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August 22, 2023, 07:44:51 PM
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There are many casino sites that offer KYC free gambling and allow you to deposit and withdraw up to certain amount without any Kyc verification. so in this case you will not have any problem even if you do KYC later. But when you go to gamble with a big amount you definitely need KYC verification.  But it is better for everyone to play gambling without any kyc with a small amount on a site first and gain experience of that site.  Then if any site seems good and trustworthy then complete kyc then gamble with big amount.  It can be a good strategy to research gambling sites

The problem is that the casino that doesn't requet for KYC will have limit to the kind of games and bets you will play. You can see a casino that doesn't and will never ask you for KYC but they are very strick to the point of kicking you out on suspecting anything, they wouldn't think a second time they don't find you friendly to the casino and they could Limit players that are from particular regions due to regulations and licensed problems.

As for me, my advice is if you must use casino that doesn't request for KYC, please make sure you check their reviews and others experience if it will worth it trying it out and make sure that the game you will like to gamble is a popular one to avoid searching for free KYC casino that you may never see again.

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August 22, 2023, 07:56:12 PM
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That could be the case for some, but in my opinion such things are deeply exploitative. People should have the freedom to pass KYC whenever they want. Doesn't matter if it's after winning a large amount of money or not in my opinion. Same with Stake for example. Though allegations and isolated cases come around every now and again, generally they have been very particular and accepting of KYC. You can undergo KYC on or before making a bet, and once you passed it they won't give you any trouble.

It all boils down to whether the casino that you played in is reputable or not. Some casinos are just general assholes that is in it for the money and not for the service of entertainment. Some are not fucked in the head and delivers what's in the tin.

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August 22, 2023, 08:10:24 PM
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I have read up on some issues that do arise from not being able to withdraw or cash out winnings from online casinos due to negligence on the part of the player.
Then they come here to start finding solutions on how to cash out their rewards whereas, they failed to adhere to the terms and conditions of which must include a KYC verification for sure usage.

Anyone player who still avoids KYC currently is either new to the system, or is doing so out of curiosity, but not with real intentions of benefitting from the platform on which they registered.

It is definitely a bad idea to pass KYC verification onto later.

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August 22, 2023, 08:22:30 PM
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I have read up on some issues that do arise from not being able to withdraw or cash out winnings from online casinos due to negligence on the part of the player.
Then they come here to start finding solutions on how to cash out their rewards whereas, they failed to adhere to the terms and conditions of which must include a KYC verification for sure usage.

Anyone player who still avoids KYC currently is either new to the system, or is doing so out of curiosity, but not with real intentions of benefitting from the platform on which they registered.

It is definitely a bad idea to pass KYC verification onto later.
It's not necessarily about avoiding KYC altogether, it's postponing such because they either think it's too tedious of a work, or simply something that they can just delay for when they have to withdraw. In my opinion the problem does not lie to the user doing so, after all unless explicitly stated that you'd need to undergo KYC right then and there from the creation of your account, you're not and you shouldn't be forced to perform verification until you feel the need to do so.

Problem is some casinos that you just can't trust are using these KYC measures to either delay users from their money, or literally just block them from getting it. I've heard of news where accounts are banned after following KYC, all because they wanted to withdraw. This is exploitative and is no way something that you can fault to the user.

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August 22, 2023, 08:34:57 PM
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I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

This is good advice, at least with any of the more legitimate crypto casinos that you'll find here. Legislation is changing all the time, in different countries all over the world, so you don't want to wake up and find out your whole gambling history has been exposed or your wallet has been seized because you tried to hide behind anonymity. There are genuine companies behind these sites and they are increasingly based in Europe or America, which means that they will be subject to all kinds of financial auditing and they are not going to risk jail time or large fines, if it means protecting a handful of people who don't want to share identities. It actually makes them more likely to offer bonuses and promotions as well, because they know there is less chance of "fake" accounts milking them.

