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August 23, 2023, 07:53:57 AM
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I agree that having to pass KYC first is the safest way not to have any problems when it comes to any of the following:
  • Gaming
  • Withdrawals
  • Legal Stuff

You can be characterized as someone suspicious or something because if you got nothing to hide, why hide? It's that type of thing for the businesses that do KYC for sure.

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August 23, 2023, 08:11:44 AM
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Simply agree that passing KYC is the first thing gamblers need to do when playing on a platform that requires KYC to withdraw. Because in some cases gamblers don't pay attention to this, they just play and then when they want to withdraw they are hindered by the KYC process which will prolong their withdrawal process, some are even rejected and in the end their funds hang there and cannot be used.

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August 23, 2023, 09:27:31 AM
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Maybe it is a good suggestion from @OP to verify the gambling account before we deposit some money. This is to ensure that we will be fine later, especially with the problem of withdrawing money which is a common problem often experienced by many gamblers. It also assures the casino that we are voluntarily KYCing them because we don't want any trouble for the casino to suspect us.

But before you do KYC at any casino, make sure you have read the terms first and go through the verification process until the casino agrees. Then you can deposit the money. And also, you need to make sure that the casino is trusted so you can be calm about doing KYC and have no problems later. After we do KYC, we can deposit and withdraw the money whenever we want and the casino will process it right away.

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August 23, 2023, 03:50:22 PM
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I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

But isn't rejecting ID only one possibility a casino has to screw their players? If they really want to deny payouts, KYC is one option they have if you haven't already passed it. Even then they could say that "our security system has detected some irregularities and applied a red flag to your account, please resubmit your KYC" and then still reject it.

The only solution from my experience is to play with highly reputed casinos only. Especially when high stakes players are looking for a comfortable place to play at, the first thing they should research is how that casino handles high payouts and whether there is a history of unsettled denials.

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August 23, 2023, 04:08:02 PM
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I agree that having to pass KYC first is the safest way not to have any problems when it comes to any of the following:
  • Gaming
  • Withdrawals
  • Legal Stuff

You can be characterized as someone suspicious or something because if you got nothing to hide, why hide? It's that type of thing for the businesses that do KYC for sure.

This is a case to case basis. As a normal gambler that plays with small bankroll, I never encounter any problem on doing KYC when I’m asked. Submitting KYC now or later doesn’t really matter if your account was flagged by the security team that related to breaking the ToS based on your account activity.

You account will still be freeze even if you submit KYC earlier since the security will review your betting history. Casino use an automated system that to detect suspicious activities on someone account that usually cause of the problem and not by just winning big in contrary to the general discussion on this thread.

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August 23, 2023, 04:21:54 PM
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When you register with a casino platform be sure to read carefully the ToS they provide. If you follow their rules then you may not face problems with your deposits and withdrawals later, so you should take this step. If you are going to bet big from a casino then you must do KYC while withdrawing them and this is mandatory in all casinos. But I think KYC system is good for a player because it is mandatory for a gambler to deposit his money in various casinos. If you have done KYC then you won't be bothered by casino sites in future and you won't have to face hassles. So if you complete KYC then if you win big bets in future you won't have to face big challenges and can easily withdraw them.

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August 23, 2023, 04:41:14 PM
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This happened to me before when I was a beginner in gambling with the first casino that I have played with. I focused on winning and enjoying the entire site as well as all their featured games.
Unfortunately, upon withdrawal, they asked for KYC which really surprised me as a newbie. They were askng for IDs and documents that I couldn't provide that time. So I ended up having my funds on hold which is really frustrating.
I realized that it is better to pass rhe KYC first before aiming for good wins because our profit would be nothing if we couldn't process it due to failed KYCs.
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August 23, 2023, 04:49:42 PM
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Maybe it is a good suggestion from @OP to verify the gambling account before we deposit some money. This is to ensure that we will be fine later, especially with the problem of withdrawing money which is a common problem often experienced by many gamblers. It also assures the casino that we are voluntarily KYCing them because we don't want any trouble for the casino to suspect us.

But before you do KYC at any casino, make sure you have read the terms first and go through the verification process until the casino agrees. Then you can deposit the money. And also, you need to make sure that the casino is trusted so you can be calm about doing KYC and have no problems later. After we do KYC, we can deposit and withdraw the money whenever we want and the casino will process it right away.

As OP said it was better to do KYC as the first step before make involve of your valuable money.Because money is not come easy to us,we need to work harder to earn.It's most essential one for the website to had kyc verification and mostly the kyc sync website was legit.The withdrawal of the winning money mostly not easy in many gambling site.If they was legit, they will allow  the user for the withdrawal from the website.

