Prosecution to use Caroline Ellison notes as evidence against SBF

[Z-tight]

Hudson Williams Joins Julia Garner and Anthony Boyle in The Altruists

Woah, i must say this is one i wasn't expecting, at least not now, i mean not a few years after sbf was sentenced to jail and he is still 'fighting' to earn himself a pardon, feels too soon in my opinion. However, i don't know how many people would anticipate this television series that would air on Netflix, surely not the creditors of ftx, lol.

I am not sure i'd watch this one, neither do i think it would be big, though i may be wrong.

[YOSHIE]

Fresh trouble looms for former FTX CEO Sam Bankman-Fried as prosecutors seek to use the personal notes of sister trading firm Alameda former CEO, Caroline Ellison as evidence against him..

In my observation, the prosecutor has had the sense to look for evidence about the former CEO of FTX, what laws and regulations he used.
For example, if the prosecutor uses family evidence such as trafficking as evidence, it clearly does not fall within the realm of law.
A person steals a horse and the prosecutor provides evidence of stealing a cow. Indeed, cows and horses have the same 4 legs, but their faces and body postures are different, horses have no horns and cows have horns.

The conclusion is that family evidence and FTX office transaction evidence are different, they are recorded evidence.

[zasad@]

I think this matter is already closed. The sentence won't be changed for the next five years.
The bigwigs are dividing up the FTX assets, and it's advantageous for them to have Sam Bankman-Fried in prison and keep his mouth shut during this time. And the courts in the USA are very long and the cases are very complicated.

[zasad@]

FTX co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried applies for Trump pardon
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/ftx-co-founder-sam-bankman-fried-applies-for-trump-pardon/ar-AA256tfW
"FTX co-founder Sam Bankman-Fried formally applied for a presidential pardon, more than two years after he was convicted over the multi-billion dollar collapse of his once-thriving cryptocurrency empire.

The 34-year-old submitted an application to the Justice Department’s Pardon Attorney Office, according to the office’s website, requesting a “pardon after completion of sentence.”

Bankman-Fried has been using social media and interviews with conservative news outlets to angle for executive relief from President Donald Trump, whose embrace of the clemency power during his second term has benefitted dozens of white-collar defendants. Trump told the New York Times in January that he had no plans to pardon Bankman-Fried.

[Z-tight]

The 34-year-old submitted an application to the Justice Department’s Pardon Attorney Office, according to the office’s website, requesting a “pardon after completion of sentence.”

That is interesting, sbf was sentenced to 25 years in prison, so Donald Trump would be long gone from the White House before the completion of his sentence. So i am curious, how does this work and how is he seeking a pardon from Trump 'after the completion of his sentence'.

However, it is so clear that sbf is very desperate to get a pardon from the president, even though Donald Trump has already said he has no plans of doing that. He was a big donor to the Democrats, so if a democrat is elected president in the next election, he could switch his allegiance back and seek for a pardon from whomever it is.

[2stout]

Once SBF names the right price, he'll be able to buy a pardon from the current president.  You gotta pay to play with this administration and the grift price has gotta be right.  Maybe he hid some crypto somewhere and will be able to up the offer.  If not, he'll be in the big house for a while.

[zasad@]

Once SBF names the right price, he'll be able to buy a pardon from the current president.  You gotta pay to play with this administration and the grift price has gotta be right.  Maybe he hid some crypto somewhere and will be able to up the offer.  If not, he'll be in the big house for a while.

I don't think Trump needs SBF money because the US president is already very wealthy. Trump needs the support of the community. While many famous people voted for Ross Ulbricht's release, I don't see the same happening with SBF.
SBF and its companies' assets are already divided, and no one wants SBF in freedom. Therefore, I don't see the president's interest in pardoning SBF yet.

[2stout]

Once SBF names the right price, he'll be able to buy a pardon from the current president.  You gotta pay to play with this administration and the grift price has gotta be right.  Maybe he hid some crypto somewhere and will be able to up the offer.  If not, he'll be in the big house for a while.

I don't think Trump needs SBF money because the US president is already very wealthy. Trump needs the support of the community. While many famous people voted for Ross Ulbricht's release, I don't see the same happening with SBF.
SBF and its companies' assets are already divided, and no one wants SBF in freedom. Therefore, I don't see the president's interest in pardoning SBF yet.

