goal of the reason they're stop to gamble.
Stopping an addiction has everything to do with personal decision, will power and determination to stop the addiction , all this advice like block your self from this or that , have little to no effect at all .

I used to have a friend who was addicted to gambling like crazy , he was told how to set his browser to block both gambling casino websites and gambling ads , he did all that, but at the end of the day, when the urge to gamble comes, he will turn the damn software off and gamble his money all out , then turn the software back on when he has already lost money and regretting , later , he was told to self exclude himself from all the casinos he's using , he did that , but still end up creating another account with a different email address when the urge comes ...

Until he made the decision ,and applied the will power and determination to quit , he never did quit .

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August 25, 2023, 02:37:52 PM
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Gambling addiction is best solved by having gambling budget which is very small to the amount you are earning, like 5% of the 100% you are earning.

Responsible gambling comes from inside you and how you discipline yourself, it is not about ads or anything.

But generally you should block ads, not just gambling ads, but because they are all frustrating. You can use ad blockers to block ads.
A small budget can save a person from gambling addiction, but a daily or weekly limit on gambling can also be a good solution. A gambler is deeply addicted to gambling when he gambles excessively and can make some profit from it. At first some profit motivates them to gamble more due to which he can't control himself and gambles to win more amount and the result is very terrible because panic gambling has more chance of loss than profit so gamble Always keep yourself in a routine to protect yourself from deep addiction


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August 25, 2023, 02:47:40 PM
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Only the self-control that their parents have taught them can prevent them from browsing sites that are dangerous or can have a bad impact on them. At such a young age, it is necessary to understand many things, including bad things, so they can stay away from them and not use them like their other friends.
Yes, the role of parents is important for their children, even so, young people who are educated by their parents to stay away from drugs and gambling may be a lot out there, but not all young people follow the directions of their parents. normal young blood always want to know more so that it becomes an experience for himself in the future.

I was also a young person before where I was directed by my parents to stay away from gambling and drug sites at that time so that my curiosity was not too high about it, maybe for gambling I recently tried gambling when I had money from my salary and as an adult I have a job, I can do it as long as I can control myself but if I can't I won't play gambling, if I have children I will definitely educate them properly away from dangerous sites and sites that contain gambling. taught him to control himself. just like my parents taught me first.

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Yes, this is why its not really that totally sensible if you are really that making or drawing out conclusions that some people are irresponsible or simply that dumb just not to make themselves quit without even trying out to

picture yourself that what if you are in his shoes? For sure you cant really be able to apply those things that you do have in mind or something in related with those common advises and recommendations in fighting addiction.It might be that impossible for someone not to be able to be wary about their actions but there are really moments on which you cant really be able to make yourself get in control with your emotions.
This would really be mainly your opponent or problem on the time that emotions would kicking in. Addiction with gambling is never been that a simple thing to get rid off with.

This is why its always be that recommendable that you should gamble with care and be responsible on spending on the amount on which you can afford to lose. Dont go into a certain extent on which you would really be that having that impulsive spending just because your emotions had been messed up.
It's definitely not a game for the weak of heart, and I've been involved in the whole thing. But let's be clear about one thing: you are correct when you suggest that people don't always recognize the full extent of addiction. Someone is neither weak or stupid only because they have faced difficulties. It's simple to be an armchair quarterback and advise someone on how to handle their situation

A someone who has been in their situation would understand that it's not as easy as "just quitting." Sentiment? Without a doubt, they are quite important. Logic sometimes gets pushed aside when things get tough and you're under pressure

It's crucial to gamble sensibly. Remember to never wager more than you can lose. However, keep in mind that each person has a unique threshold. A support network and self-awareness are crucial, even though emotions can cloud our judgment. Know when to leave, keep your circle small, and be aware of the risks

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August 25, 2023, 04:57:50 PM
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Only the self-control that their parents have taught them can prevent them from browsing sites that are dangerous or can have a bad impact on them. At such a young age, it is necessary to understand many things, including bad things, so they can stay away from them and not use them like their other friends.
Yes, the role of parents is important for their children, even so, young people who are educated by their parents to stay away from drugs and gambling may be a lot out there, but not all young people follow the directions of their parents. normal young blood always want to know more so that it becomes an experience for himself in the future.

