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August 23, 2023, 11:33:17 PM
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Verifying later on is a good practice for privacy, while the other way around is assumption of having a security of the deposit and future withdrawals. Where in fact your account can be locked even though you are already kyc verified, since your KYC is not the only thing they will look at when there's a "suspicious" activity on the account. For those users who have single playing casino, that's good, not for those who have multiple casinos. Why people plays in different casino? Simply because they don't share the same odds, games, game provider, etc.

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August 23, 2023, 11:36:40 PM
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I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

But isn't rejecting ID only one possibility a casino has to screw their players? If they really want to deny payouts, KYC is one option they have if you haven't already passed it. Even then they could say that "our security system has detected some irregularities and applied a red flag to your account, please resubmit your KYC" and then still reject it.

Rejecting valid documents is one possibility for a casino to screw its players.  But if they reject the documents because it does not conform to the standard or needed requirement, like submitting ID that is not on the list of valid requirement, the verifies has the reason to reject those documents.

The only solution from my experience is to play with highly reputed casinos only. Especially when high stakes players are looking for a comfortable place to play at, the first thing they should research is how that casino handles high payouts and whether there is a history of unsettled denials.

The only solution to this is by submitting the required documents and not other documents outside the requirements.  Even if a person is playing in a very reputable casino, if they were asked for KYC documents and the document submitted is not on the accepted list, then the KYC procedure will be denied.

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August 23, 2023, 11:44:49 PM
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A reputable casino will not do that, maybe some are not providing adequate ad required documents needed for the casino tobe satisfied with.
No reputable casino will do it . It is only the bad eggs amongst them that keeps spoiling their name. However I think what the OP is trying to say is that to have a hitch free withdrawal process is for the gambler to do the first things first at the beginning by completing the KYC requirements. No reputable casino will hold back your winning because of KYC. Infact they want returning gamblers so they'll make the KYC process pretty straightforward.

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August 23, 2023, 11:46:33 PM
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Personally, I'd like to experience the platform first before I go balls-deep into their KYC. I'd submit the necessary ones, then I'll complete the advanced verification later. Once that's done, I can now have the option to deposit huge amounts and not get put into an endless back and forth with the customer representative once I won a huge amount. Saves me the stress of dealing with the reps, and also gives me ample confidence to just play and think of nothing else.
^ Yes that is right, this way, you can assess whether the casino fits with your preferences and expectations.
Completing advanced verification later makes sense, as it minimizes potential obstacles while still providing a seamless experience if you happen to win big. By taking care of the verification process in advance, you are essentially removing the stress of dealing with customer representatives and ensuring that your focus remains on the game itself. Striking a balance between exploring the platform, safeguarding your privacy, and preparing for potential winnings is a smart way to approach online gambling. Your strategy gives you the freedom to enjoy the games with confidence. Sometimes, delaying verification for privacy reasons probably seems appealing, but it is crucial to recognize that assuming security based solely on deposits and withdrawals can lead to unexpected issues. Even if you have completed KYC, your account can still be locked if the casino perceives "suspicious" activity.
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August 23, 2023, 11:49:21 PM
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I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I disagree with you. I have an account in some casinos where I did not carry out the KYC until today, I did not do it for the reasons below:
1. I play for fun, relatively low values and I always convert my winnings into more bets because I don't have profit as the ultimate goal;
2. My bets are mostly sports, so the profit I get from each bet is smaller than other games of chance, I am aware that I will not become rich overnight;
3. No money in this world buys my privacy, I'd rather be guaranteed to remain anonymous and "try my luck" than send my documents and selfies to all casino sites;
4. I am of legal age, residing in a country that is not restricted in the casinos where I play, my documents are up to date, my source of income is legal... I have nothing to fear and I believe that it would be a lot of incompetence for a casino to tarnish your reputation with me by trying to fail me in a KYC process.

