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September 18, 2023, 07:49:48 AM
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This is a very normal condition and we all feel the same thing when we feel tired but want to entertain ourselves by gambling but the results are bad when our focus is too bad when we feel our body is tired so our mind cant think of a strategy to win the bet and things are worse When someone starts to get tired of forcing themselves to gamble, they will only be provoked by emotions and spend all their existing funds on gambling.
In contrast to a healthy state of mind and not feeling tired, it is more comfortable and we can think of any strategy that can give us a greater chance of winning if we are lucky and other positive things, when our minds are cool, we can always control our emotions so as not to continue betting.

The ultimate aim of the creation of the gambling was to entertain the gamblers and to earn some small money for it.Because the gambling site owner spending some money to build the site and spending huge money for the marketing.The gambler may win the big money,if they had enough luck.The win or loss based on the good time of the gamblers,the healthy mind will enable you to make the quick decision in the gambling.The important factor in the gambling was taking the quick decision on the betting.The strategy will play the next role in the winning of the betting at the time of playing gambling.

It's business and for sure the design is to earn. Yup, sometimes the gambler may win some but that's not always going to happen
casino may allow you to win, but the time will come that it will be sucked away again from you.

You need to pay for your entertainment, but you need to balance. You should always be in control
and not let your emotions to dominate you, as most of the time when you are losing you wanted
to keep playing for more, adding more money and regret after you got emptied.
Gambling is just for fun and you should really be thinking that the money that you are allocating on simply playing it is already gone so that you wont really be finding yourself that impulsive when it comes to your gambling session because the most common behavior we do have is on the time that we are winning then we cant really be able to completely stop and call it a day on which you would really be pushing your luck even more and having that kind of mindset that you should continue to play for you might be able to get more but the sad fact that those winnings would really be just simply be taking back into the casino which we know that
luck isnt always on our side most of the time.

This is why it would really be wise that when you are winning then you should stop and call it a day and when you are losing then better stop also and dont chase those losses on which it would really be that making
yourself to avoid more devastation situation because this is where most gamblers do really fall on where they do become addicted and become impulsive and this is something
that we must avoid on tending to engage or doing gambling thing.
I've always thought the phrase "gambling just for fun" strange. When we drop chips on the table, we're not throwing them away. Win or lose, we're emotionally invested in every wager. Gambling's excitement, sparkling lights, and winners' excited yells are humorous in a bizarre manner

I disagree that you can always "think the money's gone" and not care about results. Anyone witnessed a hot streak? Intoxicating. That streak blinds us, makes us eager for more, and drives us to "win it all." Conversely, those who're losing hope that the next roll or spin will change their luck. I seen and lived it

Not everything's black and white. Sometimes it's not enough to leave while you're up or down. Understanding the emotional toll and being wise about it. Gambling is funny, but the consequences? Not always funny


When people say "The money is gone" can never truly be digested in my opinion. As most people who post in these threads, we are all statistical people. Your money on the table can be seen as EV (expected value). Sure your EV might be negative but it is not worth 0 in every bet. There will be times where you win and lose and in the instances where people gamble for fun, if they truly believe that "their money is gone" they can never leave winning unless they're winning a substantial amount! Then that way they will leave their EV in the negative or close to zero always!
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September 18, 2023, 10:11:08 AM
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Among the many interviews I have watched with gamblers who have recovered from addiction, there is a common feature - they say that the danger of starting to play again remains with them for life. It's like a stigma that always stays with you, and you can't get rid of it - you feel that you have to control yourself, and you need to avoid all kinds of gambling. In no case can you even play on a demo account, this is one of the rules of self-control. It is believed that a demo account is one step towards starting to play for real money again. Of course, it is much easier to control yourself if there are native people nearby.
This is something that happens to every single person that has experimented an addiction, as despite the fact that they know that going back to their former addiction is something bad, they cannot help but to crave for those sensations again, now this is very problematic for those that are addicted to illegal drugs, but it should be many times worse for those that got addicted to something that is legal, as the source of their addiction is everywhere and every single day is a struggle for them.

