Failed to submit review and also did not refund the payment.

[AB de Royse777]

User: jamyr

Payment reference in campaign: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460259.msg62593757#msg62593757

Hello Royse,

Bitcointalk Rank: Sr. Member
Lifetime earned merit: 373
Bech32 address: bc1qjuruw650aqp0le6cq2v8yh7ur6pvujxsf4es02

Scammed amount: 0.003 BTC

Some details: User was paid for Mixin Safe - Decentralized Bitcoin Custody Solutions | Review Campaign. Given his first deadline to submit review before 31/07/2023 UTC. Missed the deadline. Then given another extended deadline, he missed it again. Reminded to complete the job before the deadline but never listened, asked to refund by 10/08 which is over now. This is unexpected.

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460259.msg62632852#msg62632852
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460259.msg62648510#msg62648510
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460259.msg62662538#msg62662538
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5460259.msg62655696#msg62655696

Loss of my time, my client's time, damage of financial contract.
Considering the time wasted, and overall loss, the scammed amount is more than 0.003 BTC


Flag is in progress: https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?action=trust;flag=3195
Feel free to support.

Thank you.

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[Charles-Tim]

I have tagged jamyr red and I support the flag. At least if he has no time for the review, he can send the money back. To send bitcoin from a wallet takes just little time.

[decodx]

His forum activity was rather sporadic even prior to enrolling in the review campaign. Nonetheless, he had a responsibility to honor his commitment, especially after he requested an extension for the deadline. It's either that or he should return the money. Pretty stupid way to ruin Sr. Member account.

I also support the flag.

[UmerIdrees]

I have tagged jamyr red and I support the flag. At least if he has no time for the review, he can send the money back. To send bitcoin from a wallet takes just little time.

I was just wondering why would a Sr. Member will scam a 90-100$ amount  

I thought he might not be active on the forum recently but then I saw he was last active on August 05. He should have returned this amount if he could not review it or maybe he did not understand the Mixin safe project but whatever was the reason he should have been in communication with the manager.

[Cantsay]

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Before dropping an application for a job an user is supposed to analyse their strength if it’s something they’ll be able to do, in the case of @jamyr I think his was coupled with greed cause I see no reason why you’ll apply for a job you know very well that you won’t be able to complete.

I saw the thread when it was newly launched and I since I realised that I won’t be able to make a complete review due to my real life activity I had to ignore it and let those that will be capable to deliver the job apply and do the job they were paid for.

And now this has cost him his account and I’m sure returning the money now will no longer have any effect whatsoever, that’s pretty stupid of him if you ask me.

[Latviand]

Before dropping an application for a job an user is supposed to analyse their strength if it’s something they’ll be able to do, in the case of @jamyr I think his was coupled with greed cause I see no reason why you’ll apply for a job you know very well that you won’t be able to complete.

I don't think that this is true most of the time though, I was lucky that @Royse777 accepted me even though it's my first review and he put me in the 2nd batch. I didn't have the experience and the initial requirements to do a review but I was able to do it. The reason I think why he still applied is because he probably read that the payment will be given first and that's the beginning of your deadline for the review. The saddest thing about this is that he was willing to destroy his reputation for a measly $90 worth of bitcoin.

[yahoo62278]

I have tagged jamyr red and I support the flag. At least if he has no time for the review, he can send the money back. To send bitcoin from a wallet takes just little time.

I was just wondering why would a Sr. Member will scam a 90-100$ amount  

I thought he might not be active on the forum recently but then I saw he was last active on August 05. He should have returned this amount if he could not review it or maybe he did not understand the Mixin safe project but whatever was the reason he should have been in communication with the manager.

Unfortunately some people are just desperate. I've seen people scam for $5. Why ruin an account for $100? Who know their reason, but looks to me like they will likely not be returning after this.

Flag supported it's too bad too cause I always got along with jamyr

[hugeblack]

I was just wondering why would a Sr. Member will scam a 90-100$ amount  

This account may have an army of alt accounts, or this account may have been sold/hacked^[1]. I am not good at finding alt accounts, but if a topic was created about it, we may find an alt account in one of the active campaigns and be able to recover your money.

I have tagged jamyr red and I support the flag. At least if he has no time for the review, he can send the money back. To send bitcoin from a wallet takes just little time.

I'm not going to delete it and will change it into natural trust it if it gets resolved but I do remember coming across this account username somewhere.

Flag supported

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[examplens]

Flag supported by my side. I'm posting this just so I can get notifications if there is a significant change.

As jamyr is inactive after applying for this campaign, I would leave the room if he really had a valid reason why he couldn't do the task he participated in. Shit happens. However,  he was present at the forum on August 5, so he should be informed about the whole thing.
Plus, as far as I can see the bitcoins he received for this campaign, he sent them on almost instantly. Certainly, lack of information cannot be an excuse.

[Charles-Tim]

Flag supported by my side. I'm posting this just so I can get notifications if there is a significant change.

As jamyr is inactive after applying for this campaign, I would leave the room if he really had a valid reason why he couldn't do the task he participated in. Shit happens.

You have a good post about this. But posting to a thread do not give notification. Or does it? What I know and that I have been doing is to click on notify which can be seen at the top right or lower left corner beside reply.

Jamyr defaulted a loan for over 14 months. He has Darkstar_ active loan to pay which has been since August 27th, 2022. I am not the type that will think he will pay this back, but I may be wrong. He can prove me wrong. Let us see.

[robelneo]

Supported the flag and tagged him he is not really active here there's a gap in his posts and the review campaign is his opportunity to scam he once defaulted on a loan and paid it after 14 months but considering the trust given to him and the damages to Royse's client I don't think he deserves to be in any campaign anymore or take a loan even if he returned it now or later, it's in his character.

[examplens]

You have a good post about this. But posting to a thread do not give notification. Or does it? What I know and that I have been doing is to click on notify which can be seen at the top right or lower left corner beside reply.

I have a habit of checking "Show new replies to your posts" even before the appearance of Telegram bot notifications. Less experienced members may not know that it is necessary to make a mention, but in this way, it is more likely that I will not miss a possible update in this case. Although Royse777 is a responsible person, I believe that he would not allow a possible positive resolution of the case to go unnoticed.

Jamyr defaulted a loan for over 14 months. He has Darkstar_ active loan to pay which has been since August 27th, 2022. I am not the type that will think he will pay this back, but I may be wrong. He can prove me wrong. Let us see.

I don't know about Jamyr case and this loan, but Darkstar_ is offline for a while, so for now we have no real information about the status of that loan.

[holydarkness]

I see that jamyr's last online activity was on 5th of August, though you've been very lenient to him by extending the deadline several times, shouldn't we consider a possibility that he's not aware of your latest request to refund the up-front payment, given your post requesting the refund is on 6th of August [as also listed as reference link on the opening post], one day after his last online date?

He still failed to met his end of bargain, and thus his future deal and enrollment should still be taken with grains of salt, but maybe --just to be sure we ventured all possible scenario-- he has no intention to not refunding the payment, he simply did not noticed the final request and warning.

[Smartvirus]

Jamyr is surely a familiar username on the forum and whatever the excuse might be on the user’s part, it better be a dammed good one because, it ain’t funny having to bridge a contract the way it all played out. Not taking caution like informing the manager on any development that might result to delays or not having to meet up with the agreements as specified in Ann thread or not heeding the manager’s request for a refund within a set date.

What is worst, the coin appears to have been sent from the received address and not to the manager’s refund address but actually spent possibly in two phases.

