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August 05, 2023, 07:25:04 AM
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Why am I not surprised by this? I could smell trouble the moment I read his thread.

The following quote was prophetic:

You and Wolf are welcome back in a year or so and apologize to me, im in no rush and I am much bigger then both of you and don't let my feelings control my actions.

The thing about his emotions he demonstrates in almost every post, lol, and he continues with the idea:

See you next year Wolf.

Sign me up again for next year too, you seem to have forgotten about me.

I'm not buying it though: the email address was changed after suchmoon left OP negative feedback.

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August 05, 2023, 07:56:12 AM
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my account got hacked and I can't log in
So you instantly locked the account when you received the email, right? And now you can just follow the instructions for Recovering hacked/lost accounts.

I'm not buying it though: the email address was changed after suchmoon left OP negative feedback.

So you saying that I did go in here, ask for a collateral loan when I have one active loan NON-collateral loan with a user that have borrowed money from me?
I have lended out maybe 200 dollars total, I would to that for later try to get a collateral loan? No limit of stupidness of you guys, again if anyone of you girls have any problem with me, we can meet IRL and speak face to face, but I guess you would pee in your pants then.

I am curious what I should get out of that.
And nobody need to buy anything, since it's not any of your business.

Over and out, this forum is a fucking patethic place.  and the only people still is here is the one that didn't buy any bitcoin for like 10 years ago, and that is hurting them so much so they go in here and act like they was 12.
The one that actually made it and bought it and get rich has left this forum long time ago.

Again if anyone want something, add me to telegram, lets have a video call and we can see who is what, and before everyone speaks, look at your own feedback.


And Poker Player you are the biggest scammer here, just look at your feedback. just shut your mouth.

Bye tough guys, you know where to find me if you want me something. But I think you will continue with your drama here since you all just are a bunch of pussies.
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August 05, 2023, 08:02:09 AM
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we can meet IRL and speak face to face, but I guess you would pee in your pants then.
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Over and out, this forum is a fucking patethic place.  and the only people still is here is the one that didn't buy any bitcoin for like 10 years ago, and that is hurting them so much so they go in here and act like they was 12.
You sound very much like the typical scammer who got called out. Angry, big mouth, uncivilized. I've seen it many times. Your little scheme failed.

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August 05, 2023, 11:16:50 AM
Last edit: August 05, 2023, 01:28:06 PM by JollyGood
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Good riddance. At least one his known alt-accounts (Cantlogin) is busy posting now. He obviously will be back with other accounts (if he already has not) therefore it is not the last we have seen of that troll. On the bright side, he certainly has walked because he talked  Grin

I suppose he chose his words appropriately when he wrote his personal text: Don't talk the talk, if you can't walk the walk

I want  24 hours collateral BTC loan.

I want to lend 0.0026BTC and I pay back 0.0030BTC

The collateral I can offer is: Dogecoin or BCH.

I know I have feedback for never ask for a loan.
But I think a COLLATERAL loan  not the same as non collateral, since a scam can't happen.

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August 05, 2023, 01:08:17 PM
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You guys are really something extra, my account got hacked and I can't log in and you immediately gather together as a tough gang and start bullying, this says more about you then me.
No, I believe you are the same person. The password and email address change was a gimmick to make us think someone hacked your account when your scam plan failed.

August 04, 2023, 03:32:15 PM ---->> You created a shady loan request
August 04, 2023, 04:46:48 PM ---->> Edited loan request after facing backlash from some members
August 04, 2023, 05:02:31 PM ---->> Changed password and email to make it look like your account had been hacked

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You just look like fool's you don't realize that?
Sound like your are talking about yourself

Why do the "Hackee"(Victim) and the purported hacker use a similar tone when angry?
Over and out, this forum is a fucking patethic place.
Fuck everyone and fuck all forum for all !!!!!!!!!!!!

Bye tough guys.
Now Mr tough guy, calm down.  Kiss
You seems to be very tough here behind a monitor....