Therefore, you should always stay within the limits. And it's actually quite simple. But our human essence requires us to look beyond the edge and cross it. We never believe someone else's experience, and we won't believe it until we suffer from breaking the rules ourselves. From the decision they made themselves, turning a blind eye to the warnings of other people and the sad stories of people addicted to games. Therefore, it is very important to be able to control yourself and know your weaknesses. We need to be able to look at ourselves from the outside and admit that we are not perfect, and we ourselves may be in the narrator's chair about his gambling addiction. A lot of different circumstances can break us, but now we have no idea about them, because every person has his life experience limited, and expands throughout his life.

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September 18, 2023, 10:37:23 AM
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Fortunately/unfortunately for me I have experienced most of what OP has listed in the opening thread and this is quite interesting to see how much external factors put a punter off their game unknowingly...which makes me think gambling needs concentration without any sort of disturbances to play with your A game or maybe we playing the blame game thinking we can always be winners  Roll Eyes

I’m still tracking all my human error that keeps me giving a regular losses when I’m on this condition. Do you have something like this?

Btw it's safe to say one factor that is usually overlooked but plays a huge role in how one plays or wins has to go to emotions...if your mind is distracted and not fully invested chances are high that you can not make sound choices and hence the losses that follow...


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September 18, 2023, 01:59:27 PM
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Among the many interviews I have watched with gamblers who have recovered from addiction, there is a common feature - they say that the danger of starting to play again remains with them for life. It's like a stigma that always stays with you, and you can't get rid of it - you feel that you have to control yourself, and you need to avoid all kinds of gambling. In no case can you even play on a demo account, this is one of the rules of self-control. It is believed that a demo account is one step towards starting to play for real money again. Of course, it is much easier to control yourself if there are native people nearby.
This is something that happens to every single person that has experimented an addiction, as despite the fact that they know that going back to their former addiction is something bad, they cannot help but to crave for those sensations again, now this is very problematic for those that are addicted to illegal drugs, but it should be many times worse for those that got addicted to something that is legal, as the source of their addiction is everywhere and every single day is a struggle for them.

Therefore, you should always stay within the limits. And it's actually quite simple. But our human essence requires us to look beyond the edge and cross it. We never believe someone else's experience, and we won't believe it until we suffer from breaking the rules ourselves. From the decision they made themselves, turning a blind eye to the warnings of other people and the sad stories of people addicted to games. Therefore, it is very important to be able to control yourself and know your weaknesses. We need to be able to look at ourselves from the outside and admit that we are not perfect, and we ourselves may be in the narrator's chair about his gambling addiction. A lot of different circumstances can break us, but now we have no idea about them, because every person has his life experience limited, and expands throughout his life.
Curious people, right? Always trying to cross lines. We naturally consider "What if?"

Why is it that we still believe "That won't be me" even after hearing horrific tales about addiction? I've seen the good, the bad, and the ugly a few times. Our ego, our stubbornness, our need to be right – it's crazy how often these things get us in trouble. Really, how many times do we need to be told this? But no, we always think we're the unique like that, right?

I agree that self-awareness is really important. I've seen friends get hooked on  and lose everything. It looks bad. We don't really understand something until we're in the middle of it. Know what your limits are. Trust me, you're not as strong as you think

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September 18, 2023, 08:33:51 PM
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This is something that happens to every single person that has experimented an addiction, as despite the fact that they know that going back to their former addiction is something bad, they cannot help but to crave for those sensations again, now this is very problematic for those that are addicted to illegal drugs, but it should be many times worse for those that got addicted to something that is legal, as the source of their addiction is everywhere and every single day is a struggle for them.
Therefore, you should always stay within the limits. And it's actually quite simple. But our human essence requires us to look beyond the edge and cross it. We never believe someone else's experience, and we won't believe it until we suffer from breaking the rules ourselves. From the decision they made themselves, turning a blind eye to the warnings of other people and the sad stories of people addicted to games. Therefore, it is very important to be able to control yourself and know your weaknesses. We need to be able to look at ourselves from the outside and admit that we are not perfect, and we ourselves may be in the narrator's chair about his gambling addiction. A lot of different circumstances can break us, but now we have no idea about them, because every person has his life experience limited, and expands throughout his life.
Staying in your limits is not simple if you are a regular gambler. It starts becoming harder and harder as you go deeper into your gambling habit and finally find yourself addicted to it. It can be done if you are disciplined from the very beginning and you know that you can't gamble more than a certain amount or you can't keep gambling for more than a decided time span, but if you haven't been doing that from the beginning, you really can't do it later in your journey.

