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Restart Electrum and check if the transaction's status changed from "unconfirmed" into "Local"; if not, select another server.
This should work. But I just created a watch-only wallet using OP's address on electrum and tried several servers. All of them still had OP's transaction in their mempool. Does this has anything to do with Electrum mobile wallet maybe to know if those missing option can found over there then I can proceed with it.
As already said, enabling/disabling RBF on electrum wouldn't change anything. The RBF should be enabled when you make the transaction.
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Does this has anything to do with Electrum mobile wallet maybe to know if those missing option can found over there then I can proceed with it. Actually a bit hurry to settle out some part of my loan tomorrow.. If possible please give me guideline as I have already downloaded the Electrum mobile wallet... But has not imported my wallet address over there.
I was only referring to Bluewallet and somehow off-topic to this thread discussion. Follow what nc50lc posted. I can see the purging at 5.04 sat/vbyte. You should be able to rebroadcast your transaction on desktop Electrum. If you are unable to do that, you can wait until most nodes drop the transaction from their mempool.
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August 20, 2023, 01:16:31 PM |
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Restart Electrum and check if the transaction's status changed from "unconfirmed" into "Local"; if not, select another server.
This should work. But I just created a watch-only wallet using OP's address on electrum and tried several servers. All of them still had OP's transactions in their mempool. Does this has anything to do with Electrum mobile wallet maybe to know if those missing option can found over there then I can proceed with it.
As already said, enabling/disabling RBF on electrum wouldn't change anything. The RBF should be enabled when you make the transaction. I understand now.. Thank you for your guide.. Does this has anything to do with Electrum mobile wallet maybe to know if those missing option can found over there then I can proceed with it. Actually a bit hurry to settle out some part of my loan tomorrow.. If possible please give me guideline as I have already downloaded the Electrum mobile wallet... But has not imported my wallet address over there.
I am only referring to Bluewallet and somehow off-topic to this thread discussion. Follow what nc50lc posted. I can see the purging at 5.04. You should be able to rebroadcast your transaction on Electrom desktop. Okay.. I really want to appreciate all your support, I know I am not good in all this wallet configuration but with time I hope to understand it more better. Thank you all
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nc50lc
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August 20, 2023, 01:34:22 PM |
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Restart Electrum and check if the transaction's status changed from "unconfirmed" into "Local"; if not, select another server.
This should work. But I just created a watch-only wallet using OP's address on electrum and tried several servers. All of them still had OP's transaction in their mempool. Yes, it's rebroadcasted/propagated since mempools just got lower in size. That's why he should be at least active to check the purging size so he can have a chance to replace the transaction. @ SmartGold01 be sure to send a replacement with high fee rate right after removing the transaction after it turned " Local". You have no other option aside from what I've posted in page1.
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August 20, 2023, 01:39:28 PM |
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I experience this same issue on my bluewallet after I imported my private key of an address that doesn't support RBF.
It's not the address that should support RBF. Regardless of what address you are using, you can enable/disable RBF for your transaction. I encounter an issue before when I import the private key of my specific address coming from my electrum wallet to Bluewallet. I send the transaction using Bluewallet but RBF feature is not available. My old thread is here https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5462258.msg62655765#msg62655765This is why I said the address instead of the private keys of my specific address. I think this is same case with the OP since he use Trustwallet that doesn’t support RBF and import it to Bluewallet. Anyway, I’m no expert on this. Correct me pls.
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August 20, 2023, 02:00:05 PM Last edit: August 20, 2023, 02:10:45 PM by hosseinimr93 |
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Yes, it's rebroadcasted/propagated since mempools just got lower in size.
nc50lc, do nodes rebroadcast transactions periodically? Let's say I have broadcasted a transaction with the fee rate of 5 sat/vbyte. The network becomes congested and nodes that are using default setting, purge any transaction with the fee rata of less than 6 sat/vbyte from their mempool. Now, some nodes still have my transaction in their mempool, but the majority have dropped my transaction. If the network becomes less congested, will the nodes that dropped my transaction receive it again? I think that's done, only if someone rebroadcast my transaction. I don't think the transaction that is dropped from a mempool comes back to the mempool, once the purging fee rate becomes less than the fee rate of my transaction. Correct me if I am wrong, please. I encounter an issue before when I import the private key of my specific address coming from my electrum wallet to Bluewallet. I send the transaction using Bluewallet but RBF feature is not available.
