I will pass KYC later is a bad idea

[LUCKMCFLY]

By the way, there is another huge disadvantage of going through the KYC in advance: if we are dealing with a dishonest casino, then they can make money by selling our data to third parties. Judging by the fact that there are a lot of similar goods on dark markets, many services earn money by this (I don’t believe that all of them were “hacked”).

Good point, but even legit casinos (or other businesses) can have customer data information "leaks" which I suspect, a lot of times, could be due to some rogue employees stealing and selling data on the dark market. This happens on all levels, including banks.

Correct, the casinos might have great reputation but it does not guarantee that data leaks will never happen. We all know that the employees in the casinos are all human who may have a greed to make more money by doing illegal thing. In this case, once it is happening, the casino cant do anything except firing the employees. How about the players whose data has been sold by this naughty employees? There will be nothing to do except accept the fact and casino also cant do anything except apologizing of what is happening.

Indeed, nobody seems to be entirely innocent when it comes to protect gamblers' data at a casino. I'm confident that many employees are driven by the desire/greed for extra earnings, even if it means leaking data on their responsibilities.

To be honest, I don't think that there's a completely legitimate casino at all. They may present themselves as legitimate but deep down they might prioritize extracting more from their customers (gamblers) without thinking a lot about the consequences.

What they say is very true, now things when it comes to money , because there are some people who do not care about their professional Ethics and for little they can Sell this Data , but now I imagine that the systems have been updated and those things , well I think that those in Charge of security are mopnnitroedos and seen by cameras, apart from the fact that there are many things that can influence there, if there is a small data leak it can be immediately detected by the system and alarms are activated, thus correcting that a worker may have that access to the data of the users, with their KYC, which is quite delicate , and of course, that is one of the most recurrent measures of the epersonas that their data is not stolen, that is something normal, I have seen that many of The occasions where a casino can Look for and take into consideration that KYC is beneficial, can say many things, Personally I think they are Forgetting that Security systems are vulnerable, but that part that is so important is simply not they say, because they know that everything falls there.

Now,  accept something, everything , be it in Exchanges, in casinos, they are asking for KYC for everything , and things for players , traders who like anonymity, they are running out of options to be anonymous, because now It is more all focused that they have to know everything about the person, there can be nothing or nobody that escapes the radar of governments, banks, third parties with power, this is something that really bothers.

Something that we can fight against is that , even so , I have seen that some players leave their sites, decentralized casinos, but it turns out to be much more expensive, due to all the risk that this entails, so if we see it from one point of view Well , things like that you will Always be anonymous, your privacy is unique, you will continue to make Transactions and keep safe , but When a problem occurs, I think the Support is Heavy and it can be very Difficult.

[ethereumhunter]

Good point, but even legit casinos (or other businesses) can have customer data information "leaks" which I suspect, a lot of times, could be due to some rogue employees stealing and selling data on the dark market. This happens on all levels, including banks.

I know some people who got their identity stolen because of some leaks in the place where they work and it really turned out bad because they used their identity for cellular fraud and other scam activities. It didn't turn out well and the guy needed to pay lots of money just to clear his name and they never tracked the one who did it. thankfully he is fully cleared now and very careful when it comes to sharing his personal information, he even uses his real name in his social media account due to his past trauma. The poor man was just a fish vendor in the market and was suddenly taken by some police because of someone who stole his identity.

It's also a pity if a person like that has been accused of doing illegal things even though he didn't do anything. But that's what happens when we use real identities to register with third parties that we don't even know very well. People should start thinking about this and always be careful if they want to pass on their true identity to third parties. They may have to ensure that the third party can really maintain the confidentiality of all its members who have submitted their documents to their third party.

I have also heard that something similar happened in my area and I feel that this fraud must be stopped by increasing vigilance from the users themselves. They must protect their identity well and not carelessly hand it over to third parties. They need to check everything before doing KYC on a site, not just in a casino, because fraud can happen anywhere we might never expect.

[danherbias07]

I have also heard that something similar happened in my area and I feel that this fraud must be stopped by increasing vigilance from the users themselves. They must protect their identity well and not carelessly hand it over to third parties. They need to check everything before doing KYC on a site, not just in a casino, because fraud can happen anywhere we might never expect.