You will barely find a person who started gambling casually without any limit or anything and they started gambling as a responsible person later on, because once you are too deep into the ocean, there is no chance for you to learn swimming because you were supposed to practice that before going there.

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September 19, 2023, 04:55:58 AM
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This is something that happens to every single person that has experimented an addiction, as despite the fact that they know that going back to their former addiction is something bad, they cannot help but to crave for those sensations again, now this is very problematic for those that are addicted to illegal drugs, but it should be many times worse for those that got addicted to something that is legal, as the source of their addiction is everywhere and every single day is a struggle for them.
Therefore, you should always stay within the limits. And it's actually quite simple. But our human essence requires us to look beyond the edge and cross it. We never believe someone else's experience, and we won't believe it until we suffer from breaking the rules ourselves. From the decision they made themselves, turning a blind eye to the warnings of other people and the sad stories of people addicted to games. Therefore, it is very important to be able to control yourself and know your weaknesses. We need to be able to look at ourselves from the outside and admit that we are not perfect, and we ourselves may be in the narrator's chair about his gambling addiction. A lot of different circumstances can break us, but now we have no idea about them, because every person has his life experience limited, and expands throughout his life.
Staying in your limits is not simple if you are a regular gambler. It starts becoming harder and harder as you go deeper into your gambling habit and finally find yourself addicted to it. It can be done if you are disciplined from the very beginning and you know that you can't gamble more than a certain amount or you can't keep gambling for more than a decided time span, but if you haven't been doing that from the beginning, you really can't do it later in your journey.

You will barely find a person who started gambling casually without any limit or anything and they started gambling as a responsible person later on, because once you are too deep into the ocean, there is no chance for you to learn swimming because you were supposed to practice that before going there.

Recently I thought that a cash-only game could help to control my deposit. Without using credit cards. This will allow you to stay in the limit, because you can't lose more than you have on your hands.
It would also be a great solution to play exclusively games that are familiar to gambler. So there will be no losses due to the fact that the interface, or the rules were unclear from the very beginning.
It would also be a good solution to invite friends to be around during the game, they can make sure that the gambler did not fall into a tilt.

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September 19, 2023, 05:32:05 AM
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Fortunately/unfortunately for me I have experienced most of what OP has listed in the opening thread and this is quite interesting to see how much external factors put a punter off their game unknowingly...which makes me think gambling needs concentration without any sort of disturbances to play with your A game or maybe we playing the blame game thinking we can always be winners  Roll Eyes
When gambling we can feel quite high adrenaline we can even feel curiosity and satisfaction when we win but if we lose in large amounts we might stop without realizing it but most likely we won't stop because there is still an emotional feeling of winning the game that makes us losing even though in that position all the money they have has run out but everyone always racks their brains and looks for shortcuts to make money so they can keep playing.
In casino games concentration is not really needed except for poker games or other skill games that require intelligence or dexterity but it seems like what you are saying is that there are several important points presented here.

I’m still tracking all my human error that keeps me giving a regular losses when I’m on this condition. Do you have something like this?

Btw it's safe to say one factor that is usually overlooked but plays a huge role in how one plays or wins has to go to emotions...if your mind is distracted and not fully invested chances are high that you can not make sound choices and hence the losses that follow...


Yes that is human nature and is certainly experienced by most gamblers but it is true that every loss is caused by mistakes we make ourselves unless there is luck which we don't have. Shocked
On average the biggest mistakes are related to finances where we are too greedy in risking finances so that what should have been a small loss and could return to betting instead we lose everything in one game or bet.