Of course he doesn't need SBF's or anyone else's money, but his greed hasn't stopped him from selling pardons.  Case and point- Juan Orlando Hernández.  What would have been his interest in pardoning that guy besides making money and election interference?

[zasad@]

Once SBF names the right price, he'll be able to buy a pardon from the current president.  You gotta pay to play with this administration and the grift price has gotta be right.  Maybe he hid some crypto somewhere and will be able to up the offer.  If not, he'll be in the big house for a while.

I don't think Trump needs SBF money because the US president is already very wealthy. Trump needs the support of the community. While many famous people voted for Ross Ulbricht's release, I don't see the same happening with SBF.
SBF and its companies' assets are already divided, and no one wants SBF in freedom. Therefore, I don't see the president's interest in pardoning SBF yet.

Of course he doesn't need SBF's or anyone else's money, but his greed hasn't stopped him from selling pardons.  Case and point- Juan Orlando Hernández.  What would have been his interest in pardoning that guy besides making money and election interference?

First, let's write that Juan Orlando Hernández is the former president of Honduras. I've already written that politics is the art of negotiation. I think the reason wasn't money, but rather certain political advantages and the support of other influential people. This is much more important than money.
If influential people confront Trump about the deal, perhaps he'll pardon SBF, since he won't be president for a third time.

[2stout]

Once SBF names the right price, he'll be able to buy a pardon from the current president.  You gotta pay to play with this administration and the grift price has gotta be right.  Maybe he hid some crypto somewhere and will be able to up the offer.  If not, he'll be in the big house for a while.

I don't think Trump needs SBF money because the US president is already very wealthy. Trump needs the support of the community. While many famous people voted for Ross Ulbricht's release, I don't see the same happening with SBF.
SBF and its companies' assets are already divided, and no one wants SBF in freedom. Therefore, I don't see the president's interest in pardoning SBF yet.

Of course he doesn't need SBF's or anyone else's money, but his greed hasn't stopped him from selling pardons.  Case and point- Juan Orlando Hernández.  What would have been his interest in pardoning that guy besides making money and election interference?

First, let's write that Juan Orlando Hernández is the former president of Honduras. I've already written that politics is the art of negotiation. I think the reason wasn't money, but rather certain political advantages and the support of other influential people. This is much more important than money.
If influential people confront Trump about the deal, perhaps he'll pardon SBF, since he won't be president for a third time.

I believe that folks would either know or look up who Juan Orlando Hernández and connect the dots.  IMHO, this is mainly about having the  Honduran government ending its dispute against Próspera, accomplished by installing the government you know would end the dispute via election interference.  A favor to Silicon Valley billionaires by the US president and of course Juan Orlando Hernández endorses the favored candidate as part of the pardon.  And of course this favor doesn't come for free as $$$ is also involved.

[zasad@]

Once SBF names the right price, he'll be able to buy a pardon from the current president.  You gotta pay to play with this administration and the grift price has gotta be right.  Maybe he hid some crypto somewhere and will be able to up the offer.  If not, he'll be in the big house for a while.

I don't think Trump needs SBF money because the US president is already very wealthy. Trump needs the support of the community. While many famous people voted for Ross Ulbricht's release, I don't see the same happening with SBF.
SBF and its companies' assets are already divided, and no one wants SBF in freedom. Therefore, I don't see the president's interest in pardoning SBF yet.

Of course he doesn't need SBF's or anyone else's money, but his greed hasn't stopped him from selling pardons.  Case and point- Juan Orlando Hernández.  What would have been his interest in pardoning that guy besides making money and election interference?

First, let's write that Juan Orlando Hernández is the former president of Honduras. I've already written that politics is the art of negotiation. I think the reason wasn't money, but rather certain political advantages and the support of other influential people. This is much more important than money.
If influential people confront Trump about the deal, perhaps he'll pardon SBF, since he won't be president for a third time.

I believe that folks would either know or look up who Juan Orlando Hernández and connect the dots.  IMHO, this is mainly about having the  Honduran government ending its dispute against Próspera, accomplished by installing the government you know would end the dispute via election interference.  A favor to Silicon Valley billionaires by the US president and of course Juan Orlando Hernández endorses the favored candidate as part of the pardon.  And of course this favor doesn't come for free as $$$ is also involved.