Add the phishing attempts too.
One time I saw a gambler's chat for an attempt of phishing by using a known gambling site's name. I told him to recheck the website address first and not click it and Voila! he saw there was a difference in the name.
These scammers will use any detail that they get and that is why before we pass our KYC information we should also check the address of the site. We should always be keen to look at every detail and not just click anything that is sent to us thru e-mail.
Sometimes, the scammers use bonus rewards, monthly bonuses, and other promos to make it attractive and clickable, and that's where they will get their victims.
Sure, KYC is so hard for many gamblers who want to stay anonymous but somehow this is also a way for us to be secured.

[Negotiation]

Good point, but even legit casinos (or other businesses) can have customer data information "leaks" which I suspect, a lot of times, could be due to some rogue employees stealing and selling data on the dark market. This happens on all levels, including banks.

I know some people who got their identity stolen because of some leaks in the place where they work and it really turned out bad because they used their identity for cellular fraud and other scam activities. It didn't turn out well and the guy needed to pay lots of money just to clear his name and they never tracked the one who did it. thankfully he is fully cleared now and very careful when it comes to sharing his personal information, he even uses his real name in his social media account due to his past trauma. The poor man was just a fish vendor in the market and was suddenly taken by some police because of someone who stole his identity.

I think this type of problem would have been less if the sites were well established before giving personal information. Not all sites work the same way accessing many websites these days requires entering some personal information. Although most of the information is required to be used on the website, it is better to be careful about giving information. Be sure to read their privacy policy before providing information on websites. Anyone online can become a victim of hacking at any time So everyone should be aware to stay safe online.

[ethereumhunter]

Add the phishing attempts too.
One time I saw a gambler's chat for an attempt of phishing by using a known gambling site's name. I told him to recheck the website address first and not click it and Voila! he saw there was a difference in the name.
These scammers will use any detail that they get and that is why before we pass our KYC information we should also check the address of the site. We should always be keen to look at every detail and not just click anything that is sent to us thru e-mail.
Sometimes, the scammers use bonus rewards, monthly bonuses, and other promos to make it attractive and clickable, and that's where they will get their victims.
Sure, KYC is so hard for many gamblers who want to stay anonymous but somehow this is also a way for us to be secured.

That's one of many things we often don't pay attention to. There is a difference in the name on the site name, so this often fools many people. There are many ways that scammers are used and many of these are old ways that used to be used by veteran scammers but still work to deceive people today.

Scammers most often use promotions that come to our e-mail addresses and those who do not check the e-mail address of the sender may directly click on the link in the e-mail. But it turned out to be a fraudulent link that would redirect to a fraudulent site without people knowing. And it's true that we should always make sure of everything before doing something so that we don't regret it later.

[Hirose UK]

Good point, but even legit casinos (or other businesses) can have customer data information "leaks" which I suspect, a lot of times, could be due to some rogue employees stealing and selling data on the dark market. This happens on all levels, including banks.

I know some people who got their identity stolen because of some leaks in the place where they work and it really turned out bad because they used their identity for cellular fraud and other scam activities. It didn't turn out well and the guy needed to pay lots of money just to clear his name and they never tracked the one who did it. thankfully he is fully cleared now and very careful when it comes to sharing his personal information, he even uses his real name in his social media account due to his past trauma. The poor man was just a fish vendor in the market and was suddenly taken by some police because of someone who stole his identity.

Of the many cases that have occurred we should be able to take the positive side by learning that not all trusted places really have guaranteed security including a casino nor can all of them guarantee the security of what we provide, such as personal identification for KYC.
But you don't need to worry because there are several trusted casinos that you can rely on to maintain every customer security regarding KYC and the balance stored in the bankroll.

Anyone will definitely experience mistakes or bad luck even though they are careful in their actions and we just need to always be vigilant and try not to get into trouble that we don't expect.

[Crypt0Gore]

If there's a casino giving many excuses to not verify the gambler's KYC, it's mean the casino is sketchy and might likely scam. This is why we should gamble on a trusted and reputable in this forum, so when you have this problem, you can contact the representative in this forum, if they not respond or not make you satisfied, you can create an accusation against them.