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This is something that happens to every single person that has experimented an addiction, as despite the fact that they know that going back to their former addiction is something bad, they cannot help but to crave for those sensations again, now this is very problematic for those that are addicted to illegal drugs, but it should be many times worse for those that got addicted to something that is legal, as the source of their addiction is everywhere and every single day is a struggle for them.
Therefore, you should always stay within the limits. And it's actually quite simple. But our human essence requires us to look beyond the edge and cross it. We never believe someone else's experience, and we won't believe it until we suffer from breaking the rules ourselves. From the decision they made themselves, turning a blind eye to the warnings of other people and the sad stories of people addicted to games. Therefore, it is very important to be able to control yourself and know your weaknesses. We need to be able to look at ourselves from the outside and admit that we are not perfect, and we ourselves may be in the narrator's chair about his gambling addiction. A lot of different circumstances can break us, but now we have no idea about them, because every person has his life experience limited, and expands throughout his life.
Staying in your limits is not simple if you are a regular gambler. It starts becoming harder and harder as you go deeper into your gambling habit and finally find yourself addicted to it. It can be done if you are disciplined from the very beginning and you know that you can't gamble more than a certain amount or you can't keep gambling for more than a decided time span, but if you haven't been doing that from the beginning, you really can't do it later in your journey.

You will barely find a person who started gambling casually without any limit or anything and they started gambling as a responsible person later on, because once you are too deep into the ocean, there is no chance for you to learn swimming because you were supposed to practice that before going there.
A casual gambler does not become an addicted one in a straight line. There are several decisions, feelings, and situations involved. Not only is gambling a central concern here, but impulse control, self-awareness, and mental health are as well. Being responsible when gambling is possible, but it requires a strong sense of self-worth and discipline. The road becomes hazardous for anyone who embarks onto it without a strategy
But, things can always change. Remember that there are resources, professionals, and support networks available to assist people in finding their way back, even if you think it's too late. It's better to start late than never at all. The first step to regaining control is accepting responsibility

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I’m still tracking all my human error that keeps me giving a regular losses when I’m on this condition. Do you have something like this?
Btw it's safe to say one factor that is usually overlooked but plays a huge role in how one plays or wins has to go to emotions...if your mind is distracted and not fully invested chances are high that you can not make sound choices and hence the losses that follow...
Yes that is human nature and is certainly experienced by most gamblers but it is true that every loss is caused by mistakes we make ourselves unless there is luck which we don't have. Shocked
On average the biggest mistakes are related to finances where we are too greedy in risking finances so that what should have been a small loss and could return to betting instead we lose everything in one game or bet.
Most gamblers have experienced this and consider it the biggest mistake we have ever made. But maybe we will still have difficulty tracking our mistakes, especially if we have been gambling for a long time. We can only control ourselves so that we don't experience defeat like before and only by managing our finances can we do so that we don't lose much money. With self-control, we will not be too greedy in pursuing victory and will feel that we have won enough to quit gambling without any desire to get more wins. We know that we can win with the help of luck and if we have already won, we should stop gambling and take a break to lower the rising emotions.

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September 19, 2023, 11:22:01 AM
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This is something that happens to every single person that has experimented an addiction, as despite the fact that they know that going back to their former addiction is something bad, they cannot help but to crave for those sensations again, now this is very problematic for those that are addicted to illegal drugs, but it should be many times worse for those that got addicted to something that is legal, as the source of their addiction is everywhere and every single day is a struggle for them.
Therefore, you should always stay within the limits. And it's actually quite simple. But our human essence requires us to look beyond the edge and cross it. We never believe someone else's experience, and we won't believe it until we suffer from breaking the rules ourselves. From the decision they made themselves, turning a blind eye to the warnings of other people and the sad stories of people addicted to games. Therefore, it is very important to be able to control yourself and know your weaknesses. We need to be able to look at ourselves from the outside and admit that we are not perfect, and we ourselves may be in the narrator's chair about his gambling addiction. A lot of different circumstances can break us, but now we have no idea about them, because every person has his life experience limited, and expands throughout his life.
Staying in your limits is not simple if you are a regular gambler. It starts becoming harder and harder as you go deeper into your gambling habit and finally find yourself addicted to it. It can be done if you are disciplined from the very beginning and you know that you can't gamble more than a certain amount or you can't keep gambling for more than a decided time span, but if you haven't been doing that from the beginning, you really can't do it later in your journey.