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August 22, 2023, 08:40:09 PM
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If you trust the casino and you're a big bettor and you think that you could win a big amount of money and you don't want issues when you want to withdraw huge money then go ahead if there's an option to verify your account, once you sign up in a licensed casino you should expect KYC, you should expect unexpected winning, but this does not mean that you will not encounter issues with your account, even if you did a KYC they can still ask you for additional documents.

There's no such thing as safe marking in a casino, if there's an issue in your account and their security triggers an alarm you still have to prove your innocence or ask you to do another verification.
If you're going to face all of this it's better to face this issue where you will have a fair chance and that is in a reputable casino.
At some point you’re right. Casinos will never stop asking for another KYC verification unless they become satisfied with your identification details. Most especially if you have big unexpected wins, then always expect that the casino will keep an eye on you. Although I could say that asking for KYC is a must protocol for casinos these days, but sometimes we can’t help thinking that casinos would never want us winning, otherwise we will be requested again and again to submit another identification document and it’s certainly become a hassle for us.

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August 22, 2023, 08:40:31 PM
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Exactly!! The KYCs aren't just always getting fucked up cus anyone's got a huge winnings or deposits; it's usually so disheartening to bear the whole frustration, as a result of NOT providing these identifiable certs on time.
I don't know if the system is usually programed to freeze up funds that bypassed the KYCs or maybe it's usually an emergency lockup until proper verifications are made? ... just my thoughts.
Well, since this processes aren't even verified in a hurry - maybe they prioritize looking up the source to which the funds are released from and so on - then it's safe to say that most casinos don't really try to pull off a stunt with Thier customer's money.

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August 22, 2023, 08:45:32 PM
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I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I don't honestly know why someone would even bet on a site that requires kyc and they know they can't pass it.  As soon as you send your money onto the site it's trapped forever.  The worst part actually is if you win.  Be easy if you lose to just go away but imagine winning huge and then not being able to pull the money off?  That would be a nightmare.

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August 22, 2023, 08:46:26 PM
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If you trust the casino and you're a big bettor and you think that you could win a big amount of money and you don't want issues when you want to withdraw huge money then go ahead if there's an option to verify your account, once you sign up in a licensed casino you should expect KYC, you should expect unexpected winning, but this does not mean that you will not encounter issues with your account, even if you did a KYC they can still ask you for additional documents.

There's no such thing as safe marking in a casino, if there's an issue in your account and their security triggers an alarm you still have to prove your innocence or ask you to do another verification.
If you're going to face all of this it's better to face this issue where you will have a fair chance and that is in a reputable casino.
At some point you’re right. Casinos will never stop asking for another KYC verification unless they become satisfied with your identification details. Most especially if you have big unexpected wins, then always expect that the casino will keep an eye on you. Although I could say that asking for KYC is a must protocol for casinos these days, but sometimes we can’t help thinking that casinos would never want us winning, otherwise we will be requested again and again to submit another identification document and it’s certainly become a hassle for us.
If we are really trying out to go back and check on how fiat based or traditional fiat gambling sites been operating then you would definitely be making use of your own bank account or credit card which it already exposes up

your identity and on the time that Bitcoin/Crypto gambling sites exist then interest is really that high due to being anonymous which we cant really be able to say that there's really that a demand on which it is really that
something that shows up that interest is really there because they can play gambling anonymously but as expected on which government doesnt really like on getting behind and this is why they would really be tending to
regulate each one of those platforms and this is why we do have that kind of licensing and we know that people do always have a good impression into things which are been considered to be legit on the time that you
do find yourself that you are licensed.

Totally opposing that anonymity which we do prefer but this had been that a very common impression or something that people do really look upon. Somewhat on the points given out by OP
is really that valid but we know that crypto enthusiast type of gambler would be directly be avoiding on the time that they do saw on having that initial asking out of those documents or information.

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August 22, 2023, 10:12:36 PM
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If you trust the casino and you're a big bettor and you think that you could win a big amount of money and you don't want issues when you want to withdraw huge money then go ahead if there's an option to verify your account, once you sign up in a licensed casino you should expect KYC, you should expect unexpected winning, but this does not mean that you will not encounter issues with your account, even if you did a KYC they can still ask you for additional documents.