Pass KYC later isn't a bad idea, not everyone want to verify their account.

I'm lost, if a casino is giving many excuses how will the gambler knew its legit? A casino might reject your identity maybe because the document you submitted are outdated or looks not like original copy, etc, there is no way you can call such platform a scam because they don't pass your verification, I mean, my passport is different from others passport.

Some even have weird national identity cards, I remember using one in 2018 and many exchange used to reject the ID, I don't blame them but I never called them scam, later I got my drivers license and I use that to pass every KYC requirement, never been rejected once.

To me passing KYC later is not a smart idea, if you don't want to verify your account do no make deposit on them, you can have difficulty passing the KYC verification even if the online casino is a very popular platform.

[Fivestar4everMVP]

Good point, but even legit casinos (or other businesses) can have customer data information "leaks" which I suspect, a lot of times, could be due to some rogue employees stealing and selling data on the dark market. This happens on all levels, including banks.

I know some people who got their identity stolen because of some leaks in the place where they work and it really turned out bad because they used their identity for cellular fraud and other scam activities. It didn't turn out well and the guy needed to pay lots of money just to clear his name and they never tracked the one who did it. thankfully he is fully cleared now and very careful when it comes to sharing his personal information, he even uses his real name in his social media account due to his past trauma. The poor man was just a fish vendor in the market and was suddenly taken by some police because of someone who stole his identity.

I think this type of problem would have been less if the sites were well established before giving personal information. Not all sites work the same way accessing many websites these days requires entering some personal information. Although most of the information is required to be used on the website, it is better to be careful about giving information. Be sure to read their privacy policy before providing information on websites. Anyone online can become a victim of hacking at any time So everyone should be aware to stay safe online.

I think he wasn't talking people having their personal information hacked on an individual level, but on a platform like a casino or an exchange, we cant really blame the individual involved in such incident, and beside, any platform can be hacked, no matter how robust the platform is, or how secure, let take for example, when binance was hacked, many of us did not believe that such a thing could happen because of how secure we all assumed binance to be, in that hack, money was stolen, and so also was KYC identities of some customers, the hackers could have as well used those information for some illegal stuff they wanted...

The only thing here is that, gamblers should ensure to only submit their kyc documents to only reputable and trusted casinos, because sometimes, it is even the platform that sells users information to third party for money. 

[Japinat]

If there's a casino giving many excuses to not verify the gambler's KYC, it's mean the casino is sketchy and might likely scam. This is why we should gamble on a trusted and reputable in this forum, so when you have this problem, you can contact the representative in this forum, if they not respond or not make you satisfied, you can create an accusation against them.

Pass KYC later isn't a bad idea, not everyone want to verify their account.

I'm lost, if a casino is giving many excuses how will the gambler knew its legit? A casino might reject your identity maybe because the document you submitted are outdated or looks not like original copy, etc, there is no way you can call such platform a scam because they don't pass your verification, I mean, my passport is different from others passport.

Some even have weird national identity cards, I remember using one in 2018 and many exchange used to reject the ID, I don't blame them but I never called them scam, later I got my drivers license and I use that to pass every KYC requirement, never been rejected once.

Online casinos should be versatile enough to see which document or ID are real, and not just because your passport and their passport have different features. Every people that are living in different countries will of course have different identifications with them, so what you're saying is not really legit or the casino is sketchy. Reputable casinos will leave some remarks on why they rejected your identification so that you will know what's wrong about it.

To me passing KYC later is not a smart idea, if you don't want to verify your account do no make deposit on them, you can have difficulty passing the KYC verification even if the online casino is a very popular platform.

As a gambler should know the risks involved with passing the KYC and not passing the KYC because either move will get you different consequences in time. It's just a matter of perspective or if you're a big time roller.

[Webetcoins]

I've seen a lot of issues like this when there is mandatory KYC. I mean is that if others won, that is where the casino is somewhat not giving your winnings by not passing your KYC. Even though it is already clear and all requirements are there, they probably manipulated it after you've just deposited and won. That is why you should always do the KYC and your winnings will follow, so that it is clear that if the casino won't give your winnings, then it is a complete scam.

maybe for scam casinos it will do this but for reputable casinos i am sure there will be no such manipulation. because reputable casinos usually always ask for KYC earlier, even if its only level 1, to continue making deposits or withdrawals and regarding winnings at casinos, this is actually just about luck, maybe it can be manipulated, but trusted casinos do not that because they prioritize customer satisfaction, so casino not will manipulate regarding the KYC.

