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August 22, 2023, 08:45:37 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.
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Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
His/her decisions.

I'm not expert in trading, but I tried trading already, and I believe that the reason why I lost most of the time with my trades is my trading decisions which often leads me to losses. A win trade means you had a good decision, and vice versa. How can it be solved or stopped? I don't think there's any way to stop it aside from learning from your past experiences. Experiencing it first-hand would be better because you can adjust, and make better decisions in the future. If you experience winning, you might stick to that strategy, and if you lose, you will make some adjustments, and better decisions.

Overall, it's psychological like you said. The problem is yourself, and the only solution for that is to fix yourself as well.

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August 22, 2023, 10:40:21 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.
There's no cause with that, it's a normal occurrence in trading.

Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.
It's because there's no other method or process with trading, we've got to do the same thing again and again. That's a cycle so, the results are also lying between the two.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
We all do experience that and there's no way to solve or stop it because those are the typical results we're getting when we trade unless you stop or you want to loss all of it.

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August 22, 2023, 11:07:51 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
Well, it really happens to all traders including profitable traders. The main reason why we experience loses in trading is because there are no strategies that has 100% win rate. We have to accept that sometimes we experience lose streak in our trading journey. We can't really control the market and can't predict the swing point. There's nothing wrong if you follow your trading plan but still encounter losses because it's normal. We just have to master in trading is how we can survive our funds in the long run, and this is the risk management. If you're emotional in trading you really have to take a break because you can just make bad decisions.

You're right. The whole point is that if there was a 100% strategy for making money in trading, then no one would lose money, but this is not possible. Where someone has earned, in another place someone has lost, and this is normal, this is how it works. There is nothing terrible when a trader loses money, it cannot be avoided, only those who do not trade do not lose.
What we do with our failures is another matter, whether we learn from them or not. It’s not scary to fail, but it’s bad to make the same mistakes over and over again.
After a person suffers losses, he should take a break so that the losses do not increase even more, I also agree with you on this.

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August 22, 2023, 12:38:24 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.

I think with the look of things he or she is overwhelmed with emotions that he makes profit that day and the next day he or she believes it will be the same this this things usually happens when you have too much confidence in a trade, its high time he or she accepts the fact trade can go anywhere at anytime its doesn't go in a straight line as we all know.

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August 22, 2023, 01:26:27 PM
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...Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month...

This is similar to a casino, when the probability of winning is 50/50, and in your case, the trader correctly guesses the direction of the market with the same probability. This type of trading is more like the trading of a beginner who does not use trading strategies in his trading.

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August 22, 2023, 02:29:58 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
LOL, Op this is a situation many newbies or inexperienced traders face in their journey into trading, If you have been experiencing this, just know that practically you are doing a wrong thing which needs to be identified and worked on, so you can become a better trader.
Below could be a factor that contributes to this.

Over trading: reduce the amount of time you spend trading or sometimes, when you have won a trade, take a rest the following day to come back to the market with a clear and fresh memory.

 In addition to this, if you lose a trade, try to re-evaluate and identify why you lost that trade, hence repeating the same mistake would end you up losing again.
Just note that anytime you hit a loss it your fault and should serves as a lesson to you, that is how to grow into becoming a profitable trader.






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August 22, 2023, 03:32:39 PM
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...Over trading: reduce the amount of time you spend trading or sometimes, when you have won a trade, take a rest the following day to come back to the market with a clear and fresh memory.

This advice will be the most useful, since in this case the trader will be able to skip his unprofitable deal and in the end he will have only profitable ones. The main thing is that he does not mix up, otherwise otherwise he will only have unprofitable transactions.

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...Over trading: reduce the amount of time you spend trading or sometimes, when you have won a trade, take a rest the following day to come back to the market with a clear and fresh memory.

This advice will be the most useful, since in this case the trader will be able to skip his unprofitable deal and in the end he will have only profitable ones. The main thing is that he does not mix up, otherwise otherwise he will only have unprofitable transactions.
I just stumbled upon another thread regarding day trading and about the persistence of doing recently even by having a steady profit. Turns out that could also be my problem since I was like desperate to earn so much and having the result of it. This ain't the hype that you would see unlike when you win in virtual trading and nah, I am not into those.