I was also a young person before where I was directed by my parents to stay away from gambling and drug sites at that time so that my curiosity was not too high about it, maybe for gambling I recently tried gambling when I had money from my salary and as an adult I have a job, I can do it as long as I can control myself but if I can't I won't play gambling, if I have children I will definitely educate them properly away from dangerous sites and sites that contain gambling. taught him to control himself. just like my parents taught me first.

Ironically, here in my country parents talk with their children about drugs, weapons and theft, but I have never listened to parents talk about the dangers of gambling to their children. My parents never taught me about gambling or the fact it can be addicted if one is not careful, I learnt about it myself when I saw characters in Television who were pictured having problems with gambling; like Marge Simpson.

Probably because of it there must be a considerable amount of gamblers here in my country who cannot help themselves but continue to wager money they cannot afford to lose, that may explain why I have spotted some bet houses around here. I always assume those adults are responsible with their money, but one never truly knows.

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August 25, 2023, 05:28:05 PM
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Gambling addiction is best solved by having gambling budget which is very small to the amount you are earning, like 5% of the 100% you are earning.

Responsible gambling comes from inside you and how you discipline yourself, it is not about ads or anything.

But generally you should block ads, not just gambling ads, but because they are all frustrating. You can use ad blockers to block ads.
A small budget can save a person from gambling addiction, but a daily or weekly limit on gambling can also be a good solution. A gambler is deeply addicted to gambling when he gambles excessively and can make some profit from it. At first some profit motivates them to gamble more due to which he can't control himself and gambles to win more amount and the result is very terrible because panic gambling has more chance of loss than profit so gamble Always keep yourself in a routine to protect yourself from deep addiction

Partly you are right, because limiting the bankroll and reducing the frequency of gambling can indeed reduce the likelihood of becoming a gambling addict, but at the same time, and such people may be in trouble, because much depends on personal characteristics and sometimes I think that the attraction to gambling and as a consequence and the tendency to uncontrolled gambling and increased risks can be inherited. 

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August 25, 2023, 05:57:10 PM
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I was also a young person before where I was directed by my parents to stay away from gambling and drug sites at that time so that my curiosity was not too high about it, maybe for gambling I recently tried gambling when I had money from my salary and as an adult I have a job, I can do it as long as I can control myself but if I can't I won't play gambling, if I have children I will definitely educate them properly away from dangerous sites and sites that contain gambling. taught him to control himself. just like my parents taught me first.

This is a case to case basis that varies on child behavior. Guidance of parents is surely helps children tp be controlled but there’s some instances that children can’t be controlled when their human curiosity kicks in.

I have brother and we are both told to not drink alcohol or use cigarettes. My brother keeps breaking my parents guidance and I’m the only one follows it. We have free will to do what we want. A parents guidance will just give as an option to have a better life but still it’s up to us onwhat we will do.
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And that is the problem with being connected all the time, now it is expected that every single person is not only the owner of a smartphone but that they know how to use it, trying to get by without a smartphone is very difficult now as your bank accounts, contacts or even your bitcoin wallets could be there.

And this is making overcoming addictions or compulsive behaviors even harder, as even if it was possible to live without a smartphone a decade ago this is not possible anymore, and if anything this tendency will only get worse during the next years.
You are right most all the person have a smartphone all of the people may use online gambling as they have a smartphone as well as the internet. Actually, it has increased since online gambling started. People started gambling over time passing but later they become addicted.
Internet has improved the way we live and the creation of many of the social media apps is making people to keep doing what they like doing and even going to the extreme way. Teenagers and children are now searching for different things on the internet which parents might not even have access to. Technology have been making gambling to come close to our door steps without having to go to a physical casinos or a bet shop for us to make our bets. Stopping addiction it all depends on the the person and how they intend to stop it.

