AfreecaTV StarCraft League Season 16 Prediction and Info Thread

[owengtam09]

^  Lol.  No need to 'build' a PC for a very old game.  Any decent hardware would do.  What you need to buy is a gaming mouse and a nice keyboard...  It doesn't have to be one of those keyboards with special key caps.  Most keyboards would do.  But yeah, gaming mouse is a must.  It just makes everything feel fast and accurate...  Makes it easier to micro.

I'm watching Ro16 Group C now.  No bets tho.  I lost some money with Adesanaya being on top of all my parlays.  Lol.  I thought I was gonna have a decent night. 

You will be surprised by the level of PC that I got and it is already broken so never mind about it, I was just borrowing a laptop so I am going to assemble my own so instead of getting a lower spec one I am thinking of building a PC that is high-end, and everyone surely loves a high-end PC right, well actually playing starcraft in this borrowed laptop but eventually, this one will be used Soon by our student for school purposed but the high-end that I will be building will be for gaming and work-related,

Well, back on the AfreecaTV StarCraft League Remastered Season 16 Tomorrow September 18, there will be a game for the tournament Rush (Terran) vs. Hero (Zerg) in this match Rush dominated Group B 2 - 0 while hero was 2nd place in Group C with 2 - 1 for sure it could be Rush that may win this match, but I can not say for sure as Zerg can immediately spawn Zerglings to destroy those tactics of Terran so this is an interesting match and could be apply on an actual game,

[tokeweed]

^  Yup..  Here's the brackets for quarters, semis and the finals.  Quarter finals are Bo5 games, while the semis and the final are Bo7 games



My picks from each of the match ups are Rush, Soulkey, Mini and Action.  NFA but I might make a small bet on Rush, if I win that I drop everything on Soulkey tomorrow.    So I hope I win the first bet.

And it's nice to see Rollbit have a market for it now.  So I guess I'll post that here instead of Stake's lines.

https://rollbit.com/sports?bt-path=%2Fstarcraft-112

Anyway, event starts in around 25 mins.  Have fun and good luck to the one follower of this thread.  

Korean Stream:  http://play.afreecatv.com/afstar1

English Stream:  http://play.afreecatv.com/dth03119

[owengtam09]

Nice! For sure you won today's game and the streaming was finished I missed the game for sure but surely Rush will go into the Semifinals, here is the update for the tournament chart,



For sure the game was really interesting even though I still haven't watched it yet, my mind was just flying on what had happened with the game how the Terran defeated the Zerg, and how Rush dominated the game against a Zerg player hero because I know that Zerg is pretty much a difficult match-up for the Terran I surely want to know what strategy did Rush do because Zerg players can be aggressive and greedy in attacking with a Zergling troops for sure this is what most Zerg's do but maybe Terran build a barracks early on with the Zerg's mining field, but a hunch, but maybe will wait for the video so I can surely watch it,

[tokeweed]

^  The typical opening for a Terran player playing vs a Zerg player is to go double barracks at the start and pump out marines as fast as possible while teching up to get some medics and fire bats out there plus the stim pack and long range upgrades.  It's also very important to get the scan add on for the command center.

Here's the vid of Rush vs Hero with Artosis and Tasteless at the commentary.

ASL 16 Quarter Final Match1 Rush vs herO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbs6PpnHmVM

Next vid will prolly be up in a couple of days.  I won't spoil the results but you prolly already know who Rush's opponent is at the semis.

[owengtam09]

^  The typical opening for a Terran player playing vs a Zerg player is to go double barracks at the start and pump out marines as fast as possible while teching up to get some medics and fire bats out there plus the stim pack and long range upgrades.  It's also very important to get the scan add on for the command center.

Here's the vid of Rush vs Hero with Artosis and Tasteless at the commentary.

ASL 16 Quarter Final Match1 Rush vs herO
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Mbs6PpnHmVM

Next vid will prolly be up in a couple of days.  I won't spoil the results but you prolly already know who Rush's opponent is at the semis.