Trump is already a billionaire, do you really think it's all about money?
Such services are usually paid for by other services, and for the sake of money, Trump can destroy or raise world markets with his posts on social media.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-net-worth-2026-owns-110304126.html?
Forbes reported that Trump holds $1.1 billion in liabilities and $8.4 billion in assets, but only $1.1 billion in liquid assets. Stocks, bonds and crypto fluctuate with the market, so $6 or $7 billion today could be substantially less (or more) next week.

[2stout]

Once SBF names the right price, he'll be able to buy a pardon from the current president.  You gotta pay to play with this administration and the grift price has gotta be right.  Maybe he hid some crypto somewhere and will be able to up the offer.  If not, he'll be in the big house for a while.

I don't think Trump needs SBF money because the US president is already very wealthy. Trump needs the support of the community. While many famous people voted for Ross Ulbricht's release, I don't see the same happening with SBF.
SBF and its companies' assets are already divided, and no one wants SBF in freedom. Therefore, I don't see the president's interest in pardoning SBF yet.

Of course he doesn't need SBF's or anyone else's money, but his greed hasn't stopped him from selling pardons.  Case and point- Juan Orlando Hernández.  What would have been his interest in pardoning that guy besides making money and election interference?

First, let's write that Juan Orlando Hernández is the former president of Honduras. I've already written that politics is the art of negotiation. I think the reason wasn't money, but rather certain political advantages and the support of other influential people. This is much more important than money.
If influential people confront Trump about the deal, perhaps he'll pardon SBF, since he won't be president for a third time.

I believe that folks would either know or look up who Juan Orlando Hernández and connect the dots.  IMHO, this is mainly about having the  Honduran government ending its dispute against Próspera, accomplished by installing the government you know would end the dispute via election interference.  A favor to Silicon Valley billionaires by the US president and of course Juan Orlando Hernández endorses the favored candidate as part of the pardon.  And of course this favor doesn't come for free as $$$ is also involved.

Trump is already a billionaire, do you really think it's all about money?
Such services are usually paid for by other services, and for the sake of money, Trump can destroy or raise world markets with his posts on social media.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-net-worth-2026-owns-110304126.html?
Forbes reported that Trump holds $1.1 billion in liabilities and $8.4 billion in assets, but only $1.1 billion in liquid assets. Stocks, bonds and crypto fluctuate with the market, so $6 or $7 billion today could be substantially less (or more) next week.

To think money doesn't play a role would be extremely naive.  The president has enriched himself billions since being back in office so every little bit counts.  Also, if you re-read my previous post, I stated clearly what it's mainly about and it wasn't money.  Therefore, I don't understand the need of your question when it was already answered in the negative.

[zasad@]

Once SBF names the right price, he'll be able to buy a pardon from the current president.  You gotta pay to play with this administration and the grift price has gotta be right.  Maybe he hid some crypto somewhere and will be able to up the offer.  If not, he'll be in the big house for a while.

I don't think Trump needs SBF money because the US president is already very wealthy. Trump needs the support of the community. While many famous people voted for Ross Ulbricht's release, I don't see the same happening with SBF.
SBF and its companies' assets are already divided, and no one wants SBF in freedom. Therefore, I don't see the president's interest in pardoning SBF yet.

Of course he doesn't need SBF's or anyone else's money, but his greed hasn't stopped him from selling pardons.  Case and point- Juan Orlando Hernández.  What would have been his interest in pardoning that guy besides making money and election interference?

First, let's write that Juan Orlando Hernández is the former president of Honduras. I've already written that politics is the art of negotiation. I think the reason wasn't money, but rather certain political advantages and the support of other influential people. This is much more important than money.
If influential people confront Trump about the deal, perhaps he'll pardon SBF, since he won't be president for a third time.

I believe that folks would either know or look up who Juan Orlando Hernández and connect the dots.  IMHO, this is mainly about having the  Honduran government ending its dispute against Próspera, accomplished by installing the government you know would end the dispute via election interference.  A favor to Silicon Valley billionaires by the US president and of course Juan Orlando Hernández endorses the favored candidate as part of the pardon.  And of course this favor doesn't come for free as $$$ is also involved.

Trump is already a billionaire, do you really think it's all about money?
Such services are usually paid for by other services, and for the sake of money, Trump can destroy or raise world markets with his posts on social media.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-net-worth-2026-owns-110304126.html?
Forbes reported that Trump holds $1.1 billion in liabilities and $8.4 billion in assets, but only $1.1 billion in liquid assets. Stocks, bonds and crypto fluctuate with the market, so $6 or $7 billion today could be substantially less (or more) next week.

