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August 17, 2023, 05:13:36 PM
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I thought he might not be active on the forum recently but then I saw he was last active on August 05. He should have returned this amount if he could not review it or maybe he did not understand the Mixin safe project but whatever was the reason he should have been in communication with the manager.

To be honest, I had the slightest of hope, very little indeed, that he is offline on the forum and when he comes back he may either apologize, ask for an extension to submit the review or maybe submit the review as soon as he is online.

However, to my disappointment, nothing of this happened. I checked and he was online on August 16.



He did not even care to reply whatsoever on the situation. Perhaps he already knew the outcome and he had made up his mind that he will ruin his account for 90$.
He contacted me on Telegram. Let's see what happen.


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August 17, 2023, 05:20:40 PM
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He contacted me on Telegram. Let's see what happen.

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Let's wait and see, but that was totally unacceptable and irresponsible of him. He had the time and internet to apply and even spend the Bitcoins that were sent to him, but he then suddenly didn't have time to make a simple review even after several reminders?

What a way to mess up a valuable account.

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August 17, 2023, 10:08:27 PM
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He contacted me on Telegram. Let's see what happen.

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Let's wait and see, but that was totally unacceptable and irresponsible of him. He had the time and internet to apply and even spend the Bitcoins that were sent to him, but he then suddenly didn't have time to make a simple review even after several reminders?
Personally, I do not think that he would risk losing his account for the sake of this small amount, especially since this would not have cost him more than trying the site and publishing the review. Maybe he did not imagine that the situation would become so complicated, and most likely he was confused about what position he should take to remedy the issue, and this is explained by his direct contact with Royse without him coming here and providing any explanation to all who left him negative feedbacks.
By verifying a little in his trust history, it appears that he has precedents for delay in payment, and he actually has an active loan in the amount of $ 40 Bitcoin since years ago from DS, which he has not repaid until today. I think that explains his bad habit.
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August 17, 2023, 10:37:07 PM
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The real question is why did he spend the money before testing the platform!
Royse sent the payment upfront to each one of the reviewers so they can test the platform without having to spend from their own pocket.
Spending the money elsewhere, being late to submit the review then coming back after receiving multiple red tags to simply say you are sorry and expect others to remove the red tags.. I don't think this is how things work here.

For the record, I didn't tag jamyr with a négatif feedback and I didn't support the flag against him.

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August 18, 2023, 12:50:11 PM
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I dont know how long someone can live in Philippines with 0.003 BTC, but this was so stupid from him to do Roll Eyes
I think I saw jamyr writing in Gambling board before, but like I said yesterday - sadly this forum is full of scammers and cheaters who are waiting to stab someone in back  Tongue

He contacted me on Telegram. Let's see what happen.
This was 3 days ago, he was online but didnt reply anything.
He can still fix things if he returns money.

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August 18, 2023, 01:11:33 PM
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I am still wondering what must have prompted his actions making him not to do the review for which he has been paid for. Looking at the fact that he is a senior member here with such rank considering the efforts he has put in to achieve that height, it is not what he should have kept mute over to not communicating with the manager to explaining things to him what he was going through or appeal for some time to be given to him.  $90 is not worth risking such account at  that rank.

In most cases some people choose to keep their private life and whatever they are going through privately to themselves. Irrespective of the circumstances surrounding them and looking at the way he withdrew the money it is either something was wrong or something else but from the screenshot of the conversation, it seems he has already made up his mind   to face the consequences of what ever comes his way.


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August 18, 2023, 03:34:45 PM
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He will return it as soon as he can.

which means the money was not just sent to a different address for safekeeping, privacy, or security, whatever the case may be, as I was assuming, but rather the money has already been spent.

No matter the time that it's going to cost him to return the fund, it might buy him some mercy from members, which they can either change their tag to neutral or leave it that way, which ever way, one thing is for sure that no manager will ever wan't to entrust this user with any kind of fund as an offront payment for a work not done yet..