That's how bluewallet works. Bluewallet allows you to bump the fee only if the original transaction has been made by itself. Generally, if a transaction has been flagged as RBF, you should be able to replace it with a new one paying higher fee. It may worth mentioning that in the case a node has enabled "Full RBF", it would accept replacing transactions, even if the original transaction hasn't been flagged as RBF.
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nc50lc, do nodes rebroadcast transactions periodically?
Periodically, maybe some clients. Nodes? AFAIK, Bitcoin Core is known to rebroadcast wallet transactions and the contents of mempool.dat during startup, but I'm not sure if it does periodically. Anyways, as what I've observed, OP's transaction was once missing from some mempools ( e.g.: missing in blockchain.com blockexplorer) and just became available automatically hours later. And I've seen some unconfirmed Electrum transactions that became " Local" once it gets dropped from the selected server's mempool.
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Anyways, as what I've observed, OP's transaction was once missing from some mempools (e.g.: missing in blockchain.com blockexplorer) and just became available automatically hours later.
Well, the transaction is showing in Blockchair. https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/transaction/d5f80b303486f616dc02df5413520b43543b725246161c520816e51aa1f4ebf3And I checked the sender's BTC address and the balance still shows 0 also the purging dropped down to 4sat/vbyte so most likely the transaction will stay unconfirmed until 14 days period unless the mempool congested with Txs with higher fees.
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Your transaction is still about 30 vMB from the top, so you still have to be patient. Unfortunately, there is nothing else you can do. RBF isn't an option, you don't control the keys of the destination address, and there was no change that went back to one of your other addresses that you could take advantage of to perform a CPFP. If there was some change, a Child Pays For Parent transaction with higher fees could be used to boost the overall fee rate of both transactions.
Your best hope now is that the congestion drops of just enough to get your transaction confirmed. Alternatively, you'll have to keep an eye on the purging rate as nc50lc mentioned to cancel the transaction if Electrum and the chosen server allows it.
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Your transaction is still about 30 vMB from the top, so you still have to be patient. Unfortunately, there is nothing else you can do. RBF isn't an option, you don't control the keys of the destination address, and there was no change that went back to one of your other addresses that you could take advantage of to perform a CPFP. If there was some change, a Child Pays For Parent transaction with higher fees could be used to boost the overall fee rate of both transactions.
Your best hope now is that the congestion drops of just enough to get your transaction confirmed. Alternatively, you'll have to keep an eye on the purging rate as nc50lc mentioned to cancel the transaction if Electrum and the chosen server allows it.
Okay thank you sir.. Seems my transactions was reversed since it didn't confirm for that past 12 days thereabouts.. I viewed my wallet this morning and I noticed my balance is back with the previous amount I sent out since on 14 August. I was so much bothered about this delay. Also I want to use this moment to thank everyone who replied me on this issues as it was something very stressful and with the kind of person I am, I was so much worry concerning the unconfirmed transaction for past 13 days though I was actually thinking my fund is lost due to my inexperienced within how the network are being operated. But believe me I have learnt a lesson and this time if transferring I would use Electrum instead of Trustwallet.
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Seems my transactions was reversed since it didn't confirm for that past 12 days thereabouts.. I viewed my wallet this morning and I noticed my balance is back with the previous amount I sent out since on 14 August. That's good to know. But just for the record, where did you notice the change in balance? Actually, the coins being returned to your previous address? In Electrum or Trust Wallet? If the balance is back to normal, Electrum shouldn't have records of local transactions in your wallet. But just to be 100% sure, you could check that.
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Seems my transactions was reversed since it didn't confirm for that past 12 days thereabouts..
I take that it " reversed" in your Trust wallet, right? The current default mempool size exceeds the size which transactions with 5sat/vB and below got dropped, yours included. But some nodes still have it, so it might propagate again when the default purging fee rate lowers again. This is the right time that I'm talking about in my post. You may need to spend it right now.
