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August 28, 2023, 10:12:46 PM
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The gambler should take the cock fight as only for the fun.

I don't seem to find any enjoyment in letting two unknowing animals fight to the death just because humans said so. It's a crude form of entertainment, and people pay and bet on it not because they are entertained, but because it's their way of making money. I'm not an animal activist whatsoever, but knowing that these animals are fighting for their survival at the time that they are put inside the arena against their will? Well, that's something to think about, but I guess money and tradition come first before animal welfare.
This is a means of entertainment in some regions but not mine. The government can easily charge the people involved for abuse if animals and that can go as far  ending the people in charge to end up in jail. Jail is not a place for everyone but for people that keep going contrary to the rule of law. This kind of fight is mostly a betting stuff and some people see it as sport but that us left to them. Gamblers that most bet on this kind of sport are mere villagers that always look for means to make money for themselves indulging in animal sports like using hen, ram etc to fight and make bets.









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August 29, 2023, 12:00:24 AM
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No government will allow this game to be played. But in many places such games are conducted. If we look at the game of wrestling, there is a scripted game. But still sometimes I get news of some accidents and there is no script written in the game of these animals. Both animals are likely to be harmed in a fight. That's why even though this game is popular, it is not supported by the government. Others consider it a form of animal abuse. But behind the scenes this game is still quite popular. But I have no idea whether this game is run on any casino platform or not.
There are still places that the government cannot reach because it is difficult for the government to trace the location. That's because the players don't spread the location of the place to many people or many places so that only certain people who are familiar with cockfighting will know about it. They may be spectators who have often seen cockfights and enjoy the fights, apart from the regular players who continue to gamble.

That is why, in some countries, this cockfighting game is still quite popular even though only a few people know its location. But that's enough for us to know that this cockfight is still gambling and is growing rapidly. But we don't know whether this cockfighting fight is available in offline or online casinos.
You're right it all depends on the geographical location and the government rules and regulations for pets or animals. Besides, in some states in the US, there are rules for the motorist to stop for some certain animal to cross the road while in some states there's nothing like that. The same thing goes for cock fighting which there's no law discouraging it in some countries.

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August 29, 2023, 01:58:52 AM
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No government will allow this game to be played. But in many places such games are conducted. If we look at the game of wrestling, there is a scripted game. But still sometimes I get news of some accidents and there is no script written in the game of these animals. Both animals are likely to be harmed in a fight. That's why even though this game is popular, it is not supported by the government. Others consider it a form of animal abuse. But behind the scenes this game is still quite popular. But I have no idea whether this game is run on any casino platform or not.
There are still places that the government cannot reach because it is difficult for the government to trace the location. That's because the players don't spread the location of the place to many people or many places so that only certain people who are familiar with cockfighting will know about it. They may be spectators who have often seen cockfights and enjoy the fights, apart from the regular players who continue to gamble.

That is why, in some countries, this cockfighting game is still quite popular even though only a few people know its location. But that's enough for us to know that this cockfight is still gambling and is growing rapidly. But we don't know whether this cockfighting fight is available in offline or online casinos.
You're right it all depends on the geographical location and the government rules and regulations for pets or animals. Besides, in some states in the US, there are rules for the motorist to stop for some certain animal to cross the road while in some states there's nothing like that. The same thing goes for cock fighting which there's no law discouraging it in some countries.

They said they have some laws for it, it was being banned but only those cockpit arenas that are allowed to hold cockfighting events. The cockfighting events held from the outskirts are the ones that are illegal which only the locals know about.

It's the same thing that we do with our makeshift casinos in the backyards. The difference is that these cockfighting have evolved into online channels and I think the legal arenas are trying their luck for these opportunities to make money.


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August 29, 2023, 03:48:54 AM
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The gambler should take the cock fight as only for the fun.

I don't seem to find any enjoyment in letting two unknowing animals fight to the death just because humans said so. It's a crude form of entertainment, and people pay and bet on it not because they are entertained, but because it's their way of making money. I'm not an animal activist whatsoever, but knowing that these animals are fighting for their survival at the time that they are put inside the arena against their will? Well, that's something to think about, but I guess money and tradition come first before animal welfare.

