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August 24, 2023, 02:59:14 PM
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I think the human habit of procrastinating added to the non-compliance with KYC is the reason for this. Although I dont support either the KYC of gamblers on a casino neither do I support gambling like an addict, I think things might become better as crypto become mainstream and gets acceptance. Although there might be grey areas because this is the gambling section we are talking about.

Frustration seen after getting money locked up because the player did not pass KYC yet is something common. But I do suspect many users to be using tainted money sources and then getting caught to be in this group too.

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August 24, 2023, 03:04:29 PM
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Not everyone want to verify their account because they're just a small gambler and not looking to make big amount of money in the casino, they're only gamble for fun. But if there's a lucky moment someone hit a jackpot and he need to verify his account, he might give his KYC because he want to withdraw his winning. Successful or not, he will not really that care since gambling is for fun.

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August 24, 2023, 03:22:09 PM
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How possibility is good decision for verifying document later? what happen when suddenly account get freeze huge amount withdrawing activities will get easily for KYC approving?
A KYC verified account is not a security and wont give any kind of assurance that your account will not be locked after requesting withdrawal.

Passing KYC later is the standard way, and usual way to do it. Your question will be solve in passing KYC, and only a newbie and no brainer will withdrawn all his deposits + huge wins in a single withdrawal request which always trigger a casino to do a strict verification/analysis to the account.

I don't think gambler want to create multiple casino account because hunting bonus signup is difficult with small offer, better KYC firstly before depositing fund and when huge amount withdrawing there are not get problem from gambling platform or casino required for verifying account..
Deposit bonus is not the only thing why gamblers use different casino at least 2-3 sites where they are KYC verified, check my first post. And its a fact, many of us uses multiple casinos, kyc-verified not just only 1.

Those locked accounts after KYC verification are isolated cases only, despite of thousands of good experience there is 5-10 cases such as these which those users knows why. Usually it's always on their end, internet connections — using VPN, from banned countries, banned users that share the same ISP and location, user with the same pattern from banned users, and many more. Although some of these were solved and/or returned their deposits since its against casino terms, there are some who were totally locked. Worst case, users use scam casino, exit-scam casinos, and etc.

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August 24, 2023, 03:32:42 PM
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Not everyone want to verify their account because they're just a small gambler and not looking to make big amount of money in the casino, they're only gamble for fun. But if there's a lucky moment someone hit a jackpot and he need to verify his account, he might give his KYC because he want to withdraw his winning. Successful or not, he will not really that care since gambling is for fun.
Yes, it's true that small gamblers don't need to do KYC because only for small bets to provide identity that would be very bad in my opinion, unless we are big gamblers who often bet with big bets maybe it would be better to verify KYC at the beginning but of course look for a big and reputable casino good on this forum as it prevents the scams that are happening in some casinos lately.

I think never try to play in a small and new casino let alone verify KYC at the beginning at that casino because of course they are still prone to cheating and manipulating the terms, as long as we are still small gamblers there is no need to rush to verify KYC because we can still withdraw money without problems in big casinos, except in small casinos it might be a hassle to withdraw money, after all I like to gamble for fun not for money  Cheesy

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August 24, 2023, 03:37:54 PM
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Not everyone want to verify their account because they're just a small gambler and not looking to make big amount of money in the casino, they're only gamble for fun. But if there's a lucky moment someone hit a jackpot and he need to verify his account, he might give his KYC because he want to withdraw his winning. Successful or not, he will not really that care since gambling is for fun.
Yes, it's true that small gamblers don't need to do KYC because only for small bets to provide identity that would be very bad in my opinion, unless we are big gamblers who often bet with big bets maybe it would be better to verify KYC at the beginning but of course look for a big and reputable casino good on this forum as it prevents the scams that are happening in some casinos lately.