I believe it's not always about manipulation, even some of the most reputable and trusted casino platforms wouldn't ask you to complete KYC verification right after joining the platform, and they wouldn't even ask you for it if you are making small deposits and withdrawals as long as they are okay with it, but as soon as you try to deposit a large amount or request a large withdrawal, they will start asking you for completing your KYC verification then.

I say that because I remember that I have been using Stake.com for quite some time and I was never asked for KYC verification because I never made any large deposit nor have I requested any high withdrawal, so I know that even reputable platforms can sometimes be lenient regarding KYC.

[Jocuserious]

All activities including kyc are important if you want to enjoy real casino services. Before opening an account on any gambling site, you should have an idea of ​​which next step will be easy or difficult for you. kyc is mostly used in casinos because gamblers deposit large sums of money or fund them with winnings. However in that case your confidential information is transferred to the second party so that you personally identify the customer to them. It is unknown to me whether your kyc information can be collected by the government of your country or not, but if gambling is acceptable in your country then there should be no problem.

[molsewid]

All activities including kyc are important if you want to enjoy real casino services. Before opening an account on any gambling site, you should have an idea of ​​which next step will be easy or difficult for you. kyc is mostly used in casinos because gamblers deposit large sums of money or fund them with winnings. However in that case your confidential information is transferred to the second party so that you personally identify the customer to them. It is unknown to me whether your kyc information can be collected by the government of your country or not, but if gambling is acceptable in your country then there should be no problem.

Everyone should at least learn to read the T&C or if possible read all of it because we need to know if we can withdraw our funds even though we are not doing a KYC or we could just have KYC first before withdrawing money it is always not the same so we need to carefully be updated in every casino we are dealing with so we would not missed anything or we can have a regret that we did not do KYC before anything else.

[goldkingcoiner]

I don't know where some gamblers are getting their confidence from, do you know that online casinos can keep rejecting your ID after you made some high amount of money? Some people cares about winning first before passing KYC, it's cool you believe that you won't always win but the luck comes when we least expected.

Imagine winning and you find it hard to pass KYC, trapping your money on the casino for like ever.

It's not always the casinos fault, I know some are dubious but the thing is KYC verification is something you should first deal with before making your first deposit.

Online casinos can be frustrating at times, some casino won't accept your submitted document even when you haven't make any deposit on the platform yet, so always confirm your identity first.

Submit your identity and wait for approval, do not be in haste to make deposit first, because the identity you submitted without a green approval from the team can still be rejected, take your time to get the passed approval first before proceeding with gambling.

Yeah passing KYC before doing anything with your new casino account is always the smartest thing to do. That way they cannot later claim you to be a suspicious account and then take months to do the KYC procedure. Even though we know they are just stalling for time, sometimes due to a too high workload or because of incompetence. Either way it leaves the customer (gambler) unsatisfied and frustrated that his KYC procedure is taking so long.

Although, I am personally against KYC if one can avoid it by using a decentralized version of the platform. Although I have not heard of a truly decentralized gambling platform yet. Most "decentralized" casinos are merely claiming to be decentralized as a marketing tactic.

[len01]

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I believe it's not always about manipulation, even some of the most reputable and trusted casino platforms wouldn't ask you to complete KYC verification right after joining the platform, and they wouldn't even ask you for it if you are making small deposits and withdrawals as long as they are okay with it, but as soon as you try to deposit a large amount or request a large withdrawal, they will start asking you for completing your KYC verification then.