So please Mr tough guy....
Whatever Mr keyboard warrior.

I bet you feel strong and tough now.
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August 05, 2023, 03:04:10 PM
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You sound very angry; why is that? We have just helped you avoid getting a loan from your hacked account and spared you the consequences of having to pay for something you did not do.

Seriously, I do not understand why there is so much anger in your words. You said yourself that your CYBER_COWBOY account was hacked, and we tagged it appropriately to protect you. Did you want this to play out differently?

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August 05, 2023, 06:12:45 PM
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Collateral scams aren't a new thing, I've seen it many times.
There is no way to scam. The user is not asking for collateral here and the OP is trying to send collateral to OP. If you think the collateral might be something that has forked and Op is trying to send the previous token then that might be a different case.

Excuse me? I did ask for a collateral loan, not a non-collateral loan, because I can't access my BTC at the moment
You have told me you will not take any loan. That means you will to take any loan whether that is collateral loan or non-collateral loan.

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August 05, 2023, 06:59:57 PM
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Both accounts (CYBER_COWBOY and Cantlogin) are operated by the same puppeteer. There is a suspicion of the same puppeteer controlling other accounts that started posting in the Reputation and Lending boards too and then started trolling. Hopefully some more accounts will be uncovered.

You guys are really something extra, my account got hacked and I can't log in and you immediately gather together as a tough gang and start bullying, this says more about you then me.
No, I believe you are the same person. The password and email address change was a gimmick to make us think someone hacked your account when your scam plan failed.

August 04, 2023, 03:32:15 PM ---->> You created a shady loan request
August 04, 2023, 04:46:48 PM ---->> Edited loan request after facing backlash from some members
August 04, 2023, 05:02:31 PM ---->> Changed password and email to make it look like your account had been hacked

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Sound like your are talking about yourself

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August 06, 2023, 03:46:16 AM
 #29

Both accounts (CYBER_COWBOY and Cantlogin) are operated by the same puppeteer. There is a suspicion of the same puppeteer controlling other accounts that started posting in the Reputation and Lending boards too and then started trolling. Hopefully some more accounts will be uncovered.

I have a hunch Rohan Kotkar and SweetL0u are both alts of CYBER_COWBOY the former was a ruse to make the lending service provider look to be the victim while the latter after having a successful loan then went on to scam.

Rohan had been offline for four months and came back online 2022-03-03, 05:46:06 to say their wallet had been hacked went back to sleep for eleven months, then their fourth post in four weeks (two days shy of their eleven month slumber they start a loan application via CYBER_COWBOY's thread). 

CYBER_COWBOY changes their password for the very first time <two days after the loan from Rohan Kotkar was supposed to be repaid which is less than 24 hours around the time elmanchez wakes up.

elmanchez https://bpip.org/Profile?id=2553198 woke up 2/5/2023 2:10:11 AM    woke up
CYBER_COWBOY https://bpip.org/Profile?id=3533170 Registration Date:2/5/2023 4:15:31 PM

Speculation CYBER_COWBOY is elmanchez (as @DireWolfM19 speculated)




2021:

elmanchez 12/15/2021 5:21:27 PM    woke up
Rohan Kotkar last post before going to sleep for four months was December 16, 2021, 07:55:08 AM - Archive [1] [2]

Speculation Rohan Kotkar is elmanchez




Smarty14392 https://bpip.org/Profile?id=952148 is banned

This guy is a big spammer and should be blocked from using the forum.

You can Text me on whatsapp +91 9657746573
I want some serious deals.
This is my message from June 16 2017,
I still own this phone number.