Yeah, the influence of technology creates a shortcut way for every individuals to play or bet with their favorite games, dangerous especially for young age those people who manage to access gambling online they can't be detected by the parents as they may thinking that it's just a usual use of their kids while browsing in the net.

Not knowing that addiction can harm the kids and without proper guidance, it will really affect to the point that they can no longer handle their addictions and start doing things that they never think that it can happen to them.

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Yeah, the influence of technology creates a shortcut way for every individuals to play or bet with their favorite games, dangerous especially for young age those people who manage to access gambling online they can't be detected by the parents as they may thinking that it's just a usual use of their kids while browsing in the net.

Not knowing that addiction can harm the kids and without proper guidance, it will really affect to the point that they can no longer handle their addictions and start doing things that they never think that it can happen to them.
Our children should be monitored at all certain points, especially when they are using personal mobile phones, because one never knows what they are doing or what websites they are visiting. We have everything at our disposal, and we must make effective use of this essential data because even minor errors can cost us everything that we cherish. Technology has improved to the point where we may sit comfortably at home and wager on games online without drawing the attention of anybody except ourselves.  We make decisions that will either be detrimental or positive in the long run.

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And besides that, in terms of time, it can greatly influence a person to move in gambling, such as for example they have a lot of free time and as we know that our curiosity always encourages gambling when we have a lot of free time, they will always fantasize about a victory. And I also agree that most of those who enter the addiction zone are those who are still underage, as we know that those who are young have a very high curiosity in any case including gambling itself. Now gambling seems to be very commonplace in the eyes of society and it is not uncommon for me to see some of them who think that this activity is normal with the times, and also on the other hand gambling can enter from anywhere but I would say that social media and also maybe the surrounding environment will be the main factors that can influence someone to enter gambling. If we have friends who like to gamble, then it will be very likely that we will also be carried away there with associations that are of course wrong. Moreover, gambling is about money, everyone needs money and if there are some of them who have a high level of curiosity then I think they will have the opportunity to then fall into it. Gambling is just about luck which is uncertain.
That is why we may have heard or read the news more often, where many young people have gambled because of their high curiosity. Moreover, those who are used to social media can easily watch gambling advertisements or streams from someone showing their big win. And with that high curiosity, they try to visit casino sites and read everything there. And finally, they try to deposit some money after learning what can and cannot be done while playing gambling. After his curiosity was satisfied, he told his friends, and in the end, many of them participated in gambling. This dilemma occurs in young people because they shouldn't visit casinos at their age, but because of invitations from their friends, they join in to play gambling.

And this invitation will be even stronger when one of them wins a lot of money and buys food and drinks to celebrate with his friends. Gradually, they often play gambling, and other problems arise where they will not realize that it is a feeling of addiction that makes them want to keep coming back to gambling. The addiction becomes bigger and makes them addicted to gambling in the future.

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Yes, the role of parents is important for their children, even so, young people who are educated by their parents to stay away from drugs and gambling may be a lot out there, but not all young people follow the directions of their parents. normal young blood always want to know more so that it becomes an experience for himself in the future.

I was also a young person before where I was directed by my parents to stay away from gambling and drug sites at that time so that my curiosity was not too high about it, maybe for gambling I recently tried gambling when I had money from my salary and as an adult I have a job, I can do it as long as I can control myself but if I can't I won't play gambling, if I have children I will definitely educate them properly away from dangerous sites and sites that contain gambling. taught him to control himself. just like my parents taught me first.
Educating their children is the duty of parents, and no matter how difficult it is for parents to divide their time between work and educating their children, they must keep an eye on their children. Even if their children are adults, parents must also keep an eye on them because the role of parents cannot be removed even if their children are adults and married. Parents will still be their parents, while their children will still be their children. The younger generation who have been properly educated by their parents will not try what they think is wrong because they have been told what risks and consequences they will get if they keep trying. But some young people still try it because of high curiosity and don't use other more useful things.

We really have to educate our children because it's a parent's obligation to their children. Later, our children will educate their children so they can walk the right path and not cause problems in their lives. But if their children make mistakes, it is not the end of their lives because their children still have a chance to change. And with the help of their parents, they can change for the better.

