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August 30, 2023, 12:26:40 PM
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^^ I think it's really hard to separate animal cruelty like cockfighting to other gambling. I mean there are countries that really like cockfighting and this become part of their culture and tradition. Yeah, it's cruel, but what can we do if it is being practice for thousands or even hundreds of years?

And as for the subject matter, I'm also not familiar with casino's offering this. So this is not possible to the OP, and I do not think that casinos are going to offer this cockfighting for many reasons. To be fair, I'm also from a country that grow up seeing cockfighting becoming a tradition and sports and used it to gamble.

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August 30, 2023, 12:38:01 PM
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^^ I think it's really hard to separate animal cruelty like cockfighting to other gambling. I mean there are countries that really like cockfighting and this become part of their culture and tradition. Yeah, it's cruel, but what can we do if it is being practice for thousands or even hundreds of years?

And as for the subject matter, I'm also not familiar with casino's offering this. So this is not possible to the OP, and I do not think that casinos are going to offer this cockfighting for many reasons. To be fair, I'm also from a country that grow up seeing cockfighting becoming a tradition and sports and used it to gamble.
You are right and I completely agree with you, there are indeed some cities where cockfighting is a major game and the citizens of such City loves betting on the game, but you will agree with me that this betting has remained on a local level, and to be sincere with you, I personally do not think there is any chance that we will ever have to bet on such games in an international level, because no international casino will ever want to list such games due to animal laws governing some jurisdictions or cities in several parts of the world..

So for cities where cockfighting is a thing for them, they can go ahead and enjoy the game, but for me personally though, I do not see or find any excitement in such games.

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August 30, 2023, 12:56:21 PM
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But I hope that the general direction of the development of civilization will still follow the path of combating various types of manifestations of cruelty.  In cockfights, such cruelty clearly takes place.  And it is especially dangerous for children and teenagers to watch such fights.  Therefore, I hope that various activists in the field of the fight against cruelty to animals and in general the protection of animals will increasingly act on public
Where I live, there are special regulations regarding cockfighting activities carried out by some people and stipulate that cockfighting is an illegal activity.
However, this cannot stop cockfighting activities carried out by the community. This is because cockfighting is an activity that has been around for a long time and has been preserved from generation to generation until it becomes embedded and entrenched so that cockfighting cannot be separated from people's lives.
Because this has been passed down from generation to generation, it is not uncommon for some parents to teach their children about cockfighting. And that teaching is what we have to break with.

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August 30, 2023, 01:20:45 PM
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^^ I think it's really hard to separate animal cruelty like cockfighting to other gambling. I mean there are countries that really like cockfighting and this become part of their culture and tradition. Yeah, it's cruel, but what can we do if it is being practice for thousands or even hundreds of years?

And as for the subject matter, I'm also not familiar with casino's offering this. So this is not possible to the OP, and I do not think that casinos are going to offer this cockfighting for many reasons. To be fair, I'm also from a country that grow up seeing cockfighting becoming a tradition and sports and used it to gamble.
You are right and I completely agree with you, there are indeed some cities where cockfighting is a major game and the citizens of such City loves betting on the game, but you will agree with me that this betting has remained on a local level, and to be sincere with you, I personally do not think there is any chance that we will ever have to bet on such games in an international level, because no international casino will ever want to list such games due to animal laws governing some jurisdictions or cities in several parts of the world..

So for cities where cockfighting is a thing for them, they can go ahead and enjoy the game, but for me personally though, I do not see or find any excitement in such games.
I have not even seen it anywhere around me. And I don't know how those cocks were trained to fight because can't understand human language so how did those guys tried to make those cocks fight, and that looks like a misery for me. But in the normal life I have seen two cock fight because of hen their woman and not for gambling purpose. And according to elderly people, when two fowls are fighting and you pin knife in the ground and close to them, they would be fighting for a very long time. And nobody can separate that cock fight. But I see that saying as a mere thought of human beings. It is a fairy tale.

Cockfighting game is not found in the African countries but it is majorly at the Asians countries and they like it very well. And I don't think any African Country will accept such game because cock is for eating so it is not good to use it to fight before using it to prepare meal again.

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August 30, 2023, 01:32:26 PM
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^^ I think it's really hard to separate animal cruelty like cockfighting to other gambling. I mean there are countries that really like cockfighting and this become part of their culture and tradition. Yeah, it's cruel, but what can we do if it is being practice for thousands or even hundreds of years?