I say that because I remember that I have been using Stake.com for quite some time and I was never asked for KYC verification because I never made any large deposit nor have I requested any high withdrawal, so I know that even reputable platforms can sometimes be lenient regarding KYC.

yep, very correct answer. as long as we gamble at a reputable casino or other gambling sites that have good trust when we want to deposit a small amount or withdraw small amount of funds the casino will not ask for KYC verification and I also have accounts at some of the leading gambling sites on this forum and some of they do not require KYC when depositing under $200.

regarding account at Stake.com I remember that some old users who were here have had accounts for a long time and even until now they have not been asked for KYC when depositing and withdrawing any amount because this casino seems to really value old customers.

what is certain is that as long as we do not violate casino rules or cheat, usually we not be asked for KYC with a very long verification as I said before.

[maydna]

All activities including kyc are important if you want to enjoy real casino services. Before opening an account on any gambling site, you should have an idea of ​​which next step will be easy or difficult for you. kyc is mostly used in casinos because gamblers deposit large sums of money or fund them with winnings. However in that case your confidential information is transferred to the second party so that you personally identify the customer to them. It is unknown to me whether your kyc information can be collected by the government of your country or not, but if gambling is acceptable in your country then there should be no problem.

That is why before someone registers at a casino, they must read the terms and regulations of the casino. They can also contact the support service to find out what the KYC procedure is or whether the casino requires KYC after they deposit big money or when they get a big win. But if you don't want to do KYC, you don't need to use the casino to gamble, but look for another casino on this forum. The casino will store your KYC information, and if necessary, then your information will be submitted to the government for further investigation, whether you have been or are related to illegal activity or are you clean of anything.

[Westinhome]

All activities including kyc are important if you want to enjoy real casino services. Before opening an account on any gambling site, you should have an idea of ​​which next step will be easy or difficult for you. kyc is mostly used in casinos because gamblers deposit large sums of money or fund them with winnings. However in that case your confidential information is transferred to the second party so that you personally identify the customer to them. It is unknown to me whether your kyc information can be collected by the government of your country or not, but if gambling is acceptable in your country then there should be no problem.

It’s important to do the kyc at the time of registering to the site,because the features was open to the person who May completed the three was of kyc.The basic kyc to deposit into the website,the selfie kyc as the second level of KYC.The video recording of the kyc to the website was third level of kyc.This kyc with video can be misused by the gambling site,if they are not real.It’s most important factor for the gambler to verify the data of gambling site before giving their valuable kyc with video verification.The scam gambling site will sell your kyc with video verification to the secondary agents.The secondary agent will sell to the tertiary black society.

[TobeyHolo]

Online casinos must adhere to strict KYC (Know Your Customer) procedures to combat money laundering and other illicit activities like arbing and bonus abuse. However, many customers dislike these protocols such as signing up KYC before playing, preferring more streamlined processes. This resistance often prompts online platforms to implement more rigorous KYC checks only during withdrawals. This approach aims to strike a balance between regulatory compliance and customer preference.

[Nazmul012]

There is a reason for not completing the kyc first. Actually casinos and gambling websites are keep offering bonus daily to draw attention and let people join to their platform. So to take advantage of this offer of free money or free spins, some gambler keep creating accounts on so many websites and not possible to pass kyc in every websites .so l decide to pass kyc later, only if they can win big amount from free spins or bonus. And when they finally win something big, they casinos and websites make them trouble by not accepting kyc or asking more documents which wasn't mentioned on their websites

[bitcrystal]

its something that is common and people just do it maybe because they feel they will pass it when the time comes and then when that time comes it becomes difficult. many of these websites make it mandatory to pass kyc and even for you to have access to some features. but people usually dont read the terms and condition and just in haste to sign up and make deposit. its good to ensure you pass kyc before making deposit especially if you want to stick to a particular website.

[Solosanz]

There is a reason for not completing the kyc first. Actually casinos and gambling websites are keep offering bonus daily to draw attention and let people join to their platform. So to take advantage of this offer of free money or free spins, some gambler keep creating accounts on so many websites and not possible to pass kyc in every websites .so l decide to pass kyc later, only if they can win big amount from free spins or bonus. And when they finally win something big, they casinos and websites make them trouble by not accepting kyc or asking more documents which wasn't mentioned on their websites

Because you're already playing with many accounts in the first place and most of casinos are forbid multiple accounts usage. If you blame them for not accepting your KYC or asking more documents that make you not able to give it, do you think you're correct for gamble using multiple accounts?

There's always a reason behind every action.