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August 18, 2023, 11:50:41 PM
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He will return it as soon as he can.

which means the money was not just sent to a different address for safekeeping, privacy, or security, whatever the case may be, as I was assuming, but rather the money has already been spent.

No matter the time that it's going to cost him to return the fund, it might buy him some mercy from members, which they can either change their tag to neutral or leave it that way, which ever way, one thing is for sure that no manager will ever wan't to entrust this user with any kind of fund as an offront payment for a work not done yet..

I think what he has done was wrong though. I was also of the view if he had informed the campaign  manager, he would have had a fair hearing and possibly an extension of time. From the looks, he might just have had a little issue but has not been able to say it out. I think he might likely return the money but the deed has been done. What is left for him to do now is to make refund. This would definitely make other managers come up with stringent rules while applying for review campaign of this nature in the future.

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August 19, 2023, 06:30:43 AM
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I dont know how long someone can live in Philippines with 0.003 BTC, but this was so stupid from him to do Roll Eyes

Quite a while, actually... it could be a month's rent or a month's worth of food for some people. But the earnings potential from the un-tarnished account would have been much greater, of course.

No matter the time that it's going to cost him to return the fund, it might buy him some mercy from members, which they can either change their tag to neutral or leave it that way, which ever way, one thing is for sure that no manager will ever wan't to entrust this user with any kind of fund as an offront payment for a work not done yet..

And unfortunately the longer he waits, the less chance he has of everyone being around to remove their negative ratings. He probably is undergoing some unfortunate circumstance but hopefully realizes its in his best interest to resolve the situation.

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August 19, 2023, 07:54:53 AM
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All he had to was to submit the review within the time allocated by the BM. A Senior Member destroying his reputation for such a small amount is just foolishness. After reading the chat I doubt he would refund that amount in the future. If he does then it will be good for him and if he doesn't then his future here is over.

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And unfortunately the longer he waits, the less chance he has of everyone being around to remove their negative ratings. He probably is undergoing some unfortunate circumstance but hopefully realizes its in his best interest to resolve the situation.

Well, he alone knows what exactly the issue is, but if I were to be in his shoes and like someone who values their reputation very highly, I would just take a loan, probably outside this forum, maybe from relatives, and refund this payment now that I still have a higher chance of retaining some of my reputation, and then ask for the forgiveness of the campaign manager.
As this kind of Jamyr behavior can also likely jeopardize his chances of getting accepted in any of his future campaigns,

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August 19, 2023, 11:24:07 PM
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All he had to was to submit the review within the time allocated by the BM. A Senior Member destroying his reputation for such a small amount is just foolishness. After reading the chat I doubt he would refund that amount in the future. If he does then it will be good for him and if he doesn't then his future here is over.
If he was not capable enough to review then there was no need to apply. But he disappeared with the funds without posting a review, the results of which are showing on his account. It's really a stupid move by this user to ruin the reputation of a senior member rank account like this.

I am still waiting for him to come back and refund the campaign money. Now it is to be seen whether he can refund the money, which he received in advance.

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August 20, 2023, 04:08:22 AM
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All he had to was to submit the review within the time allocated by the BM. A Senior Member destroying his reputation for such a small amount is just foolishness. After reading the chat I doubt he would refund that amount in the future. If he does then it will be good for him and if he doesn't then his future here is over.

It seems that he has already spent that 90$ somewhere else and he did not have money to review. Remember to review the Mixin Safe, we need to spend at least 2$ to upgrade and also some funds to deposit and withdrawals. Seems like he had no money left for all this and therefore he could not review.

Also if he returns this money anytime in future, would the tag be removed? I think some things are time bound and if you do not do the required actions within the specified time, you cannot be trusted.