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Seems my transactions was reversed since it didn't confirm for that past 12 days thereabouts.. I viewed my wallet this morning and I noticed my balance is back with the previous amount I sent out since on 14 August.
That's good to know. But just for the record, where did you notice the change in balance? Actually, the coins being returned to your previous address? In Electrum or Trust Wallet? If the balance is back to normal, Electrum shouldn't have records of local transactions in your wallet. But just to be 100% sure, you could check that. I viewed it from my Trustwallet the balance is back and I couldn't find the txt id anymore from Trustwallet.. That is to say; the 0.002125BTC I sent from my Trustwallet to Binance has been reversed back to my Trustwallet. Seems my transactions was reversed since it didn't confirm for that past 12 days thereabouts..
I take that it " reversed" in your Trust wallet, right? The current default mempool size exceeds the size which transactions with 5sat/vB and below got dropped, yours included. But some nodes still have it, so it might propagate again when the default purging fee rate lowers again. This is the right time that I'm talking about in my post. You may need to spend it right now. Checking from Electrum wallet it's still showing pending (unconfirmed) and my balance still remains zero viewing my wallet from electrum wallet. This means since is showing unconfirmed on Electrum I have to make retransfer with trustwallet maybe I would increase the fee to be able to confirm as quickly as possible. .. Edit here balance: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qv5ewv4z2q62lkyxcszkw43kp3842xyup92mwh2So I have initiated another transfer currently.
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Checking from Electrum wallet it's still showing pending (unconfirmed) and my balance still remains zero viewing my wallet from electrum wallet. The node (server) you are connected to still has your old transaction it its mempool. Try to manually switch through some of the other servers in the settings > network options. Maybe you will find one that has dropped it and moved it to a local transaction that you can then cancel. If done successfully, you could then create and broadcast a transaction paying more fees. This means since is showing unconfirmed on Electrum I have to make retransfer with trustwallet maybe I would increase the fee to be able to confirm as quickly as possible. Trust Wallet created the issues in the first place because the transaction was sent without the RBF feature. If you want to try again with Trust Wallet, I would suggest the high priority fees according to Mempool.space or even one digit above.
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Checking from Electrum wallet it's still showing pending (unconfirmed) and my balance still remains zero viewing my wallet from electrum wallet. This means since is showing unconfirmed on Electrum I have to make retransfer with trustwallet maybe I would increase the fee to be able to confirm as quickly as possible. .. Edit here balance: https://blockchair.com/bitcoin/address/bc1qv5ewv4z2q62lkyxcszkw43kp3842xyup92mwh2So I have initiated another transfer currently. Since it's still unconfirmed in Electrum, the chosen server still has it in their mempool, you can't remove it and send another that spends the same input while it's like that. As we speak, the purging fee rate recovered below 5sat/vB, but it wont stay like that. I can't see any new unconfirmed transaction in the link in the Edit. Have you sent using Trustwallet? If so, your transaction may have been rejected by majority of the nodes for being a replacement of a non-rbf txn, since it didn't propagate. It'll only be accepted by nodes with full-rbf option enabled, but it's currently the minority. -edit-As expected, your old 5sat/vB transaction reappeared in that link.
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August 27, 2023, 08:46:48 AM Last edit: August 27, 2023, 09:09:12 AM by SmartGold01 |
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Checking from Electrum wallet it's still showing pending (unconfirmed) and my balance still remains zero viewing my wallet from electrum wallet. The node (server) you are connected to still has your old transaction it its mempool. Try to manually switch through some of the other servers in the settings > network options. Maybe you will find one that has dropped it and moved it to a local transaction that you can then cancel. If done successfully, you could then create and broadcast a transaction paying more fees. I have tried to change it but I couldn't find that option you mentioned from end here, I am using the updated version.. Electrum 4.4.5 This means since is showing unconfirmed on Electrum I have to make retransfer with trustwallet maybe I would increase the fee to be able to confirm as quickly as possible. Trust Wallet created the issues in the first place because the transaction was sent without the RBF feature. If you want to try again with Trust Wallet, I would suggest the high priority fees according to Mempool.space or even one digit above. Yeah, I do increased my network Fee (Sats/byte) to 19, meanwhile the previous transaction that took days was 5 Sats/byte. I believe this is at a very higher probability to get confirmed on time right? Still used same trustwallet for the transfer since I couldn't locate the option given to me.. Edit.. -edit- As expected, your old 5sat/vB transaction reappeared in that link.