You will barely find a person who started gambling casually without any limit or anything and they started gambling as a responsible person later on, because once you are too deep into the ocean, there is no chance for you to learn swimming because you were supposed to practice that before going there.

No one is forcibly dragging anyone to the casino and if a person has no strength to resist his desires then his mind is much weaker than the action of hormones that arise in his blood due to chemical reactions during gambling. I would advise such people not to gamble but to spend time and money to improve their mind and learn to fully control themselves. After all, an adult without proper control is similar to a child, and a child will always find problems.

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This is something that happens to every single person that has experimented an addiction, as despite the fact that they know that going back to their former addiction is something bad, they cannot help but to crave for those sensations again, now this is very problematic for those that are addicted to illegal drugs, but it should be many times worse for those that got addicted to something that is legal, as the source of their addiction is everywhere and every single day is a struggle for them.
Therefore, you should always stay within the limits. And it's actually quite simple. But our human essence requires us to look beyond the edge and cross it. We never believe someone else's experience, and we won't believe it until we suffer from breaking the rules ourselves. From the decision they made themselves, turning a blind eye to the warnings of other people and the sad stories of people addicted to games. Therefore, it is very important to be able to control yourself and know your weaknesses. We need to be able to look at ourselves from the outside and admit that we are not perfect, and we ourselves may be in the narrator's chair about his gambling addiction. A lot of different circumstances can break us, but now we have no idea about them, because every person has his life experience limited, and expands throughout his life.
Staying in your limits is not simple if you are a regular gambler. It starts becoming harder and harder as you go deeper into your gambling habit and finally find yourself addicted to it. It can be done if you are disciplined from the very beginning and you know that you can't gamble more than a certain amount or you can't keep gambling for more than a decided time span, but if you haven't been doing that from the beginning, you really can't do it later in your journey.

You will barely find a person who started gambling casually without any limit or anything and they started gambling as a responsible person later on, because once you are too deep into the ocean, there is no chance for you to learn swimming because you were supposed to practice that before going there.

It's too easy to say "just be self-disciplined."
Nobody knows all his inner demons. We perfectly see the weaknesses of others and their examples from life are always obvious and simple for us, but in fact we ourselves have neither the ability to look at ourselves from the outside nor self-control. Imagine that you won a large sum with the first bet.
Will your inner state remain the same?
I wrote that it's better to keep friends around, or write down your limit, or have only cash. The next time I go to the casino, I will definitely follow these rules, because you need to be especially strict with yourself.

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Yes, there are many points that completely coincide. I don’t play or place bets if I’m tired,this has already been proven more than once. The result will most often be only negative. First of all, you must be in the mood and strength, then you can do it. If the event is of a global scale, then I can ask my friends to place a bet for me in advance, but not for a large amount, just as much as I am willing to spend.

Well, this has to do with something with your readiness and not just that you are tired and you will lose. This is no logic.

Yes. when you are fresh, you will think more before placing the bet, you will research more and therefore the chances of winning the bet will increase as compared to a situation where you are tired and just place the bet. Although there is no hard and fast rule, that you will win the bet only when you are fresh and energetic, you can still lose the bet in both situations.

Of course, that is how you do it because in betting, even if it's just a sports-betting, it still requires analyzations and comparison of datum to minimize risks while increasing your chances. So, if you're already tired for the day then there should be no reason for you to bet even if you can still afford it as you will just be prone to a defeat because you are not in 100 percent condition. A lot of factors should be considered in betting, hence why gamblers should be ready for everything.

It must be the eagerness to win that causes the person to stay up despite being tired for the day. Maybe if he wins, he will be more alive. But obviously, you are just pushing yourself way too much when you keep playing while tired.

Some people however just sleep right next to their laptop. They even keep the news play up all night on youtube while asleep. And the moment they wake up, it's the price of BTC that they first check.