Thanks for the video I was surely learning but still not as good as the guys in the tournament for sure the technique and strategies you can not think that it is possible for an old game like Starcraft it was surely interesting for competitive starcraft, and that Typical Strategy with the Terran for sure was the Barracks start-up for sure after hearing this and seeing the fights of Rush and hero it was really a great fight for sure at least I got an idea on how to play Zerg now I also got an idea and strategy on how to play as Terran as well, so it was some knowledge regarding the start-up of the fight for sure it is surely an interesting strategy,

Looking at the tournament itself I see that Soulkey won against  JyJ and it was an interesting game as well it was another Zerg vs. Terran game but for sure the next game I think the game today was Terran Against Protoss, and actually I also want to see the strategy for the Protoss as well, and it is Sharp against Mini this time,



This is the Bracket for the tournament AfreecaTV StarCraft League Season 16

[tokeweed]

^  Another way to learn a lot faster is to download saved game replays.  Not sure where to download these days but they shouldn't be too hard to find.  You guys are lucky there's replay feature.  Before people had to scour the internet to find strategy guides, VOD's and find other people to talk about SC/BW.  Now it's a lot easier.

Anyway here's the updated bracket with all of the quarter finals over and done with.  I think Rush and Mini go through..  Eerrr or hopefully go through. I want a Mini vs Rush final.  Lol.  



And the market for Rush vs Soulkey is up at Stake with both at dead evens.  :/

https://stake.com/sports/starcraft-1/international-14/asl-season-16

I wonder how Mini and Effort's lines will look.  I think they'll prolly give it around 1.50 - 1.60 for Mini.

[tokeweed]

The lines for Mini vs Effort is up at Stake with Effort as the slight favorite which is surprising imho.  Mini is a tad better SC player.

Oh and as for Rush vs Soulkey, just a little tip.  If you're betting on Rush there's a slightly better line at Rollbit.    Small difference with Stake so I don't think it could be considered a stale line.  Small bet should be safe from getting cancelled.

Here are the rest of the vids in the quarter finals...

ASL S16 RO.8 Match2 SoulKey vs JyJ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JkwJ_OHJBzU

ASL S16 RO.8 Match3 Sharp vs Mini
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szEuJuwWCAw

ASL S15 RO.8 Match4 effOrt vs Action
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3nqOJlWGXpI

[owengtam09]

^  Another way to learn a lot faster is to download saved game replays.  Not sure where to download these days but they shouldn't be too hard to find.  You guys are lucky there's replay feature.  Before people had to scour the internet to find strategy guides, VOD's and find other people to talk about SC/BW.  Now it's a lot easier.

Anyway here's the updated bracket with all of the quarter finals over and done with.  I think Rush and Mini go through..  Eerrr or hopefully go through. I want a Mini vs Rush final.  Lol.  



And the market for Rush vs Soulkey is up at Stake with both at dead evens.  :/

https://stake.com/sports/starcraft-1/international-14/asl-season-16

I wonder how Mini and Effort's lines will look.  I think they'll prolly give it around 1.50 - 1.60 for Mini.

WOW! Thanks for telling me about the game replays for sure it will be helpful indeed, and nice one, I was really enjoying using the Zerg more but eventually switching to Terran at times but mostly using the Zerg I like how I aggressively attack the mines of other players with the Zerglings it was a fast pace fight but surely I want using Hydralis more with the Zerg for sure that is the most powerful unit in this race well because Hydralis can destroy both air and land unit and a swarm of Hydralis means you eventually won the game

And I totally missed the games for the Sharp vs Mini, and the EffOrt vs Action as well for sure Mini with the Protoss race has won against the Sharp's Terran race units, and with the EffOrt's Zerg race with Action's Zerg race sure EffOrt's using Zerg was quite unique and winning the game with a 3 - 0 score for sure I want to watch the Zerg VS Zerg fight if the video is available,

Semi-Finals are starting and it is between Rush vs Soulkey and Mini vs EffOrt for the date of October 4, and 5 the Semi-Finals will be a great watch for sure if I could guess who's going to face in the finals I think it will be Rush and the EffOrt just a wild guess on who's going to face in the finals on this season for sure this is just a guess but for sure I need to see their strategies for the games,

[tokeweed]

^  Did you watch the semi final match vs Rush vs Soulkey?  I'm not gonna spoil it to you if you haven't.  But man!  What a greeaaat match up between these two.  Not one was giving up and had to do what they needed to do to win a match and get to the next match.  It was really good.

And if I were you, I'd wait for the commnentaries by Artosis and Tasteless.  It's really worth to wait for a couple of days.  I will post it here once it's up...  Man what a good match.