First phase: BTC0.00270000 ($81.22)
Transaction Hash: b878264e8b78b63587f380b95590d0fb7a584b606923edfbd99026fb4ea9052c
Recipient Address: 1ASmUNgzwyD2kUxbH96ungfqMZvpQacnGs
Change address: bc1qjuruw650aqp0le6cq2v8yh7ur6pvujxsf4es02

Second phase: BTC0.00023968 ($7.21)
Transaction Hash: ed35599c6403525129693213e5d52844a609a3cc3cc3d1c51c3dc2ece7e54dc5
Recipient Address: 3LbqPh4cK41cCcpNWtn8pq2hFsEt99AnQ2

All these transactions played out within 4th and 5th of august, 2023.
I think one who could find the time to make all these transactions should as well make room for the contract or do the necessary to maintain reputation. On these notes, it’s hard not to support flag so, yeah.

User haven’t proven to be good with loans and at the time,
Has an active loan with Darkstar of which, might just prove the inevitable!

Red flag supported!

[FatFork]

Flag supported.

I see that jamyr's last online activity was on 5th of August, though you've been very lenient to him by extending the deadline several times, shouldn't we consider a possibility that he's not aware of your latest request to refund the up-front payment, given your post requesting the refund is on 6th of August [as also listed as reference link on the opening post], one day after his last online date?

He still failed to met his end of bargain, and thus his future deal and enrollment should still be taken with grains of salt, but maybe --just to be sure we ventured all possible scenario-- he has no intention to not refunding the payment, he simply did not noticed the final request and warning.

I believe he is fully aware of his actions. It has already been 10+ days since he missed his initial deadline, and he was active on the forum during this period, giving him ample opportunity to return the payment if he really wanted to. The requirement for a refund is clearly stated in the initial conditions of the review campaign, which he had agreed to. Moreover, it's worth noting that the extension of his first deadline was granted at his own request, as indicated here. Given these circumstances, I believe that his current lack of communication is intentional.

[Doan9269]

He should know that there's no way to eat his egg and still have it, it's easier to have review on time before other busy schedules showed up, despite his failure to compliance to the deadline given, an extension was made to enable him have a second chance, i believe he was not the only one involved, others take actions but he shows negligence, this is a contract you signed in for, if you think it's unbearable anymore, then make refundment, maybe we should consider if at all he was that stucked in an emergency that warrant him having no access to Internet or mobile phone, but if he's lucky to have later sent back the fund, the manager may and may not erace the tag.

[GiftedMAN]

I expected jamyyr to have contacted the op via pm to explain things to him since he couldn't meet up with the review at least there would have been a consideration for him but since it appears that he's not willing to refund the money and he's not eager to do the review as expected I think he deserves the red tag.

[SamReomo]

Flag supported but I really feel bad by seeing that a user with 1736 activity has done something like this. Although, he's a senior member by rank, but his activity and number of posts show that he has been quite active on the forum for a long time. I would always support Royse sir because I have worked with him and he's the kindest and most supportive manager on the forum. I have also participated in the same review campaign as well in another review campaign of Royse sir where he has sent to review money to my wallet before completion of the review. I have completed and submitted my review on time because if someone gives us such opportunity then its our duty to do our best to complete the tasks on time.

It's totally unfair and inhuman to do something like this with a reputed manager like Royse sir, and if the accused gets my comment then I suggest him/her to refund the money and say sorry for his act. I'm quite sure that he/she may get another chance if he/she refunds the money after seeing the comments on this thread.

I have noticed that the user hasn't earned a single merit in last 120 days and that shows clearly that the user is not contributing a lot to the forum. I recommend Royse sir to have merit requirement of at least 5 in last 120 days for the next review campaigns as the the users who have earned those merits will always try their best to complete the tasks on time because those users are mostly the active users of the forum and they would never do anything that may create problems for their account.

[acroman08]

not sure which part of the Philippines he is from but it's possible that jamyr was affected by the recent typhoon here in the Philippines, that being said, refunding the money after failing to submit the review even after asking to extend the deadline would have been the right move. sorry you had to deal with this Royse777, Flag supported.

[Poker Player]

I have also supported the flag. What I see is that payment was made upfront. I don't know if this is usual or what because I have never participated in review but I suppose that if the payment was made after submitting a satisfactory review instead of upfront, this wouldn't have happened. However, I understand that maybe the payment was made this way for simplicity and convenience.

[Gladitorcomeback]

Flag supported and feeling regret for jamyr that despite of knowing the result he nor reviewed and not returned back fund. I don't know what really happened with this user because he lost his account reputation and participation in any future review, signature compaign for just 90$.


On 6 April this user reviewed Utopia Ecosystem successfully and from his review its clear that he know how to review any project. Interesting fact here is that utopia review reward is only 20$ for seniors member and payment is also made after review. in last 3 months he posted only 14 posts and not applied for any signature that mean this user was no more interested in being active on this forum and unfortunately he leave this forum in very bad style by scamming Honest manager.

[NotATether]

I guess he tried (successfully) to pull off an exit scam.

I don't remember whether you had a minimum merit/120 days requirement for this review, but perhaps you might need an active account requirement as well, after this.

[Little Mouse]

I don't remember whether you had a minimum merit/120 days requirement for this review, but perhaps you might need an active account requirement as well, after this.

There was no 120 days merit requirement but a lifetime 50 earned merits + Full Member minimum rank.

[NotATether]

I don't remember whether you had a minimum merit/120 days requirement for this review, but perhaps you might need an active account requirement as well, after this.

There was no 120 days merit requirement but a lifetime 50 earned merits + Full Member minimum rank.

See, that's the mistake. Assuming malicious applicants, what is there from stopping old, dormant accounts from before the merit system coming in and making applications?

Or people who've earned their 50 merit a year ago and hardly get a merit in 6 months?

These are exactly the kind of things that 120 day merit requirements stop, because it can identify the active, constructive user from the inactive user and also the spammers/bounty hunters/etc.

[JeromeTash]

Cheap fraudster. He thinks 0.003 BTC is worth more than his reputation?  Flag supported!

not sure which part of the Philippines he is from but it's possible that jamyr was affected by the recent typhoon here in the Philippines, that being said, refunding the money after failing to submit the review even after asking to extend the deadline would have been the right move. sorry you had to deal with this Royse777, Flag supported.

I don't know which country he is from, but Examplens was in a close to similar situation and all he did was to inform Royse777, and he was granted a new deadline.

After several deadlines, jamyr had a chance to even refund, which he didn't.

[acroman08]

not sure which part of the Philippines he is from but it's possible that jamyr was affected by the recent typhoon here in the Philippines, that being said, refunding the money after failing to submit the review even after asking to extend the deadline would have been the right move. sorry you had to deal with this Royse777, Flag supported.

I don't know which country he is from, but Examplens was in a close to similar situation and all he did was to inform Royse777, and he was granted a new deadline.

After several deadlines, jamyr had a chance to even refund, which he didn't.

Based on the information on his profile and his post history, he is from the Philippines but not sure which part. yeah, I agree that he could have informed Royse777 about his situation if he was affected by the recent typhoon that hit the Philippines or he could have just refunded the money after failing to submit his review instead of scamming.

[Eternad]

Based on the information on his profile and his post history, he is from the Philippines but not sure which part. yeah, I agree that he could have informed Royse777 about his situation if he was affected by the recent typhoon that hit the Philippines or he could have just refunded the money after failing to submit his review instead of scamming.

I remember seeing him on our local section since he was very active before when he still enrolled on signature campaign. He is also actively promoting Bitsler on our local board and casually bump the Bitsler official ann thread even though he is not officially part of the team.

If I’m not mistaken, He was once involved on commotion before with Icopress on one of the review campaign he was involved. He is asking the payment immediately afte he post his review. He was showing some sign that he might gonna run at some point but I never thought that he will throw his account for a mere 90$ while he can earn this easily on signature campaign.

