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August 21, 2023, 08:16:47 PM |
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I don't see this as a serious cause for concern, OP. I mean, who doesn't like the taste of winning? You found a means to have enjoyed a steady win and you are indecisive about trying the VIP package because you are still scared of being scammed? Candidly, you can try not to gamble at all for a change.
It's true that scammers do use such telegram medium to do damage, but it doesn't stop the legit once from offering their services too.
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August 21, 2023, 08:53:24 PM |
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sure it is nice to experience winning but what happens if you started losing again? if it were me I would take a step back and think carefully about what to do next, being in the right mindset before continuing to gamble is one of the best things gamblers should consider if they plan on gambling again. ,
anyway, I am curious about the name of the channel, and also what sports leagues are they betting on.
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August 21, 2023, 09:09:32 PM |
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What do you all think i should do?
I don't know, the problem is that you are betting your money not our money, so it has to depend on your beliefs and whether you are willing to take the risk or not. But remember that most scams have schemes, patterns and strategies like that, they provide or hold free games that are easy to win with a limited time then if you want to keep playing you have to pay a certain amount of money to become a VIP member. I think it's a kind of strategy to entice someone to trust their services more. By giving someone an easy win first to gain that person's trust. But actually you can count on it. Did you get more wins while you were following their service than the amount of money they asked to become a VIP member?. If it's more money you get then you can give it a try but if it's not worth your winnings then I think it's best to avoid it or don't need to continue with them.
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August 21, 2023, 09:16:08 PM |
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What do you all think i should do? If you know football well enough and enjoy it, then you should be able to do your own analysis of a match. You don't need to spend more money to pay for other people's predictions on the bet you will make, that is not a sure solution to winning the bet. Let's just say that winning and losing is part of gambling, but you have to be able to control yourself enough that you shouldn't gamble on every match. Choose a game that you think has a chance of winning, even if the odds aren't as good as you expected. Of course this can help you win something while enjoying the game with your friends. After all, you don't have to win 100%, this is because you are gambling.
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August 21, 2023, 09:19:07 PM |
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What you got was a sign to leave permanently and never to try gambling your funds anymore but, you didn't really plan on that since you'd not even reconcile a thought to go back if you did. I cannot give an advice that's gonna be vindictive to my personality tomorrow....pertaining the choice of whether or not to keep gambling; I don't wanna be a reason why you lost even more funds than you thought. Infact, upgrading to the VIP section should be an option you'd totally make on your own.
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August 21, 2023, 09:41:36 PM |
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What do you all think i should do? If you know football well enough and enjoy it, then you should be able to do your own analysis of a match. You don't need to spend more money to pay for other people's predictions on the bet you will make, that is not a sure solution to winning the bet. Let's just say that winning and losing is part of gambling, but you have to be able to control yourself enough that you shouldn't gamble on every match. Choose a game that you think has a chance of winning, even if the odds aren't as good as you expected. Of course this can help you win something while enjoying the game with your friends. After all, you don't have to win 100%, this is because you are gambling. Yes, if you are really that having that interest on football or basketball then making out bets would be entertaining and enjoyable if those bets made out by your own analysis and not from others because if you are really that finding yourself that having a losing streak or having that negative profits on your bets then it does mean that you arent good on making analysis but doesnt mean that you cant alter out the way you do behave on choosing those teams or players. Its not really that enjoyable or entertaining if you are longing just for positive or negative outcome basing up on others choices on which it does really erase or remove out that real essence of entertainment when it comes to betting or gambling itself which this should really be your main priority and not really that minding about making that as an income because it doesnt really fit out and this one would really be making you that desperate when it comes to this point. You should really know on distinguishing if you are playing for fun or playing for profits seriously.
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August 21, 2023, 09:52:52 PM |
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sure it is nice to experience winning but what happens if you started losing again? if it were me I would take a step back and think carefully about what to do next, being in the right mindset before continuing to gamble is one of the best things gamblers should consider if they plan on gambling again. ,
anyway, I am curious about the name of the channel, and also what sports leagues are they betting on.
Op need to think deeply before ever thinking of becoming a custom to gambling because things might get worse later. Gambling is something that we all expect to get winning but what about if the luck of winning a bet is no more there, what do you think will happen to him that is thinking of going deeply into gambling to the extend of getting a VIP role. We should not put all our hope in gambling because it has it own risk and we might get disappointed at the end if we don't take a deep breath and perus what we tend to gain if the worse happens to us.