To think money doesn't play a role would be extremely naive.  The president has enriched himself billions since being back in office so every little bit counts.  Also, if you re-read my previous post, I stated clearly what it's mainly about and it wasn't money.  Therefore, I don't understand the need of your question when it was already answered in the negative.

We've exchanged opinions.
I believe that if there are certain opportunities and connections, the money will definitely come.
Let's not play Captain Obvious. If you claim that Trump is selling pardons, you must provide convincing evidence.
And if you don't provide it, then I'll stick to my opinion, and you to yours. I have no problem with that.

[2stout]

Once SBF names the right price, he'll be able to buy a pardon from the current president.  You gotta pay to play with this administration and the grift price has gotta be right.  Maybe he hid some crypto somewhere and will be able to up the offer.  If not, he'll be in the big house for a while.

I don't think Trump needs SBF money because the US president is already very wealthy. Trump needs the support of the community. While many famous people voted for Ross Ulbricht's release, I don't see the same happening with SBF.
SBF and its companies' assets are already divided, and no one wants SBF in freedom. Therefore, I don't see the president's interest in pardoning SBF yet.

Of course he doesn't need SBF's or anyone else's money, but his greed hasn't stopped him from selling pardons.  Case and point- Juan Orlando Hernández.  What would have been his interest in pardoning that guy besides making money and election interference?

First, let's write that Juan Orlando Hernández is the former president of Honduras. I've already written that politics is the art of negotiation. I think the reason wasn't money, but rather certain political advantages and the support of other influential people. This is much more important than money.
If influential people confront Trump about the deal, perhaps he'll pardon SBF, since he won't be president for a third time.

I believe that folks would either know or look up who Juan Orlando Hernández and connect the dots.  IMHO, this is mainly about having the  Honduran government ending its dispute against Próspera, accomplished by installing the government you know would end the dispute via election interference.  A favor to Silicon Valley billionaires by the US president and of course Juan Orlando Hernández endorses the favored candidate as part of the pardon.  And of course this favor doesn't come for free as $$$ is also involved.

Trump is already a billionaire, do you really think it's all about money?
Such services are usually paid for by other services, and for the sake of money, Trump can destroy or raise world markets with his posts on social media.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-net-worth-2026-owns-110304126.html?
Forbes reported that Trump holds $1.1 billion in liabilities and $8.4 billion in assets, but only $1.1 billion in liquid assets. Stocks, bonds and crypto fluctuate with the market, so $6 or $7 billion today could be substantially less (or more) next week.

To think money doesn't play a role would be extremely naive.  The president has enriched himself billions since being back in office so every little bit counts.  Also, if you re-read my previous post, I stated clearly what it's mainly about and it wasn't money.  Therefore, I don't understand the need of your question when it was already answered in the negative.

We've exchanged opinions.
I believe that if there are certain opportunities and connections, the money will definitely come.
Let's not play Captain Obvious. If you claim that Trump is selling pardons, you must provide convincing evidence.
And if you don't provide it, then I'll stick to my opinion, and you to yours. I have no problem with that.

Well captain, it's quite obvious that pay to play is going on.  I can provide you numerous examples, but will leave you with 1 so you can DYOR as it's really easy.  Let's take Trevor Milton as example.  Here's what he and his wife's $3.2 million in contributions to the president's 2024 campaign ($1.8 million a month before the election) and to folks in that orbit got him- 1)  In March 2025, he was given a full pardon and as a result 2) he was let off the hook for $661 million in restitution he owed to investors he defrauded.  3)  In September 2025, the SEC dropped civil enforcement cases against Milton, meaning no civil penalties or job restrictions.

[zasad@]

Once SBF names the right price, he'll be able to buy a pardon from the current president.  You gotta pay to play with this administration and the grift price has gotta be right.  Maybe he hid some crypto somewhere and will be able to up the offer.  If not, he'll be in the big house for a while.

I don't think Trump needs SBF money because the US president is already very wealthy. Trump needs the support of the community. While many famous people voted for Ross Ulbricht's release, I don't see the same happening with SBF.
SBF and its companies' assets are already divided, and no one wants SBF in freedom. Therefore, I don't see the president's interest in pardoning SBF yet.

