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August 20, 2023, 05:53:05 PM
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i have opened a topic here in the past year asking if i could recover my missing wif characters

https://bitcointalk.org/index.php?topic=5407589.0

Since i was trying to recover my 21 Wif missing character over the past few years with No Luck i was so disappointed , yes i know that 21 characters is too much , too much bits missing to be bruteforced  .

i have a question but due my lack of knowledge i need some help .


could i use my exact device entropy details that was used to generate the private key through bitcoin core in 2011 or 2012


i have my exact old computer specs and the exact ram memory that was used and other important info .

if this possible i want a python code or something using this entropy details i could try to hope to find a collision to my address or the change addresses in my wallet at that time .


any help will be appreciated too much   Smiley

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August 20, 2023, 06:03:16 PM
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No, even if you have the same specs as your old specs when you generated this WIF key it's still impossible to recover the missing 21 characters it would take decades to brute force these missing characters.

I think you were thinking that you can generate the same WIF key by having the same entropy that is impossible never heard someone succeed in doing this even me I tried that thing past year's ago without success, I just want to recover my old private key due to backup corruption but no it doesn't work.

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August 20, 2023, 06:40:00 PM
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What do you mean you have the device entropy details?

When generating a private key, your computer collects entropy from various sources. Mouse movements, network activity, thermal noise etc. You can't just redo the process and expect to get the same entropy, because the entropy is dependent on beyond RAM and probably other hardware info. In fact, I think that preventing the recovery of an entropy is what the Cryptographically Secure Random Number Generator is trying to accomplish in the first place, for if it wasn't, other programs could work out your private keys.

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August 20, 2023, 06:40:52 PM
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Can you share the public key and then the characters of your WIF which you have?

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could i use my exact device entropy details that was used to generate the private key through bitcoin core in 2011 or 2012
Are you asking if you can use the same derivation path?

Can you share the public key and then the characters of your WIF which you have?
DO NOT share such information with anyone here or in your personal message.

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Can you share the public key and then the characters of your WIF which you have?
DO NOT share such information with anyone here or in your personal message.

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Are you talking to me or advising others against me? Lol, even if OP shared both public key and the remaining of the WIF  characters, nobody could solve the key in a few thousand  years, a 256 bit private key is not something we could simply brute force.

I don't know if there is a public key, but this seems more like a sold wallet case where the buyer thinks he can get help from here to find his fortune.  No public key/ address, means there is something wrong with this case.

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Are you talking to me or advising others against me? Lol, even if OP shared both public key and the remaining of the WIF  characters, nobody could solve the key in a few thousand  years, a 256 bit private key is not something we could simply brute force.



THIS IS NOT TRUE! if on btc address are spent transactions , and you have remaining of the WIF  characters, you can solve very quickly.
I have tested:) I can help
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Are you talking to me or advising others against me? Lol, even if OP shared both public key and the remaining of the WIF  characters, nobody could solve the key in a few thousand  years, a 256 bit private key is not something we could simply brute force.



THIS IS NOT TRUE! if on btc address are spent transactions , and you have remaining of the WIF  characters, you can solve very quickly.
I have tested:) I can help
Yeah, so you have tested it, with how many missing characters exactly? Was it 21 or 19 missing? THIS IS TRUE, you can't solve such a key "very quickly". I'd love to see how you can help! show us the magic.

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any help will be appreciated too much   Smiley


Could you give us the public address of your wallet?
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Yeah, so you have tested it, with how many missing characters exactly? Was it 21 or 19 missing? THIS IS TRUE, you can't solve such a key "very quickly". I'd love to see how you can help! show us the magic.
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digaran it is not magic , real normal math with implement some kinds additional operation on curve. it is not magic, there is no magic stuff. I will explain little more with recentering and partial integer signatures with LLL

nothing more. There is no magic there are only relations.


to OP: please show the public key and the wif
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could i use my exact device entropy details that was used to generate the private key through bitcoin core in 2011 or 2012
No. The entropy your device generates should not be deterministic for you to reproduce it if you could find some "specs" otherwise it would not be safe to begin with.