[ScamViruS]

I wonder how he made the decision, he ruined his account reputation just for $90. I'm surprised he participated in the review campaign but didn't make that much effort to submit a review. This user may have intended to get such an amount and go offline with it, even if he has an active loan. But adding the review campaign fund and loan amount would not be such a big amount that he would scam it, but in fact he did it. I won't be surprised if he has more alt accounts.

Flag supported and Tagged.

[Nwada001]

I have also supported the flag. What I see is that payment was made upfront. I don't know if this is usual or what because I have never participated in review but I suppose that if the payment was made after submitting a satisfactory review instead of upfront, this wouldn't have happened. However, I understand that maybe the payment was made this way for simplicity and convenience.

I believe one of the reasons why the campaign manager and the project team paid upfront for the review was because the review itself will require participants to spend a few dollars in order to successfully try out all the features of the project.

The project had good intentions so that participants wouldn't complain about not having funds to pay for the review service. It's just so sad that someone out there decided to use that to their own advantage by scamming the $90.

[PX-Z]

What I see is that payment was made upfront. I don't know if this is usual or what because I have never participated in review but I suppose that if the payment was made after submitting a satisfactory review instead of upfront, this wouldn't have happened. However, I understand that maybe the payment was made this way for simplicity and convenience.

....

The project had good intentions so that participants wouldn't complain about not having funds to pay for the review service. It's just so sad that someone out there decided to use that to their own advantage by scamming the $90.

Paying upfront a way to encourage the quality poster users to participate with a risk since getting tagged and refunding the payment is mentioned on the rules if failed to review and/or if the review is not accepted by the manager. Reading such rules will filter already those who are capable of doing it, plus the experience if the manager to picked its participants. But unfortunately, things happens and was never come back online to explain his side if he really got problems irl including internet connections. But until then, these negative tags and flag will serve its purpose.

[virasog]

not sure which part of the Philippines he is from but it's possible that jamyr was affected by the recent typhoon here in the Philippines, that being said, refunding the money after failing to submit the review even after asking to extend the deadline would have been the right move. sorry you had to deal with this Royse777, Flag supported.

Some mishaps do happen in life but he could have let Royse777 know the situation and I am sure he would have come up with another extension or anything. 90$ is not that big amount and one should not ruin his reputation because of it.

I have also supported the flag. What I see is that payment was made upfront. I don't know if this is usual or what because I have never participated in review but I suppose that if the payment was made after submitting a satisfactory review instead of upfront, this wouldn't have happened. However, I understand that maybe the payment was made this way for simplicity and convenience.

This is only one off incident among so many other applicants. All of them were paid upfront and they did the job. If you are honest with your work, it does not matter if you get the payment upfront or after the work.

I guess he tried (successfully) to pull off an exit scam.

Exit scam    
A Senior Member account is not worth of mere 90$. This is suicide and not an exit scam.

[Learn Bitcoin]

I was just wondering why would a Sr. Member will scam a 90-100$ amount  

Some people has nothing to do with their ranks, as their main target is to get some money. No matter how. His 250 merits were air-dropped, and the other 100+ merits he earned in the last couple of years. When you see people not in a signature campaign and unable to earn ten merits in the last 120 days, they are unlikely to get hired by any campaign managers.

So if they didn't get any chance in any campaign, there is no money, and the account has no value. It's not safe to sell accounts as well. So, assume he destroyed his account for that $90. At least he was able to get some money. Sorry for your loss Royse777

[knowngunman]

I believe one of the reasons why the campaign manager and the project team paid upfront for the review was because the review itself will require participants to spend a few dollars in order to successfully try out all the features of the project.

The project had good intentions so that participants wouldn't complain about not having funds to pay for the review service. It's just so sad that someone out there decided to use that to their own advantage by scamming the $90.

Actually my first time seeing a company (project in this case) paying participants before the service. I applaud Royse777 for having the courage to undertake this innovation despite knowing that things like this are bound to happen. I presumed it immediately I saw the thread but I wasn't expecting participants to abscond with the payment but was expecting shitty review that will not get approval. It's greediness that made some of them to apply even knowing that they can not perform the tax efficiently. There was a report of copy and paraphrasing in that same review thread too.

The project want to make impression in the forum in my opinion. If it's the complaint of not having fund to carry out the review, I think a part payment would have been better and besides they are people who are ready to use their funds for the review pending payment and those who don't have fund should stay off. It's unfortunate losing senior member because of $90.

[Smartvirus]

I don't remember whether you had a minimum merit/120 days requirement for this review, but perhaps you might need an active account requirement as well, after this.

There was no 120 days merit requirement but a lifetime 50 earned merits + Full Member minimum rank.

See, that's the mistake. Assuming malicious applicants, what is there from stopping old, dormant accounts from before the merit system coming in and making applications?

Or people who've earned their 50 merit a year ago and hardly get a merit in 6 months?

These are exactly the kind of things that 120 day merit requirements stop, because it can identify the active, constructive user from the inactive user and also the spammers/bounty hunters/etc.

I think that wasn’t a consideration here and shouldn’t really be with the review being just a one time thing and merit requirement is not always an absolute judge.
Still, it was a duty Jamyr old his contractor to deliver or refund. At least the user had been active within the period of assigning the contract and had been on/off before that, perhaps few days or a week interval in between posts. It would have been much easer to read the detail contained in the OP carefully and take notes to when you could deliver on contract as the manager would have been open to accepting or giving directives on request.

It’s just becoming clear now that something has been going on with the account, following the series of password changes via email and secrete questions also, the not so activeness of the account but hey, his getting the other side of the bargain and it’s fine to say it’s okay.

[Fiatless]

I believe one of the reasons why the campaign manager and the project team paid upfront for the review was because the review itself will require participants to spend a few dollars in order to successfully try out all the features of the project.

The project had good intentions so that participants wouldn't complain about not having funds to pay for the review service. It's just so sad that someone out there decided to use that to their own advantage by scamming the $90.

Except the member in question has another reason for running away with $90, I never thought a senior member's account will compromise his account because of that sum. The time, input, and cost of data used to build this account are far more than the sum. And I believe this will be the assumption of the manager. He never thought a member with such rank will not honor the contract. I don't blame the campaign manager at all because what he did was to motivate participants to put in their best in the review. His action can discourage managers from paying upfront for a project. But I am glad that it is just one member that had this bad record, which means we have more trustworthy members in the forum.

[coin-investor]

Exit scam    
A Senior Member account is not worth of mere 90$. This is suicide and not an exit scam.

It's an exit scam for me, even if it's $50 or lower if the account is useless and he cannot get into a campaign that pays Bitcoin because he cannot keep up the competition among members who are vying to get into the campaign, he's just waiting for something like this to scam, he has a bad reputation of defaulting a loan and paying it several months later I don't think he can get all these feedback even if he comes back to pay the loan unless he has a strong reason or alibi.

[Nwada001]

Except the member in question has another reason for running away with $90, I never thought a senior member's account will compromise his account because of that sum. The time, input, and cost of data used to build this account are far more than the sum. And I believe this will be the assumption of the manager. He never thought a member with such rank will not honor the contract. I don't blame the campaign manager at all because what he did was to motivate participants to put in their best in the review. His action can discourage managers from paying upfront for a project. But I am glad that it is just one member that had this bad record, which means we have more trustworthy members in the forum.

This is just the thing about people and greed; the manager and the project team have done their part by trying to use a few criteria in judging who is qualified to be in the campaign and who is not, but it is obvious, just like you and other members have said, that the user will definitely have other accounts or the account might not be operated by the real owner, if not with such rank and the little reputation the account might have. $90 is very, very small to stockpile the account like that.