I hope the next match up with Mini and Effort tomorrow is just as good.  I got Mini.

[owengtam09]

^  Did you watch the semi final match vs Rush vs Soulkey?  I'm not gonna spoil it to you if you haven't.  But man!  What a greeaaat match up between these two.  Not one was giving up and had to do what they needed to do to win a match and get to the next match.  It was really good.

And if I were you, I'd wait for the commnentaries by Artosis and Tasteless.  It's really worth to wait for a couple of days.  I will post it here once it's up...  Man what a good match.

I hope the next match up with Mini and Effort tomorrow is just as good.  I got Mini.

Nope, I haven't watched it yet, and Yup! I am waiting for the Commentaries so I can watch it in English, Thanks your providing the link for me for sure I am learning so much when it comes to StarCraft for sure and really enjoying it at the same time, actually it was great if you were working at something and really enjoying it at the same time that is pretty much awesome for sure

It is the latest video of Rush VS Soulkey https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A2n5vRey49w

Sure Soulkey is a beast on that map he was really well aware of the Maps, but surely Rush has closed the game it was not enough for Rush and it is great that many have predicted that the game will be a 3 - 4 win for soul key and it was really an accurate prediction for sure as the game ended in 3 - 4 win for Soulkey for sure, and the Maps has a large effect on the game as Rush is picking the 1st map then Soulkey's next and up to Set 7 picks it really was a great exchange but Soulkey manage to defeated the Terran of Rush with his Zerg for sure,

[tokeweed]

^  Watch this one with Artosis and Tasteless in the commentary booth.  They're the original commentators of the show and they give the best English commentary in the ASL bar none.

[ENG] ASL Season16 Ro.4 Match1 Rush vs SoulKey (Tastosis)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIALkFIzjHw

And here's the other semi final with Mini vs Effort.  Nothing to spoil as it wasn't too exciting.  Lol.

[ENG] ASL Season16 Ro.4 Match2 Mini vs effOrt (Tastosis)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=608lhcWH52I

And sure man...  I like getting stuff up I'm interested in and make bets at here in BCT.  It's fun trying to get people into StarCraft betting or just get people to watch the matches.  It's a really good game which the SC tourney scene should be bigger than how it is now tbh.

Early lines for the finals on October 15 are up at Stake.  Mini at 1.80 and Soulkey at 1.90.  Leaning Mini but after seeing what Soulkey did to Rush I don't know...

[owengtam09]

^  Watch this one with Artosis and Tasteless in the commentary booth.  They're the original commentators of the show and they give the best English commentary in the ASL bar none.

[ENG] ASL Season16 Ro.4 Match1 Rush vs SoulKey (Tastosis)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sIALkFIzjHw

And here's the other semi final with Mini vs Effort.  Nothing to spoil as it wasn't too exciting.  Lol.

[ENG] ASL Season16 Ro.4 Match2 Mini vs effOrt (Tastosis)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=608lhcWH52I

And sure man...  I like getting stuff up I'm interested in and make bets at here in BCT.  It's fun trying to get people into StarCraft betting or just get people to watch the matches.  It's a really good game which the SC tourney scene should be bigger than how it is now tbh.

Early lines for the finals on October 15 are up at Stake.  Mini at 1.80 and Soulkey at 1.90.  Leaning Mini but after seeing what Soulkey did to Rush I don't know...

You also brought me to try out the game as I was only watching my friends back then after school going in and renting a PC from the shop then just watching them play Starcraft of Warcraft back then I pretty much just had the idea of the game but the feel into playing it this is really my 1st time playing this, so Thank you I just didn't get the urge in playing the game because it was really old, but for sure Old games are gold, as the saying goes, for sure I was really wrong for not trying it out sooner and I am surely learning new Strategies while watching this videos you provided so thanks to that

While in the Tournament I was shocked to see Soulkey defeat Rush I almost thick that Rush could win against him because he got it 2 times in a row 1st but Soulkey in his later games is not really pressured at all but keeps on getting into it more confident and more stronger for sure, and so we will be seeing a finals for Mini VS Soulkey

[tokeweed]

^  Wait til you play the game 1v1 vs someone irl or online.  There's just nothing like SC when you get a bit decent in playing it enougn to play online.  I tried some games after SC back in the day and I couldn't say that they gave me the same rush as SC did.

