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I just posted that no one will take this seriously but Thurman has accepted the offer for charity but with conditions at least Thurman is still a gentleman lets see on the next step if Claressa will push this fight and will it be a charity fight, Of course, Thurman doesn't want to look bad in the eyes of the boxing community that is why he said he will just use his jab. Keith Thurman has ACCEPTED Claressa Shields call-out: “We can let you try to showcase your skills. I'd probably use my jab only… For charity I'd make that happen. I'd wear bigger gloves and let her wear headgear. I don't really wanna punch a girl in the face.” https://twitter.com/MichaelBensonn/status/1686760057709432834
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August 05, 2023, 12:25:18 PM |
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I must admit that I also thought that fight promoters would not accept promoting such an event even if it was for charity, but today I see Claressa's instagram that the fight will happen, although I don't see the date, as the photo does not show the date and place , but apparently from this photo: source: https://www.instagram.com/p/CviDC1IAUN5/so that means that the fight is really going to happen, it's not just her intention of wanting to fight Thurman, now what I find very funny about it is that in the instagram comments of this photo, people are asking him to give up this fight because even being a fight in which Thurman could take it easy on her, she still wouldn't have a chance to stay fighting for many rounds, people fear that he would be knocked out too soon and it would be much more humiliating because Thurman would be taking it too easy for her being a woman , this would not only affect her psychologically for suffering a defeat at a charity event and with the opponent taking it easy on her for being a woman as it would also affect her reputation in the world of female fighters, that's because in a fight, even if it's an exhibition fight, nobody likes to lose, especially when all the news channels and the fans are following the fight, an athlete always fights to win, but when he is facing a very weak opponent who is not even worth the effort, he fights to win in a way without hurting the opponent, the real problem is in the weak opponent who will make an effort to win the fight to show people that he made the guy strong to try hard and managed to win anyway
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I dont think Keith thurman will accept a challenge from Claressa shields because as a man keith Thurman won't hurt women because men punch clearly harder than women even though they are both professional boxers but for me it unfair and doesn't need to be done. Or if this is not possible, this just uncertain news because I see that claressa shields currently too ambitious to get an extraordinary title or is said to be a record breaker to beat all boxer. So that Claressa Shields ventured to challenge keith Thurman to compete in the boxing ring and received an extraordinary reception from their fans and admitted that he was a very strong boxer. the thing is, he already responded that he is up for it as long as it is for a charity event(but it doesn't mean that the fight will happen just because he accepts the offer). he knows that men hit harder than women that is why he offered to only use jabs, use bigger gloves, let her use head gear, ect... to make the match safer. also, it is not an "uncertain news" because he responded on Claressa's offer on one of his interview(there is a video of it). She could always get lucky. In all sports like boxing or MMA, it only takes 1 punch and bad shit can happen. Keith may also try to take it easy on her and get himself knocked out. I personally do not think that men should compete with women in the same sport and vice versa, but the world is changing and who knows what we will see next.
yep, I completely agree with this, she could get a lucky punch and men should not compete with women and vice versa especially in contact sports but I am really curious how she'll perform when matched with a boxer like Kieth Thurman.
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August 05, 2023, 11:19:59 PM |
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She could always get lucky. In all sports like boxing or MMA, it only takes 1 punch and bad shit can happen. Keith may also try to take it easy on her and get himself knocked out. I personally do not think that men should compete with women in the same sport and vice versa, but the world is changing and who knows what we will see next.
yep, I completely agree with this, she could get a lucky punch and men should not compete with women and vice versa especially in contact sports but I am really curious how she'll perform when matched with a boxer like Kieth Thurman. Claressa does not have knockout power and Thurman has proven that he has a good chin he has never been knocked out before he experienced a flash knockdown against Pacquiao but he is still a tough fighter to deal if I'm not mistaken this will be the first exhibition match that involves two champions that belongs to a different gender. Thurman can easily knock out Claressa but that will not look good in the eyes of the women's movement and in the eyes of boxing fans it will look controversial.
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August 06, 2023, 07:04:32 PM |
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Is it already official? If it is, then I think it's just an exhibition fight, right? I saw the highlights of the female boxer, and she is quite good, but it seems she forgot that the one she challenged was a former boxing champion who only suffered a defeat against Manny Pacquiao, a legend. If this fight is going to happen, I hope Thurman will slow down a bit, as I don't want to see a female boxer badly hurt because of a wrong decision in life. as per her record, https://boxrec.com/en/box-pro/777865..... She is currently undefeated, but I'm sure after the fight, she will experience her first loss, although unofficial. It is official that Claressa Shields indeed called out Keith Thurman to a boxing fight but considering the gender involved, it wouldn't be a good sight to see a fight between a male boxer and a female boxer even if both of them are known to the sport and have already carved their name to it. Personally, I don't want this to happen and I highly doubt that a hype will be built around it. Moreover, I know Thurman will just neglect this without making a statement because either way, it will be his loss even if the fight is so winnable by him. It's just funny because Shields had the courage to call out a male boxer which is also a former champion.
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August 06, 2023, 07:10:31 PM |
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Thurman can easily knock out Claressa but that will not look good in the eyes of the women's movement and in the eyes of boxing fans it will look controversial.
I disagree on this, Women’s movement has no say to this because their co-woman is the one ask for this match while she is a champion on his own division. I think think the should be view without any gender involved since Shields is a fighter too and not a regular house wive that doesn’t have fighting skills. Likeyly, This match will end TKO or KO on whoever will win. This will be very shameful for Thurman if he lose on this fight.