But I just hope the member is in some kind of contract that makes him very busy to the extent of forgetting this one, or their country, or whatever area that he might appear to be in is having some internet down time. I just hope the user can come out some day and refund the $90. Maybe the Manager will consider forgiving and all the negative tags will be changed to neutral or removed.

[Sim_card]

I have also supported the flag. What I see is that payment was made upfront. I don't know if this is usual or what because I have never participated in review but I suppose that if the payment was made after submitting a satisfactory review instead of upfront, this wouldn't have happened. However, I understand that maybe the payment was made this way for simplicity and convenience.

@Rose777 did the upfront payment for the review so that every member that is to partake in it will be motivated and have the  some funds to test the wallet and to also subscribe for the plan,so that there will be no excuse of lack of funds for testing because some users exhaust their weekly pay that same day that they receive it, but Jamyr has taken advantage of this by not giving OP a proper reason why he can't meet up with the review or he should have better still send back the funds to play safe.

[Woodie]

This is what happens when we don't read rules and jump to applying for a campaign all because of the rewards,  but either way for a high ranking member unacceptable course of action!

And the worst part about all this is the extra options given to complete the task or refund the bitcoins to avoid all this, and non have been met, flag supported 😐

[virasog]

I thought he might not be active on the forum recently but then I saw he was last active on August 05. He should have returned this amount if he could not review it or maybe he did not understand the Mixin safe project but whatever was the reason he should have been in communication with the manager.

To be honest, I had the slightest of hope, very little indeed, that he is offline on the forum and when he comes back he may either apologize, ask for an extension to submit the review or maybe submit the review as soon as he is online.

However, to my disappointment, nothing of this happened. I checked and he was online on August 16.



He did not even care to reply whatsoever on the situation. Perhaps he already knew the outcome and he had made up his mind that he will ruin his account for 90$.

[AB de Royse777]

I thought he might not be active on the forum recently but then I saw he was last active on August 05. He should have returned this amount if he could not review it or maybe he did not understand the Mixin safe project but whatever was the reason he should have been in communication with the manager.

To be honest, I had the slightest of hope, very little indeed, that he is offline on the forum and when he comes back he may either apologize, ask for an extension to submit the review or maybe submit the review as soon as he is online.

However, to my disappointment, nothing of this happened. I checked and he was online on August 16.



He did not even care to reply whatsoever on the situation. Perhaps he already knew the outcome and he had made up his mind that he will ruin his account for 90$.

He contacted me on Telegram. Let's see what happen.

[JeromeTash]

He contacted me on Telegram. Let's see what happen.

https://i.ibb.co/hY9mYnK/ss.png

Let's wait and see, but that was totally unacceptable and irresponsible of him. He had the time and internet to apply and even spend the Bitcoins that were sent to him, but he then suddenly didn't have time to make a simple review even after several reminders?

What a way to mess up a valuable account.

[coupable]

He contacted me on Telegram. Let's see what happen.

https://i.ibb.co/hY9mYnK/ss.png

Let's wait and see, but that was totally unacceptable and irresponsible of him. He had the time and internet to apply and even spend the Bitcoins that were sent to him, but he then suddenly didn't have time to make a simple review even after several reminders?

Personally, I do not think that he would risk losing his account for the sake of this small amount, especially since this would not have cost him more than trying the site and publishing the review. Maybe he did not imagine that the situation would become so complicated, and most likely he was confused about what position he should take to remedy the issue, and this is explained by his direct contact with Royse without him coming here and providing any explanation to all who left him negative feedbacks.
By verifying a little in his trust history, it appears that he has precedents for delay in payment, and he actually has an active loan in the amount of $ 40 Bitcoin since years ago from DS, which he has not repaid until today. I think that explains his bad habit.

[khaled0111]

The real question is why did he spend the money before testing the platform!
Royse sent the payment upfront to each one of the reviewers so they can test the platform without having to spend from their own pocket.
Spending the money elsewhere, being late to submit the review then coming back after receiving multiple red tags to simply say you are sorry and expect others to remove the red tags.. I don't think this is how things work here.

For the record, I didn't tag jamyr with a négatif feedback and I didn't support the flag against him.

[notblox1]

Flag supported.
I dont know how long someone can live in Philippines with 0.003 BTC, but this was so stupid from him to do
I think I saw jamyr writing in Gambling board before, but like I said yesterday - sadly this forum is full of scammers and cheaters who are waiting to stab someone in back  

He contacted me on Telegram. Let's see what happen.

This was 3 days ago, he was online but didnt reply anything.
He can still fix things if he returns money.

[CryptSafe]

I am still wondering what must have prompted his actions making him not to do the review for which he has been paid for. Looking at the fact that he is a senior member here with such rank considering the efforts he has put in to achieve that height, it is not what he should have kept mute over to not communicating with the manager to explaining things to him what he was going through or appeal for some time to be given to him.  $90 is not worth risking such account at  that rank.

In most cases some people choose to keep their private life and whatever they are going through privately to themselves. Irrespective of the circumstances surrounding them and looking at the way he withdrew the money it is either something was wrong or something else but from the screenshot of the conversation, it seems he has already made up his mind   to face the consequences of what ever comes his way.

[Nwada001]

He will return it as soon as he can.

which means the money was not just sent to a different address for safekeeping, privacy, or security, whatever the case may be, as I was assuming, but rather the money has already been spent.

No matter the time that it's going to cost him to return the fund, it might buy him some mercy from members, which they can either change their tag to neutral or leave it that way, which ever way, one thing is for sure that no manager will ever wan't to entrust this user with any kind of fund as an offront payment for a work not done yet..

[CryptSafe]

He will return it as soon as he can.

which means the money was not just sent to a different address for safekeeping, privacy, or security, whatever the case may be, as I was assuming, but rather the money has already been spent.

No matter the time that it's going to cost him to return the fund, it might buy him some mercy from members, which they can either change their tag to neutral or leave it that way, which ever way, one thing is for sure that no manager will ever wan't to entrust this user with any kind of fund as an offront payment for a work not done yet..

I think what he has done was wrong though. I was also of the view if he had informed the campaign  manager, he would have had a fair hearing and possibly an extension of time. From the looks, he might just have had a little issue but has not been able to say it out. I think he might likely return the money but the deed has been done. What is left for him to do now is to make refund. This would definitely make other managers come up with stringent rules while applying for review campaign of this nature in the future.

[nutildah]

Flag supported.
I dont know how long someone can live in Philippines with 0.003 BTC, but this was so stupid from him to do

Quite a while, actually... it could be a month's rent or a month's worth of food for some people. But the earnings potential from the un-tarnished account would have been much greater, of course.

No matter the time that it's going to cost him to return the fund, it might buy him some mercy from members, which they can either change their tag to neutral or leave it that way, which ever way, one thing is for sure that no manager will ever wan't to entrust this user with any kind of fund as an offront payment for a work not done yet..

And unfortunately the longer he waits, the less chance he has of everyone being around to remove their negative ratings. He probably is undergoing some unfortunate circumstance but hopefully realizes its in his best interest to resolve the situation.

[Bureau]

All he had to was to submit the review within the time allocated by the BM. A Senior Member destroying his reputation for such a small amount is just foolishness. After reading the chat I doubt he would refund that amount in the future. If he does then it will be good for him and if he doesn't then his future here is over.

[Nwada001]

And unfortunately the longer he waits, the less chance he has of everyone being around to remove their negative ratings. He probably is undergoing some unfortunate circumstance but hopefully realizes its in his best interest to resolve the situation.