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August 21, 2023, 09:59:33 PM |
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I have been into sports betting for a while now and i am not really proud of my earliest experience in gambling, i feel like i am the most unlucky person in the world i lost a lot of games and also i lost a lot of money. Maybe you need time to also listen to other people's experience in gambling to know that you're not the one having this particular feelings with gambling, but before we ay proceed further maybe you should define the kind of gambler you're, are you really betting to make money and have your dependency on it or you're gambling for fun, this will help you know how to channel your want from your needs knowing the particular kind of gambler you are, then probably you will need to start changing games, maybe you could try out new categories for more better opportunities.
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August 21, 2023, 10:27:55 PM |
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If you know about how these so called telegram channels are more of scammers groups trying to find more victims and if they are making such claims that they can help you win in such gambling related activities then leave them and use your own experience and skills to understand the games and win with more strategies.I have seen so many scams in telegram but there might be some legit one's also but do proper research about it.
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August 21, 2023, 10:51:55 PM |
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According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.
What do you all think i should do?
Do you really need advice for something that is already an obvious thing to do? You mentioned that you have knowledge about the sports you are picking with. It's just that even with your knowledge, you are on a losing streak. Therefore, just continue until such time that you know reach the stage where you can cope now on your own. You also mentioned that you are in doubt about this type of subscription but you won at some following their picks. Therefore, don't subscribe to avoid being confused. Trust yourself. You can cope on your own and believe in that. It's impossible that you can't after being used to doing that thing. If you really can't, then leave gambling for good.
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August 21, 2023, 10:58:33 PM |
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Well seeing as you've had a good experience with it, if the cost doesn't burn that big of a hole in your pocket, I reckon it would be fine to try it out no? I reckon they're on a monthly/yearly subscription basis so maybe you can try it out for a month if you're really interested. Personally though I wouldn't go for such channels, sports gambling is in the end, knowledge about the game and the players. If you were an avid fan of the game, then you'd inevitably know majority of the good players. Heck, even joining random discussions could grow knowledge in you about the ongoing events and top players. It's just a matter of analyzing these tiny details for you to be able to win or lose in a game imo.
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August 21, 2023, 11:21:46 PM |
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Some months later i came across a telegram channel and i joined, it was a gambling channel that posted free sports bets for its users and there is also a VIP section where users subscribe for some sure games. I am well aware of all these techniques used by scammers so I decided to observe the channel and follow up games posted and I discovered he won most of the games and had about 80% victory rate. Then after some time I decided to try my luck again so I played one of his games and i won i was so happy and it was as though the curse placed on me has been lifted and I tried some more games and i won again and again and since the beginning of the new season i only lost twice and i am now proud of my gambling achievements.
According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.
What do you all think i should do?
After all those wins coming from free tips, you still do not trust the people in that group so how come? if you have doubts then don't, free sports bets are being offered to check how good they are at giving tips to their members if you think that these free bets are not worth it, then nothing will. If the VIP is not worth the price based on their average win ratio then its not worth it, the purpose of the groups is to help bettors get into winning but unfortunately there's no such thing as free lunch you have to decide if you want their tips or not or can it help you to win more and those free bets that you've got are what will decide.
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August 21, 2023, 11:50:27 PM |
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According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.
What do you all think i should do?
I have never joined any predictions social media group but I have heard the good, bad, and ugly stories from people that have joined such groups. The decision is up to you based on your experience with them. From your narration, they seem to give accurate bets since you have been winning consistently and lost in a few cases. Another factor is how much they are asking to join the VIP group. If the money is not too much then you can risk and pay after all you have benefited from free services. But if the fees are high you have to consider if the money is worth the service they propose to offer. Give them only what you can afford to lose because most of them are not trustworthy. I will also suggest that you learn how to analyze games and make predictions. This is because many of these platforms are handled by people with questionable characters.
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noorman0
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August 22, 2023, 01:28:25 AM |
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Is the entire history of betting wins during the season thanks to that telegram channel's "winning hint"? What if you think of it as trying a new type of betting, you pay for a subscription while you don't know whether it will end up being a scam or not. I hope the subscription fee is equal to the value of each of your bets which before you are used to losing.