Three years later, Rohan Kotkar uses the same What's app number:

Would buy it
You can call me at 9657746573

Smarty14392_alt https://bpip.org/Profile?id=2245449 starts a thread saying their account was hacked. https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=4691075.0;dt

It could just as well be an account that was sold a year ago, and the original owner is now trying to claim it back.
I'm not leaving red trust on this case, it doesn't smell right.
Agreed, it seems like both parties are not telling the whole story here. We have Smarty14392 here who is not telling an explanation why Smarty14392_alt verified a Bitcoin address who has been previously been used in his account. And Smarty14392_alt who didn't think of trying to recover the Smarty14392 account by clicking the forget password if only his password has been change while his email address remains unchanged which he can successfully reset via email verification. Both parties need some more explaining to do or provide more convincing proof.

With the fullness of time my "hunch" is that that UID ( Smarty14392 ) was never sold, rather it was an alt we've come to know as elmanchez



Conclusion:

Smarty14392 is Rohan Kotkar.
Rohan Kotkar is elmanchez
CYBER_COWBOY is also elmanchez

Smarty14392 is banned therefore CYBER_COWBOY is guilty of ban evasion





End note:

CYBER_COWBOY changes their password three times between the 11th on 17 of May 2023 and in that time frame DT trusts AHOYBRAUSE https://loyce.club/trust/2023-05-13_Sat_05.07h/3442536.html seemingly to counter the distrust given by @yahoo62278 four weeks earlier.

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Trust list for: AHOYBRAUSE (Trust: neutral) (250 Merit earned) (Trust list) (BPIP) (created 2023-05-13_Sat_05.07h)
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AHOYBRAUSE Distrusts these users' judgement:
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August 06, 2023, 09:04:12 AM
Last edit: August 06, 2023, 09:20:19 AM by Cantlogin
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Hello.

I want to apologize to everyone that I been rude to that didn't deserve it, and I want to say thank you to everyone that have helped me, I have been in contact with the support true e-mail already and going an process.
My account did got hacked and everyone have the right to think what they want, to be honest I don't care. I see some people accusing me of being alt's of alot of accounts, and if I would I was be able to speak like five different languages, I for sure can't I can speak Swedish. English and I can understand Thai that's it.

This week I had two close family members past away for private reasons and that made me go into a relapse of drugs and alcohol, when I do this I go and be a very very dark and evil person. I been clean for more then a year, and had built up my life to something very good. I don't hope one mistake will destroy the things I build up here. I am not a scammer in anyway and I have never scammed anyone, I am for sure not an alt of a scammer either. I think it's very wrong and coward to say this to me when you anonymous, like I said if you have a problem with me, isn't it better to speak face to face then like a video call and we can see ourselves.

I don't think my reputation here should get destroyed by this. I can swear that I don't are in possess of my account at the moment, I have started a get it back process with the support true e-mail already.
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If you guys have any proof of I am a bad scammer or an alt of one, go a head and paint my wall do whatever you feel for, but I know I ain't and never will be, I have my companies, I have my homes, I have my vehicle's, I have food in my fridge. So I don't need to take other peoples money here.

I see a lot of "I think"..... But nothing "I know I have proof".

Up to you guys, I give you the truth now, do whatever you feel for do. When I am sober I am a good friendly guy, but when I am on the shit, I can be a dark dark person. but whatever I never in my life scamming people.
When I grow up I get learned that that's something you ain't allowed to to, steal other peoples belongings. and I never will. I make over $4000 a month from my job (I can proof that if somebody wants), why the heck would I need to take a collateral loan of $65? When I also have a loan service with open loan? Everything I did until this happens, has been honest, not a single complain. I don't think because somebody else took my account is reason for painting it red.

Now it's up to you how big of humans you are, do what you feel it's right, but whatever you do, do it based on facts and not opinions and feelings.

Thanks to everyone and apologize to them that deserve it.

Now I won't log in to this account more, the point is already made, I hope I can get another chance, but if not that's up to you and not the biggest deal of the world, life goes on.
I got a lot of bigger problems to take care of then this, this is not a super big deal, but it's sad I started to very like this forum, my anxiety that I lost two family members and that I choose to fall back into that shit with drugs and alcohol again, I hate myself for it right now.