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August 07, 2023, 01:39:22 PM |
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[....] Regarding the fight itself, it's difficult to predict the outcome with certainty. Both fighters are skilled and capable, and it will be an intense match. It's important to approach the fight without making assumptions or underestimating any of the fighters. Let's wait and see how the match unfolds, and may the best fighter win.
What's so difficult to predict? It should be obvious. Intense? More like a practice or warm up session for Keith. If Thurman will fight with one hand tied behind his back then I would agree with you. I recently came across a video of arguably the best female boxer and kickboxer of all time. Lucia Rijker was so dominant in women's professional boxing and kickboxing with most of her wins ending in KO/TKO. Her power was also said to be the same of a man. She's unbeatable that time so they thought it was a good idea to let her fight a man in an exhibition kickboxing. She was match with an amateur Muay Thai fighter and got knocked out in the second round. Even an amateur boxer could knock out Claressa too in a no handicap match.
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August 07, 2023, 02:19:22 PM |
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[....] Regarding the fight itself, it's difficult to predict the outcome with certainty. Both fighters are skilled and capable, and it will be an intense match. It's important to approach the fight without making assumptions or underestimating any of the fighters. Let's wait and see how the match unfolds, and may the best fighter win.
What's so difficult to predict? It should be obvious. Intense? More like a practice or warm up session for Keith. If Thurman will fight with one hand tied behind his back then I would agree with you. I recently came across a video of arguably the best female boxer and kickboxer of all time. Lucia Rijker was so dominant in women's professional boxing and kickboxing with most of her wins ending in KO/TKO. Her power was also said to be the same of a man. She's unbeatable that time so they thought it was a good idea to let her fight a man in an exhibition kickboxing. She was match with an amateur Muay Thai fighter and got knocked out in the second round. Even an amateur boxer could knock out Claressa too in a no handicap match. Here is the video of the fight the guy did not show mercy he treated her as an opponent not as a lady, nevertheless its a feat but I doubt if Claressa can break a record of beating a man much more on a guy who is a former champion and with a very high knock out percentage, I'll give a benefit of a doubt if Claressa is a knockout machine but she is not, just a regular boxer with a good skill. https://www.facebook.com/watch/?v=1153102742075509
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This is a hundred percent rubbish and this is not something you can be proud of when you win against a female athlete when you are a man. boxing is not something you want to see a man and a woman fight inside the ring because they are both different in strength and capability. They should stop these kinds of provokes against female athletes the last time I heard about this one was when that female athlete wanted to play against Cousins in a one-on-one basketball match which did not really happen at all.
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August 07, 2023, 06:15:03 PM |
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This is a hundred percent rubbish and this is not something you can be proud of when you win against a female athlete when you are a man. boxing is not something you want to see a man and a woman fight inside the ring because they are both different in strength and capability. They should stop these kinds of provokes against female athletes the last time I heard about this one was when that female athlete wanted to play against Cousins in a one-on-one basketball match which did not really happen at all.
I guess these all started when these so-called feminists believed that they could do the same job that a man can do. Well, they are right about that but not in all cases and situation because there is a fine line between that divides us from doing what a male and female can do. What should they do is to focus on their sports which is the women's boxing, but I guess they are now trying to climb the fence because it is clear that they aren't making that much money on their own sports. Back to the discussion, it's quite an embarrassment for Keith Thurman because he had been chosen as the target of Claressa Shields but he cannot do anything aside from keeping his mouth shut as this kind of situation doesn't require an answer as the flame will just get bigger if he do so.
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This is not going to happen I know Claressa is a good boxer but she doesn't know her boundaries there are no videos of her sparring with men so she doesn't know how hard men hit more than women
She only had 2 knocks out to her credit or 14.29%. while Thurman has 68.75% or 22 knocks out in his 30 wins shows she is going to beat Thurman, why not get a transgender first, this is not going to happen its unlikely, Claressa is making a big joke if he thinks he can beat Thurman.
It is possible that this ruckus is one way of creating controversies to boost their popularity and at the same time if given a chance earn huge amount of paycheck while giving some of the proceeds to charity. Boxing is a sports and entertainment industry but business on top of that. If the commission sees a huge profit potential on this one, I believe they will make this fight realized under exhibition fight. I don't know but if anyone thinks that this exchange of words is staged, I also got the same feeling that this fight if ever executed will be rigged following certain script to avoid unnecessary damages, especially for Shields. The way I look at it, with the statistics of Shields, I believe Thurman won't flinch receiving punches from Shields.
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August 08, 2023, 05:18:19 AM |
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This is not going to happen I know Claressa is a good boxer but she doesn't know her boundaries there are no videos of her sparring with men so she doesn't know how hard men hit more than women
She only had 2 knocks out to her credit or 14.29%. while Thurman has 68.75% or 22 knocks out in his 30 wins shows she is going to beat Thurman, why not get a transgender first, this is not going to happen its unlikely, Claressa is making a big joke if he thinks he can beat Thurman.
It is possible that this ruckus is one way of creating controversies to boost their popularity and at the same time if given a chance earn huge amount of paycheck while giving some of the proceeds to charity. Boxing is a sports and entertainment industry but business on top of that. If the commission sees a huge profit potential on this one, I believe they will make this fight realized under exhibition fight. I don't know but if anyone thinks that this exchange of words is staged, I also got the same feeling that this fight if ever executed will be rigged following certain script to avoid unnecessary damages, especially for Shields. The way I look at it, with the statistics of Shields, I believe Thurman won't flinch receiving punches from Shields. Thurman would not get credit if he fought a lady boxer, because if he wins, people would think that it's not a big deal since his opponent is a woman. And if he loses, that's a big embarrassment on his part. I see something behind why this fight conversation exists. Maybe Shields finds Thurman to be like a woman because he talks too much, and that's why she wants to shut him up in the ring.
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