Responsibilities of hierarchy in the forum

[coupable]

I find it strange that a member asks others to pay attention to his publications and what he publishes, believing that hierarchy is the reason for neglecting his creations. This is the height of naivety, in my opinion, although there is something to explain it.
Looking for interaction with your posts means two possibilities: either you are looking for interest in you that you miss in real life from those around you, or you want everyone to read you to increase your chances of getting merit points and thus upgrading your membership becomes easier. Personally, I favor the second hypothesis.
There is no responsibility for anyone towards anyone in a public forum on the Internet. The forum is mainly intended for exchanging experiences and not necessarily for interaction.

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[Hamza2424]

Hmm, I was reading the Thread and throughout the query of the OP, I've got a perfect answer given by Cantsay. as really it does matter who the newbies take the forum for their future if they are interested in the learning process they should avoid creating new topics they should stand by the reading mode and participate in the regular discussion on the informative topics created by the other experienced users.

Most of the newbies who post irrelevant they just try to rank up faster to make a slot available for them to earn from here, as their motive is money so they don't care about the quality of posting and Learning the new stuff. I'm not sure how many members come here by the invitations but if a person is coming to a forum by seniors invitation rather than bothering the person who invited him, he can self-explore the forum as it's not at all much complex, also this is a side point, in the case where senior just sent an invitation and you don't have much experience.

In a proper manner, I think the person who invited the guy should provide the basic information related to the forum. In my view in 90% of cases that person really provides the basic information to guide him well, Because why a person who doesn't know you or even know you'll provide you a link "Hey dude this link to the forum come and join" this really never happens. There will be always a back story behind the invitation and if there's a story then dear don't say that senior abandon you.

[SatoPrincess]

For quite sometime due to external factors I left and wasn't following in the forum only to see a post that talked about newbies posting thing they have no idea about! The simple salient question I have to all high ranked members is how are we encouraging learning in this platform...I'm not fighting anyone I want to know...who should be blamed also ...the newbies? Or the person who shared link for registration to them and didn't enlighten them of the modus operandi of the group?
I think this should be balanced by lashing newbies who hurry into posting irrelevant things and members as well as higher rankers who just abandon their invitees at the point of entry
Most of the times I wonder if our post are read because I've shared link of the rules of the group most times here but I don't think it's noticed or something this should be one of the ways this unnecessary post by newbies can be reduced while learning and important contributions remain the upheld norms/functions in this platform/forum

I hope this comes to you well!

First, this is a forum not a group as you have repeatedly stated in the OP. And I think it’s a lazy mentality and feeling of entitlement to expect anyone (even the person that referred you to the forum) to be a mentor or spoon-feed you until you are no longer a newbie. Anyone who can read and can find B&H board has no excuse, it’s true the forum can be confusing in the beginning but everyone eventually finds their way around the forum.

[Dr.Bitcoin_Strange]

OP, the forum is open to anyone, and the best way to learn in any place that you know you are not familiar with is to read, learn, and ask more relevant questions than irrelevant ones. About 10 years ago, I learned that any time I visit a website, I should look out for their search icon because it would be a better way to browse through that site or platform, but the truth is that some newbies even forget some of the principles on how to use the internet or how to browse some sites. Newbies should be responsible for every mistake they make and every form of criticism they receive; they should also know it's a way to learn. It's not everyone on the internet who will calmly talk to you about something. Some will scold you, and some will criticise you, but you must just learn. If someone gives you a reference to the forum and leaves you under the sun, then you should be brave on your own and ready to learn fast instead of putting blame on anyone.

It's even simple to understand how things work around here. One secret I learned as a newbie was to dig into other users profiles and learn how they made contributions and the best boards where they made the most of their posts. it's easy. First, look out for the rules; use the search icon; then learn from others that you think are doing well.

[lizarder]

The simple salient question I have to all high ranked members is how are we encouraging learning in this platform...I'm not fighting anyone I want to know...who should be blamed also ...the newbies? 

A lot of reading will bring beginners at the forum introduction stage to be better and reading can also train memory and broaden one's horizons. There are many newbies who seem to be in a rush to get achievements as a step up in the rankings and can join signature campaigns, they miss some important lessons to be understood about forums and not reading some of the rules there not to make mistakes.