I think never try to play in a small and new casino let alone verify KYC at the beginning at that casino because of course they are still prone to cheating and manipulating the terms, as long as we are still small gamblers there is no need to rush to verify KYC because we can still withdraw money without problems in big casinos, except in small casinos it might be a hassle to withdraw money, after all I like to gamble for fun not for money  Cheesy

It's quite risky because they aren't that reputable to trust our money and mainly our identity to them, anything can happen to a start-up casino as they might dissolve easily in just a few months because the target that they want isn't achieved specially these days that there are already dozens of online casinos that are already known to the community and it will be a total struggle for the new ones to compete with them. In most occasions, some gamblers might try what they are offering but that's for a limited time because one or another, they will always go back to where they want.
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August 24, 2023, 03:41:17 PM
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I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

While that is true, I would suggest to make an initial deposit of a very small amount to try out the site.
After feeling confident about the site and making a withdrawal from the site, only then we should do the KYC.
Some sites are there just to steal your KYC details and so we have to be cautious while dealing with such sites.
So it's always better to make a very small amount of deposit to verify if the site is genuine and then proceed with KYC.

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August 24, 2023, 03:44:08 PM
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Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.
I don't know with other people, KYC is mandatory for them or gambling platforms, but not with me, I don't like online casinos asking for my identity, even though i won big, anyway i didn't bet big amount, so i don't really care in having KYC.

From one side KYC is good and on the other hand there are bad, maybe KYC must pass first for those who bet in large amounts, it does seem to be required, as you said, but there are many cases that I see kyc not working properly, because users commit violations that have been determined by the casino, but for me if we are not greedy in gambling, I think it's safe even though without KYC, to be honest until now I have never made a KYC withdrawal at the casino I played at, hoping there will be no problems later and it's still safe for me personally.

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August 24, 2023, 05:33:05 PM
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If you believe that passing KYC on several online casino could put your information at risk you shouldn't be gambling on any one casino that requires for verification.

What if you win a large amount of money and you are asked to pass KYC before you can withdraw, I am sure you won't leave without withdrawing the fund, whatever the Casino plan to do with your KYC information later will remain unknown, we are back to where we start I believe.

Pass the KYC too early or later, the danger still lurking anyway, also you winning every rounds of game on the casino and they stop you still doesn't mean the next thing is to use your information for bad things behind your back.
Even if we play on casinos that don't require verification, they can eventually ask for verification because they update their terms and conditions.

I agree with you as well, there are still risks in passing KYC both early and late, and I only wanted to point out that it doesn't hurt to be cautious because passing KYC at the start doesn't always mean you're in the clear for withdrawing large amounts of money. Also, they could still ask for more information in the future because some casinos have different levels of KYC.

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August 24, 2023, 09:26:21 PM
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I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

That's quite a conundrum. If the casino is legit and honest - they will not try to scam you by stalling your KYC verification. But if they're scammy, even if you pass KYC first, they could find a thousand other made-up reasons to freeze your funds and deny withdrawal.
So, if you have to gamble at all, it's best to use a casino that operates legally and is licenced/registered in your jurisdiction, in such way you should be able to use legal means to get your money back if things go wrong.
Or just use unlicensed crypto casinos that don't require KYC but are trusted and have been operating for a long time.

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August 24, 2023, 10:34:01 PM
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Some find reading TOS is not so important matter to them since they will play the same atmosphere to other casino but little they don't know that there are details are so important to read especially right now where Kyc is important requirements to have by a casino. People should normalized the thoughts of making this as part of their gambling activities since if they are still hesitant and always use fake names to avoid it then for sure problem will rise soon with them for ignoring such important matter.