Well, generally things can be quite atypical, when a person does that, they are basically undergoing a stress process that can make them sick, we have something very important in our body, something called the immune system, if we don't put ourselves in This stress, the body manifests it, some people have outbreaks, it produces other reactions, it affects the heart and usually causes discomfort, I know that work and the things they have to do with this can have an effect, but basically we should always take care of these things, because the human body is basically one with the mind, and if a person has that level of stress combined with what can be called the obsession of a price or something, it can present itself as something similar to that of casinos, because basically it goes towards what we could call strong emotions, that's where other things come in.

In the game we always do things like being able to make the most of what we can with money, but there are things so basic that we forget like the house advantage, which we constantly see when we enter a casino to play what we do is Fight against that Advantage , is what every player must have consideration, and submitting to a great deal of stress that in the long run will do more harm than good, it is something that we cannot do, we are good at seeking profits , we must also be good at accepting losses, recovering and seeing the losses as something normal, in trading, in the casino, in games of chance, these things are the ones that we can basically see as what can happen,

In almost the largest ones like stake.com we see many Examples of people who have won a lot on slots, but why ? because they are the ones who make almost million-dollar bets, bets of more than 100usd for me is a lot, but for another person it is not much, that's all we basically have to see is that to get to that level you have to have Persistence.

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September 20, 2023, 05:21:22 AM
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This is something that happens to every single person that has experimented an addiction, as despite the fact that they know that going back to their former addiction is something bad, they cannot help but to crave for those sensations again, now this is very problematic for those that are addicted to illegal drugs, but it should be many times worse for those that got addicted to something that is legal, as the source of their addiction is everywhere and every single day is a struggle for them.
Therefore, you should always stay within the limits. And it's actually quite simple. But our human essence requires us to look beyond the edge and cross it. We never believe someone else's experience, and we won't believe it until we suffer from breaking the rules ourselves. From the decision they made themselves, turning a blind eye to the warnings of other people and the sad stories of people addicted to games. Therefore, it is very important to be able to control yourself and know your weaknesses. We need to be able to look at ourselves from the outside and admit that we are not perfect, and we ourselves may be in the narrator's chair about his gambling addiction. A lot of different circumstances can break us, but now we have no idea about them, because every person has his life experience limited, and expands throughout his life.
Staying in your limits is not simple if you are a regular gambler. It starts becoming harder and harder as you go deeper into your gambling habit and finally find yourself addicted to it. It can be done if you are disciplined from the very beginning and you know that you can't gamble more than a certain amount or you can't keep gambling for more than a decided time span, but if you haven't been doing that from the beginning, you really can't do it later in your journey.

You will barely find a person who started gambling casually without any limit or anything and they started gambling as a responsible person later on, because once you are too deep into the ocean, there is no chance for you to learn swimming because you were supposed to practice that before going there.

It's too easy to say "just be self-disciplined."
Nobody knows all his inner demons. We perfectly see the weaknesses of others and their examples from life are always obvious and simple for us, but in fact we ourselves have neither the ability to look at ourselves from the outside nor self-control. Imagine that you won a large sum with the first bet.
Will your inner state remain the same?
I wrote that it's better to keep friends around, or write down your limit, or have only cash. The next time I go to the casino, I will definitely follow these rules, because you need to be especially strict with yourself.
Each person does really have that different control on which it would really be just that normal that there would be people who can or cant really be able to follow into those limits that they had set earlier.It would really be neither a success or fail when it comes to that limit because not all would really be that having that inner discipline and control which it is really true on what you have said.This is why we dont have the rights on telling that they should do this and do that because we do have our own will and awareness when it comes to the things that we are currently dealing with.It is really just that there are people who are really that mindful about their money and doesnt really tend to waste it off with gambling and this is why it would really be just simply common that they would really be that able to avoid such disaster. There are really people who do really fail
on doing so and this is why they do really end up on a mess. Losing is a common scenario with gambling and you should really be that seeking for entertainment when playing gambling but it would be understandable that
losing is never been that entertaining and this is why its better to make yourself that get prepared.