Well, he alone knows what exactly the issue is, but if I were to be in his shoes and like someone who values their reputation very highly, I would just take a loan, probably outside this forum, maybe from relatives, and refund this payment now that I still have a higher chance of retaining some of my reputation, and then ask for the forgiveness of the campaign manager.
As this kind of Jamyr behavior can also likely jeopardize his chances of getting accepted in any of his future campaigns,

[ScamViruS]

All he had to was to submit the review within the time allocated by the BM. A Senior Member destroying his reputation for such a small amount is just foolishness. After reading the chat I doubt he would refund that amount in the future. If he does then it will be good for him and if he doesn't then his future here is over.

If he was not capable enough to review then there was no need to apply. But he disappeared with the funds without posting a review, the results of which are showing on his account. It's really a stupid move by this user to ruin the reputation of a senior member rank account like this.

I am still waiting for him to come back and refund the campaign money. Now it is to be seen whether he can refund the money, which he received in advance.

[UmerIdrees]

All he had to was to submit the review within the time allocated by the BM. A Senior Member destroying his reputation for such a small amount is just foolishness. After reading the chat I doubt he would refund that amount in the future. If he does then it will be good for him and if he doesn't then his future here is over.

It seems that he has already spent that 90$ somewhere else and he did not have money to review. Remember to review the Mixin Safe, we need to spend at least 2$ to upgrade and also some funds to deposit and withdrawals. Seems like he had no money left for all this and therefore he could not review.

Also if he returns this money anytime in future, would the tag be removed? I think some things are time bound and if you do not do the required actions within the specified time, you cannot be trusted.

I dont know how long someone can live in Philippines with 0.003 BTC, but this was so stupid from him to do

It's not about 0.003 BTC. If someone scams even 1 bitcoin, that money won't be helpful for that person. It may seem that he has got big money but in fact that money will be evil for him. People don't realize this and then cry later about why they are getting so many problems in life, It's because they are spending their lives with money earned through dishonesty and/or by scamming others.

[jamyr]

Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.


Apologies again Royse.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.


Apologies again Royse.

Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

[Poker Player]

Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

I think it's best not to be too harsh on him now that he's shown up here and says he's committed to repaying what he owes.

Yes you are right that what he has done is not logical, but sometimes we humans get carried away by emotions knowing that what we are doing is not right, like the problem gambler who knows what he is doing is wrong but continues to gamble and lose.

I supported the flag btw, that doesn't change.

[EarnOnVictor]

Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

I think it's best not to be too harsh on him now that he's shown up here and says he's committed to repaying what he owes.

Yes you are right that what he has done is not logical, but sometimes we humans get carried away by emotions knowing that what we are doing is not right, like the problem gambler who knows what he is doing is wrong but continues to gamble and lose.

I supported the flag btw, that doesn't change.

I see things differently here bro, I like to be fairly judgemental rather than emotional. This is so annoying, someone entrusted such an amount in your care and you just disappeared without communication. Coming to apologize still doesn't exonerate this guy and giving the excuse of an internet connection is a simple lie.

I don't know how you guys follow cases logically, I do very well, and I frown at people playing smart. You who didn't have an internet connection received money that can't be withdrawn without internet but could not send it back to the sender when you have the internet connection.

Common!!! He would have still earned the BTC if he did the job. His intention in collecting the money was not good from the onset though he might have a change of mind now. Maybe people who know him physically are now attacking him for his bad attitude or a conscience playing guilty. That's how I see it.

[decodx]

Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

I think it's best not to be too harsh on him now that he's shown up here and says he's committed to repaying what he owes.

Yes you are right that what he has done is not logical, but sometimes we humans get carried away by emotions knowing that what we are doing is not right, like the problem gambler who knows what he is doing is wrong but continues to gamble and lose.

I supported the flag btw, that doesn't change.

I see things differently here bro, I like to be fairly judgemental rather than emotional. This is so annoying, someone entrusted such an amount in your care and you just disappeared without communication. Coming to apologize still doesn't exonerate this guy and giving the excuse of an internet connection is a simple lie.

I don't know how you guys follow cases logically, I do very well, and I frown at people playing smart. You who didn't have an internet connection received money that can't be withdrawn without internet but could not send it back to the sender when you have the internet connection.

Common!!! He would have still earned the BTC if he did the job. His intention in collecting the money was not good from the onset though he might have a change of mind now. Maybe people who know him physically are now attacking him for his bad attitude or a conscience playing guilty. That's how I see it.

Was that really his excuse? No internet connection? I totally agree, that's quite a weak excuse in this day and age. Sure, unexpected situations can happen. Like, for instance, a natural disaster striking and leaving you without electricity and internet for a while. But unless you're living on Antarctica or on the Moon, it's hard to believe you can't get back online within a couple of weeks.

[examplens]

Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

What complicates things even more, Jamyr will no longer be able to participate in campaigns due to negative feedback. Therefore, returning bitcoins will be very difficult, even if it is a small sum of $78. I personally do not believe that he will return to the forum, at least not under this account. He lost all motivation to do so.

[ScamViruS]

Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.


Apologies again Royse.

You've been on this forum for years, and you've made a decision like this, it's disappointing. If you were a little more active and took some time to complete the review, you wouldn't be in this situation. The amount you have taken is not so big that you lose the ability to refund. If you are active in the forum you can earn this amount without losing your account reputation. But the decision you have made is disappointing to many. Like many, I think it's a question of whether you'll ever come back to this account.

[Igebotz]

I think it's best not to be too harsh on him now that he's shown up here and says he's committed to repaying what he owes.

Yes you are right that what he has done is not logical, but sometimes we humans get carried away by emotions knowing that what we are doing is not right, like the problem gambler who knows what he is doing is wrong but continues to gamble and lose.

I supported the flag btw, that doesn't change.

Anyone in his shoes could easily do what he did, but what he wrote up there has no substance. He clearly stated that he can't pay right now, it could be months, it could be years, it could be forever, and he hasn't shown any reasons why anyone shouldn't support the flag or why the company or Royse should hold back on his words. I expected him to show up with sufficient grounds and plans to resolve the situation, but he did the opposite.

It takes 35-45 mins to test and give a review- he's lazy and has no excuse. Flag supported.

[acroman08]

Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

What complicates things even more, Jamyr will no longer be able to participate in campaigns due to negative feedback. Therefore, returning bitcoins will be very difficult, even if it is a small sum of $78. I personally do not believe that he will return to the forum, at least not under this account. He lost all motivation to do so.

What makes it a lot more difficult than it already is, is that $78 is almost 1/4(sometimes even more than 1/4) of the total average monthly salary here in the Philippines.

Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.


Apologies again Royse.

I am not surprised that others are doubting you(including me) but Good luck, I hope you can pay back the 3mbtc as soon as possible even if it is just little by little.

[Ultegra134]

Sorry if this sounds too harsh and unreasonable to you , 0.003 btc is currently worth about $78, this is money you could earn ,and even more, every week if you join or joined a signature campaign, even if you are were not in a signature campaign at the time this happens , it is really stupid to allow your reputation, and a senior ranked account to be destroyed for what excuse exactly?, And for just a mere $78, it is just insane to be honest , or maybe you have other alt accounts and losing this one is not a problem for you , but then again , you messed up big , I hope you still refund the money regardless of the feedbacks , at least , to prove indeed that you have the intention to refund it in the first place .

I think it's best not to be too harsh on him now that he's shown up here and says he's committed to repaying what he owes.

Yes you are right that what he has done is not logical, but sometimes we humans get carried away by emotions knowing that what we are doing is not right, like the problem gambler who knows what he is doing is wrong but continues to gamble and lose.

I supported the flag btw, that doesn't change.

I see things differently here bro, I like to be fairly judgemental rather than emotional. This is so annoying, someone entrusted such an amount in your care and you just disappeared without communication. Coming to apologize still doesn't exonerate this guy and giving the excuse of an internet connection is a simple lie.