To ignore the important things is to ignore the money they put in. Even though they took pains to make the bet at the beginning, when they wanted to withdraw there were many problems that arose because of some ToS that required KYC or some other rules.
Usually also about restrictions on who can access, use of VPNs and such. Reading the rules at the beginning will not take up a lot of our time, it will give us a clear understanding of how the gambling platform works

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August 24, 2023, 10:54:28 PM
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I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

That's quite a conundrum. If the casino is legit and honest - they will not try to scam you by stalling your KYC verification. But if they're scammy, even if you pass KYC first, they could find a thousand other made-up reasons to freeze your funds and deny withdrawal.
So, if you have to gamble at all, it's best to use a casino that operates legally and is licenced/registered in your jurisdiction, in such way you should be able to use legal means to get your money back if things go wrong.
Or just use unlicensed crypto casinos that don't require KYC but are trusted and have been operating for a long time.
Could really be distinguished but on later time durations but we arent that dumb not to see those main differences in between those new or old reputable platforms in speaking about legitimacy in speaking about huge wins.
There are really just those people who are really that too mindful about winning amount lock ups and asking about that kyc which it turns out to be standard for most casinos but actually there are really that casinos who do really pay out no matter how big it is as long you havent violated something during on your game plays or simply having no issue then they could really be able to release it right away but of course it would be impossible if there would be no check ups or if it doesnt really turn on the alarm then i dont really see something or any issues at all.

Sending out your KYC before you do play or get involved on a gambling platform is a no go here on crypto space. Just like on what been said that we do really prioritize or really that give importance with our privacy
and sending out documentations is never been that ideal or something appealing. This is why it would be always better that you should stick into reliable and trustable ones and making up some research doesnt
really cost an arm and leg of yours if you are really that minding with this kind of issue.

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August 24, 2023, 10:56:45 PM
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Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected. Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.
If your KYC isn't approved yet, there must be some limitation on the casino site. I even think you may not playing on certain games, so how you can win the game? Moreover, it is a rare case to win first but you will pass KYC later. Even it is possible, it should be not in popular casinos. Most casinos must be aware of this possibility, so they have a mechanism to prevent this case.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.
Ideally, you can't deposit if your KYC isn't approved yet. The casinos must already give a warn to every new gambler to finish KYC first before they make a first deposit. Those new gamblers who make rush deposits, must don't read a term & condition first. It is purely the mistake made by the new gamblers, it is not the casino's fault.


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August 24, 2023, 11:03:46 PM
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Not everyone want to verify their account because they're just a small gambler and not looking to make big amount of money in the casino, they're only gamble for fun. But if there's a lucky moment someone hit a jackpot and he need to verify his account, he might give his KYC because he want to withdraw his winning. Successful or not, he will not really that care since gambling is for fun.
True, it's rarely to see that the gambling site was limiting the account that was only wagering small amounts of money. The strict requirements were only happening for someone who wagered huge sum of money. Sometimes, it's really stressed in verifying our account as the casino demands difficult requirement. It's not all of people are gambling for fun, but majority is yes. People are being safe from verification as long as they were wagering below the limit already set by the casino itself.
It's cool to see that but the winner of jackpot may need to verify their KYC through difficult ways. I saw that some were winning max win, but they were struggling to verify their KYC to withdraw their jackpot.

People can use that trick. No jackpot no KYC.  Cheesy

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August 24, 2023, 11:19:57 PM
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Yes, I think it's more wise to pass KYC and even know the pros and cons of a platform before deciding to put your money into it, be it a casino or even an exchange. I had that bad experience with an exchange in the past, where I created an account and deposited my coins there, but after trading and trying to withdraw, I realised I had to pass their KYC first before withdrawal was allowed. I tried the KYC procedure, but confirmation took more than two weeks, after which it failed, and I tried it again, which lasted again for about a week and failed. I wrote countless emails to the exchange but got no response. I finally retracted my asset, but it took about two months. So, I think this kind of thing could also happen to gamblers at any casino of their choice, so I agree that one should look out for the pros and cons of a casino before making a deposit. If it's a casino that requires you to pass KYC, do it first before depositing.

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August 24, 2023, 11:29:32 PM
 #135

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I found this not good at some point. If we don't have a plan to keep on playing on that site, that's totally not making sense.