Yeah I just noticed it after haven to check back again, and I don't really know what is happening.. I made transfer from trust again with about 19 sats/byte as fee, but has not generated transaction txt, wait.. does it mean the appearance of the old transaction was the reason I couldn't have the txt for the recent transfer I made?
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This is getting confusing so please bear with me 1) on the 14th you sent this one https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/d5f80b303486f616dc02df5413520b43543b725246161c520816e51aa1f4ebf35sat/b that never confirmed andis not RBF 2) on the 21st you sent this one: https://www.blockchain.com/explorer/transactions/btc/93404d7099a55089413c5ca68a69e2d5bf02c23e9680216761bbaff2e284b75asame funding address, same receiving address, you paid 20.1 sat/vB and enabled RBF 3) did you try to send another tx to replace the first one or is it just a plan and you have never been able to as your balance is still zero? What ID does this one have? As we speak, the purging fee rate recovered below 5sat/vB, but it wont stay like that.
That's only for default nodes, mine for example has that set to twice as much, and even during the spam wave it was kicking out only below 2 sat/b, every major not hobby or personal node will still keep his tx for a while that's why it' still alive even now.
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August 27, 2023, 09:55:58 AM |
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As we speak, the purging fee rate recovered below 5sat/vB, but it wont stay like that.
That's only for default nodes, mine for example has that set to twice as much, and even during the spam wave it was kicking out only below 2 sat/b, every major not hobby or personal node will still keep his tx for a while that's why it' still alive even now. Yes, that's what I've been pointing out in my other replies here, the previous one before that quote for example. In that particular post, I'm talking about mempool.space's " purging fee rate" which is based from the default that I suggested OP to monitor. -edit- As expected, your old 5sat/vB transaction reappeared in that link.
Yeah I just noticed it after haven to check back again, and I don't really know what is happening.. I made transfer from trust again with about 19 sats/byte as fee, but has not generated transaction txt, wait.. does it mean the appearance of the old transaction was the reason I couldn't have the txt for the recent transfer I made? Like I've said, it didn't propagated since it's still in the mempools of most nodes due to it being rebroadcasted to them since its fee rate made it through their minimum. If you were about a few hours earlier when it's dropped from the majority, you could've sent one that should be mined within the next block.
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August 27, 2023, 12:09:41 PM |
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I believe this is at a very higher probability to get confirmed on time right? It would have been if the nodes accepted it and propagated it, but that's not the case. I see no signs of a new transaction on Mempool.space for that address you mentioned. The last one remains the 5.03 sat/vByte you attempted to send 2 weeks ago. Besides, the purging rate according to Mempool.space is currently 4.01 sat/vByte. Since you are paying 5.03, I doubt you will find an Electrum node that has dropped your transaction and allows you to cancel it in the app as a local transaction. I think your best bet is to wait for the new business week to start and hope that the purging rate goes above your 5.03 sat/vByte soon. After that, listen to nc50lc's advice and look for an Electrum server that allows you to cancel the old transaction. After that, broadcast a new one paying higher fees.
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August 27, 2023, 04:16:21 PM Last edit: August 27, 2023, 04:29:41 PM by hosseinimr93 |
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I just checked the transaction in some block explorers. mempool.space and blockchain.com have received the transaction around 2 weeks ago. blockchair.com and blockcypher.com have last seen the transaction around 7 hours ago. I am not sure, maybe trustwallet rebroadcasts unconfirmed transactions automatically. SmartGold01, if trustwallet does so, your transaction will stay in the mempool of nodes, until the network becomes less congested and miners include transaction paying 5 sat/vbyte. This will probably take a very long time. I recommend you to delete your wallet from trustwallet and only use electrum or at least don't open trustwallet. As already said, most nodes drop transactions from their mempool 14 days after they receive it and after that you will be able to make a new transaction. This won't happen if your transaction is rebroadcasted again and again. Before deleting your wallet from trustwallet, make sure you have backed up the seed phrase and you can recover the wallet.
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