And as for the subject matter, I'm also not familiar with casino's offering this. So this is not possible to the OP, and I do not think that casinos are going to offer this cockfighting for many reasons. To be fair, I'm also from a country that grow up seeing cockfighting becoming a tradition and sports and used it to gamble.
You are right and I completely agree with you, there are indeed some cities where cockfighting is a major game and the citizens of such City loves betting on the game, but you will agree with me that this betting has remained on a local level, and to be sincere with you, I personally do not think there is any chance that we will ever have to bet on such games in an international level, because no international casino will ever want to list such games due to animal laws governing some jurisdictions or cities in several parts of the world..

So for cities where cockfighting is a thing for them, they can go ahead and enjoy the game, but for me personally though, I do not see or find any excitement in such games.
I have not even seen it anywhere around me. And I don't know how those cocks were trained to fight because can't understand human language so how did those guys tried to make those cocks fight, and that looks like a misery for me. But in the normal life I have seen two cock fight because of hen their woman and not for gambling purpose. And according to elderly people, when two fowls are fighting and you pin knife in the ground and close to them, they would be fighting for a very long time. And nobody can separate that cock fight. But I see that saying as a mere thought of human beings. It is a fairy tale.

Cockfighting game is not found in the African countries but it is majorly at the Asians countries and they like it very well. And I don't think any African Country will accept such game because cock is for eating so it is not good to use it to fight before using it to prepare meal again.
Lol, you just reminded me of my childhood days when my parents used to tell me the same thing that went two cocks and fighting, and  you pin a knife on the ground close to them, they both will fight for a very long time , I also agree with you that this is nothing but a fairytale, it's just one of those things our parents used to tell us to rouse our fascination, while growing, I've tried that several times and it never worked .😁.

I also have never seen a cockfight game before aside the times when two cocks get angry at each other and fight for just a few seconds or minute, this is completely the natural form of the whole cockfighting stuffs, I've never seen the human arranged type of cockfighting in physical, aside some videos I watched on YouTube, I really do not know how humans are able to get the cocks to fight, maybe they feed the cocks with some kind of drugs that arouses their anger and cause them to begin to fight one another, or something of that sort, I really can not tell, maybe someone with experience on how this is done can tell us .

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August 30, 2023, 02:18:17 PM
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But I hope that the general direction of the development of civilization will still follow the path of combating various types of manifestations of cruelty.  In cockfights, such cruelty clearly takes place.  And it is especially dangerous for children and teenagers to watch such fights.  Therefore, I hope that various activists in the field of the fight against cruelty to animals and in general the protection of animals will increasingly act on public
Where I live, there are special regulations regarding cockfighting activities carried out by some people and stipulate that cockfighting is an illegal activity.
However, this cannot stop cockfighting activities carried out by the community. This is because cockfighting is an activity that has been around for a long time and has been preserved from generation to generation until it becomes embedded and entrenched so that cockfighting cannot be separated from people's lives.
Because this has been passed down from generation to generation, it is not uncommon for some parents to teach their children about cockfighting. And that teaching is what we have to break with.
People used to using cockfights for gambling will continue their tradition, especially if it relates to their ancestral traditions in a ceremony. It may only be eliminated if there is discussion or discussion among the local customary leaders. The government also cannot enforce the ban because it is a tradition that these people want to preserve. But outside of these ceremonies, the government can prohibit cockfighting because it is unlawful. But in the future, this cockfighting will be stopped by the government because anyone, including children, can watch this spectacle, which may become an event for these children.

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August 30, 2023, 02:22:15 PM
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^^ I think it's really hard to separate animal cruelty like cockfighting to other gambling. I mean there are countries that really like cockfighting and this become part of their culture and tradition. Yeah, it's cruel, but what can we do if it is being practice for thousands or even hundreds of years?

And as for the subject matter, I'm also not familiar with casino's offering this. So this is not possible to the OP, and I do not think that casinos are going to offer this cockfighting for many reasons. To be fair, I'm also from a country that grow up seeing cockfighting becoming a tradition and sports and used it to gamble.
You are right and I completely agree with you, there are indeed some cities where cockfighting is a major game and the citizens of such City loves betting on the game, but you will agree with me that this betting has remained on a local level, and to be sincere with you, I personally do not think there is any chance that we will ever have to bet on such games in an international level, because no international casino will ever want to list such games due to animal laws governing some jurisdictions or cities in several parts of the world..