Thing is we all wanted profit in the end and this would come along with greediness as well.
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August 22, 2023, 04:56:50 PM
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Traders who are experienced have enough knowledge of both profit and loss to react. But traders who are not well experienced and don't know much about the market often face such losses and can sometimes make profits. People who are in such a position mostly sell their coins when the market is volatile due to which they face losses. Be patient when the market starts to move and hold them in order to sell when the market rebounds and profits are made. But wise and experienced traders will never make such mistakes, they will always be patient and never panic but will work with patience and faith. Especially when the bear market starts wise people don't panic but they hold the coins till the bull market comes. So if you start business in such condition then you must do long term so that you can make good profit. But if you trade short-term, you must make a lot of losses when the market is down, so you plan for the long-term.

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...Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month...

This is similar to a casino, when the probability of winning is 50/50, and in your case, the trader correctly guesses the direction of the market with the same probability. This type of trading is more like the trading of a beginner who does not use trading strategies in his trading.

This is like just guessing what the move of the market is, like flipping a coin to see if you buy or sell. You may win in a lucky way, but for sure it is not stable because you will lose in the long run, and what's worse, you don't know why, unlike in a casino where you know why you lose because it is always the house that wins. Strategy is really the key to winning a trade, and if you aren't winning, then there is probably something wrong with your strategy, which you need to backtest and revise.
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August 22, 2023, 06:09:23 PM
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If a person is experiencing one day win and another day loss then I think trading is not beneficial for him because the loss and profit become balance and a person remains at that stage.

In my opinion an experienced trader do not face such situation because he knows how to manage the circumstances that are against his hopes and he learned all the things before taking step into trading so if a person is facing such situations then main thing is that he does not understand the market completely so he should stop trading here.

Trading is for getting success and work to handle every situations so if one is not able to maximize his profit then pausing trading for some durations and learn again will be suited good.









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August 22, 2023, 06:24:01 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.

I think with the look of things he or she is overwhelmed with emotions that he makes profit that day and the next day he or she believes it will be the same this this things usually happens when you have too much confidence in a trade, its high time he or she accepts the fact trade can go anywhere at anytime its doesn't go in a straight line as we all know.
Very similar to gambling.

Let's put it this way, logically, when we trade then we could potentially win and lose. And it's like some sort of belief that when you trade more, you're likely to lose.

And the same goes with gambling, in the end, if you're a day trader OP. When you are in profit, don't lose it and just take it so that you'll see why these situations are fairly normal.

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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.

I think with the look of things he or she is overwhelmed with emotions that he makes profit that day and the next day he or she believes it will be the same this this things usually happens when you have too much confidence in a trade, its high time he or she accepts the fact trade can go anywhere at anytime its doesn't go in a straight line as we all know.
Very similar to gambling.

Let's put it this way, logically, when we trade then we could potentially win and lose. And it's like some sort of belief that when you trade more, you're likely to lose.

And the same goes with gambling, in the end, if you're a day trader OP. When you are in profit, don't lose it and just take it so that you'll see why these situations are fairly normal.
Similar situations on gambling but different in long term involvement on which we know that gambling cant really be that totally be compared to trading since its a different thing. Although in speaking about risks then it is really there and its up to someone whether they would really be accepting it and would really be considering on continuing specially on trading which its true that if you do see that you are really that making profits in the end of the day then it is really just that right that you shouldnt really be that stopping but rather continuing since this is an indicative sign that you are really that progressing in terms of
your trading. Problem? There's no problem as long you are really that sticking with your risks management because if you wont really be that mindful about this then you would really be ending up on
messing up your initial plans that you had made out earlier and possible goals that you had already insighted.

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...In my opinion an experienced trader do not face such situation because he knows how to manage the circumstances that are against his hopes and he learned all the things before taking step into trading so if a person is facing such situations then main thing is that he does not understand the market completely so he should stop trading here...

Obviously OP is not an experienced trader, so the fact that he does not lose his money is already positive. After all, we all know that the main thing is not to lose your money, and profit will come to us together with knowledge and experience. Now he needs to carefully analyze his trading to understand the reason for his unsuccessful trades.