Thank for reading and listen.

And one thing to add, why would I need to take a $65 collateral loan?
I got right now at this time crypto worth almost $5000 and I can prove it to someone that I trust without any problem at all. (only with someone I trust)



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Collateral scams aren't a new thing, I've seen it many times.
There is no way to scam. The user is not asking for collateral here and the OP is trying to send collateral to OP. If you think the collateral might be something that has forked and Op is trying to send the previous token then that might be a different case.
I've seen the "old token" scam, but I've also seen people who offer to send you a private key, or "an account on an exchange".

And one thing to add, why would I need to take a $65 collateral loan?
I got right now at this time crypto worth almost $5000
I've seen so many scammers who say the amount they need is insignificant, and yet, they need it. This means nothing.

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My account did got hacked and everyone have the right to think what they want, to be honest I don't care.

Yes, everyone has the right to believe you're full of shit, if they choose. 

This week I had two close family members...

It's always such elaborate excuses and sob stories with you, elmanchez.  Full of tragedy and hardships.  I bet the reality is that you still live in your mom's basement and she makes your bed every morning.

it better to speak face to face then like a video call and we can see ourselves.

Who wants to waste time, effort, and money to schedule a meeting with someone they're convinced is a scammer?  Do you really expect anyone to care that much about proving you wrong?  If so, that makes you rather narcissistic.  Sorry to burst you're bubble, but when I'm in Thailand next year, the last thing I care to do is waste any of my time on you.  And one more thing, I still think you're lying about your location is really doesn't matter.

I don't think my reputation here should get destroyed by this.

You're entitled to your opinion, and others are free to disagree.

And one thing to add, why would I need to take a $65 collateral loan?

It's never about the amount or the need when we're talking about kleptomania.

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I make over $4000 a month from my job (I can proof that if somebody wants), why the heck would I need to take a collateral loan of $65?
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And one thing to add, why would I need to take a $65 collateral loan?
I got right now at this time crypto worth almost $5000

You're trying too hard, Richie Rich. You're now pretending that you didn't start this thread, even though it's obvious that you did based on the timeline and the erratic edits and the same attitude, including this bragging about your massive wealth. Perhaps that's a good thing though. You clearly don't have the patience for a proper long con. Apparently sixty bucks is where you start melting down.

only with someone I trust

I doubt anyone cares, except your own sockpuppets perhaps.
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blablabla

Save your energy until we meet, you may need it  Kiss




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I can prove it to someone that I trust without any problem at all. (only with someone I trust)
Signed messages can prove this to anyone, so either do it, or stop boasting about it.

Sure I can sign a message for you no problem. I trust you 100% and can do it when I get back my other account, or now if you add me to Telegram.


blablablabla

Yeah damn you got me, I tired to scam someone with a collateral loan, where i would send collateral loan first, that nos even was me...  Kiss



Regarding everyone else. From my heart I wish you all happiness.  Smiley


Now I am out to take care of sad family members, if you want me anything more, you know where to find me, and again, sorry to those people I said stupid things to that didn't deserve it.

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Reading the stories about sad events, bereavements, hospitalisation and illness (as well as drug addiction and battling relapses) could be from various movie scripts rolled in to one for your defence, which brings me to the question: Though it is highly unlikely you would elaborate, before you go would you at least make a list of all the alt-accounts you are operating?

Now I am out to take care of sad family members, if you want me anything more, you know where to find me, and again, sorry to those people I said stupid things to that didn't deserve it.

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Sure I can sign a message for you no problem. I trust you 100% and can do it when I get back my other account, or now if you add me to Telegram.
This is a forum, I don't need Telegram to see information. Post it if you have anything to share.

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Save your energy until we meet, you may need it  Kiss

Another thinly vailed threat?  You must think you're the only one who's ever claimed to know martial arts on the internet.