So for cities where cockfighting is a thing for them, they can go ahead and enjoy the game, but for me personally though, I do not see or find any excitement in such games.


Traditionally right, we see most of this gambling from every side of the cities people are really enjoying raising cock then place their savings and gamble with their fate, hoping that luck will back them up and allow them to win and continue to have their fighters till the next fight that possible to arrange. And same with both of you, casino or big casinos might not have that interest, as they are busy with those common games that gamblers keep on playing and keep going back to enjoy and be entertained.

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Traditionally right, we see most of this gambling from every side of the cities people are really enjoying raising cock then place their savings and gamble with their fate, hoping that luck will back them up and allow them to win and continue to have their fighters till the next fight that possible to arrange. And same with both of you, casino or big casinos might not have that interest, as they are busy with those common games that gamblers keep on playing and keep going back to enjoy and be entertained.


You can see many cock raisers from provinces like in our country and this is the folks past time, it's easy to raise fighting cocks in the province and they have vast open lands and some of them do not have electricity and internet so they have ample time to raise cocks and they go to the town proper to gamble with their cock.

This is the reason why online cockfighting became so popular in many countries in Asia because people from these countries know how to play this kind of game, its actually dangerous and highly addictive because you have two cocks fighting and you think you have a good chance to win.


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August 30, 2023, 07:29:25 PM
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I think it's really hard to separate animal cruelty like cockfighting to other gambling. I mean there are countries that really like cockfighting and this become part of their culture and tradition. Yeah, it's cruel, but what can we do if it is being practice for thousands or even hundreds of years?
That is crappy culture and tradition if you ask me. So many animals are worshipped like gods in some countries which is good to witness, but using animals to destroy each other for our entertainment is bad culture period.

Such stuff is prevalent only in third world countries and we all know why.

Like it or not, such pathetic forms of entertainment are decreasing with time thanks to world governments growing smarter, people losing interest in them etc though they will never completely go away.

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August 30, 2023, 07:41:12 PM
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Wait what? Cockfighting? I don't think any crypto casino has that available on them. Crypto casino has all the games that can be played online or some simulations that they can put which are based on probability. Cockfighting is a physical game that can not be implemented in any online platform. Or it won't the as fair as physical games.

Try to find it in offline casinos. Maybe they have that. But I don't know of any online platform that has it. I am curious tho. Why are you trying to search for this weird game?
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^^ I think it's really hard to separate animal cruelty like cockfighting to other gambling. I mean there are countries that really like cockfighting and this become part of their culture and tradition. Yeah, it's cruel, but what can we do if it is being practice for thousands or even hundreds of years?

And as for the subject matter, I'm also not familiar with casino's offering this. So this is not possible to the OP, and I do not think that casinos are going to offer this cockfighting for many reasons. To be fair, I'm also from a country that grow up seeing cockfighting becoming a tradition and sports and used it to gamble.
You are right and I completely agree with you, there are indeed some cities where cockfighting is a major game and the citizens of such City loves betting on the game, but you will agree with me that this betting has remained on a local level, and to be sincere with you, I personally do not think there is any chance that we will ever have to bet on such games in an international level, because no international casino will ever want to list such games due to animal laws governing some jurisdictions or cities in several parts of the world..

So for cities where cockfighting is a thing for them, they can go ahead and enjoy the game, but for me personally though, I do not see or find any excitement in such games.

I am not sure I would be keen on betting to see animals fight, particularly cocks which tend to fight to death. Seems a bit of a sadistic play in my views. But, also, I know very little about how to choose the best animal and how to place a bet on-line for it. There are a million better options to play and bet, I would even argue that at least in boxing there are two people who know what they do and get money for it.

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August 30, 2023, 08:11:50 PM
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Wait what? Cockfighting? I don't think any crypto casino has that available on them. Crypto casino has all the games that can be played online or some simulations that they can put which are based on probability. Cockfighting is a physical game that can not be implemented in any online platform. Or it won't the as fair as physical games.