And yup, not really sure what happened with Rush except that when he was rushed early by Soulkey, he wasn't able to hold the game enough to give him time to make enough units vs Soulkey's next wave of attacks.  Would've loved a TvP final with Rush and Mini. 

[owengtam09]

^  Wait til you play the game 1v1 vs someone irl or online.  There's just nothing like SC when you get a bit decent in playing it enougn to play online.  I tried some games after SC back in the day and I couldn't say that they gave me the same rush as SC did.

And yup, not really sure what happened with Rush except that when he was rushed early by Soulkey, he wasn't able to hold the game enough to give him time to make enough units vs Soulkey's next wave of attacks.  Would've loved a TvP final with Rush and Mini. 

For sure that would be a great game if I could compete with other players online, but for now, I am still familiarizing myself with the unit ability and what to build with the Zerg to make the offense faster and the defense smoother for sure, but I am surely going there, and by the way I have downloaded Broodwars version what is the difference with the Expansion and the remastered version is there a additional map or units with those patches? or they don't have any difference with the Broodwars version, because I will likely just go on with the Broodwars version any suggestions about this?

Sure If there were another rematch between Rush and Soulkey I really think that Rush really needs time to develop a plan to defeat Soulkey for sure but if there likely another game for the two may be a conclusion but the match was pretty close, but for sure I am now excited for the Mini VS Soulkey,

[tokeweed]

^  I'm not sure if the patches are updated in the original version of SC/BW but I'm sure that there are no differences between the original and remastered except for the graphics.  And if ever the patches in the original are not up to date, there are only minor differences.  I don't even think they changed anything much like spell damage, attack damage and the like.  That's usually what the devs change to make the game more balanced.

As for installing the game in the original, always install the expansion aka Broodwar.  No one plays vanilla Starcraft since the expansion came out.  It's always with Broodwar on.  Do the same with remastered.

[darkangel11]

^  Wait til you play the game 1v1 vs someone irl or online.  There's just nothing like SC when you get a bit decent in playing it enougn to play online.

I'd say there is - SC2.

I haven't followed the SC1 scene since I finished high school. Back in the day we'd play on LAN with friends and my first ever PvP experience was playing on a 2 PC LAN setup with a friend.
We had to move the computer from one house to the other and then another friend saw us playing and wanted to join, so we had to carry another computer. It wasn't easy since we all had CRT monitors and these things were bulky.

I didn't know the scene was still active. Last time I heard about it the news said Korean TV is no longer going to transmit it and Artosis came back to the US because RTS popularity was declining fast and being taken over by MOBA.

SC is probably the most difficult online game to play on a competitive level. You have to be a total no life with very fast hands to be good in this game.  

[owengtam09]

^  I'm not sure if the patches are updated in the original version of SC/BW but I'm sure that there are no differences between the original and remastered except for the graphics.  And if ever the patches in the original are not up to date, there are only minor differences.  I don't even think they changed anything much like spell damage, attack damage and the like.  That's usually what the devs change to make the game more balanced.

As for installing the game in the original, always install the expansion aka Broodwar.  No one plays vanilla Starcraft since the expansion came out.  It's always with Broodwar on.  Do the same with remastered.

I surely think that I have downloaded the Broodwars Expansion and it is good for sure but yeah playing the game for almost a week now if I am not mistaken, I lost many Computer fights versus Terran, and actually, I am still training with the Zerg Colony and still Learning some things actually I think I got the portable installation of the game here are the Screen Shots of the Starcraft game that I have downloaded,



Actually, I am really challenged with this game, and more than what I know in Battle Realms this is unique and has a lot of different learning for sure because I thought just because I have played Battle Realms before I would eventually master this game but there was a very difficult factor that wasn't on the Battle Realms game

I'd say there is - SC2.

I haven't followed the SC1 scene since I finished high school. Back in the day we'd play on LAN with friends and my first ever PvP experience was playing on a 2 PC LAN setup with a friend.
We had to move the computer from one house to the other and then another friend saw us playing and wanted to join, so we had to carry another computer. It wasn't easy since we all had CRT monitors and these things were bulky.

I didn't know the scene was still active. Last time I heard about it the news said Korean TV is no longer going to transmit it and Artosis came back to the US because RTS popularity was declining fast and being taken over by MOBA.