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It's too easy to say "just be self-disciplined."
Nobody knows all his inner demons. We perfectly see the weaknesses of others and their examples from life are always obvious and simple for us, but in fact we ourselves have neither the ability to look at ourselves from the outside nor self-control. Imagine that you won a large sum with the first bet.
Will your inner state remain the same?
I wrote that it's better to keep friends around, or write down your limit, or have only cash. The next time I go to the casino, I will definitely follow these rules, because you need to be especially strict with yourself.
It's easy to say but difficult to do.
Yes, all of that is true and I also doubt that someone who is very easy to say be disciplined will not be able to control themselves, even when they get a big win someone will not easily stop gambling and leave gambling but instead will continue betting in the hope of winning bigger and without them realizing that it was the beginning of the defeat that awaited him.
Just imagine when someone says discipline is very important and it is very surprising that he gets a big win and in 1 hour he loses it all because he tried to stop but couldn't which is caused by greed which always defeats all discipline and for me there are only 20% of gamblers who are disciplined .

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September 20, 2023, 06:39:45 PM
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Fortunately/unfortunately for me I have experienced most of what OP has listed in the opening thread and this is quite interesting to see how much external factors put a punter off their game unknowingly...which makes me think gambling needs concentration without any sort of disturbances to play with your A game or maybe we playing the blame game thinking we can always be winners  Roll Eyes
When gambling we can feel quite high adrenaline we can even feel curiosity and satisfaction when we win but if we lose in large amounts we might stop without realizing it but most likely we won't stop because there is still an emotional feeling of winning the game that makes us losing even though in that position all the money they have has run out but everyone always racks their brains and looks for shortcuts to make money so they can keep playing.
In casino games concentration is not really needed except for poker games or other skill games that require intelligence or dexterity but it seems like what you are saying is that there are several important points presented here.

I’m still tracking all my human error that keeps me giving a regular losses when I’m on this condition. Do you have something like this?

Btw it's safe to say one factor that is usually overlooked but plays a huge role in how one plays or wins has to go to emotions...if your mind is distracted and not fully invested chances are high that you can not make sound choices and hence the losses that follow...


Yes that is human nature and is certainly experienced by most gamblers but it is true that every loss is caused by mistakes we make ourselves unless there is luck which we don't have. Shocked
On average the biggest mistakes are related to finances where we are too greedy in risking finances so that what should have been a small loss and could return to betting instead we lose everything in one game or bet.

But what OP did is to create a track record and to review. That is on key role in any type of business. Remember if you want a successful gambling, you have to approach it as a business. It is paying attention to details. The journaling of negative traits to get aware of what attitudes and behavior make him more lose into the game. By reviewing, he become aware of what things to prevent and more to practice on moving forward.

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September 20, 2023, 06:48:53 PM
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It's too easy to say "just be self-disciplined."
Nobody knows all his inner demons. We perfectly see the weaknesses of others and their examples from life are always obvious and simple for us, but in fact we ourselves have neither the ability to look at ourselves from the outside nor self-control. Imagine that you won a large sum with the first bet.
Will your inner state remain the same?
I wrote that it's better to keep friends around, or write down your limit, or have only cash. The next time I go to the casino, I will definitely follow these rules, because you need to be especially strict with yourself.
It's easy to say but difficult to do.
Yes, all of that is true and I also doubt that someone who is very easy to say be disciplined will not be able to control themselves, even when they get a big win someone will not easily stop gambling and leave gambling but instead will continue betting in the hope of winning bigger and without them realizing that it was the beginning of the defeat that awaited him.
Just imagine when someone says discipline is very important and it is very surprising that he gets a big win and in 1 hour he loses it all because he tried to stop but couldn't which is caused by greed which always defeats all discipline and for me there are only 20% of gamblers who are disciplined .

I agree with the both of you, but something we must also understand is that, lack of discipline in gambling has every thing to do with addiction, it is obvious that gambling addicts don't know what the word "discipline" mean in gambling,.

And as for a gambler who is not addicted to gambling and does not discipline him or herself in their gambling activities, such person is also on the highway to becoming a gambling addict.