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August 24, 2023, 07:56:39 AM
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Verifying later on is a good practice for privacy, while the other way around is assumption of having a security of the deposit and future withdrawals. Where in fact your account can be locked even though you are already kyc verified, since your KYC is not the only thing they will look at when there's a "suspicious" activity on the account. For those users who have single playing casino, that's good, not for those who have multiple casinos. Why people plays in different casino? Simply because they don't share the same odds, games, game provider, etc.
How possibility is good decision for verifying document later? what happen when suddenly account get freeze huge amount withdrawing activities will get easily for KYC approving? I don't think gambler want to create multiple casino account because hunting bonus signup is difficult with small offer, better KYC firstly before depositing fund and when huge amount withdrawing there are not get problem from gambling platform or casino required for verifying account.
Since many cases with account suddenly freeze with withdrawing activities, its warning for all gambling platform have to verify account firstly before active playing in gambling platform.

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August 24, 2023, 08:22:51 AM
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Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.
I prefer dealing with the verification part later on once i'm sure i'll be playing regularly in the casino I picked because, as one of the earlier posts mentioned, gamblers have several accounts, and verifying every single one could put your information at risk.

Getting verified too early also comes with a risk. What if you suddenly go on a heater after your verification and the casino doesn't want you playing on their site anymore after making too much profit from their games?
If you believe that passing KYC on several online casino could put your information at risk you shouldn't be gambling on any one casino that requires for verification.

Well it's everyone's dream to keep winning until the casino stop you from gambling, that's an awesome feeling I bet, but stopping you from gambling or not doesn't mean they will use your information for something bad.

You said you can pass verification later and this is the method you prefer, will this stop them from stopping you to gamble on their casino at that later time when you pass the KYC?

What if you win a large amount of money and you are asked to pass KYC before you can withdraw, I am sure you won't leave without withdrawing the fund, whatever the Casino plan to do with your KYC information later will remain unknown, we are back to where we start I believe.

Pass the KYC too early or later, the danger still lurking anyway, also you winning every rounds of game on the casino and they stop you still doesn't mean the next thing is to use your information for bad things behind your back.

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August 24, 2023, 09:11:08 AM
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Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I will not do it, I care about my privacy when it comes to gambling activity. I will try to find casinos that proven to be KYC friendly. So far I have never experienced bad things about KYC because the casinos where I play are KYC friendly. I also know my gambling budget and I believe there is no way that I will win such huge amount of money that will make the casino ask me to complete intentity verification.

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August 24, 2023, 09:17:05 AM
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I always disliked about KYC. I missed the days when we didn't need to do it all. But at this point kyc is becoming nearly necessary I wouldn't gamble about it. If I set new accounts in various gambling websites I am sure to do KYC at first. I think I agree with people about this. If you avoid kyc and make money through website its very risky. Your money may stuck in there which would mean you wasted all your money.
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August 24, 2023, 09:17:18 AM
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I disagree with you. I have an account in some casinos where I did not carry out the KYC until today, I did not do it for the reasons below:
1. I play for fun, relatively low values and I always convert my winnings into more bets because I don't have profit as the ultimate goal;

But you understand that at some point, if you manage to win a large enough amount, you will want to withdraw it, and for this, most likely the casino will require you to go through verification, which you will do in this case, you will just play on and not try withdraw nothing?

Even if you play just for fun, at some point with the right result you will have a desire to take some of the profits, this is normal for any successful player.
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August 24, 2023, 09:18:20 AM
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Definitely agree that crypto casinos should keep KYC to a minimum unless they suspect the player is a politically exposed person or perhaps their transactions appear to be money laundering related. It's usually quite obvious to the casino when users are attempting to launder ill-gotten funds, the players meet minimum requirements for deposit withdrawal (usually 1 or 2x wager of total deposit amount) and then immediately try to withdraw the majority of funds.