Try to find it in offline casinos. Maybe they have that. But I don't know of any online platform that has it. I am curious tho. Why are you trying to search for this weird game?
It's a massively famous casino game in our country back then when it's still on pandemic and people are so boring that they rely in cockfighting casino to solve their boringness. I remember that when the online platform that only accepts fiat was banned in our country due to problems that a casino brings, sample problems are addiction, match fixing and of course tax evasion. Another online version platform where created immediately and one payment option is cryptocurrency. It was an underground cockfighting casino since our country banned cockfighting online casinos. I think they are gone now since there's no news about that casino or heard from it anymore.

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Interesting. From my understanding, this could only be found in local platforms that are specifically created for this. But I doubt any reputable crypto casino have this. And from your information, it was created based on a trend over there and vanished when the trend was over. These kind of games are popular in some areas and not widely popular all over the world. And in order to make people attractive towards any platforms, they implements only well knows games and those that are easily to play.

So I don't think there will be any luck finding one platform that has Cockfighting in it. Better to focus on other games that are available there. But if anyone finds it, let me know. I wanna experience it too LOL. Grin
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August 30, 2023, 08:53:57 PM
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^^ I think it's really hard to separate animal cruelty like cockfighting to other gambling. I mean there are countries that really like cockfighting and this become part of their culture and tradition. Yeah, it's cruel, but what can we do if it is being practice for thousands or even hundreds of years?

And as for the subject matter, I'm also not familiar with casino's offering this. So this is not possible to the OP, and I do not think that casinos are going to offer this cockfighting for many reasons. To be fair, I'm also from a country that grow up seeing cockfighting becoming a tradition and sports and used it to gamble.
I was curious to read what are the countries that allow such games,  I am aware that the game were animals are used to fight in a cruel condition are mostly done in the local areas where the eyes of the government can not reach since the government frawn at it in most countries.
And they have put in place measures to safeguard their animals and how they are being used.
Some countries around the world have regulations that already fight and protect the rights of animals.

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August 30, 2023, 09:32:24 PM
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^^ I think it's really hard to separate animal cruelty like cockfighting to other gambling. I mean there are countries that really like cockfighting and this become part of their culture and tradition. Yeah, it's cruel, but what can we do if it is being practice for thousands or even hundreds of years?

And as for the subject matter, I'm also not familiar with casino's offering this. So this is not possible to the OP, and I do not think that casinos are going to offer this cockfighting for many reasons. To be fair, I'm also from a country that grow up seeing cockfighting becoming a tradition and sports and used it to gamble.
I was curious to read what are the countries that allow such games,  I am aware that the game were animals are used to fight in a cruel condition are mostly done in the local areas where the eyes of the government can not reach since the government frawn at it in most countries.
And they have put in place measures to safeguard their animals and how they are being used.
Some countries around the world have regulations that already fight and protect the rights of animals.
There are places on which they are really strict when it comes to this and there are places which arent really that too keen when it comes to this one unless if its endangered but if we do speak about fighting cocks on which

it is really that not hard for it to be breed then it wont really be that much of an issue if ever they would really be deciding on legalizing it and they would really be that minding about the potential taxes that they could
really be able to put on and wont really be that be mindful about cruelty or such issue or in concern. Some places in the world dont mind whether its a livestock or not as long it is considered to be animal then
they are really that having that kind of protection unless if its really that meant for supply like pigs and cows then there would be exemptions.

Specially being used on gambling where those animals would be fighting to death then it turns out to be not a good thing to look at and not ethical things to be done.It does really vary
on certain countries laws and regulations whether its allowed or not.

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^^ I think it's really hard to separate animal cruelty like cockfighting to other gambling. I mean there are countries that really like cockfighting and this become part of their culture and tradition. Yeah, it's cruel, but what can we do if it is being practice for thousands or even hundreds of years?

And as for the subject matter, I'm also not familiar with casino's offering this. So this is not possible to the OP, and I do not think that casinos are going to offer this cockfighting for many reasons. To be fair, I'm also from a country that grow up seeing cockfighting becoming a tradition and sports and used it to gamble.
I was curious to read what are the countries that allow such games,  I am aware that the game were animals are used to fight in a cruel condition are mostly done in the local areas where the eyes of the government can not reach since the government frawn at it in most countries.
And they have put in place measures to safeguard their animals and how they are being used.
Some countries around the world have regulations that already fight and protect the rights of animals.
They should all protect animal rights.
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August 31, 2023, 09:27:45 AM
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They should all protect animal rights.
They do have to protect, but they can't do it every day because it would be a task that would never be finished. Maybe they finished in one place, but in reality, there will be a fight in another place and they often don't know where the fight is. And that makes them too late to deal with it.