Of course he doesn't need SBF's or anyone else's money, but his greed hasn't stopped him from selling pardons.  Case and point- Juan Orlando Hernández.  What would have been his interest in pardoning that guy besides making money and election interference?

First, let's write that Juan Orlando Hernández is the former president of Honduras. I've already written that politics is the art of negotiation. I think the reason wasn't money, but rather certain political advantages and the support of other influential people. This is much more important than money.
If influential people confront Trump about the deal, perhaps he'll pardon SBF, since he won't be president for a third time.

I believe that folks would either know or look up who Juan Orlando Hernández and connect the dots.  IMHO, this is mainly about having the  Honduran government ending its dispute against Próspera, accomplished by installing the government you know would end the dispute via election interference.  A favor to Silicon Valley billionaires by the US president and of course Juan Orlando Hernández endorses the favored candidate as part of the pardon.  And of course this favor doesn't come for free as $$$ is also involved.

Trump is already a billionaire, do you really think it's all about money?
Such services are usually paid for by other services, and for the sake of money, Trump can destroy or raise world markets with his posts on social media.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-net-worth-2026-owns-110304126.html?
Forbes reported that Trump holds $1.1 billion in liabilities and $8.4 billion in assets, but only $1.1 billion in liquid assets. Stocks, bonds and crypto fluctuate with the market, so $6 or $7 billion today could be substantially less (or more) next week.

To think money doesn't play a role would be extremely naive.  The president has enriched himself billions since being back in office so every little bit counts.  Also, if you re-read my previous post, I stated clearly what it's mainly about and it wasn't money.  Therefore, I don't understand the need of your question when it was already answered in the negative.

We've exchanged opinions.
I believe that if there are certain opportunities and connections, the money will definitely come.
Let's not play Captain Obvious. If you claim that Trump is selling pardons, you must provide convincing evidence.
And if you don't provide it, then I'll stick to my opinion, and you to yours. I have no problem with that.

Well captain, it's quite obvious that pay to play is going on.  I can provide you numerous examples, but will leave you with 1 so you can DYOR as it's really easy.  Let's take Trevor Milton as example.  Here's what he and his wife's $3.2 million in contributions to the president's 2024 campaign ($1.8 million a month before the election) and to folks in that orbit got him- 1)  In March 2025, he was given a full pardon and as a result 2) he was let off the hook for $661 million in restitution he owed to investors he defrauded.  3)  In September 2025, the SEC dropped civil enforcement cases against Milton, meaning no civil penalties or job restrictions.

I've looked into this case.
I agree that Trevor Milton donated several million dollars to Trump's campaign and received a pardon. But that doesn't prove Trump is selling pardons.
Have you read this information?
In his role as the 47th president of the United States (January 20, 2025 – present), Donald Trump granted executive clemency to more than 1,700 individuals as of June 11, 2026, all of whom were charged or convicted of federal criminal offenses

I didn't know this, but I found some very interesting information. This list also includes people who financed Biden's election campaign.
Overall, Biden granted 4,245 acts of clemency during his four-year tenure in the White House. That far exceeds the total of any other president since the beginning of the 20th century, including Franklin D. Roosevelt, who granted 3,796 such acts during his 12 years in office. It is also far ahead of the current total of President Donald Trump.

Barack Obama pardoned and commuted the sentences of a total of 1,927 people.
___
We just uncovered a shady business selling pardons

[safar1980]

Sam Bank­man-fried’s Prison Exper­i­ment
Under­stim­u­lated and as talk­at­ive as ever, the crypto fraud­ster insists that his time behind bars won’t change him.

Trump’s soft spot for felons has cre­ated a brazen new class of clem­ency lob­by­ists and gives Bank­man-fried hope for a par­don that would have been unthink­able under the admin­is­tra­tion that pro­sec­uted him. His par­ents have hired two GOP oper­at­ives to lobby the admin­is­tra­tion for his release, and on June 8, news broke that Bank­man-fried had offi­cially filed a bid for a pres­id­en­tial par­don. On Poly­mar­ket, his chances of receiv­ing one before 2027 doubled to about 14 per­cent.

[2stout]

Once SBF names the right price, he'll be able to buy a pardon from the current president.  You gotta pay to play with this administration and the grift price has gotta be right.  Maybe he hid some crypto somewhere and will be able to up the offer.  If not, he'll be in the big house for a while.