It doesn't matter whether the posts you share are read or not by other users, but if the posts you make can provide knowledge to people who read them or at least can liven up discussions, then there must be a lot of judgment given by other people. Talking about quality in my opinion is relative and everyone will see it from a different point of view, but trying to be your own version will be much better because it will teach us how to write properly and correctly.

[robelneo]

For quite sometime due to external factors I left and wasn't following in the forum only to see a post that talked about newbies posting thing they have no idea about! The simple salient question I have to all high ranked members is how are we encouraging learning in this platform...I'm not fighting anyone I want to know...who should be blamed also ...the newbies? Or the person who shared link for registration to them and didn't enlighten them of the modus operandi of the group?

Bitcointalk is still a learning platform it never ceases to be one, in fact, you can join without getting an invite or from anyone who will explain to you this so-called modus operandi of certain groups, the forum has a set of rules that we are all agreed to comply it applies to all ranks, if newbies are getting lash out its because there are violations of the forum rules or a newbie failed to read the rules of this forum, members are just implementing and reminding these newbies.

I think this should be balanced by lashing newbies who hurry into posting irrelevant things and members as well as higher rankers who just abandon their invitees at the point of entry

Members just want to protect the forum and its members from being harmed, it's newbies' fault if they failed or ignore the rules of the forum, we are here to contribute and to follow the forum rules laid out by the admins.

[KingsDen]

There are two ways to this topic that you want us to discuss.
Firstly, anyone that is invited to a particular organisation or group will have to ask about the dos and don'ts of that group before they will begin to contribute. If you do not know the rules and regulations of a particular group, whatever thing you are contributing though important to you, could be very much irrelevant to the group.

Again, even if someone invited you to a particular group you would not expect that same person to spoon feed you with all the information about the group. It is now left for you to do your own research and gently synchronise.

It is also important that you understand that not everyone that comes to this forum were invited by people. Some stumbled on this forum from internet search and other places or social media. So they don't have any direct person mentoring them. And if I am to say, this place does not actually need too much of mentoring because it is an open system where everybody helps everybody.

[SOKO-DEKE]

For quite sometime due to external factors I left and wasn't following in the forum only to see a post that talked about newbies posting thing they have no idea about! The simple salient question I have to all high ranked members is how are we encouraging learning in this platform

I don't know how you are viewing the way senior rank members are talking to newbies here but as for me they are treating them in normal manner, because I have seen so many replies from senior rank members encouraging newbies to take their time and learn about the rules of the forum first and get proper knowledge before thinking of doing anything in the forum but due to their aiming of coming to the forum to making money by joining signature campaign they are eager of ranking their accounts and started hunting for merits out of understanding things about forum, so they will just decided posting what they don't have knowledge about repeatedly and even when they corrected some of this newbies never give listening eyes. In fact, why will newbies who claim they  know nothing about Bitcoin and the Bitcointalk forum start teaching others about members after 3 days or a week in the forum? I don't think it works that way because I don't think it's possible to gain enough knowledge to do so in just a few days. I now know that if newbies do something wrong and it is corrected, I believe that is a way to learn.

Most of the times I wonder if our post are read because I've shared link of the rules of the group most times here but I don't think it's noticed or something this should be one of the ways this unnecessary post by newbies can be reduced

As a newbie who is seriously here to learn, you don't need to rush into doing anything in the few days it may arrive in the forum. The best thing to do is to observe things, and with this, you will get to know many things about the forum. Many newbies don't spend time in the forum to learn, and if they don't spend some hours in the forum, they will hardly get some information at the right time. So I believe many of posts are not always noticed by newbies.

[Awaklara]

Everyone in this forum is acting of their own free will. even though there are people who come because they are invited by other people, but still your self-development does not depend on the person who invites you.

and what you need to know, like you are the first to enter school. You must know the rules and also the existing manners. As well as most forums, I don't think this is the only forum that has rules that new users should at least read. if you can understand it will be better.

here is a Bitcoin and Crypto discussion forum. there are no teachers who are charged with teaching here. beginners make mistakes maybe understandable. like making a post then deleted by the Moderator. the expected impact of deleting the post is a newbie trying to better understand the error. and try to fix it in the next post.