I am from a country which fully supports this kind of gambling activity. I am not a fan of betting for these animals and I don't raise one, but this has been a tradition for quite some time already. This rosters were raised as if it's a part of your family, they need to be conditioned and with proper feeds and vitamins to achieve it's purpose. Once they die on the arena, they are served as a dinner for the winning team. One can define this as an animal cruelty if they are not part of its tradition. If we're disturbed by watching two rosters fighting each other till death, we should also be disturbed to see two human beings fighting in the ring hitting each others heads applying as much as force as they could to knock the opponent dead just for the money and culture. I mean how is that different? I think we all could agree that human lives are far more precious than the roster's.
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August 29, 2023, 04:38:45 AM
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No government will allow this game to be played. But in many places such games are conducted. If we look at the game of wrestling, there is a scripted game. But still sometimes I get news of some accidents and there is no script written in the game of these animals. Both animals are likely to be harmed in a fight. That's why even though this game is popular, it is not supported by the government. Others consider it a form of animal abuse. But behind the scenes this game is still quite popular. But I have no idea whether this game is run on any casino platform or not.
There are still places that the government cannot reach because it is difficult for the government to trace the location. That's because the players don't spread the location of the place to many people or many places so that only certain people who are familiar with cockfighting will know about it. They may be spectators who have often seen cockfights and enjoy the fights, apart from the regular players who continue to gamble.

That is why, in some countries, this cockfighting game is still quite popular even though only a few people know its location. But that's enough for us to know that this cockfight is still gambling and is growing rapidly. But we don't know whether this cockfighting fight is available in offline or online casinos.
You're right it all depends on the geographical location and the government rules and regulations for pets or animals. Besides, in some states in the US, there are rules for the motorist to stop for some certain animal to cross the road while in some states there's nothing like that. The same thing goes for cock fighting which there's no law discouraging it in some countries.
Well , even without rules to stop when animals are crossing the road , a driver with common sense will still stop and wait for the animal to cross he or she goes on driving , like here in Nigeria, there is no such law mandating drivers to stop for animals crossing, but we still stop or slow down when ever an animal is seen crossing the road, or if you are so much in a hurry and there is a space, you can try to dodge the animal, and this is because, if you decide to hit animal because there is no law against that..

First is that, the animal will be severely injured or be die, in either of this case , if the owner of that animal is around, and you are caught , you will have to pay heavily for the animal.

Secondly is that, your vehicle will sustain some damage which will also cost you money to repair , and this is if the accident do not turn fetal which may also claim your life , so this is it for laws on animals crossing the road .

Back to the main topic of discussion..cockfight is not common, like you said , it's a regional game, there is no way such games will ever enter global online gambling casinos, except we arrive at a stage where cockfight becomes a global thing.

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August 29, 2023, 07:09:57 AM
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The gambler should take the cock fight as only for the fun.

I don't seem to find any enjoyment in letting two unknowing animals fight to the death just because humans said so. It's a crude form of entertainment, and people pay and bet on it not because they are entertained, but because it's their way of making money. I'm not an animal activist whatsoever, but knowing that these animals are fighting for their survival at the time that they are put inside the arena against their will? Well, that's something to think about, but I guess money and tradition come first before animal welfare.

I am from a country which fully supports this kind of gambling activity. I am not a fan of betting for these animals and I don't raise one, but this has been a tradition for quite some time already. This rosters were raised as if it's a part of your family, they need to be conditioned and with proper feeds and vitamins to achieve it's purpose. Once they die on the arena, they are served as a dinner for the winning team. One can define this as an animal cruelty if they are not part of its tradition. If we're disturbed by watching two rosters fighting each other till death, we should also be disturbed to see two human beings fighting in the ring hitting each others heads applying as much as force as they could to knock the opponent dead just for the money and culture. I mean how is that different? I think we all could agree that human lives are far more precious than the roster's.