SC is probably the most difficult online game to play on a competitive level. You have to be a total no life with very fast hands to be good in this game.  

Welcome darkangel11, actually, I was also shocked like you that the old Starcraft game was still alive and getting a tournament of its own it was really a great game if it is still alive and has a community like this that still Supports it even though there are now a Starcraft 2 available for them to be played but the Starcraft 1 is still  this alive and right now I think the Final game for the Tournament AfreecaTV StarCraft League Remastered Season 16 will be October 15, 2023 - 14:00 PHT Soulkey VS Mini,

[tokeweed]

^  Wait til you play the game 1v1 vs someone irl or online.  There's just nothing like SC when you get a bit decent in playing it enougn to play online.

I'd say there is - SC2.

I haven't followed the SC1 scene since I finished high school. Back in the day we'd play on LAN with friends and my first ever PvP experience was playing on a 2 PC LAN setup with a friend.
We had to move the computer from one house to the other and then another friend saw us playing and wanted to join, so we had to carry another computer. It wasn't easy since we all had CRT monitors and these things were bulky.

I didn't know the scene was still active. Last time I heard about it the news said Korean TV is no longer going to transmit it and Artosis came back to the US because RTS popularity was declining fast and being taken over by MOBA.

SC is probably the most difficult online game to play on a competitive level. You have to be a total no life with very fast hands to be good in this game.  

SC2?  I'd say nope if you have played a lot of SC/BW.  Dunno man but SC2 just doesn't compare with the original in terms of game play, game mechanics, meta and the psychological aspect of going 1v1 with somebody.  And a lot of the game mechanics stuff that SC/BW has was dumbed down in SC2.  Any n00b could play SC2.  SC/BW needs a decent degree of skill to play properly.  That's just imho.

^  I'm not sure if the patches are updated in the original version of SC/BW but I'm sure that there are no differences between the original and remastered except for the graphics.  And if ever the patches in the original are not up to date, there are only minor differences.  I don't even think they changed anything much like spell damage, attack damage and the like.  That's usually what the devs change to make the game more balanced.

As for installing the game in the original, always install the expansion aka Broodwar.  No one plays vanilla Starcraft since the expansion came out.  It's always with Broodwar on.  Do the same with remastered.

I surely think that I have downloaded the Broodwars Expansion and it is good for sure but yeah playing the game for almost a week now if I am not mistaken, I lost many Computer fights versus Terran, and actually, I am still training with the Zerg Colony and still Learning some things actually I think I got the portable installation of the game here are the Screen Shots of the Starcraft game that I have downloaded,



Actually, I am really challenged with this game, and more than what I know in Battle Realms this is unique and has a lot of different learning for sure because I thought just because I have played Battle Realms before I would eventually master this game but there was a very difficult factor that wasn't on the Battle Realms game

Does your copy include the cut scenes for the campaigns?  Play the campaigns!  Blizzard did a really good job with those cut scenes.

[owengtam09]

Does your copy include the cut scenes for the campaigns?  Play the campaigns!  Blizzard did a really good job with those cut scenes.

It surely has Cut Scenes so it is very OK Actually, the Campaigns are pretty much hard for me but I am slowly keeping up with it it was really hard to play for sure reading all unit skills is great and it is really complex because it is also hard to defend on air units for sure but even though I keep on losing the game I am still enjoying it, well then I like about the Unique units of the Zerg was the Queen it was really a superior in the Air and unique ability of infestation where the Queen injects parasites to organic enemies and take control of opponents Command Center that is why I really like this one,

For sure we still have 2 days to witness the Starcraft tournament the game between Soulkey against Mini for sure will definitely be one epic match and just like the other game I really want to see it, I am really curious about what they are doing in the beginning of the game, so for sure I really want to watch all of it with a good announcer,

[tokeweed]

^  You could use cheat codes for single player mode and the campaigns.    You'll just be playing it for the cut scenes anyway and to know the back story.  They're pretty good...  Learning to the strats and learning how to play well will only be acheived by playing lots of hours in multi player mode. 

But yeah..  And for the final match of ASL 16, it's a coin flip.  Mini is lined at 1.90 and Soulkey is at 1.80.  I lean mini but seeing how Soulkey played on through and got the win vs Rush from behind, dunno...  :/