I don't know how you guys follow cases logically, I do very well, and I frown at people playing smart. You who didn't have an internet connection received money that can't be withdrawn without internet but could not send it back to the sender when you have the internet connection.

Common!!! He would have still earned the BTC if he did the job. His intention in collecting the money was not good from the onset though he might have a change of mind now. Maybe people who know him physically are now attacking him for his bad attitude or a conscience playing guilty. That's how I see it.

I've been watching this report since the day it was originally posted. Although I'd like to attempt to not be harsh against the accused, but he received payment in advance for a review he hadn't completed. Unfortunately, the OP shouldn't have paid in advance, but I'm guessing that he wasn't expecting an Sr. Member to scam him for such a minor amount. I'm siding with EarnOnVictor; he's right. The accused had plenty of chances to make up for the review he didn't complete, and on top of that, he is failing to return the money after he missed the deadline twice. If he wasn't capable of conducting the review, he shouldn't have gone ahead and accepted.

I understand the accused was perhaps in a dire situation to not be able to afford $80, but he should have been more considerate and gone ahead with the review, supposing that his side of the story is true. Now, for less than $80, he has permanently ruined his reputation and his chances of ever rejoining a signature campaign. An Sr. Member account could generate up to $150–$200 if he was willing to put in the necessary effort and create constructive content; such an account is worth much more than $80 in the long run.

Flag supported.

[Stalker22]

Unfortunately, the OP shouldn't have paid in advance, but I'm guessing that he wasn't expecting an Sr. Member to scam him for such a minor amount.
~

What do you mean by OP should not have paid in advance? Those were the campaign's terms, and they were in place to attract higher quality participants. There were a 100 participants in this campaign! And, just because of one bad apple...?  No, I do not agree with that. The OP went above and beyond to accommodate everyone, even allowing extensions for late reviews. And even after all that, jamyr had plenty of chances to return the money. Yet here we are, and he still has not. Even if he spent the money, he could have simply asked for a loan, which shouldn't have been a problem given the amount.

[Ultegra134]

Unfortunately, the OP shouldn't have paid in advance, but I'm guessing that he wasn't expecting an Sr. Member to scam him for such a minor amount.
~

What do you mean by OP should not have paid in advance? Those were the campaign's terms, and they were in place to attract higher quality participants. There were a 100 participants in this campaign! And, just because of one bad apple...?  No, I do not agree with that. The OP went above and beyond to accommodate everyone, even allowing extensions for late reviews. And even after all that, jamyr had plenty of chances to return the money. Yet here we are, and he still has not. Even if he spent the money, he could have simply asked for a loan, which shouldn't have been a problem given the amount.

I'm not saying that the OP is at fault. Certainly, there's a reason that the other 99 applicants went along and stuck with the original plan, to deliver a constructive review, in which the accused failed even after receiving an extension; these are the terms he agreed to. Royse is a well-known campaign manager; I understand the reason he did it, but it's how each individual has a different point of view. Personally, in the only review in which I participated a while ago, I completed the review and then got paid for it.

The worst of all is that he hasn't returned the money as he should have already. I understand that something unexpected might have happened, but in that case, if he's unable to deliver, it's mandatory to refund the manager immediately and have someone else fill the vacancy in the review campaign.

[holydarkness]

Unfortunately, the OP shouldn't have paid in advance, but I'm guessing that he wasn't expecting an Sr. Member to scam him for such a minor amount.
~

What do you mean by OP should not have paid in advance? Those were the campaign's terms, and they were in place to attract higher quality participants. There were a 100 participants in this campaign! And, just because of one bad apple...?  No, I do not agree with that. The OP went above and beyond to accommodate everyone, even allowing extensions for late reviews. And even after all that, jamyr had plenty of chances to return the money. Yet here we are, and he still has not. Even if he spent the money, he could have simply asked for a loan, which shouldn't have been a problem given the amount.

I'm not saying that the OP is at fault. Certainly, there's a reason that the other 99 applicants went along and stuck with the original plan, to deliver a constructive review, in which the accused failed even after receiving an extension; these are the terms he agreed to. Royse is a well-known campaign manager; I understand the reason he did it, but it's how each individual has a different point of view. Personally, in the only review in which I participated a while ago, I completed the review and then got paid for it.

The worst of all is that he hasn't returned the money as he should have already. I understand that something unexpected might have happened, but in that case, if he's unable to deliver, it's mandatory to refund the manager immediately and have someone else fill the vacancy in the review campaign.

The reason why payment paid in advance was because the review will require reviewers to deposit some funds into the platform. I am strongly assuming Royse arranged the advance payment so that the participants didn't have to use their own reserved capital to complete the task.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

Hello.

First, Id like to apologize to Royse and mixinsafe ,
I have my excuses but Royse was generous enough to have given me extension(s) so no excuse will make any difference.

As I have told Royse over tg, I have all the intention to refund the 300k sats. I just cant right now.
Thanks to those who contacted me btw about this, sorry to disappoint.You know who you are.


Apologies again Royse.

Judging from this statement and the post history of this user "jamyr", I just keep wondering how on earth was he even given an opportunity to run a review in the first place? Because though I can understand that the Mixin Safe review was as a result of "first come, first serve", but for me, I felt more other majors needed to have been put in place to offer choosing the wrong people for that job, just like what "jamyr" is saying right now. Because any reasonable human being, knowing the fact that you can't refund the money that have been paid for a review job, would have made an attempt to submit a review, even after the deadline, and left for the manager to accept it or not, but however, this user felt reluctant till this day, and still even has to mind to come up hear to say, "I can't refund the money"... WHAT A BOLDNESS!!

Who knows if it's not a Sr.Member account been manage by a Newbie...

Please, @ Sir Royse777... I will suggest people on campaign should be given top priority when selecting people for a review job in case of next time. Thanks

[notblox1]

If you fail to do what you sign up for and you repeat this action several times than you should not be trusted ever again.
Saying sorry without giving any estimate date when you could refund coins you received is bullshit.
jamyr deserve to be nominated in next competition as cheater or biggest fail of the year.

[holydarkness]

[...]
Please, @ Sir Royse777... I will suggest people on campaign should be given top priority when selecting people for a review job in case of next time. Thanks

As in people on the signature campaign of the platform that's about to be reviewed to be given top priority, e.g. suppose platform "A" have a signature campaign and happen to held a review campaign too, participants of "A" should be given priority against other users who doesn't wear their signature and/or people who wear signature "B"?

Though it has its own merit in form of that the participants will have [if they didn't already] a good grasp of the platform, I actually against this idea for numerous reasons. A sense of exclusivity for one. Two, a bias. Three, it hindered a chance of reviews from broader spectrum of people.

[jamyr]

I dont even oppose the flag except
the trust reference feedback was inaccurate.
It says 0.003+

(a single character ... this reminded me of that time when I first engaged in a convo with Royse)



Thanks for the Judgement I wish you guys were this engaged or enthusiastic back when I was  ... well that.

Bye for now.

[LoyceMobile]

What makes it a lot more difficult than it already is, is that $78 is almost 1/4(sometimes even more than 1/4) of the total average monthly salary here in the Philippines.

If I'd be given the opportunity to earn a week's worth of salary in a short amount of time, I'd take it!
I don't get it: if 0.003 Bitcoin is worth so much you can't even pay it back, wasting the opportunity to earn it is just stupid.

[SamReomo]

Please, @ Sir Royse777... I will suggest people on campaign should be given top priority when selecting people for a review job in case of next time. Thanks

Are you referring to people who are participating in campaigns managed by Royse777 or you're referring to those members who are participating in signature campaigns managed by other campaign managers?