HAHAHHAHA. can't stop laughing when he stated that when "these rosters were raised as if it's a part of your family". This is very true in filipino culture. Baka mas mahal pa yan ng tatay mo. Your father loves the roster more than you, They say. Because the fight depends he future of the roster, it either becomes a champion or sahog sa tinola.

It's not about the iolence in animals that made it illegal in the Phlippines, it is because of the large corruption of it in online casino and online gambling The government had no choice then but to close it.

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August 29, 2023, 07:46:16 AM
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The gambler should take the cock fight as only for the fun.

I don't seem to find any enjoyment in letting two unknowing animals fight to the death just because humans said so. It's a crude form of entertainment, and people pay and bet on it not because they are entertained, but because it's their way of making money. I'm not an animal activist whatsoever, but knowing that these animals are fighting for their survival at the time that they are put inside the arena against their will? Well, that's something to think about, but I guess money and tradition come first before animal welfare.

I am from a country which fully supports this kind of gambling activity. I am not a fan of betting for these animals and I don't raise one, but this has been a tradition for quite some time already. This rosters were raised as if it's a part of your family, they need to be conditioned and with proper feeds and vitamins to achieve it's purpose. Once they die on the arena, they are served as a dinner for the winning team. One can define this as an animal cruelty if they are not part of its tradition. If we're disturbed by watching two rosters fighting each other till death, we should also be disturbed to see two human beings fighting in the ring hitting each others heads applying as much as force as they could to knock the opponent dead just for the money and culture. I mean how is that different? I think we all could agree that human lives are far more precious than the roster's.

HAHAHHAHA. can't stop laughing when he stated that when "these rosters were raised as if it's a part of your family". This is very true in filipino culture. Baka mas mahal pa yan ng tatay mo. Your father loves the roster more than you, They say. Because the fight depends he future of the roster, it either becomes a champion or sahog sa tinola.

It's not about the iolence in animals that made it illegal in the Phlippines, it is because of the large corruption of it in online casino and online gambling The government h
ad no choice then but to close it.
In any case, I think that as information about animal cruelty spreads through modern media and the Internet above all, more and more people in the world begin to resent such facts of cruelty.  And I hope that after a while such entertainment will be banned everywhere in the world. 
In addition, various social movements and societies are constantly developing in the world, the purpose of which is to protect animals.  And of course there are very active and caring people.  Thanks to this and the activity of such people, the governments of different countries are forced to adopt appropriate bans.  Even though such entertainment is a long tradition in some countries, hundreds of years old.

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August 29, 2023, 09:34:09 AM
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First cockfighting isn't ethical and is considered as a criminal activity. But since everyone is free to do anything here as long as it's not breaking any rules. I never seen any gambling website that offer this kind of activity since it's not considered as a sport or a game. Animals fights since they are organized by people it can be challenging with government rules that can stop that place and shut it down with the website.
I don't think there are any casinos that offer such things.
Indeed, we think it was not right and it is criminal activity but guess what, this is allowed in our country as long as it is legally operated. In fact, many rich people here in my country are involved in cockfighting, they spend millions if possible to have a number of roosters to be used for the game. But I'd never heard of or found any betting sites that promote cockfighting. You can bet this if you are in the arena where you can see an actual cockfighting and you can really see a lot of gamblers are there.

Well, I'm in an organization that works for animals, and that's why we consider cockfighting as what you're saying, a criminal act, even though chickens are for our consumption, that's one thing, but another very different thing is to see how you can enjoy how two animals fight until they kill each other, it is something quite rude to think that it is so, and even though in some countries these activities are quite legal, well that is something that despite the fact that I do not agree Well, it has to be respected, there is no other way, but there will come a time when these acts will not be allowed, because as a human being I am not capable of seeing something like that , I think I Would cry.

actually I am also against cockfighting not only because it is against the law but it is against animal welfare, indeed that chicken is for consumption but let them serve its purpose , kill them and cook them and eat them , but to put them in arena to kill each other? is that their purpose?
to make people happy and earning from gambling, there are lot of gambling games lets enjoy those and leave the animal alone.