I don't think Trump needs SBF money because the US president is already very wealthy. Trump needs the support of the community. While many famous people voted for Ross Ulbricht's release, I don't see the same happening with SBF.
SBF and its companies' assets are already divided, and no one wants SBF in freedom. Therefore, I don't see the president's interest in pardoning SBF yet.

Of course he doesn't need SBF's or anyone else's money, but his greed hasn't stopped him from selling pardons.  Case and point- Juan Orlando Hernández.  What would have been his interest in pardoning that guy besides making money and election interference?

First, let's write that Juan Orlando Hernández is the former president of Honduras. I've already written that politics is the art of negotiation. I think the reason wasn't money, but rather certain political advantages and the support of other influential people. This is much more important than money.
If influential people confront Trump about the deal, perhaps he'll pardon SBF, since he won't be president for a third time.

I believe that folks would either know or look up who Juan Orlando Hernández and connect the dots.  IMHO, this is mainly about having the  Honduran government ending its dispute against Próspera, accomplished by installing the government you know would end the dispute via election interference.  A favor to Silicon Valley billionaires by the US president and of course Juan Orlando Hernández endorses the favored candidate as part of the pardon.  And of course this favor doesn't come for free as $$$ is also involved.

Trump is already a billionaire, do you really think it's all about money?
Such services are usually paid for by other services, and for the sake of money, Trump can destroy or raise world markets with his posts on social media.

https://www.yahoo.com/news/articles/trump-net-worth-2026-owns-110304126.html?
Forbes reported that Trump holds $1.1 billion in liabilities and $8.4 billion in assets, but only $1.1 billion in liquid assets. Stocks, bonds and crypto fluctuate with the market, so $6 or $7 billion today could be substantially less (or more) next week.

To think money doesn't play a role would be extremely naive.  The president has enriched himself billions since being back in office so every little bit counts.  Also, if you re-read my previous post, I stated clearly what it's mainly about and it wasn't money.  Therefore, I don't understand the need of your question when it was already answered in the negative.

We've exchanged opinions.
I believe that if there are certain opportunities and connections, the money will definitely come.
Let's not play Captain Obvious. If you claim that Trump is selling pardons, you must provide convincing evidence.
And if you don't provide it, then I'll stick to my opinion, and you to yours. I have no problem with that.

Well captain, it's quite obvious that pay to play is going on.  I can provide you numerous examples, but will leave you with 1 so you can DYOR as it's really easy.  Let's take Trevor Milton as example.  Here's what he and his wife's $3.2 million in contributions to the president's 2024 campaign ($1.8 million a month before the election) and to folks in that orbit got him- 1)  In March 2025, he was given a full pardon and as a result 2) he was let off the hook for $661 million in restitution he owed to investors he defrauded.  3)  In September 2025, the SEC dropped civil enforcement cases against Milton, meaning no civil penalties or job restrictions.

I've looked into this case.
I agree that Trevor Milton donated several million dollars to Trump's campaign and received a pardon. But that doesn't prove Trump is selling pardons.
Have you read this information?
In his role as the 47th president of the United States (January 20, 2025 – present), Donald Trump granted executive clemency to more than 1,700 individuals as of June 11, 2026, all of whom were charged or convicted of federal criminal offenses

I didn't know this, but I found some very interesting information. This list also includes people who financed Biden's election campaign.
Overall, Biden granted 4,245 acts of clemency during his four-year tenure in the White House. That far exceeds the total of any other president since the beginning of the 20th century, including Franklin D. Roosevelt, who granted 3,796 such acts during his 12 years in office. It is also far ahead of the current total of President Donald Trump.

Barack Obama pardoned and commuted the sentences of a total of 1,927 people.
___
We just uncovered a shady business selling pardons

The thing is that pardons and clemency are not one in the same and conflating the 2 is an error.  A pardon is a type of clemency and the most desirable type as it can let you off the hook for restitution and fully restore ones rights.  Commutations of a prison sentence is another type of clemency, which is the most common type of clmency and typically doesn't absolve one of restitution or fully restores ones rights.  So using your source (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/07/biden-granted-more-acts-of-clemency-than-any-prior-president/), Biden only granted 80 pardons during his time in office and in a year, trump has granted over 1600 pardons in a little over a year so far in office (https://www.cato.org/blog/embarrassment-riches; ).  Also, trump removed the requirement that they pay restitution and fines, costing their victims an at least estimated $1.3 billion (https://www.cato.org/blog/embarrassment-riches).