If you're referring to the members who are currently accepted in Royse's managed campaigns than that would limit all those members of the forum who can contribute in a good way to a review campaign. And, that type of approach will be biased as well because many deserving members won't get the chance to participate in those review campaigns.

If you're referring to all those members who are currently accepted in a signature campaign managed by someone else than Royse then in that case the scenario will be similar. In that type of case, all top members of the forum who aren't accepted in a signature campaign would be deprived of taking part in those review campaigns. I don't think that a manager like Royse777 would ever do something like that because if a manager does that than many deserving members of the forum will be out of luck and they won't be able to avail such opportunities.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

[...]
Please, @ Sir Royse777... I will suggest people on campaign should be given top priority when selecting people for a review job in case of next time. Thanks

As in people on the signature campaign of the platform that's about to be reviewed to be given top priority, e.g. suppose platform "A" have a signature campaign and happen to held a review campaign too, participants of "A" should be given priority against other users who doesn't wear their signature and/or people who wear signature "B"?

Please, @ Sir Royse777... I will suggest people on campaign should be given top priority when selecting people for a review job in case of next time. Thanks

Are you referring to people who are participating in campaigns managed by Royse777 or you're referring to those members who are participating in signature campaigns managed by other campaign managers?

It seems both of you are getting me wrong when I said people on campaign should be given a top priority first, because what I meant is people on campaign generally (i.e active forum users) and not users who just come to drop post on this forum once in a while, just in the case of this user accused of not submitting his/her review (i.e you can check his/her post history and you will notice he/she rarely post, which also means he/she is not always active on this forum).

So in general, what I mean is that people on campaign, not minding whether it's been manage by Royse777, Hhampuz, Icopress e.t.c, as long as they are on campaign and they are always active on this forum, they should be given priority first, than people who just come to visit the forum once in a while.

[_BlackStar]

-snip-

So in general, what I mean is that people on campaign, not minding whether it's been manage by Royse777, Hhampuz, Icopress e.t.c, as long as they are on campaign and they are always active on this forum, they should be given priority first, than people who just come to visit the forum once in a while.

Priority is up to the manager because he is the one who has the policy about who will be accepted and who will not - but it's a advice that might be considered.

Users who post regularly are expected to make more sense to participate in any campaign - but that doesn't mean users who post occasionally should be turned down all without exception. Regular users are likely to be expected because they are more likely to stay abreast of any developments than those who don't - but this also comes at the discretion of the manager. Nobody expected this to happen - but it is a reality.

[Bitcoin_Arena]

I dont even oppose the flag except
the trust reference feedback was inaccurate.
It says 0.003+

(a single character ... this reminded me of that time when I first engaged in a convo with Royse)

Yep, if you look at it critically, it's actually 0.003+ BTC. You took the money and spent it, wasted the time of the manager and caused damages to the client even after several deadlines. Yes. You owe them 0.003+ BTC
If you weren't up to the task, then what was the point of even joining the review campaign in the first place?

[acroman08]

What makes it a lot more difficult than it already is, is that $78 is almost 1/4(sometimes even more than 1/4) of the total average monthly salary here in the Philippines.

If I'd be given the opportunity to earn a week's worth of salary in a short amount of time, I'd take it!
I don't get it: if 0.003 Bitcoin is worth so much you can't even pay it back, wasting the opportunity to earn it is just stupid.

Yeah, I completely agree with you, I'd take it too and would be wasting that opportunity.

I don't get it: if 0.003 Bitcoin is worth so much you can't even pay it back, wasting the opportunity to earn it is just stupid.

True, and I agree, wasting the opportunity is stupid. In my first post in this thread, I mentioned that jamyr could have been affected by the typhoon that hit the country last month, the thypoon left a lot of damages so I could understand if he couldn't finish the task because of the typhoon, but taking the money is just wrong. just to clear things up, this is just an assumption, I don't know wich part of the country he is from and I am not 100% certain whether the thypoon is the reason why he couldn't finish the review but it is the plausible reason I could think of.

[CryptoHeadlineNews]

I don't get it: if 0.003 Bitcoin is worth so much you can't even pay it back, wasting the opportunity to earn it is just stupid.

True, and I agree, wasting the opportunity is stupid. In my first post in this thread, I mentioned that jamyr could have been affected by the typhoon that hit the country last month, the typhoon left a lot of damages so I could understand if he couldn't finish the task because of the typhoon, but taking the money is just wrong. just to clear things up, this is just an assumption, I don't know wich part of the country he is from and I am not 100% certain whether the thypoon is the reason why he couldn't finish the review but it is the plausible reason I could think of.

Please, let's stop trying to play the safe game here @ "acroman08", because did the accused person say anything about him being affected by the typhoon that hit the country last month just as you said? Please let's just stop making assumptions while the person in question hasn't altered a single word. He is guilty and should accept the fact that he is, and just send the money back without trying to play safe because what will take of him if really he was either sick or affected by a natural disaster to come onto the forum, complain to the manager about his/her latest challenge, because I'm sure Sir Royse777 would have definitely understood and extended his deadline, but yet he never did any of that.

[AB de Royse777]

I dont even oppose the flag except
the trust reference feedback was inaccurate.
It says 0.003+

(a single character ... this reminded me of that time when I first engaged in a convo with Royse)

How can you forget the value that was damaged?

Don't tell me it's a free money I gave you to hold for me. Even a personal loan in the forum will add a daily interest.
Where is the price of the time I have wasted waiting for your review, wrote you several times, then extended the campaign again to find a replacement for you.
Where is the price of the time I spent to adjust the fund in the escrow wallet, several extra transactions between my own wallet and escrow wallet just because you failed.

The wasted amount of time + the hassle + the extra load of work + other many factors.
Add all then the damage may worth more 0.003 BTC.

Would you settle it for 0.006 BTC? I will gladly  remove the "+".

[acroman08]

I don't get it: if 0.003 Bitcoin is worth so much you can't even pay it back, wasting the opportunity to earn it is just stupid.

True, and I agree, wasting the opportunity is stupid. In my first post in this thread, I mentioned that jamyr could have been affected by the typhoon that hit the country last month, the typhoon left a lot of damages so I could understand if he couldn't finish the task because of the typhoon, but taking the money is just wrong. just to clear things up, this is just an assumption, I don't know wich part of the country he is from and I am not 100% certain whether the thypoon is the reason why he couldn't finish the review but it is the plausible reason I could think of.

Please, let's stop trying to play the safe game here @ "acroman08", because did the accused person say anything about him being affected by the typhoon that hit the country last month just as you said? Please let's just stop making assumptions while the person in question hasn't altered a single word. He is guilty and should accept the fact that he is, and just send the money back without trying to play safe because what will take of him if really he was either sick or affected by a natural disaster to come onto the forum, complain to the manager about his/her latest challenge, because I'm sure Sir Royse777 would have definitely understood and extended his deadline, but yet he never did any of that.

Huh? play safe? who said he isn't guilty? because I never said he wasn't, I even said he should have informed Royse if he was affected by the typhoon or not and he should have just refunded the money instead of scamming. you should read my previous posts to understand why I replied like that to LoyceV's post.

[holydarkness]

I dont even oppose the flag except
the trust reference feedback was inaccurate.
It says 0.003+

(a single character ... this reminded me of that time when I first engaged in a convo with Royse)



Thanks for the Judgement I wish you guys were this engaged or enthusiastic back when I was  ... well that.

Bye for now.