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August 29, 2023, 10:17:45 AM
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Well, I'm in an organization that works for animals, and that's why we consider cockfighting as what you're saying, a criminal act, even though chickens are for our consumption, that's one thing, but another very different thing is to see how you can enjoy how two animals fight until they kill each other, it is something quite rude to think that it is so, and even though in some countries these activities are quite legal, well that is something that despite the fact that I do not agree Well, it has to be respected, there is no other way, but there will come a time when these acts will not be allowed, because as a human being I am not capable of seeing something like that , I think I Would cry.
It’s not only a rude thing to torture an animal just for some fun but we call that sickness, even that we consume and kill a lot of animals to survive people kill those animals in a quick and most quick possible way so they don’t suffer much chicken or sheep. I have seen butchers doing it in a very quick way just to not let that animal suffer much even some of them they don’t let them see other blood around that place.
Forcing two animals to fight until their death is first a waste of food since nobody will eat that dead body second those animals really get hurt. We have in our region organized fights between sheep and you can imagine that seen of two big sheep with their big horns clash and run into each others and the lost sheep they kill it. And yes even politicians are involved in this sick activities here the reason why they doing it freely and not letting animal protection organizations enter and forbid such things.
But even if in some places they allow this activity of animals fight it’s very hard to realize a casino for it, you won’t find any service or company that will allow such a thing so betting on them will be only there in real life.

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August 29, 2023, 11:25:06 AM
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actually I am also against cockfighting not only because it is against the law but it is against animal welfare, indeed that chicken is for consumption but let them serve its purpose , kill them and cook them and eat them , but to put them in arena to kill each other? is that their purpose?
to make people happy and earning from gambling, there are lot of gambling games lets enjoy those and leave the animal alone.

I share the same sentiments.

While it isn't illegal in our country to conduct a cockfighting activity, it is against the law to make a betting activities out of it because it becomes a breeding ground for corruption and other criminal activities due to desperation of most players involved in it as time passes by. It also doesn't provide the animal welfare these chickens deserve too. Despite having an omnivore diet, I believe these chickens don't deserve to die the harsh way which is by letting them fight each other until someone surrenders and dies eventually. Chickens are counted for consumption and not for human satisfying their ego by cockfighting. It's even banned in some countries which you can infer that there's really something wrong with it for it to be not allowed in other places.
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August 29, 2023, 01:13:38 PM
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actually I am also against cockfighting not only because it is against the law but it is against animal welfare, indeed that chicken is for consumption but let them serve its purpose , kill them and cook them and eat them , but to put them in arena to kill each other? is that their purpose?
to make people happy and earning from gambling, there are lot of gambling games lets enjoy those and leave the animal alone.

I share the same sentiments.

While it isn't illegal in our country to conduct a cockfighting activity, it is against the law to make a betting activities out of it because it becomes a breeding ground for corruption and other criminal activities due to desperation of most players involved in it as time passes by. It also doesn't provide the animal welfare these chickens deserve too. Despite having an omnivore diet, I believe these chickens don't deserve to die the harsh way which is by letting them fight each other until someone surrenders and dies eventually. Chickens are counted for consumption and not for human satisfying their ego by cockfighting. It's even banned in some countries which you can infer that there's really something wrong with it for it to be not allowed in other places.

In our country, gambling on cockfights has evolved into something of a tradition, especially for gamblers. While online broadcasting of these events is considered illegal, there are licensed cockpits regulated by the government. As long as they fulfill their tax obligations, these establishments are allowed to operate.

At one point, online cockfighting was sanctioned, but over time, the government recognized its potential negative impact on poverty rates. Consequently, they revoked the previously granted licenses. However, illegal websites that facilitate such betting might still exist. To counter this, the government is actively working to suppress these illicit online cockfighting streaming platforms.

