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August 19, 2023, 05:09:34 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
I think risk management could be a problem. I have seen traders who actually experience the very same thing but however their risk and rewards are managed so beautifully that it would take 3 losing trades to actually equate the loss made by one winning trade. So over-all it's a net profitable scenario for them. So my first suggestion would obviously be to actually start improving risk reward ratio.
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August 19, 2023, 07:22:39 PM
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I will tell you that this is a normal phenomenon and everyone goes through it. In my opinion it is very good that you are looking for a solution to the issue and turned to other people for advice.
Of course, you need to analyze losing trades and understand what you are doing wrong, but unfortunately, even such an in-depth analysis does not guarantee that if you eliminate errors, you will not suffer losses. Trading is a high-risk activity and even with a lot of experience and knowledge, you can fail
In any case, I wish you to be healthy and happy!
A knowledgeable and experienced trader will not lose every single trade, I know that losses are inevitable and even the most expert traders will experience losses, but winning 10 trades and then losing 1 does not mean that you are failing but it is a part of the journey. There can never be complete perfection in anything that you do in your life but if you are doing it well for the most part, it means you are doing pretty well and that is also the case with trading.

So when someone is losing a few trades but making good profit with other trades, they are basically not failing but they should always evaluate their failed trades and learn from their mistakes so that they don't repeat them and have a higher success rate for their future trades and keep learning and growing.

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August 19, 2023, 09:48:56 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.
Because not all predictions and market analysis will always be in accordance with actual real conditions 100%. There will definitely be a miss at a certain moment. And even though for example someone has implemented hedging or whatever the plan B is, sometimes it doesn't go well. And actually, loss in trading, especially for day traders, is a common thing to experience. However, they can cover these losses from profits in other trading positions. Usually a trader does not only do 1 position in one day, so he can anticipate all risks of loss. As long as the amount of profit you get is always higher than the loss every day, then this is still profitable.

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August 20, 2023, 08:50:18 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.
Because not all predictions and market analysis will always be in accordance with actual real conditions 100%. There will definitely be a miss at a certain moment. And even though for example someone has implemented hedging or whatever the plan B is, sometimes it doesn't go well. And actually, loss in trading, especially for day traders, is a common thing to experience. However, they can cover these losses from profits in other trading positions. Usually a trader does not only do 1 position in one day, so he can anticipate all risks of loss. As long as the amount of profit you get is always higher than the loss every day, then this is still profitable.
a trader must have experienced an unfortunate incident where the analysis was repeatedly wrong, but they can control their emotions, so they are not greedy and prefer to calm down and look for the next opportunity, many of them say that opportunities will come again and again, so there is no need worry about missing the moment, because we think that trading is not just for one time, but for the next, so we must be able to serve the will of the market

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August 20, 2023, 08:52:38 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.
Because not all predictions and market analysis will always be in accordance with actual real conditions 100%. There will definitely be a miss at a certain moment. And even though for example someone has implemented hedging or whatever the plan B is, sometimes it doesn't go well. And actually, loss in trading, especially for day traders, is a common thing to experience. However, they can cover these losses from profits in other trading positions. Usually a trader does not only do 1 position in one day, so he can anticipate all risks of loss. As long as the amount of profit you get is always higher than the loss every day, then this is still profitable.
a trader must have experienced an unfortunate incident where the analysis was repeatedly wrong, but they can control their emotions, so they are not greedy and prefer to calm down and look for the next opportunity, many of them say that opportunities will come again and again, so there is no need worry about missing the moment, because we think that trading is not just for one time, but for the next, so we must be able to serve the will of the market

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August 20, 2023, 10:42:57 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
What profit and what losses does a trader get from his trades? With losses, do you completely lose the position, or do you use a strategy that allows you to lose only a small part of the position? Each strategy is individual, and if we do not know your trading strategy, then how to analyze it and give advice will not work, it will be wrong.

Do you use a stop loss, perhaps this will help you avoid big losses, in which case the losses will be much lower compared to the profit made?
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August 20, 2023, 11:38:58 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.
Because not all predictions and market analysis will always be in accordance with actual real conditions 100%. There will definitely be a miss at a certain moment. And even though for example someone has implemented hedging or whatever the plan B is, sometimes it doesn't go well. And actually, loss in trading, especially for day traders, is a common thing to experience. However, they can cover these losses from profits in other trading positions. Usually a trader does not only do 1 position in one day, so he can anticipate all risks of loss. As long as the amount of profit you get is always higher than the loss every day, then this is still profitable.
Becoming successful in trading is really a big challenge which is why most traders don't get there but rather fail. Many traders think too easy to make a profit from here, in fact, some did shortcuts because they'll think that would be enough.  We can't just rely on predictions, there is something we need to enhance our level of market understanding and place our trade. This is why TA is very important and is a key role in our success, those who are good at TA will have a bigger chance to earn compared to those who have not.