Gambling should be for entertainment and not a route for scammers to clean funds after all but I'm definitely pro no-kyc!
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August 24, 2023, 10:40:13 AM
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As OP said it was better to do KYC as the first step before make involve of your valuable money.Because money is not come easy to us,we need to work harder to earn.It's most essential one for the website to had kyc verification and mostly the kyc sync website was legit.The withdrawal of the winning money mostly not easy in many gambling site.If they was legit, they will allow  the user for the withdrawal from the website.

Their will some terms mentioned by the gambling sites,So you will no need to argue with the website.Some website will ask you to complete kyc to withdrawal, the kyc may not compulsory one to deposit the money.If you fight with the website by skipping the website conditions at the beginning will be leads to the tussle.Most of the website will make the verification process as the first term to the user.
At least if we have verified KYC, we can avoid problems of suspicion from casinos because we can win large amounts of money and deposit large amounts of money to gamble. And even when we want to withdraw large amounts of money, there won't be any problems because our gambling account has been verified and the casino will process it without any suspicion if we have violated one of the rules.

Apart from that, by verifying KYC, we could get another bonus specifically given to members who have done KYC, which means we are one of the members who can get it. That means before we do KYC, we have to find a trusted casino that can take good care of all the customer data so there will be little worry from its members. By doing KYC, our status will become a priority for the casino because not all of its members want to do KYC.

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August 24, 2023, 10:55:58 AM
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I've learned this lesson a few years back. I gambled before not knowing that they will require KYC once you withdraw your money, and had my KYC rejected several times which is really frustrating. So, before getting involved in any gambling sites, make sure to read their terms and conditions to avoid having your money frozen in their website once you have made a deposit or about to withdraw your winnings. Take note there are abusive gambling platforms that will find ways for them not to pay your money back if you've won a lot of money.
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August 24, 2023, 11:16:12 AM
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I've learned this lesson a few years back. I gambled before not knowing that they will require KYC once you withdraw your money, and had my KYC rejected several times which is really frustrating. So, before getting involved in any gambling sites, make sure to read their terms and conditions to avoid having your money frozen in their website once you have made a deposit or about to withdraw your winnings. Take note there are abusive gambling platforms that will find ways for them not to pay your money back if you've won a lot of money.
Reading Terms of Service is painful so you can reduce your pain by reading FAQs with very basic questions and answers that usually including KYC and withdrawal terms. If you don't find what you need or need more details, you can search with keywords in Terms of Service.

I agree with your recommendation and only want to share some quick ways to scan Terms of Service and FAQs.

At least if we have verified KYC, we can avoid problems of suspicion from casinos because we can win large amounts of money and deposit large amounts of money to gamble. And even when we want to withdraw large amounts of money, there won't be any problems because our gambling account has been verified and the casino will process it without any suspicion if we have violated one of the rules.
If you search and find terms about KYC, you should do KYC before using your account for betting. If you don't want to have account termination, withdrawal suspend later and have vague idea about doing KYC or not. You must clear your minds at KYC-required gambling sites at beginning.

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Apart from that, by verifying KYC, we could get another bonus specifically given to members who have done KYC, which means we are one of the members who can get it.
If a casino does not require mandatory KYC, it's good to use your account there. However, you must avoid abusing their bonuses, promotions because they can detect your cheating on their platforms. They always have terms to terminate your accounts or request KYC if they detect cheating or suspicious activities.

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August 24, 2023, 12:06:57 PM
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A reputable casino will not do that, maybe some are not providing adequate ad required documents needed for the casino tobe satisfied with.
No reputable casino will do it . It is only the bad eggs amongst them that keeps spoiling their name. However I think what the OP is trying to say is that to have a hitch free withdrawal process is for the gambler to do the first things first at the beginning by completing the KYC requirements. No reputable casino will hold back your winning because of KYC. Infact they want returning gamblers so they'll make the KYC process pretty straightforward.
Those who want to establish their casino business must allow their clients to withdraw their money after receiving proper information. But casinos that have different demands i.e. plan to withdraw money by operating their business for a short period of time they try to freeze the money of those clients or not allow them to withdraw their money. A major advantage of gambling at a reputable casino is that a gambler can place his trust. But I also think a gambler should resolve their KYC issues before depositing money in any casino platform.