If truly afraid about being asked on KYC, then we can check the Terms and Conditions related to that so we know what to do later on. If not satisfied, we can email the support for a much better explanation of anything related to KYC. I don't find it a good idea to just proceed with the identity and verification process when in the first place, we are not planning to play longer on that site.

Aside from that, if deposits are done normally, without any promotion, I don't find the winnings from that as subject to KYC right way not unless the said gambling site does have a requirement of having verified first before any withdrawal should be made. Fortunately, here in the crypto-gambling world, there are lots of gambling sites that don't need a forced KYC regardless of the winning amount*.

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August 24, 2023, 11:46:34 PM
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You are right, some people who feel that it's good to deposit and play gambles first before verifying it kyc is the best, they are people who complain mostly in gambling websites, kyc verification needs to be done before involving in any act of things in a particular platform, because I believe that why some people do have issues in a particular platform is because they refuse to follow the instructions of gambling platform I know, so in particular gambling platform you need to study their requirements first before associating or working with them properly.

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August 24, 2023, 11:59:03 PM
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You are right, some people who feel that it's good to deposit and play gambles first before verifying it kyc is the best, they are people who complain mostly in gambling websites, kyc verification needs to be done before involving in any act of things in a particular platform, because I believe that why some people do have issues in a particular platform is because they refuse to follow the instructions of gambling platform I know, so in particular gambling platform you need to study their requirements first before associating or working with them properly.

They get what they wanted, though. People who aren't really taking the time to review everything and not act upon what they find are the ones who are really asking for trouble. They already know the possibility, and they already tried the game. What else do they need to find out? If other people are already submitting KYC docs to the casino, what stops them from doing the same anyway?

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August 25, 2023, 05:38:31 AM
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If you search and find terms about KYC, you should do KYC before using your account for betting. If you don't want to have account termination, withdrawal suspend later and have vague idea about doing KYC or not. You must clear your minds at KYC-required gambling sites at beginning.
Yes, that's absolutely true mate. We must be able to decide to do KYC at the beginning before registering or after we win because casinos can ask us to do KYC whenever they want. And it will also be our responsibility to do KYC, whether we will continue to do KYC at that casino or choose to move to another casino. But the average gambler will complain about this KYC problem after they encounter a temporary hold on their withdrawal process if they haven't done KYC.

If a casino does not require mandatory KYC, it's good to use your account there. However, you must avoid abusing their bonuses, promotions because they can detect your cheating on their platforms. They always have terms to terminate your accounts or request KYC if they detect cheating or suspicious activities.
We, as crypto users, would be very happy if we could find a casino that doesn't require mandatory KYC because we don't want to hand over any documents to the casino. Moreover, our goal in playing gambling is just to have fun and not to chase victory or other goals. But those who really intend to win must be aware that doing KYC will be something they have to fulfill if they want to process the withdrawal later. And if we don't want to do KYC, we don't need to take part in bonuses and promotions if there really is a requirement to do KYC first.

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August 25, 2023, 05:45:00 AM
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Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

I don't agree because for the amounts that I play for I have never been KYC'd (sometimes even going beyond the amounts that make you KYC'd according to the ToS, but that would be the subject of another thread). Precisely by doing what I have done, no crypto casino, and I have played in a few, has my personal data. And your proposal to pass KYC a priori doesn't get you out of trouble 100% because if you win a big win and the site wants to delay the payment of your withdrawal, as they usually want to do, they can find any other excuse.

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August 25, 2023, 05:45:53 AM
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Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.
But then again, the people that use these sportsbooks and casinos usually aren't first time gamblers..which means chances are high they have undergone KYC on other platforms without any rejection and they would be confident that they can play now and get to pass KYC later and 95% of the time it works!

But for anybody new to the gambling  🎰  world, word of advice should be KYC before deposit to avoid any future problems when trying to withdraw as these casino's act funny sometimes Roll Eyes.

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