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August 20, 2023, 12:51:15 PM
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Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.

It's hard to give a so general answers, but when your positions are jumping from a profit to a loss in a one or two days then it seems that there is a lot of volatility in the market. The question here is if the price jumps occur over night or during the trading day. Because when price fluctuations happen overnight then there could some new news coming out where the trader doesn't react in time. One solution for the issue could be to close down your positions at the end of the day. So, when you are making a profit in your trade how about to close it down for the night and not leave it open for another day? In case this is a general occurrence in most of your trades then it would be good to look deeper and try to understand what went wrong. Entering in a trade right before there is a big price drop might be an issue with your research and you trade too early. It might be better to overserve the market for a few days and wait for the coin to drop in value before you start buying it.
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August 20, 2023, 12:51:25 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
I'm sure almost all of us have experienced this and it all comes back to each of us in handling it. I think it's a personal problem or an influence on psychology, it has nothing to do with the technique used, sometimes even in my opinion, if we experience something bad that happens continuously, then stopping for a moment and calming down is something worth trying.
I often do that to control emotions in trading which are difficult to control, especially if we are getting greedy.
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August 20, 2023, 06:09:19 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
I'm sure almost all of us have experienced this and it all comes back to each of us in handling it. I think it's a personal problem or an influence on psychology, it has nothing to do with the technique used, sometimes even in my opinion, if we experience something bad that happens continuously, then stopping for a moment and calming down is something worth trying.
I often do that to control emotions in trading which are difficult to control, especially if we are getting greedy.

Even professional traders are experiencing this. I'm sure that it's the usual thing that happens but we have to deal with it but if we have noticed that the same thing has been always happening, we better check our mistakes and learn from it. There might be one thing that we're doing and we need to figure out about that so the same mistake will never happen.
It's just that in trading, there are only two results so we might think of things as happening repeatedly but we always have to learn from the results. It might be the reason enough for us to look for more effective strategies that we could apply.
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August 20, 2023, 07:59:55 PM
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Cryptocurrency trading is not easily how to manage with profitable every time, unpredictable with some coins when trading and can't stopping how an expert or more experienced some trader they will face with loss. There are not guarantee with today earn much profit but tomorrow keep in the profitable position, many trader loss out their predicting when whales coming and their coins investing price drop drastically and waiting or cut loss are their choose.

But having experienced with trading make us easily how to manage well with loss position, use stop loss in trading is one necessary need ow to manage less of loss and get chance for getting profit on another time for trading. Don't make the same mistake in cryptocurrency trading if won't get loss again.

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August 20, 2023, 09:31:19 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
Trading does not guarantee that you will have a series of winnings in all your trades. That’s impossible to happen, especially that the market is never fixed and stable and anytime sudden factors factors appear in the market that put it into its bad shape. However, my only advice is to look into your trading habits. If there is repetition of results, perhaps your trading habits has affected it. Change your trading routine if ever that’s the case. Trade when the market is good and take a break when it’s not. If you are not seeing possible profits, then just focus on long term hodling.

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August 20, 2023, 09:50:33 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.
There may be several reasons:
- A market that suddenly and drastically changes direction while the traders haven't had time to anticipate it.
- Inappropriate time to exit.
 - Wrong speculation
 - Conditions are not as ideal as usual. Because after all someone may not always be in good and ideal condition 100% of the time. Surely there will be conditions that are not ideal at any time that make you less focused, not there at the right time, or other distractions. So this can be a trigger for loss.

but what is certain is that usually they will cover the loss with another position and immediately get higher profits.

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August 21, 2023, 03:26:24 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
Trading does not guarantee that you will have a series of winnings in all your trades. That’s impossible to happen, especially that the market is never fixed and stable and anytime sudden factors factors appear in the market that put it into its bad shape. However, my only advice is to look into your trading habits. If there is repetition of results, perhaps your trading habits has affected it. Change your trading routine if ever that’s the case. Trade when the market is good and take a break when it’s not. If you are not seeing possible profits, then just focus on long term hodling.
understanding when to trade is not easy, sometimes we seem to have the urge to make transactions, which we actually know is not the time to enter the market. such feelings are common in unstable psychological times. However, with experience and more flying hours, things like this will eventually be controlled naturally. we know that not every transaction will end in a profit forever, therefore we must be able to anticipate if our analysis is wrong, because that is the most important thing in responding to the market

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August 21, 2023, 03:33:07 AM
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Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.