THIS IS NOT TRUE! if on btc address are spent transactions , and you have remaining of the WIF  characters, you can solve very quickly.
I have tested:) I can help
Then why aren't you "quickly" solving the famous puzzle to claim the reward? The search space for the key there is smaller than the search space OP has.

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Can you share the public key and then the characters of your WIF which you have?
DO NOT share such information with anyone here or in your personal message.

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Are you talking to me or advising others against me? Lol, even if OP shared both public key and the remaining of the WIF  characters, nobody could solve the key in a few thousand  years, a 256 bit private key is not something we could simply brute force.

I don't know if there is a public key, but this seems more like a sold wallet case where the buyer thinks he can get help from here to find his fortune.  No public key/ address, means there is something wrong with this case.

Because, it is not guaranteed that such information will be safe from future kind of attacks, for example, we all know that quantum computers will be able to defeat ECDSA and use the transactions of public keys to get the private key back without even using any WIF characters, so why make the OP take an unnecessary (even if its theoretically unpractical) risk?

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Then why aren't you "quickly" solving the famous puzzle to claim the reward? The search space for the key there is smaller than the search space OP has.
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Becouse I can't : I do not know the partial WIF , if you know please share, and seconds there is only one output.

This is why I can't solve  the famous puzzle. if you know math you should known that.



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you wrote: we all know that quantum computers will be able to defeat ECDSA, NO! , it is impossible. maybe in next thousend year.
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Becouse I can't : I do not know the partial WIF , if you know please share, and seconds there is only one output.

This is why I can't solve  the famous puzzle. if you know math you should known that.
The principle is the same, there is a private key in a certain key range that we only know the corresponding address or public key. Whether it is a WIF missing characters or a puzzle with a key intentionally created in a certain range. The methods used for finding that key is the same too.

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Becouse I can't : I do not know the partial WIF , if you know please share, and seconds there is only one output.

This is why I can't solve  the famous puzzle. if you know math you should known that.
The principle is the same, there is a private key in a certain key range that we only know the corresponding address or public key. Whether it is a WIF missing characters or a puzzle with a key intentionally created in a certain range. The methods used for finding that key is the same too.


No it is not the same. as I see you have  no knowledge about this. topic close.
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Because, it is not guaranteed that such information will be safe from future kind of attacks, for example, we all know that quantum computers will be able to defeat ECDSA and use the transactions of public keys to get the private key back without even using any WIF characters, so why make the OP take an unnecessary (even if its theoretically unpractical) risk?

How do you "know" about QC? Did you try understanding all the formulas? I did look into it, and now I really know that quantum computers are destined to utter failure.

Quantum computing is a scam. It will never be able to do anything meaningful, besides generating noise.

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Quantum computing is a scam.
Could you provide some more context? There appear to be serious development in quantum computing and quantum cryptography as far as my experience goes.

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@j2002ba2  has right. the QC wil not be used for "cracking" curve.

Any one who has minimal knowledge about "typing programing" of QC , knows that QC cannot be implement for decrypt anything.
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Becouse I can't : I do not know the partial WIF , if you know please share, and seconds there is only one output.

This is why I can't solve  the famous puzzle.
You mean the unsolved puzzle output's "Public Key" right? not partial WIF.
Because otherwise this wont make any sense.

And BTW, specific puzzle output's partial WIF should be similar to the closest solved outputs' WIF since they're all encoded starting from bunch of zeroes.
Like #66's partial WIF, which should be: KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3.......
Based from:
  • #65: KwDiBf89QgGbjEhKnhXJuH7LrciVrZi3qZM21gaY8WN2CdwnTG57
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August 22, 2023, 09:02:07 PM
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and seconds there is only one output.
So if the puzzle creator were to spend a few satoshis from puzzle 130, you could solve the key by having the second transaction output + the existing partial WIF/key? Can you explain how do you find leakage of private key from second outputs?

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