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In as much as one should have budget for gambling it is also advisable that one should also take extra precautionary measures to keep off addiction too. Although you are right when it comes to self discipline in restricting ones excesses.

Do you not think disabling gambling sites on ones browser settings could be of help also?
Disable gambling sites in browser settings in my opinion can be one of the many efforts to get the possibility of avoiding online gambling if deciding from the internet cannot be done.

The budget arrangement specifically for gambling delivered by Oshosondy is one of the efforts to decide addicted slowly.
Players who have been playing gambling for a long time in the category of addictive, is unlikely to be able to stop gambling. If possible, that's the most difficult job and requires a long time.
I don't understand how disabling gambling websites from browser settings can actually stop gambling addiction when you are literally the one who does it and you can obviously undo it anytime you want. It might work if the addict is someone else and you manage to disable all the gambling sites from their device and they might not be able to find out what's wrong, but still, I believe they will find a way to reach the sites, maybe reinstall the browser or something.

So, I absolutely don't find this to be a viable solution for controlling gambling addiction because it is a flawed method and it can be undone very easily by anyone that understands how to uninstall and reinstall a browser in a device or simply just reset it if it's a mobile browser which makes it even easier.

Well, the truth is, the fact of stopping some sites through the browser to avoid them, is something that sometimes I don't see sense in, first there must be the will of the player, second, many things must be done, such as physical activities or something like that, third, it would be very good if some casinos could have this algorithm that detects when a player is addicted, or may be becoming addicted to the game, that would be more effective for it, but we cannot force casinos to do something like that, it is ssu neogico and if we start to see, each person is responsible for their actions, in a casino they demand that everyone who enters be over 18 years of age and that makes things easier because by accepting and saying that they are of legal age, well a person of legal age is considered to have maximum responsibility and to have all their feelings and senses well controlled, so the addiction is partly the fault of the person first and secondly the same person or player has to have control over themselves .

For now things have to be done in other ways, some sites have those options to protect the player, to protect the player late, but of course you have to know how to do it, but it's nice that a site can have that access or that care, because sites that be like that, it's because they're worth it, I think all casinos have it, but it's tricky to ask them to be like that, because it's their business, they live off the players when they bet, and that's their way of earning money, so sometimes things can be decisive, now the addiction when it is already advanced because you have to look for treatment, help, the same people who are around you then these kinds of things are what have to be considered, now a player by law must know what he is he is doing, he cannot throw himself into the fact that he can do a lot and betting as much as he wants, because he has to be responsible, there is a lot of advice given to people before betting, but it is so difficult, because I believe that people own of his actions, of his money and his way of gambling.

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It will be better if knowledge of bitcoin is obtain by everyone but I don't think that in our society everyone knows about it. As you described about plumber so may be he has knowledge about it as he is a student and in every institution where there is one guy involved so every other guy also tries to do the same thing.

It means that he wants from longer time to buy bitcoin but due to some issues he cannot do it so by working as a plumber he achieved his desired goal. Spreading knowledge is easy and there will be lots of individuals who will do that so buying bitcoin sometimes become difficult therefore for those individuals taking bitcoin as a payment will be useful thing.



 

 

 

 

 

 


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August 27, 2023, 09:29:03 AM
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gambling addiction is bad enough if it costs a lot of money and even some people who do it dare to sell their homes or personal motorbikes. I consider gambling to be a game, it cannot really be a benchmark for earning or even wanting to get rich quick here. no one always wins here, try to think when playing gambling if it's free money, I think everyone wants to try it, but losing real assets is really not good.
Addiction is the most severe negative attributes of a gambler, more like entering the key stages and witnessing hugh losses, which can not be recoverable. Gambling is never a stream for generating income, we should probably look for way out in any mess we have found ourselves. We know exactly where our problems originates from, we also know the possible solutions to stop gambling but most of the gamblers are not ready to go down that road. They keep making excuses and their incompetent measures to quit online gambling, I've been in that shoes once, and trust me when I say, I know that feelings. 