I dont know how long someone can live in Philippines with 0.003 BTC, but this was so stupid from him to do Roll Eyes

It's not about 0.003 BTC. If someone scams even 1 bitcoin, that money won't be helpful for that person. It may seem that he has got big money but in fact that money will be evil for him. People don't realize this and then cry later about why they are getting so many problems in life, It's because they are spending their lives with money earned through dishonesty and/or by scamming others.

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Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.



Apologies again Royse.

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Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.



Apologies again Royse.
Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

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August 26, 2023, 07:49:49 AM
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Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

I think it's best not to be too harsh on him now that he's shown up here and says he's committed to repaying what he owes.

Yes you are right that what he has done is not logical, but sometimes we humans get carried away by emotions knowing that what we are doing is not right, like the problem gambler who knows what he is doing is wrong but continues to gamble and lose.

I supported the flag btw, that doesn't change.

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August 26, 2023, 11:00:31 AM
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Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

I think it's best not to be too harsh on him now that he's shown up here and says he's committed to repaying what he owes.

Yes you are right that what he has done is not logical, but sometimes we humans get carried away by emotions knowing that what we are doing is not right, like the problem gambler who knows what he is doing is wrong but continues to gamble and lose.

I supported the flag btw, that doesn't change.
I see things differently here bro, I like to be fairly judgemental rather than emotional. This is so annoying, someone entrusted such an amount in your care and you just disappeared without communication. Coming to apologize still doesn't exonerate this guy and giving the excuse of an internet connection is a simple lie.

I don't know how you guys follow cases logically, I do very well, and I frown at people playing smart. You who didn't have an internet connection received money that can't be withdrawn without internet but could not send it back to the sender when you have the internet connection.

Common!!! He would have still earned the BTC if he did the job. His intention in collecting the money was not good from the onset though he might have a change of mind now. Maybe people who know him physically are now attacking him for his bad attitude or a conscience playing guilty. That's how I see it.

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August 26, 2023, 12:48:07 PM
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Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

I think it's best not to be too harsh on him now that he's shown up here and says he's committed to repaying what he owes.

Yes you are right that what he has done is not logical, but sometimes we humans get carried away by emotions knowing that what we are doing is not right, like the problem gambler who knows what he is doing is wrong but continues to gamble and lose.

I supported the flag btw, that doesn't change.
I see things differently here bro, I like to be fairly judgemental rather than emotional. This is so annoying, someone entrusted such an amount in your care and you just disappeared without communication. Coming to apologize still doesn't exonerate this guy and giving the excuse of an internet connection is a simple lie.

I don't know how you guys follow cases logically, I do very well, and I frown at people playing smart. You who didn't have an internet connection received money that can't be withdrawn without internet but could not send it back to the sender when you have the internet connection.

Common!!! He would have still earned the BTC if he did the job. His intention in collecting the money was not good from the onset though he might have a change of mind now. Maybe people who know him physically are now attacking him for his bad attitude or a conscience playing guilty. That's how I see it.

Was that really his excuse? No internet connection? I totally agree, that's quite a weak excuse in this day and age. Sure, unexpected situations can happen. Like, for instance, a natural disaster striking and leaving you without electricity and internet for a while. But unless you're living on Antarctica or on the Moon, it's hard to believe you can't get back online within a couple of weeks.

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August 26, 2023, 01:24:10 PM
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Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

What complicates things even more, Jamyr will no longer be able to participate in campaigns due to negative feedback. Therefore, returning bitcoins will be very difficult, even if it is a small sum of $78. I personally do not believe that he will return to the forum, at least not under this account. He lost all motivation to do so.

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August 26, 2023, 01:39:31 PM
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Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.



Apologies again Royse.
You've been on this forum for years, and you've made a decision like this, it's disappointing. If you were a little more active and took some time to complete the review, you wouldn't be in this situation. The amount you have taken is not so big that you lose the ability to refund. If you are active in the forum you can earn this amount without losing your account reputation. But the decision you have made is disappointing to many. Like many, I think it's a question of whether you'll ever come back to this account.

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