Those trying to protect all animals need more information, while not everyone is willing to share information about cockfighting betting. Many of them don't know where it is because only people who are used to betting on cockfights will be told about the location of the betting place. So it's natural that we still hear about cockfighting in several locations because the regulator cannot control it completely.

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August 31, 2023, 10:38:42 AM
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But I hope that the general direction of the development of civilization will still follow the path of combating various types of manifestations of cruelty.  In cockfights, such cruelty clearly takes place.  And it is especially dangerous for children and teenagers to watch such fights.  Therefore, I hope that various activists in the field of the fight against cruelty to animals and in general the protection of animals will increasingly act on public
Where I live, there are special regulations regarding cockfighting activities carried out by some people and stipulate that cockfighting is an illegal activity.
However, this cannot stop cockfighting activities carried out by the community. This is because cockfighting is an activity that has been around for a long time and has been preserved from generation to generation until it becomes embedded and entrenched so that cockfighting cannot be separated from people's lives.
Because this has been passed down from generation to generation, it is not uncommon for some parents to teach their children about cockfighting. And that teaching is what we have to break with.
There is no shortage of people watching this game. In short, it can be a popular game. But if the fight is made where the rooster gets hurt, how do you fell that? If you can make sure no rooster gets hurt then I guess this game is not bad. This has been identified in disallowing this game today. Some feel that animals are being treated unfairly if such sports are encouraged. There are other forms of gambling but we should never allow fatal gambling.

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August 31, 2023, 10:57:41 AM
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I haven't heard of any places you've mentioned where this game cockfighting is legal or played. Mostly I've seen this in India or Pakistan where they locally bet in villages on such cocks labelling them before the fight and then the one who wins, remains alive and the cock that loses gets cooked. I don't think this game will ever be seen on a casino to bet on. I've also seen some animal fights like forcefully sending a cow to fight a bull, then there are dog fights, and whatnot. I don't think any such games are either allowed by govs or available on any casino as it spreads too much negativity, stress, feeling of fear which becomes unbearable when we see our loving animal not just losing but also being beaten by the very same animal which shows that our mentality speaks for itself and that we are no more humans but turned into animals ourselves.

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But I hope that the general direction of the development of civilization will still follow the path of combating various types of manifestations of cruelty.  In cockfights, such cruelty clearly takes place.  And it is especially dangerous for children and teenagers to watch such fights.  Therefore, I hope that various activists in the field of the fight against cruelty to animals and in general the protection of animals will increasingly act on public
Where I live, there are special regulations regarding cockfighting activities carried out by some people and stipulate that cockfighting is an illegal activity.
However, this cannot stop cockfighting activities carried out by the community. This is because cockfighting is an activity that has been around for a long time and has been preserved from generation to generation until it becomes embedded and entrenched so that cockfighting cannot be separated from people's lives.
Because this has been passed down from generation to generation, it is not uncommon for some parents to teach their children about cockfighting. And that teaching is what we have to break with.
People used to using cockfights for gambling will continue their tradition, especially if it relates to their ancestral traditions in a ceremony. It may only be eliminated if there is discussion or discussion among the local customary leaders. The government also cannot enforce the ban because it is a tradition that these people want to preserve. But outside of these ceremonies, the government can prohibit cockfighting because it is unlawful. But in the future, this cockfighting will be stopped by the government because anyone, including children, can watch this spectacle, which may become an event for these children.
It is indeed quite complicated, but I am sure that slowly this problem will be resolved, as long as law enforcement officials are able to approach the community and conduct continuous direct hearings, because so far the government has established a law only carried out unilaterally without any agreement between the government and the community.

There is no shortage of people watching this game. In short, it can be a popular game. But if the fight is made where the rooster gets hurt, how do you fell that? If you can make sure no rooster gets hurt then I guess this game is not bad. This has been identified in disallowing this game today. Some feel that animals are being treated unfairly if such sports are encouraged. There are other forms of gambling but we should never allow fatal gambling.
Yes.. However, over time, cockfighting underwent several changes that made this fight even crueler, causing some people to oppose it. Which is where cockfighting at this time uses a sharp weapon that is applied to the chicken which can cause one of the losing chickens to die horribly.

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