Their will some terms mentioned by the gambling sites,So you will no need to argue with the website.Some website will ask you to complete kyc to withdrawal, the kyc may not compulsory one to deposit the money.If you fight with the website by skipping the website conditions at the beginning will be leads to the tussle.Most of the website will make the verification process as the first term to the user.
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August 23, 2023, 05:06:15 PM
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At all times, it is better to just comply than to make standards on our own. We are only users of a platform nd we should respect their rules as for their mnagement. In these instances KYC is creating a struggle, they'd be vocal of the issue in order for you to receive your money. It'll just be taking some time especially if there are issues under your account. So far I have never struggled with KYC procedures. With regards to verifying your account first before making a deposit should be a given action especially if you read their rules. You'd earn nothing if ever  you'd be against complying on their terms. Let us just be preventive as well.
This happened to me before when I was a beginner in gambling with the first casino that I have played with. I focused on winning and enjoying the entire site as well as all their featured games.
Unfortunately, upon withdrawal, they asked for KYC which really surprised me as a newbie. They were askng for IDs and documents that I couldn't provide that time. So I ended up having my funds on hold which is really frustrating.
I realized that it is better to pass rhe KYC first before aiming for good wins because our profit would be nothing if we couldn't process it due to failed KYCs.
I think reading the TOS first before the deposit, would be a better approach on such situations. What if they have other rules which would go against your expectations? There are many gambling sites to choose from and s players we are all free to choose on our own depending on our capabilities of compliance. We couldn't make them adjust for us.

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Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

Not all casinos will do this but surely the new ones will never approve your KYC if you have won a jackpot or a very big amount. They will always reject it and make excuses for not accepting your KYC documents and we cannot challenge them. They do this because they know that if they accept your KYC at this point, then they will have to pay you a very big amount which you have won.

Instead of this, if you do the KYC initially without winning any considerable amount, it would be a lot easier to get the KYC approved. I will always prefer to do the KYC before actually playing at the casino, because we have no way to avoid the KYC.

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I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.
Someone who really cares that KYC steps are not required in gambling will definitely look for gambling sites that do not require KYC every time they want to gamble. But the risk is like what you said because the worst case can happen when we get a big win but can't withdraw money from certain sites if we haven't done KYC.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.
I have never been involved in a big win at gambling and so far there have been no experiences regarding large withdrawals from gambling sites that I have worked on, so there is not much to say. But if KYC is important as a condition given by gambling sites, then it will be the decision of each individual when completing KYC and if something unexpected happens regarding the KYC.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.
If the KYC is incomplete and incorrect, the site will definitely give a red signal to the tick. So we can try to repeat and see where the mistake is, don't rush and do it right if you want to do KYC, confirm all the documents needed so that the required identity is complete.

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This happened to me before when I was a beginner in gambling with the first casino that I have played with. I focused on winning and enjoying the entire site as well as all their featured games.
Unfortunately, upon withdrawal, they asked for KYC which really surprised me as a newbie. They were askng for IDs and documents that I couldn't provide that time. So I ended up having my funds on hold which is really frustrating.
I realized that it is better to pass rhe KYC first before aiming for good wins because our profit would be nothing if we couldn't process it due to failed KYCs.

Try to think even further, you must have missed reading the ToS of every online casino. They must have explained in detail about implementing KYC on withdrawals and some of the features that require KYC. Then you skip it and keep playing until you are surprised by the implementation of KYC on withdrawals. Usually there is a maximum withdrawal and if you exceed this limit you will be asked for KYC. If you have already entered and you won and then want to take your money, do the KYC, if you have a problem contact the service, it will be resolved immediately.

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August 23, 2023, 09:30:20 PM
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Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

Not all casinos will do this but surely the new ones will never approve your KYC if you have won a jackpot or a very big amount. They will always reject it and make excuses for not accepting your KYC documents and we cannot challenge them. They do this because they know that if they accept your KYC at this point, then they will have to pay you a very big amount which you have won.

Instead of this, if you do the KYC initially without winning any considerable amount, it would be a lot easier to get the KYC approved. I will always prefer to do the KYC before actually playing at the casino, because we have no way to avoid the KYC.
Are you willing on doing that even if you do know that your arent that a huge amount gambler or wagerer? For sure you would really be that skeptical on doing things like this considering that in dealing with crypto gambling

then we do really value that anonymity which is something that we do really that prefer and sending out documents or verification even we are speaking with known platforms would really be giving that kind of doubt.
Just like on what been said that if you do want to make yourself that skip out on possible headaches then it would be better that you should really be that wise on choosing which platform you would really be playing on.
Also you wont really be bothering yourself about KYC specially if you are just an average gambler who do make use of small funds or amounts on your gambling activity.