 

[zasad@]

The thing is that pardons and clemency are not one in the same and conflating the 2 is an error.  A pardon is a type of clemency and the most desirable type as it can let you off the hook for restitution and fully restore ones rights.  Commutations of a prison sentence is another type of clemency, which is the most common type of clmency and typically doesn't absolve one of restitution or fully restores ones rights.  So using your source (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/07/biden-granted-more-acts-of-clemency-than-any-prior-president/), Biden only granted 80 pardons during his time in office and in a year, trump has granted over 1600 pardons in a little over a year so far in office (https://www.cato.org/blog/embarrassment-riches; ).  Also, trump removed the requirement that they pay restitution and fines, costing their victims an at least estimated $1.3 billion (https://www.cato.org/blog/embarrassment-riches).

This doesn't prove Trump is selling pardons. One view is that the case against Trevor Milton is politically motivated, and Trump intervened.
Trevor Milton is in a very difficult situation; Trump has only waived criminal and state fines, not private corporate debts. Only one particular and controversial case was cited, on the basis of which it is impossible to draw final conclusions.

[2stout]

The thing is that pardons and clemency are not one in the same and conflating the 2 is an error.  A pardon is a type of clemency and the most desirable type as it can let you off the hook for restitution and fully restore ones rights.  Commutations of a prison sentence is another type of clemency, which is the most common type of clmency and typically doesn't absolve one of restitution or fully restores ones rights.  So using your source (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/07/biden-granted-more-acts-of-clemency-than-any-prior-president/), Biden only granted 80 pardons during his time in office and in a year, trump has granted over 1600 pardons in a little over a year so far in office (https://www.cato.org/blog/embarrassment-riches; ).  Also, trump removed the requirement that they pay restitution and fines, costing their victims an at least estimated $1.3 billion (https://www.cato.org/blog/embarrassment-riches).

This doesn't prove Trump is selling pardons. One view is that the case against Trevor Milton is politically motivated, and Trump intervened.
Trevor Milton is in a very difficult situation; Trump has only waived criminal and state fines, not private corporate debts. Only one particular and controversial case was cited, on the basis of which it is impossible to draw final conclusions.

Where there is smoke, there is fire.  And, the view that the case against Trevor Milton is politically motivated is patently false as he is a proven fraud.  Yeah, but $661 million was wiped away while he still owes nearly $100 million.  So he went from owing around $761 million to only $100 million.  The corporate debt is only 13.14% of the total.  I only cited 1 of many cases and will leave it to you to do some easy research as today's lesson is over.

[zasad@]

The thing is that pardons and clemency are not one in the same and conflating the 2 is an error.  A pardon is a type of clemency and the most desirable type as it can let you off the hook for restitution and fully restore ones rights.  Commutations of a prison sentence is another type of clemency, which is the most common type of clmency and typically doesn't absolve one of restitution or fully restores ones rights.  So using your source (https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2025/02/07/biden-granted-more-acts-of-clemency-than-any-prior-president/), Biden only granted 80 pardons during his time in office and in a year, trump has granted over 1600 pardons in a little over a year so far in office (https://www.cato.org/blog/embarrassment-riches; ).  Also, trump removed the requirement that they pay restitution and fines, costing their victims an at least estimated $1.3 billion (https://www.cato.org/blog/embarrassment-riches).

This doesn't prove Trump is selling pardons. One view is that the case against Trevor Milton is politically motivated, and Trump intervened.
Trevor Milton is in a very difficult situation; Trump has only waived criminal and state fines, not private corporate debts. Only one particular and controversial case was cited, on the basis of which it is impossible to draw final conclusions.

Where there is smoke, there is fire.  And, the view that the case against Trevor Milton is politically motivated is patently false as he is a proven fraud.  Yeah, but $661 million was wiped away while he still owes nearly $100 million.  So he went from owing around $761 million to only $100 million.  The corporate debt is only 13.14% of the total.  I only cited 1 of many cases and will leave it to you to do some easy research as today's lesson is over.

If you've decided to become a teacher, you're doing a very poor job. You've cited only one case and are drawing conclusions based on that that Trump is selling pardons.
If you're accusing someone, you should provide sufficient evidence and independently study other cases.