There's a very slim chance of this story been true because it sounds impossible as trading can't be in a pattern of winning today and losing the next day unless the trader is doing it on purpose that he make efforts on the the first day but place an unwinnable trade the next day but since no trader will intentionally lose his trade then this story isn't true. Beside to solve this problem, why don't the trade just skip trading the next day and trade the next.

Since he's losing in an interval of one day, so the trader should skips the very next day to see if he'll win when he trade again. If you're losing in trading, the best advice is to quit and try others means of making money from the crypto market instead of doing what isn't working.

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August 21, 2023, 03:59:41 AM
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Gaining trading experience of profit and loss is natural. We can not always profit every time we trade. There will be times for us to lose. But if he makes a profit today and then loses the next day, it may be because he has to study more trading analysis to minimize his losses.

I still have that experience and it keeps me trying to learn what went wrong with my trades. But besides the trading analysis factor, we also need to know that the market has changed a lot now, which can make us analyze it wrong. We often encounter market conditions that look up but after a few hours later, the price has decreased several times.

It cannot be stopped or resolved but we can only reduce the losses by continuing to analyze. And if you are hesitant to enter the market, you better wait a while to see how it develops. Don't force yourself to enter the market just because a green candle is seen in the market because it might be a trap.

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August 22, 2023, 04:30:50 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
This is what trading is all about and you shouldn't expect to make profit all the time because you are trading with a volatile assets that the price goes up and cones down. Trade with a long term strategy and not a short term one. I believe that the more you trade,the more experience that you are having. I will suggest that you should know how to control the risk management so that you will not be making losses. Also look for another trading strategy that will help you not run at loss like you said. Some traders find it difficult to make profits and you are still lucky that you are making profit today and losses tomorrow. Professional traders always loss too but the difference with them is that they learn from their mistake and can control the risk management.

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August 22, 2023, 06:57:40 AM
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Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.

There's a very slim chance of this story been true because it sounds impossible as trading can't be in a pattern of winning today and losing the next day unless the trader is doing it on purpose that he make efforts on the the first day but place an unwinnable trade the next day but since no trader will intentionally lose his trade then this story isn't true. Beside to solve this problem, why don't the trade just skip trading the next day and trade the next.

Since he's losing in an interval of one day, so the trader should skips the very next day to see if he'll win when he trade again. If you're losing in trading, the best advice is to quit and try others means of making money from the crypto market instead of doing what isn't working.
sometimes the strategy system is also not in line with the existing market, and I think that is a normal thing, we can only do our best, and then God's hand will work, we just have to wait for the results whether it reaches the target or hits a stop loss. if you continue to experience losses, I think it will be a bad day, and instead of changing the strategy system, maybe examining the advantages and disadvantages of our strategy system would be better

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August 22, 2023, 07:23:53 AM
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sometimes the strategy system is also not in line with the existing market, and I think that is a normal thing, we can only do our best, and then God's hand will work, we just have to wait for the results whether it reaches the target or hits a stop loss. if you continue to experience losses, I think it will be a bad day, and instead of changing the strategy system, maybe examining the advantages and disadvantages of our strategy system would be better
therefore trading really needs good emotional control so you don't get caught up in revenge when you get continuous losses.
somehow it happened to traders. what I experienced were some profits in trading, but then losses that forced me to stop first.
when I return to trading, there will be some profits, but after that, there will also be losses.
we must realize that in trading we can also profit and loss. we can't really be consistent even if we use the best strategy we are good at.



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August 22, 2023, 07:52:59 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.
Let's first acknowledge that trading is not easy especially if you don't have a solid strategy to give yourself a winning chance,  otherwise it will be gambling...other reasons I can think of ...

  • Overtrading can lead to this kind of pattern
  • Revenge trading after a loss
  • No proper risk to reward
  • use of a tight stop can increase your loses as price has no room to play around

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Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
Such experiences are very normal, unless losses are more than change of strategy is the remedy!

Secondly, trading is a psychological game which is why one needs to try to trade in a mechanical way to put emotions out of the equation.

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