Keep making excuses and unable to admit it or not willing to admit that they are already addicted, giving all excuses as they think they are still in control, but in reality they are already engage that much and no longer capable of controlling how they decide when it came to gambling, most of the time those kinds of people are not willing to listen.

They wanted to speak more about their participation and how good they are in controlling, but really wise, they don't have that anymore and
they are all being engaged and deeply addicted to the point that they are already doing unusual things that you can imagine that they can.

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August 27, 2023, 03:59:56 PM
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gambling addiction is bad enough if it costs a lot of money and even some people who do it dare to sell their homes or personal motorbikes. I consider gambling to be a game, it cannot really be a benchmark for earning or even wanting to get rich quick here. no one always wins here, try to think when playing gambling if it's free money, I think everyone wants to try it, but losing real assets is really not good.
Addiction is the most severe negative attributes of a gambler, more like entering the key stages and witnessing hugh losses, which can not be recoverable. Gambling is never a stream for generating income, we should probably look for way out in any mess we have found ourselves. We know exactly where our problems originates from, we also know the possible solutions to stop gambling but most of the gamblers are not ready to go down that road. They keep making excuses and their incompetent measures to quit online gambling, I've been in that shoes once, and trust me when I say, I know that feelings. 

Keep making excuses and unable to admit it or not willing to admit that they are already addicted, giving all excuses as they think they are still in control, but in reality they are already engage that much and no longer capable of controlling how they decide when it came to gambling, most of the time those kinds of people are not willing to listen.

They wanted to speak more about their participation and how good they are in controlling, but really wise, they don't have that anymore and
they are all being engaged and deeply addicted to the point that they are already doing unusual things that you can imagine that they can.
Some of the greatest, the best of the best, who thought they possessed the golden touch, alright? It applies to everything in life, not just gambling. Believe me, your observations are accurate. Who are these people? They'll tell you and proclaim from the rooftops that they are in charge and the best, but what are they really like on the inside? A situation has arisen. I've been in the ring where the stakes are tremendous, but what's important is healthy competition and gambling

The problem arises when you believe you are the ruler of the world and can transform anything to gold. It doesn't function like that. It's quite risky and dangerous. Many people I've encountered have asserted that they are the "most wise" and "most in control" when it comes to gambling, that they have it all figured out. But you've got it right: they're spiralling from the inside out. And it isn't attractive

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August 28, 2023, 07:09:08 AM
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Keep making excuses and unable to admit it or not willing to admit that they are already addicted, giving all excuses as they think they are still in control, but in reality they are already engage that much and no longer capable of controlling how they decide when it came to gambling, most of the time those kinds of people are not willing to listen.

They wanted to speak more about their participation and how good they are in controlling, but really wise, they don't have that anymore and
they are all being engaged and deeply addicted to the point that they are already doing unusual things that you can imagine that they can.
Regardless of the addiction a person may be going through the first step every single one of them needs to take in order to improve is to admit they have a problem and that they cannot solve it on their own.

And this is because we have countless examples of people that are obviously addicted claiming that they can leave their addiction behind as soon as they decide to do so, but they never do, they always find an excuse to not even try, as they know very well that if they did try they will fail, and then they will have to not only admit they were wrong but that they have lost complete control over their lives.
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Regardless of the addiction a person may be going through the first step every single one of them needs to take in order to improve is to admit they have a problem and that they cannot solve it on their own.

And this is because we have countless examples of people that are obviously addicted claiming that they can leave their addiction behind as soon as they decide to do so, but they never do, they always find an excuse to not even try, as they know very well that if they did try they will fail, and then they will have to not only admit they were wrong but that they have lost complete control over their lives.
I totally agree with your opinion about the possible measures to stop online gambling addiction. A problem can only be solved when it's firstly assumed as a problem otherwise it'll continue to linger and might even get to stage where nothing can be done about it to safe the situation.
Most of these gambling addicts will always tell you that they're not addicts rather they're in full control of what they're doing making it difficult for anyone to talk them out of their predicament.

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