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August 29, 2023, 01:44:38 PM
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You're right it all depends on the geographical location and the government rules and regulations for pets or animals. Besides, in some states in the US, there are rules for the motorist to stop for some certain animal to cross the road while in some states there's nothing like that. The same thing goes for cock fighting which there's no law discouraging it in some countries.
That's what I meant. Perhaps in our country it is allowed while in other countries it is not. It also depends on government regulations to protect pets or wild animals or to protect certain animals. And it also happens in countries that still allow cockfighting. But even though the state has banned people from cockfighting, there must still be cockfighting betting in hidden places because people who have often bet on cockfighting still want to do it with their friends. It is difficult to stop people from betting, whatever the gambling game is because it has been around for a long time and as entertainment for those who watch it. There are even street fights, which still exist in several places even though the government has strictly prohibited it.

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August 29, 2023, 01:52:39 PM
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to make people happy and earning from gambling, there are lot of gambling games lets enjoy those and leave the animal alone.
Yes, agree with that, because there are many crypto casino games out there that can be played without having to hurt animals, because there will also be no crypto casinos that will add this cockfighting gambling to crypto casinos because there will be a lot of opposition from other communities because it hurts animals according to I am not considered gambling, gambling without harming animals is of course widely available.

Why do we have to do that to get big money from gambling and make people happy by hurting animals that's not the behavior of true gamblers, because true gamblers only gamble with machines or other people without having to hurt and make one of the animals die because of cockfighting. should not expect such gambling to be added in crypto casinos should just play with locals will be great.

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August 29, 2023, 02:12:31 PM
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The gambler should take the cock fight as only for the fun.

I don't seem to find any enjoyment in letting two unknowing animals fight to the death just because humans said so. It's a crude form of entertainment, and people pay and bet on it not because they are entertained, but because it's their way of making money. I'm not an animal activist whatsoever, but knowing that these animals are fighting for their survival at the time that they are put inside the arena against their will? Well, that's something to think about, but I guess money and tradition come first before animal welfare.
This is a means of entertainment in some regions but not mine. The government can easily charge the people involved for abuse if animals and that can go as far  ending the people in charge to end up in jail. Jail is not a place for everyone but for people that keep going contrary to the rule of law. This kind of fight is mostly a betting stuff and some people see it as sport but that us left to them. Gamblers that most bet on this kind of sport are mere villagers that always look for means to make money for themselves indulging in animal sports like using hen, ram etc to fight and make bets.

I don't think the aim of allowing animals fight wasn't to targeted to the point of death although such may have resulted at the end of the whole show, just as we have with boxing for instance, you will discover how some boxers get series of serious injuries allover their face, yet this are human being involved all because of making money, they engage in this fight entertainment match or game, how much more using animals, man will not definitely hesitate in doing that as long as it's a form of entertainment to them and money is involved.
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August 29, 2023, 02:55:31 PM
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The gambler should take the cock fight as only for the fun.

I don't seem to find any enjoyment in letting two unknowing animals fight to the death just because humans said so. It's a crude form of entertainment, and people pay and bet on it not because they are entertained, but because it's their way of making money. I'm not an animal activist whatsoever, but knowing that these animals are fighting for their survival at the time that they are put inside the arena against their will? Well, that's something to think about, but I guess money and tradition come first before animal welfare.
This is a means of entertainment in some regions but not mine. The government can easily charge the people involved for abuse if animals and that can go as far  ending the people in charge to end up in jail. Jail is not a place for everyone but for people that keep going contrary to the rule of law. This kind of fight is mostly a betting stuff and some people see it as sport but that us left to them. Gamblers that most bet on this kind of sport are mere villagers that always look for means to make money for themselves indulging in animal sports like using hen, ram etc to fight and make bets.

I don't think the aim of allowing animals fight wasn't to targeted to the point of death although such may have resulted at the end of the whole show, just as we have with boxing for instance, you will discover how some boxers get series of serious injuries allover their face, yet this are human being involved all because of making money, they engage in this fight entertainment match or game, how much more using animals, man will not definitely hesitate in doing that as long as it's a form of entertainment to them and money is involved.