Well, I know Karate, Wing Chun, Taekwondo, Jujitsu, Kimchee, and whole bunch of other Asian words.   

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Save your energy until we meet, you may need it  Kiss

Another thinly vailed threat?  You must think you're the only one who's ever claimed to know martial arts on the internet.

Well, I know Karate, Wing Chun, Taekwondo, Jujitsu, Kimchee, and whole bunch of other Asian words.  

Oh no I am so scared. shut up, I told you to keep your energy until we meet.

I don't care what you say or can do, you have accused me of stuff on the internet, things you only say if you dare to say it IRL face2face.
Please, i beg you, stand up your words. Please! Take some friends with you to, let's live stream it so everyone here can see it. Don't block me on telegram now and keep up until you in Thailand.
Here nobody can save you, not even the police, this it how it works here, if i would want you to disappear in the jungle you would, but I won't. Just KO you out of this world will be enough on live stream so all your friends here can see that what you truly are, I took this personal and won't forget it.

You on it Deal? Come on. Don't insult me more, just say yes or no, if you so sure and so sure I am a scammer, you would no have a reason to say no.

Let's bet 1BTC we do the fight in a Muay Thai gym with gloves on (a MMA fight with a judge), and we shake hands after, if you win i respect you and if i win you should respect me.

And everyone here can watch it live.

Deal? You guys that watch it would have the time if your life so don't complain.

You have one year to train for it and so do I.

Stop now to speak nonsense behind a monitor, lets fucking do it.
Let's make wolf to accept it.


And JollyGood you can come to, insulted my dead family, with badder feedback i ever seen. Who even does like that ONLINE? People like you can't be older then 7y old.

Again, to everyone else, i apologize, but enough is enough, if you so tough. Come all you, i can meet you all alone.

Now the ball is with you wolf. as i said at telegram, I deeply think you a good guy, but you have misunderstoodme.


What you guys all think? A streamed MMA fight between me and diarrheawolf, after, we shake hands. It's nothing personal is just business.  Cool


Again I am sorry to you real people out there, but I stand up for myself, if anyone doubt it, i can meet you all alone, just give me location.


I am so cool

zzz tough guy, if you want to meet we can meet so you can speak to my face.
What you say? Let's live stream it so people can watch if you are a pussy or if I are a pussy.



How many alts do I got now? One that speak Russian, one that speak Arabic, one that speak Indian, and even more.... and me my self speak Swedish & English and can understand Thai.
So i can speak six languages at least (?!?!) wow... I wish I could! Really wish I could.


DireWolfM14 so what you saying mr karate master?
Different from you, I don't feel that I need to insult people on the internet, that's only what weak people do like you, of course sometime I need I feel i must defend myself and they I can say things i regret.
Let's make a real MMA fight with judges and everything, when somebody tap or get KO we will stop. Who knows? Maybe you toy me around? But at least we ad the balls to show up, that's more then you can say of 99.99% of other people here. Now is your golden chance to back up your behavior here.... If you bang out from this. You would be laughed at as a clown for sure.
We also live stream it, so people here can see that we actually do it and not just trolling them (I know they would like to watch that)
You can your martial arts and I can mine. I never fight a professional fight, only a bunch of amateurs fight, like 30-4. so I am far away from the best.
But I still hit the gym almost daily and am 36y old today, but in the end I truly believe you are a stand up good guy, you just have something in life that makes you unhappy and you let that things come out here on innocent people. Am i right?


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I also invite you to my house for an amazing dinner, after all this. You can make up your decision of what kind of person I am. I promise you that my mom won't be around. (since she break up the contact with me years ago when I was at my darkest point in my life) but it start to get better now.