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August 24, 2023, 01:36:10 PM
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Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.
I prefer dealing with the verification part later on once i'm sure i'll be playing regularly in the casino I picked because, as one of the earlier posts mentioned, gamblers have several accounts, and verifying every single one could put your information at risk.

Getting verified too early also comes with a risk. What if you suddenly go on a heater after your verification and the casino doesn't want you playing on their site anymore after making too much profit from their games?

It both has advantages and disadvantages but isn't the most important criteria that the site is legit? If a site is legit in terms of licenses and registration and you win a lot of money on their platform and they still deny the payout, at least you would have a chance to sue them if you've done nothing wrong. If a site is unknown or can't be sufficiently verified, it should be avoided altogether. There is nothing you can do when such a site denies a payout. On legit sites I would always expect them to ask for KYC and be ready to provide it unless the own preference for data privacy outweighs the money that is at risk there.

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Even you've completed the KYC after registration, don't think your account is already safe to prevent KYC drama, the casino can demand back the KYC you've sent with an excuse to prove if you're the real person who's control your account. They will say they detect an unknown connection or device, so they want to prove your ownership. And the new drama will begin, after all it's depend on the casino want to pay the winning or not.

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August 24, 2023, 02:17:23 PM
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Even you've completed the KYC after registration, don't think your account is already safe to prevent KYC drama, the casino can demand back the KYC you've sent with an excuse to prove if you're the real person who's control your account. They will say they detect an unknown connection or device, so they want to prove your ownership. And the new drama will begin, after all it's depend on the casino want to pay the winning or not.
You are right, but situations or issues like this dont just come up on casinos, expect the casino is one that is not trusted and possibly managed by scammers.

A reputable Casino can only demand a re-submittion and re-passing a kyc verification only if you access your account with a VPN, something you've never done before, or maybe right from the time you registered, you've always used VPN to access the casino, and some day for some reason, you forgot or willingly decided to access the casinos with your normal IP, such moves can trigger the KYC system where by you will be required to re-verify your account, most especially if you have some big amount of money in pending withdrawal request.

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August 24, 2023, 02:43:37 PM
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Verifying later on is a good practice for privacy, while the other way around is assumption of having a security of the deposit and future withdrawals. Where in fact your account can be locked even though you are already kyc verified, since your KYC is not the only thing they will look at when there's a "suspicious" activity on the account. For those users who have single playing casino, that's good, not for those who have multiple casinos. Why people plays in different casino? Simply because they don't share the same odds, games, game provider, etc.
How possibility is good decision for verifying document later? what happen when suddenly account get freeze huge amount withdrawing activities will get easily for KYC approving? I don't think gambler want to create multiple casino account because hunting bonus signup is difficult with small offer, better KYC firstly before depositing fund and when huge amount withdrawing there are not get problem from gambling platform or casino required for verifying account.
Since many cases with account suddenly freeze with withdrawing activities, its warning for all gambling platform have to verify account firstly before active playing in gambling platform.

It depends on you, really. If you are looking for a casino that has an options to be verified later on then you yourself should already know the risks that are associated to it and practice being safe on the side as anything can happen to your account. In situations like that, it's much better if you will just pour a small funds towards the account so that you can accept what will happen along the road and if you have a winnings on that, be aware that you should withdraw some of it bit by bit because if you will withdraw it all in one go, they might freeze it.

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August 24, 2023, 02:54:48 PM
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If this involves playing with a small amount,  I think this shouldn't land you into more scrutiny from the gaming house, unless you have a similar play style with somebody else especially if this is a winning strategy..then most definitely this will attract the attention of the house.

When is the right time to go through KYC, let's just say its safe to do this before depositing any big amounts or better yet after registering account if you know that the casino is going to make you go this process sooner or later.

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