There is a difference between the man fights ( boxing / Wrestling etc) and the animal fights. In human fights they wear all sort of gloves and helmets to prevent the major injuries while in animal fight, most of the time the animals are left to keep on fighting with each other till death.  Sad
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August 29, 2023, 03:05:18 PM
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No government will allow this game to be played. But in many places such games are conducted. If we look at the game of wrestling, there is a scripted game. But still sometimes I get news of some accidents and there is no script written in the game of these animals. Both animals are likely to be harmed in a fight. That's why even though this game is popular, it is not supported by the government. Others consider it a form of animal abuse. But behind the scenes this game is still quite popular. But I have no idea whether this game is run on any casino platform or not.
There are still places that the government cannot reach because it is difficult for the government to trace the location. That's because the players don't spread the location of the place to many people or many places so that only certain people who are familiar with cockfighting will know about it. They may be spectators who have often seen cockfights and enjoy the fights, apart from the regular players who continue to gamble.

That is why, in some countries, this cockfighting game is still quite popular even though only a few people know its location. But that's enough for us to know that this cockfight is still gambling and is growing rapidly. But we don't know whether this cockfighting fight is available in offline or online casinos.
You're right it all depends on the geographical location and the government rules and regulations for pets or animals. Besides, in some states in the US, there are rules for the motorist to stop for some certain animal to cross the road while in some states there's nothing like that. The same thing goes for cock fighting which there's no law discouraging it in some countries.

Those rules are mostly limited to western countries because in most eastern countries government really don't care about pets or animals and there are no such rules and regulations. I don't think that other countries will ever implement such rules because they don't really care much about animals. The cock fighting is the worst example we see I have also heard that in some countries Pheasant fighting also takes place and people enjoy that more than cock-fighting. In those countries the law allow the citizens to have such activities without any restriction.

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August 29, 2023, 05:00:32 PM
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The gambler should take the cock fight as only for the fun.

I don't seem to find any enjoyment in letting two unknowing animals fight to the death just because humans said so. It's a crude form of entertainment, and people pay and bet on it not because they are entertained, but because it's their way of making money. I'm not an animal activist whatsoever, but knowing that these animals are fighting for their survival at the time that they are put inside the arena against their will? Well, that's something to think about, but I guess money and tradition come first before animal welfare.
This is a means of entertainment in some regions but not mine. The government can easily charge the people involved for abuse if animals and that can go as far  ending the people in charge to end up in jail. Jail is not a place for everyone but for people that keep going contrary to the rule of law. This kind of fight is mostly a betting stuff and some people see it as sport but that us left to them. Gamblers that most bet on this kind of sport are mere villagers that always look for means to make money for themselves indulging in animal sports like using hen, ram etc to fight and make bets.

I don't think the aim of allowing animals fight wasn't to targeted to the point of death although such may have resulted at the end of the whole show, just as we have with boxing for instance, you will discover how some boxers get series of serious injuries allover their face, yet this are human being involved all because of making money, they engage in this fight entertainment match or game, how much more using animals, man will not definitely hesitate in doing that as long as it's a form of entertainment to them and money is involved.

There is a difference between the man fights ( boxing / Wrestling etc) and the animal fights. In human fights they wear all sort of gloves and helmets to prevent the major injuries while in animal fight, most of the time the animals are left to keep on fighting with each other till death.  Sad
It is that this is the bad part, that an animal or animals fight until they die, and that is blood everywhere and it is really very wild to put animals like this where I can think that it is an act not worthy of a human being, but I have seen so many things, so many behaviors in human beings that it is unheard of for them to also mess with animals, there are all kinds of ugly things that are being allowed right now, and there is no respect, there is no longer any aspect of what we were taught values when we were little, now things have been so bad that they are allowing cockfighting, something that I consider prehistoric and that things are still happening to talk about, these are the things that should be prohibited in the world, Why is an animal defined as one of the things of humans?
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August 29, 2023, 09:50:10 PM
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The gambler should take the cock fight as only for the fun.