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August 22, 2023, 09:55:23 PM
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It is not a psychological issue but lack of understanding. Normally in trading one must win and loss. But for those who are expert of trading is hardly to loss everything because they understand the movement of the market and they know when to place market and when to stop the market but for those who have not mastered the movement of the market, in most time want to make big profit and they are cut to loss everything  because they don't know when the market will go down and up. So they are liable to loss. And this as happened to me. So now I am very much be careful with trading.
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August 22, 2023, 09:59:25 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
Probably it’s his trading habits that made his trades end up with some profits and losses the following day. While it is known that trading is a combination of some profits and inevitable losses, but if the scenario keeps repeating itself, well then that certain trader should learn to evaluate his trading strategies, if they are still working or not. That way, he will start assessing what strategies to use continuously, and what strategies that need to revise or just develop new trading strategies.

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August 22, 2023, 11:13:52 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he
In trading it's not necessarily mean that you will getting or making profits always, but the objectives of traders is that they will be making profits and whosoever that trade want to make profit..in the aspect of losing in a trade, I will like you to understand what can be major reasons that might contribute for losing in trading whereas you do make profit in trading is lack of concentration, when you lacks concentration in trading, its very obvious that you will lose in trading, you most advocate time to study the movement of candle sticks of chart before investing and when you have not make such sacrifice or pay much attention in such I believe that you will definitely lose in trading

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August 22, 2023, 11:47:12 PM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.

 Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
Actually this is indeed related to our own psychology in trading activities. Well I've experienced it too. Or you could say I often experience it. Based on what I experience about this, when I get 2 or 3 profits in a trade, usually our psychology will start to get disturbed by the appearance of greed which starts to push us to be more involved in trading and hope to get the 4th profit on the same day. Even though mentally we are tired. But our greedy emotions push ourselves too hard to keep us trading even with psychological conditions that are actually starting to be ineffective to continue trading.

So the problem is we have to be able to restrain ourselves. And we should only enter into trades when we are truly psychologically prepared. should not be too excited but also should not be too lazy in making analysis and trading. Everything must be done quietly.

But honestly I don't understand with those who can trade every day. Because I can't trade every day. Because it was too tiring psychologically for me. I think day traders have a tough mentality.

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August 23, 2023, 06:24:55 AM
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What do we think could be the cause for a trader that has been experiencing a win and lose repetitive occurrences in his trades.
Knowledge and experience make traders understand how to take profit positions and because of that traders will look calm even though they have suffered many losses while trading.

Like he places a trade today he makes profit and the next day when he places another trade he would lose it, whereas the next day he then makes another profit and lose it the next. And this happen been repeating for more than a month.
That's how difficult it is to go through trading because anyone will experience a loss at a certain moment and it has become normal for this to happen in trading and vice versa regarding profits. Patience, controlling emotions and being calm are efforts that will lead someone to achieve an experience in trading.

Has anyone had such experience? If yes! Then how was or could it be solved or stopped?
The situation is getting psychological.
Change the first strategy if in the second step we experience losses and so on try to look at strategic positions to take profit positions, then pay attention to stop-loss limits that must be avoided. Technical matters may need to be studied because we will not be able to read market movements if neither knowledge nor experience. Don't be greedy and don't be in a hurry when you want to cut loss or stop loss, do it with care and consideration.

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August 23, 2023, 09:15:52 AM
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sometimes the strategy system is also not in line with the existing market, and I think that is a normal thing, we can only do our best, and then God's hand will work, we just have to wait for the results whether it reaches the target or hits a stop loss. if you continue to experience losses, I think it will be a bad day, and instead of changing the strategy system, maybe examining the advantages and disadvantages of our strategy system would be better

You shouldn't wait on God to do his miracle when you're a professional trader, you have to make sure you do everything right as religion or faith has nothing to do with trading. If you're doing what you said then you have to be a gambler because it's only an individual that's hoping on his day been lucky  that'll open a trade and pray to God to help him come out profitable. As a profession trader you should be able see how your trade will go if all your condition are meant.

If you're using a strategy that isn't in line with the current market condition then you have to change that strategy and use another one. We have many strategy that can give you profit, you have to look for which one will work well for you and stick to using it until you perfect it.

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