So when you say that only 20 percent of gamblers are disciplined , I assume that what you mean also is that. It's only 20 percent of gamblers who are not addicted to gambling, I might not want to believe this though .

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I agree with the both of you, but something we must also understand is that, lack of discipline in gambling has every thing to do with addiction, it is obvious that gambling addicts don't know what the word "discipline" mean in gambling,.

And as for a gambler who is not addicted to gambling and does not discipline him or herself in their gambling activities, such person is also on the highway to becoming a gambling addict.

So when you say that only 20 percent of gamblers are disciplined , I assume that what you mean also is that. It's only 20 percent of gamblers who are not addicted to gambling, I might not want to believe this though .
Of all the activities that are often associated with compulsion issues, gambling should be one with the lowest rates of addiction, and this is most likely the case because people deep down can control themselves very well when they gamble.

Now a person may lose control once or twice, but they will learn from those experiences and never make this mistake again, after all if the percentage of people which were addicted or on their way to become addicted to gambling was really 80% then we can be sure gambling will be banned by now as it would be impossible to have a working society otherwise.

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September 21, 2023, 08:46:39 AM
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It's too easy to say "just be self-disciplined."
Nobody knows all his inner demons. We perfectly see the weaknesses of others and their examples from life are always obvious and simple for us, but in fact we ourselves have neither the ability to look at ourselves from the outside nor self-control. Imagine that you won a large sum with the first bet.
Will your inner state remain the same?
I wrote that it's better to keep friends around, or write down your limit, or have only cash. The next time I go to the casino, I will definitely follow these rules, because you need to be especially strict with yourself.
That's exactly the thing, having self-control or staying within your limits is not as easy as one might think it is because if you are gambling regularly, you will probably find it hard to maintain a limit if you haven't been practicing that from the beginning. When someone wins a big amount or maybe loses more than they can afford to, that is when they don't remember about any limit or have any self-control, they will either become greedy and want more or will become angry and try to recover their losses.

And we all know what happens in both situations. When you get greedy, you will most probably lose what you have managed to win so far which is unfortunate, of course. When you become angry or emotional, you will deposit more money and try to recover your losses and lose that as well in most cases.

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September 21, 2023, 09:21:56 AM
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It's too easy to say "just be self-disciplined."
Nobody knows all his inner demons. We perfectly see the weaknesses of others and their examples from life are always obvious and simple for us, but in fact we ourselves have neither the ability to look at ourselves from the outside nor self-control. Imagine that you won a large sum with the first bet.
Will your inner state remain the same?
I wrote that it's better to keep friends around, or write down your limit, or have only cash. The next time I go to the casino, I will definitely follow these rules, because you need to be especially strict with yourself.
When talking about the issue of discipline or self-control in gambling, it is actually easier said than done because we know not only about gambling but in everything where theory is easier than practice.
But on the other hand, we also have to realize that even though it is a difficult condition, we still have to try to say it at least to be a reminder to ourselves that healthy gambling must be accompanied by good self-control and discipline.
In the end, it is things like that that make us able to minimize what we do at the gambling table.

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September 21, 2023, 10:46:22 AM
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It's too easy to say "just be self-disciplined."
Nobody knows all his inner demons. We perfectly see the weaknesses of others and their examples from life are always obvious and simple for us, but in fact we ourselves have neither the ability to look at ourselves from the outside nor self-control. Imagine that you won a large sum with the first bet.
Will your inner state remain the same?
I wrote that it's better to keep friends around, or write down your limit, or have only cash. The next time I go to the casino, I will definitely follow these rules, because you need to be especially strict with yourself.

You get the point. Implementing "self-discipline" is not easy for most people. I often experience this, not only in gambling but also in trading matters. Often I violate what I have set before gambling/trading. In gambling, when we lose and greed becomes a "demon" that makes us break the rules we made for ourselves before gambling. When we are losing, we should stop, but the real conditions is adding deposit to gamble again. But in winning moments, when we should to stop and happy with that amount, we want more till lose again. If it happens, self-discipline no longer applies anymore. Our inner demons is the winner to control us.  Cheesy

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