Also, its casinos negligence if they wont really be setting out max bet for possible max win for them to make use of that KYC alibi and disapproving kind of technique just for them to be able to avoid
on paying up the winner. It is really just that a bullshit experience on something like this.

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Personally, I'd like to experience the platform first before I go balls-deep into their KYC. I'd submit the necessary ones, then I'll complete the advanced verification later. Once that's done, I can now have the option to deposit huge amounts and not get put into an endless back and forth with the customer representative once I won a huge amount. Saves me the stress of dealing with the reps, and also gives me ample confidence to just play and think of nothing else.
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August 23, 2023, 10:03:55 PM
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This happened to me before when I was a beginner in gambling with the first casino that I have played with. I focused on winning and enjoying the entire site as well as all their featured games.
Unfortunately, upon withdrawal, they asked for KYC which really surprised me as a newbie. They were askng for IDs and documents that I couldn't provide that time. So I ended up having my funds on hold which is really frustrating.
I realized that it is better to pass rhe KYC first before aiming for good wins because our profit would be nothing if we couldn't process it due to failed KYCs.

Try to think even further, you must have missed reading the ToS of every online casino. They must have explained in detail about implementing KYC on withdrawals and some of the features that require KYC. Then you skip it and keep playing until you are surprised by the implementation of KYC on withdrawals. Usually there is a maximum withdrawal and if you exceed this limit you will be asked for KYC. If you have already entered and you won and then want to take your money, do the KYC, if you have a problem contact the service, it will be resolved immediately.

Some find reading TOS is not so important matter to them since they will play the same atmosphere to other casino but little they don't know that there are details are so important to read especially right now where Kyc is important requirements to have by a casino. People should normalized the thoughts of making this as part of their gambling activities since if they are still hesitant and always use fake names to avoid it then for sure problem will rise soon with them for ignoring such important matter.

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August 23, 2023, 10:06:43 PM
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Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.
that's right, before making a deposit, it's important to first investigate the gambling site whether there is a possibility that it will make it difficult for you to make withdrawals with KYC or something like that (especially for those who hate KYC)

anyway from what i have noticed so far, usually gambling sites will temporarily freeze accounts that make large withdrawals, they will detect those accounts and carry out investigations as to whether there is a possibility that those players have other accounts on that site, therefore i recommend withdrawing slowly land your winning money so they don't detect your account, don't get you in trouble and they claim you are cheating on their gambling site.

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August 23, 2023, 10:07:44 PM
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True enough. I've seen quite a lot of complaints about how KYC applications were rejected but at the same time, I've also seen some applications that were rejected rightfully so. The rest? The result wasn't shared and the small minority would be people who truly were mismatched to doing something illegal.

In the end KYC is a process that most would take and wouldn't really have issues imo. Most of the issues stem from multi accounting, VPN, and illegal access so really, if you tick any of these, just switch casinos.

I do agree with customer support being frustrating though. It's almost always like that with casinos tbf.

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August 23, 2023, 10:31:22 PM
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Its not only KYC verification that fails. I've experienced it often times with different KYC providers, the processes differs and can get frustrating very quickly. So if you can't pass it when there's nothing at stake, the frustration increases 10x when there is something at stake if you don't pass.

Simply agree that passing KYC is the first thing gamblers need to do when playing on a platform that requires KYC to withdraw. Because in some cases gamblers don't pay attention to this, they just play and then when they want to withdraw they are hindered by the KYC process which will prolong their withdrawal process, some are even rejected and in the end their funds hang there and cannot be used.

The rejection is often not from the casino but mostly from their authorized KYC service provider.

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August 23, 2023, 10:53:05 PM
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Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.
I prefer dealing with the verification part later on once i'm sure i'll be playing regularly in the casino I picked because, as one of the earlier posts mentioned, gamblers have several accounts, and verifying every single one could put your information at risk.

Getting verified too early also comes with a risk. What if you suddenly go on a heater after your verification and the casino doesn't want you playing on their site anymore after making too much profit from their games?

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August 23, 2023, 11:25:07 PM
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A few of people has already said it from here, that before they allow the player to deposit is that they've asked already for verification.

Getting verified too early also comes with a risk. What if you suddenly go on a heater after your verification and the casino doesn't want you playing on their site anymore after making too much profit from their games?
Although this could happen for an instance but the chance is very low. It differs from everyone's point of view whichever is preferred and it's got a point.

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