But my cat and turtles will, maybe they are the owner of the house? But you have right in one way. I don't own everything, my brother own the land and I own the house. (My brother is 50/50 Thai and Swedish). but you guys already know, so much so I guess you understand why it is so?
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I live by myself in Thailand in my own house. If ANYONE of you dare to show the truth, let's have a video call I give you a tour, and at the same time you show me your house/apartment and we see who has what.  Smiley
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And if ANYONE of you don't think I don't dare to walk the walk and only talk, all of you are invited, we can meet in Europe if so.. or the states. The only people here that that talk but can't walk is you guys. you!
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Everything you accusing me for, can I show it's false, but if i did that, you had to shut up, so you just ignore that part, and all of you troll's i invite you all to come home to me for free holiday, I can pay your flight ticket, no problem. so you will come away from all this negativity a while. I am 100% serious, and if some of you really hate me and want to fight me, sure we can sparring some times and I can learn you the basic of self defense

Or give me ONE name that I have scammed. Give me ONE name that I have scammed. Please just one!?
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Put PLEASE stop insult family and people anonymous the only one that will look like a dickhead is you, you don't need to like me, but stop spreading lies about me, because some day it will bite back to you.
I know you don't have anything else then your reputation on the forum here, but for god's sake, that's not my fault! I would be so happy to meet you all and sit and talk to you face to face.
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So long story short, I think we have reached an end to all this, if you hate me, come and meet me.
If you have PROOF that I have scammed someone here. Go ahead and spread it!
If you have PROOF that I am alt of someone. Go a head spread it.

But if you don't have any proof, then it's better tho shut your mouth's.
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and wolf I already added you to TG but you remain in silence. You probably scared as a little boy and calling the police, no problem I can take them to the event to and we will see if they would care to help you, this is Thailand not the US.
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Wish you all the best and hope you one day will understand what life about, what you doing here is not cool at all. Going 5+ vs 1, spreading lies about him, insult his family.
If you would do this where I came from you would already been shoot. Just so you know.
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Btw: you really give a fuck if you painting my wall? You surely jurking of when you do it at the same time.
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And if someone of you want to learn how to self defense, i am happy to help you for free, at any time. Just hit me up.
Violence is something that never should be used on the streets, only inside a gym with people around that can break it up when its to much
But trust me, it will make you be another person and you will stop your mentally illness that you got that force you to be a dick online.
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And now, stop type nonsense hate here, you can't affect me with it. I just laughing at the same time I hitting a pad.
If you want to hurt my feelings, hurt my body! Nothing else can touch me,
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I hope I can help one of you out from this insecure nerd world, if I just can help one, then my missions as accomplished!
Because I am sure the most of you will just continue digging your hand into the sand and hate hate hate... You people will never learn until somebody is in front of you and know what you have done.
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Best regards / CC. - You know where to find me if you can walk the walk.

Now all of you are challenged, since I am such a loser and scammer. It would be easy for you to make your statement against me.  Grin
But should we make a bet? that instead of accepting it, you will get together here and try to bullying and push me down, sorry to say it won't work so save your useless life to something else.
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August 07, 2023, 02:11:11 PM
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Let's bet 1BTC

Might want to hurry up on that signed message with an address containing 1+ BTC lest you be called a liar again.

I am so cool

zzz tough guy, if you want to meet we can meet so you can speak to my face.
What you say? Let's live stream it so people can watch if you are a pussy or if I are a pussy.

Great idea. Let me know when you're coming. Just a word of caution, I've done some serious training lifting KFC buckets and 64oz colas.
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How many alts do I got now? One that speak Russian, one that speak Arabic, one that speak Indian, and even more.... and me my self speak Swedish & English and can understand Thai.
So i can speak six languages at least (?!?!) wow... I wish I could! Really wish I could.

If you can't, then why did you say you can?

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5223827.msg53787269#msg53787269


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Age: I am 23 years old.

Knowledge of languages: my main language is Russian, but I also know several others, including English, Latvian and Azerbaijani.

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That I can believe.  Why not go for a walk and enjoy the sun?  Step away from the keyboard for an hour or two and appreciate there is more to life than the forum and this drama you have made for yourself?

Pleased to meet you.
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