Technically, the "+" is kinda justified. Other than the extra fees he mentioned above [time, tx fee, workload, etc.] there's the obvious conversion rate. If we suppose you "loaned" from Royse, with the term to return it on the exact USD value, where at that time, the rate is around 30,000ish USD, you earned 90 USD, and as per the current rate is 26,000ish, you kinda "owed" 0.0034... btc, thus, 0.003+

Even if we lock the rate at when Royse asked for refund, 6th of August, BTC rate at that time was roughly 29,000, so it'll still be 0.0031..., still a 0.003+

[examplens]

I dont even oppose the flag except
the trust reference feedback was inaccurate.
It says 0.003+

(a single character ... this reminded me of that time when I first engaged in a convo with Royse)

Do you really come here to complain about inaccurate feedback because of "+"?
At the same time, I didn't see that you gave any plan for paying off the debt.

Thanks for the Judgement I wish you guys were this engaged or enthusiastic back when I was  ... well that.

Are you being sarcastic here or what?

[hugeblack]

the trust reference feedback was inaccurate.
It says 0.003+

(a single character ... this reminded me of that time when I first engaged in a convo with Royse)

I searched in the comments of the trust and found that I was the only one who used the wording of 0.003+. the + sign after the number indicates that there is an additional task that was supposed to be done for that amount.

In general, I reviewed the response before editing, and this line was not present, so I think that you are trying to find a moral justification for your scam. I just hope you remember that money doesn't grow on trees and give back money, trust can be earned and it will generate more money instead of quick 0.003 BTC.

[holydarkness]

the trust reference feedback was inaccurate.
It says 0.003+

(a single character ... this reminded me of that time when I first engaged in a convo with Royse)

I searched in the comments of the trust and found that I was the only one who used the wording of 0.003+. the + sign after the number indicates that there is an additional task that was supposed to be done for that amount.

In general, I reviewed the response before editing, and this line was not present, so I think that you are trying to find a moral justification for your scam. I just hope you remember that money doesn't grow on trees and give back money, trust can be earned and it will generate more money instead of quick 0.003 BTC.

Umm... a bit correction, if I may? No, you're not alone. Royse also leave a feedback with 0.003+

[Adbitco]

I was just wondering why would a Sr. Member will scam a 90-100$ amount  

This account may have an army of alt accounts, or this account may have been sold/hacked^[1]. I am not good at finding alt accounts, but if a topic was created about it, we may find an alt account in one of the active campaigns and be able to recover your money.

I have tagged jamyr red and I support the flag. At least if he has no time for the review, he can send the money back. To send bitcoin from a wallet takes just little time.

I'm not going to delete it and will change it into natural trust it if it gets resolved but I do remember coming across this account username somewhere.

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I think lovesmayfamilis and some others are the proper person who may look into that account to find out if there is alt because receiving payment without completing task is something very bad especially when the said user couldn't meet up with the review why not he refund his or her money as clearly stated. Lastly for a user to be comfortably relaxed without making moved to refunds show that there are lots of Alt maybe he has sacrifice to lose the account without thinking twice.

[Gladitorcomeback]

the trust reference feedback was inaccurate.
It says 0.003+  

Royse has explained you and i hope you have no words after that but still if you are unhappy with plus sign then don't worry, you just pay 0.003 Btc to which you scammed and i will pay + from your side. are you agree now?

If you are real owner of this account then still you have 37$ in your wallet and you should pay back because you are excusing that you have no fund..

current Fund in your wallets:
0x84c5ad0de7c8327109f79a98a3ddced8879bf15e : 37$ worth of Eth

used this address in 2020 for [BOUNTY] Emporium.Finance bounty.
https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5291652.msg55704033#msg55704033

I think lovesmayfamilis and some others are the proper person who may look into that account to find out if there is alt because receiving payment without completing task is something very bad especially when the said user couldn't meet up with the review why not he refund his or her money as clearly stated. Lastly for a user to be comfortably relaxed without making moved to refunds show that there are lots of Alt maybe he has sacrifice to lose the account without thinking twice.

Yes this is right choice and all big scam buster (Lovemyfamilis, Nutildah and light_warrior) could easily expose but problem is that without strong evidence no one can be mark alt of this Jamyr.

[Ultegra134]

What makes it a lot more difficult than it already is, is that $78 is almost 1/4(sometimes even more than 1/4) of the total average monthly salary here in the Philippines.

If I'd be given the opportunity to earn a week's worth of salary in a short amount of time, I'd take it!
I don't get it: if 0.003 Bitcoin is worth so much you can't even pay it back, wasting the opportunity to earn it is just stupid.

Certainly, even though I'm not situated in a third-world country as others mentioned, $80 for a job that would require me to work for 2-3 hours at most is a bargain. I didn't make that amount of money in two days when I was working, let alone now that I'm practically unemployed. The accused had a simple job that he agreed to do, and assuming that he didn't have the time, he should have turned down the offer and returned the money immediately. It's astonishing that such opportunities do not come often on the forum; I myself hadn't noticed it, because if I did, I'd be willing to participate. On top of that, a successful review would open up more opportunities in the future; how can someone not see this?

And I don't understand—is the accused being ironic now? What is this reply, "Bye for now"? I don't get it; is he implying that he's not going to return the money after apologizing in the first place? I'm not against charging interest, since that's how a loan would act, but in the meantime, it's of outmost importance for even the starting 0.003 BTC to be returned.

[light_warrior]

Yes this is right choice and all big scam buster (Lovemyfamilis, Nutildah and light_warrior) could easily expose but problem is that without strong evidence no one can be mark alt of this Jamyr.

At least one alt this jamyr has. I think that's pretty strong evidence that these two accounts are connected.

jamyr
piso456

Proof

So now I found out that staking an address here, is one of the important things member should do.

3KspKgdjq8wqH2ia173EhboRHugk436gjK

The above address is my main address, it is a coins.ph wallet.

1JAMYRoaPiqK4PStwMpKyWH3S5x6DvHRM

This other address is a blockchain.info address.

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Address:
1JAMYRoaPiqK4PStwMpKyWH3S5x6DvHRM

---Message:
This is jamyr, I have locked myself out of bitcointalk. Please help me unlock it.
end Message---

---signature:
G7RhyE1X3c6x/tJGB+gSWBl+tlst+jrDKpBCjuh6SGmNNV5IwV4f4KzE+UaSJJ4zuTZQg3TqGalj2uorKIJcEfc=
end signature----

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[Ultegra134]

Yes this is right choice and all big scam buster (Lovemyfamilis, Nutildah and light_warrior) could easily expose but problem is that without strong evidence no one can be mark alt of this Jamyr.

At least one alt this jamyr has. I think that's pretty strong evidence that these two accounts are connected.

jamyr
piso456

Proof

So now I found out that staking an address here, is one of the important things member should do.

3KspKgdjq8wqH2ia173EhboRHugk436gjK

The above address is my main address, it is a coins.ph wallet.

1JAMYRoaPiqK4PStwMpKyWH3S5x6DvHRM

This other address is a blockchain.info address.

[ Archive ]

Address:
1JAMYRoaPiqK4PStwMpKyWH3S5x6DvHRM

---Message:
This is jamyr, I have locked myself out of bitcointalk. Please help me unlock it.
end Message---

---signature:
G7RhyE1X3c6x/tJGB+gSWBl+tlst+jrDKpBCjuh6SGmNNV5IwV4f4KzE+UaSJJ4zuTZQg3TqGalj2uorKIJcEfc=
end signature----

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The account does belong to user Jamyr; however, in the thread you quoted, I'm understanding that he's trying to recover his account, which for some reason he has lost access to. Moreover, this alt account hasn't been used since November 2022, but it seems that the two accounts were used simultaneously at some point. It's intriguing that the alt account was created two months after the account named "Jamyr", so I wouldn't rule out the possibility of him purchasing the account after some time. However, there's no evidence to back up such a statement.