There's no such thing as safe marking in a casino, if there's an issue in your account and their security triggers an alarm you still have to prove your innocence or ask you to do another verification.
If you're going to face all of this it's better to face this issue where you will have a fair chance and that is in a reputable casino.
At some point you’re right. Casinos will never stop asking for another KYC verification unless they become satisfied with your identification details. Most especially if you have big unexpected wins, then always expect that the casino will keep an eye on you. Although I could say that asking for KYC is a must protocol for casinos these days, but sometimes we can’t help thinking that casinos would never want us winning, otherwise we will be requested again and again to submit another identification document and it’s certainly become a hassle for us.

Some may use that Kyc just to delay things and find a hole so thay they can't pay their user which win a huge amount of money with the that's the reason why we always sign up with correct details so that once they ask this we always have supporting documents that can verify our identity. KYC is indeed a protocol now so we shouldn't use any random names so that we can pass on anything that they need from us.

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August 22, 2023, 10:16:58 PM
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good for you if you trust that the casino will properly secure your personal information, but as for me, I love gambling as anonymously as possible, sure there is that issue that you mentioned, but for me, it is worth it, and I don't really expect to win huge amount of money. anyway, I have been gambling(on, off and casually) for a while now and so far I haven't been asked to perform KYC.

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August 23, 2023, 12:00:36 AM
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unfortunately these cases are quite difficult, because they start from the casinos themselves who say that they only ask for kyc in cases of suspicious activities but do not talk about the details of what they consider suspicious activities and even when they accuse the customer of having broken the tos they do not show proof After these accusations, it looks like some casinos are using toss as a weapon to confiscate customers' money, this is something very visible because there are many cases of this type, it makes no sense for a casino to allow a person to deposit a lot of money in the casino and the casino doesn't ask for kyc and if that person loses all the money then the casino won't claim anything

but if that person wins a lot of money then the casino will ask for kyc for that person and the worst part is that the casino will not approve the documents at any time, they will use arguments that the document is not visible or it is false, all this to not pay the customer, I have already read many casinos of this type in the scam accusation section. it is true that it is better for people to do kyc before depositing money in the casino, at least they will be careful

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Good ideas from OP after many problem faced by gambler with huge amount withdrawing, required or not with KYC on some gambling platform better submit all ID document needed before deposit fund and active play on some gambling platform. After KYC have been approving start gambling and there are not any way for stopping your withdrawing due account not KYC yet. Many problem faced by gambler with their account hold on after trying withdraw huge fund, some gambling platform required for KYC if want withdraw huge amount but not required for first time when creating account and not mention yet in term of service gambling platform rule.

What ever kinds of casino playing, don't deposit early before success approving KYC if won't bad thing happen later from withdrawing process until how difficult account secure after huge amount winning.

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I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.
Many gamblers are still not comfortable giving their documents to online casino because of the possibility of passing it to the wrong hands or if there's a data breach. So it's understandable why some of us prefer to try our luck first before verifying our identity when necessary. Though, it would be wise to do it beforehand so you can play without worries especially if ever you win huge.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.
This is really frustrating. If your documents are valid and acceptable, there's no reason to not accept unless you gamble on a shady casino, a scam that won't pay their players. Because if the casino is reputable they won't do such thing just to hold the winnings of their gamblers since it can tarnish their reputation for not being fair and be tagged as scam.

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August 23, 2023, 06:28:44 AM
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I agree with you here. Don't do it when you already won, do it while you are still on a small balance.
But this is for those who are expecting thousands of dollars of wins, I think I am not in that bracket although I still passed my KYC just to be sure. A reputable online casino would not leak anything or else it will be their doomsday, that's my perspective if they want to keep their business running for a long time. Considering how big online gambling is today, they don't want to just lose the thing that gives them profit in large amounts.
The competition is also growing so I guess keeping it secured, fewer scam accusations, and fewer problems, will be things that could strengthen them. KYC is a must for whale bettors, do it now to avoid regretting it later.