I don't seem to find any enjoyment in letting two unknowing animals fight to the death just because humans said so. It's a crude form of entertainment, and people pay and bet on it not because they are entertained, but because it's their way of making money. I'm not an animal activist whatsoever, but knowing that these animals are fighting for their survival at the time that they are put inside the arena against their will? Well, that's something to think about, but I guess money and tradition come first before animal welfare.

I am from a country which fully supports this kind of gambling activity. I am not a fan of betting for these animals and I don't raise one, but this has been a tradition for quite some time already. This rosters were raised as if it's a part of your family, they need to be conditioned and with proper feeds and vitamins to achieve it's purpose. Once they die on the arena, they are served as a dinner for the winning team. One can define this as an animal cruelty if they are not part of its tradition. If we're disturbed by watching two rosters fighting each other till death, we should also be disturbed to see two human beings fighting in the ring hitting each others heads applying as much as force as they could to knock the opponent dead just for the money and culture. I mean how is that different? I think we all could agree that human lives are far more precious than the roster's.

HAHAHHAHA. can't stop laughing when he stated that when "these rosters were raised as if it's a part of your family". This is very true in filipino culture. Baka mas mahal pa yan ng tatay mo. Your father loves the roster more than you, They say. Because the fight depends he future of the roster, it either becomes a champion or sahog sa tinola.

It's not about the iolence in animals that made it illegal in the Phlippines, it is because of the large corruption of it in online casino and online gambling The government h
ad no choice then but to close it.
In any case, I think that as information about animal cruelty spreads through modern media and the Internet above all, more and more people in the world begin to resent such facts of cruelty.  And I hope that after a while such entertainment will be banned everywhere in the world. 
In addition, various social movements and societies are constantly developing in the world, the purpose of which is to protect animals.  And of course there are very active and caring people.  Thanks to this and the activity of such people, the governments of different countries are forced to adopt appropriate bans.  Even though such entertainment is a long tradition in some countries, hundreds of years old.
There are countries who doesnt really mind off about animal cruelty but rather they would really just ignore it out and let it to happen or being permitted knowing that animal stocks could really be that just normally
specially poultry farm products such as pigs and chickens and cows on which it is really just that normal. It did really just turn out the male  chickens are really that raised up for such gambling activity.
We do know that each places does have that cultural practices and things which would correlated on various things specially gambling. Government wont really be stopping out completely if they do saw that they could really make out or generate huge revenue or take huge taxes on these things. They wont really be putting up that animal cruelty on their first priority but rather it would really be just second one.
It would really be entirely be depending if the petition is high but most likely they wont really care at all but would really be still that continuing on which they do seem that it would be beneficial.
Its not really that surprising on what they would really be prioritizing.

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August 29, 2023, 11:59:13 PM
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No government will allow this game to be played. But in many places such games are conducted. If we look at the game of wrestling, there is a scripted game. But still sometimes I get news of some accidents and there is no script written in the game of these animals. Both animals are likely to be harmed in a fight. That's why even though this game is popular, it is not supported by the government. Others consider it a form of animal abuse. But behind the scenes this game is still quite popular. But I have no idea whether this game is run on any casino platform or not.
There are still places that the government cannot reach because it is difficult for the government to trace the location. That's because the players don't spread the location of the place to many people or many places so that only certain people who are familiar with cockfighting will know about it. They may be spectators who have often seen cockfights and enjoy the fights, apart from the regular players who continue to gamble.

That is why, in some countries, this cockfighting game is still quite popular even though only a few people know its location. But that's enough for us to know that this cockfight is still gambling and is growing rapidly. But we don't know whether this cockfighting fight is available in offline or online casinos.
You're right it all depends on the geographical location and the government rules and regulations for pets or animals. Besides, in some states in the US, there are rules for the motorist to stop for some certain animal to cross the road while in some states there's nothing like that. The same thing goes for cock fighting which there's no law discouraging it in some countries.