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August 23, 2023, 06:55:19 AM
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These KYC related tasks should be completed before gambling. There are many gamblers who could not get KYC approved after depositing money into their account through gambling. As a result they failed to withdraw their money. So after recognizing the fact why a gambler would take the risk? Moreover, if a gambler is faced with such a situation, he cannot do anything legally. Earning money from gambling is very difficult for a gambler but if that money fails to withdraw due to KYC issue It hurts more than losing in gambling.

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August 23, 2023, 07:06:11 AM
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These KYC related tasks should be completed before gambling. There are many gamblers who could not get KYC approved after depositing money into their account through gambling. As a result they failed to withdraw their money. So after recognizing the fact why a gambler would take the risk? Moreover, if a gambler is faced with such a situation, he cannot do anything legally. Earning money from gambling is very difficult for a gambler but if that money fails to withdraw due to KYC issue It hurts more than losing in gambling.
It's not all of people are willing to do that. Even some people valued their identity more than everything. Just try to stick into the gambling site that allows you to play without KYC although you will be getting a small limit. This will far better rather than verifying your KYC first.
I didn't like to verify that first before trying to make sure the website is safe to keep my identity. It's not all of website can be trusted. I think that most of trusted sites were not making KYC as obligation for the new users.
The new users need to verify their KYC if they are betting with significant amounts of money. I can't deny that some sites may use KYC to abuse its users.
It's hard to know what thing that can be trusted. The only sense thing to play only in the trusted and reputable site. It will be enough to make sure our money and identity gonna be safe.

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August 23, 2023, 07:15:45 AM
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There are some casinos out there that have a complex KYC process....

I saw examples where people cleared the Level 1 and 2 and they thought that was enough, but the moment when they won something big and they wanted to withdraw it, then the casino force them to KYC to a higher level.

This is where the stalling tactics starts, with the casinos not validating the documents for months or sometimes not at all... because they do not want to pay out the withdrawals.  Roll Eyes

So..yes, be very careful with the KYC verification.  Roll Eyes

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August 23, 2023, 07:24:15 AM
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These KYC related tasks should be completed before gambling. There are many gamblers who could not get KYC approved after depositing money into their account through gambling. As a result they failed to withdraw their money. So after recognizing the fact why a gambler would take the risk? Moreover, if a gambler is faced with such a situation, he cannot do anything legally. Earning money from gambling is very difficult for a gambler but if that money fails to withdraw due to KYC issue It hurts more than losing in gambling.

If they value their personal data then they should not go anywhere because risk is to high if they try to engage on what they don't like. Much better for people that cannot withstand the stress is to stop participating on a platform that requires KYC to avoid problems. But if they know that there's nothing to lose since they are not well known personalities or have big financial deposits to any other institution then its fine for them to participate but we should make sure and be more selective that casino have high trust rating to minimize the risk of this issues.

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August 23, 2023, 07:41:28 AM
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There are many casino sites that offer KYC free gambling and allow you to deposit and withdraw up to certain amount without any Kyc verification. so in this case you will not have any problem even if you do KYC later. But when you go to gamble with a big amount you definitely need KYC verification.  But it is better for everyone to play gambling without any kyc with a small amount on a site first and gain experience of that site.  Then if any site seems good and trustworthy then complete kyc then gamble with a big amount.  It can be a good strategy to research gambling sites
If an online casino needs KYC verification it's better to complete it first, The idea that you can still withdraw a certain amount without KYC is not acceptable by me, such a casino can one day say you should have known better and the fault will be on you.

If it's a No KYC casino then you are free to do anyhow with deposits, but if pass KYC is available on the casino please make sure you pass it first, OP is making some sense, some casinos can be picky on identities you provide, you can believe that your passport is the neatest and nothing can decline it, what if a casino denied it?

The first thing you will think is, it's because you have deposited some money, that they are planning to steal that money, but you have forgotten that it's their space, and you have to bide by their rules, if they say no to your passport it stays a no.

I think it's best to always pass KYC if the online casino asks for it, to avoid stories.

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