They said they have some laws for it, it was being banned but only those cockpit arenas that are allowed to hold cockfighting events. The cockfighting events held from the outskirts are the ones that are illegal which only the locals know about.

It's the same thing that we do with our makeshift casinos in the backyards. The difference is that these cockfighting have evolved into online channels and I think the legal arenas are trying their luck for these opportunities to make money.
They claimed to have banned cockfighting while the cockpit arenas are still allowed to perform the same cockfighting then they didn't ban but only placed rules and regulations on cockfighting because the last time I checked when something is banned it is totally prohibited and it shouldn't perform or participated in within the region it's banned and there's always a severe punish for anyone who partakes in it.

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The gambler should take the cock fight as only for the fun.

I don't seem to find any enjoyment in letting two unknowing animals fight to the death just because humans said so. It's a crude form of entertainment, and people pay and bet on it not because they are entertained, but because it's their way of making money. I'm not an animal activist whatsoever, but knowing that these animals are fighting for their survival at the time that they are put inside the arena against their will? Well, that's something to think about, but I guess money and tradition come first before animal welfare.

I am from a country which fully supports this kind of gambling activity. I am not a fan of betting for these animals and I don't raise one, but this has been a tradition for quite some time already. This rosters were raised as if it's a part of your family, they need to be conditioned and with proper feeds and vitamins to achieve it's purpose. Once they die on the arena, they are served as a dinner for the winning team. One can define this as an animal cruelty if they are not part of its tradition. If we're disturbed by watching two rosters fighting each other till death, we should also be disturbed to see two human beings fighting in the ring hitting each others heads applying as much as force as they could to knock the opponent dead just for the money and culture. I mean how is that different? I think we all could agree that human lives are far more precious than the roster's.

HAHAHHAHA. can't stop laughing when he stated that when "these rosters were raised as if it's a part of your family". This is very true in filipino culture. Baka mas mahal pa yan ng tatay mo. Your father loves the roster more than you, They say. Because the fight depends he future of the roster, it either becomes a champion or sahog sa tinola.

It's not about the iolence in animals that made it illegal in the Phlippines, it is because of the large corruption of it in online casino and online gambling The government h
ad no choice then but to close it.
In any case, I think that as information about animal cruelty spreads through modern media and the Internet above all, more and more people in the world begin to resent such facts of cruelty.  And I hope that after a while such entertainment will be banned everywhere in the world. 
In addition, various social movements and societies are constantly developing in the world, the purpose of which is to protect animals.  And of course there are very active and caring people.  Thanks to this and the activity of such people, the governments of different countries are forced to adopt appropriate bans.  Even though such entertainment is a long tradition in some countries, hundreds of years old.
There are countries who doesnt really mind off about animal cruelty but rather they would really just ignore it out and let it to happen or being permitted knowing that animal stocks could really be that just normally
specially poultry farm products such as pigs and chickens and cows on which it is really just that normal. It did really just turn out the male  chickens are really that raised up for such gambling activity.
We do know that each places does have that cultural practices and things which would correlated on various things specially gambling. Government wont really be stopping out completely if they do saw that they could really make out or generate huge revenue or take huge taxes on these things. They wont really be putting up that animal cruelty on their first priority but rather it would really be just second one.
It would really be entirely be depending if the petition is high but most likely they wont really care at all but would really be still that continuing on which they do seem that it would be beneficial.
Its not really that surprising on what they would really be prioritizing.
I certainly agree with you that the process of protecting animals in many countries will be extremely difficult because of the traditions of these countries and certain communities in such countries. 
But I hope that the general direction of the development of civilization will still follow the path of combating various types of manifestations of cruelty.  In cockfights, such cruelty clearly takes place.  And it is especially dangerous for children and teenagers to watch such fights.  Therefore, I hope that various activists in the field of the fight against cruelty to animals and in general the protection of animals will increasingly act on public opinion in such countries and will finally force the governments to introduce appropriate bans by some kind of local laws. 
I understand that this type of business will still not completely stop and will continue as already illegal.  But at least there will be less of such bloody cruel entertainment.

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