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bisdak40
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August 22, 2023, 02:04:18 AM |
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~snip~ What do you all think i should do?
There are just times when we feel like we are cursed, experienced that one also that i think bookies were playing with me but it is just part of the game, i mean this is gambling and you might lost all your bet or win it all, or win just above 50 percent, we never know. About that VIP in the telegram, i don't think it is good to subscribe to that one because that is just the same as the regular channel and it is like you let someone gamble your money with a fee which is unfair because it is not a sure win. If i were you, i would just stick to the regular telegram channel and observe what's their strategies and might as well follow.
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wiss19
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August 22, 2023, 02:48:14 AM |
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I wouldn't tell you to join or not join the VIP channel of that guy but I can throw my 2 cents about your situation and my opinion and suggestion about that. You said that you have knowledge and also experience with football and basketball, and when a person has knowledge about a certain sport, they tend to understand all the teams and the players and their past and most recent records, etc. In that case, if you were losing, it wasn't your fault but it was just a bad phase of your journey.
That being said, I believe you can still do it on your own if you start doing a bit of research and you will need to do that very less if you already watch all the games and are always updated about the particular sports you bet on. So, it's totally up to you if you want to pay someone to give you signals or do a little bit of work and do it yourself.
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Bitcoin_people
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August 22, 2023, 03:01:19 AM |
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I think betting in gambling is mainly based on luck otherwise you lose money even if you are so experienced. I gambled for a few days but played many times in the first position and won but later lost all my money. In fact gambling can never change a person's future plans rather he loses the money he invests there. After a few gambling losses, one can no longer control oneself over betting, instead one blames oneself for repeatedly losing bets. If you want to gamble after seeing your friends winning bets then you don't do it at all, you are more likely to lose money and become addicted to gambling. Your friends may have good luck due to which they win the bet but you may not have good luck and some of you lose the bet. If you are lucky then it is possible to win big bets, sometimes you win big money but most of the time you have to lose money. So you keep doing good research about gambling and gain more experience maybe then in future you will reach your goal of winning bets.
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August 22, 2023, 03:18:55 AM |
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first of all gambling is always closer to luck even in sports betting but luck still plays an important role here.
next, if you have some knowledge the sports you bet on I think you should at least win a few times. from my experience since first time I learned to know the sport I want to bet on at least a few times to win because choosing the underdog can sometimes make our bet win and if you always lose my question is do you bet on underdog team or do you bet on something else like handicap etc.?
I doubt if you know sports knowledge you bet a lot but you always lose it seems like you are so unlucky. but in my experience and the principles that I built myself its better for you to do your own prediction analysis to place your bet and VIP group that you know you can take as a consideration whether your analysis is correct and you should still choose to bet from your own predictions it will be far more appropriate for me.
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August 22, 2023, 04:13:24 AM |
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I have been into sports betting for a while now and i am not really proud of my earliest experience in gambling, i feel like i am the most unlucky person in the world i lost a lot of games and also i lost a lot of money.
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Some months later i came across a telegram channel and i joined, it was a gambling channel that posted free sports bets for its users and there is also a VIP section where users subscribe for some sure games. I am well aware of all these techniques used by scammers so I decided to observe the channel and follow up games posted and I discovered he won most of the games and had about 80% victory rate.
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According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.
What do you all think i should do?
I know you won't listen to me but what I would do if I were you is to quit gambling. The experience you've had is bad enough, and for you to want to continue is to dig yourself an even bigger hole. If that has happened to you in sports betting where theoretically there is an edge you can get, then you were doing something wrong, betting too much money that you didn't really need or something like that. I'm guessing you're going to pay for the premium on that channel and end up getting ripped off or gambling more than you should and following that same self destructive pattern you reflect in the OP.
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Strongkored
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August 22, 2023, 05:05:33 AM |
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What do you all think i should do?
Dunno, I've never followed a channel like that even though its free, and I'm also not really sure if you'll actually earn when logging into their VIP channel, however, I think you should consider a lot of things. First, how much does it cost you to be able to join their VIP channel? Secondly, with the cost you have to spend, how long can you stay a VIP member on the channel? Third, how much capital will you use in each of your bets? I mean why say this because I think it would be worthless at all, if you have to pay a VIP channel fee of $100/month and you can only use capital below or equal to the cost you spend to become a member of the channel unless you use considerable capital. Maybe you currently see the channel so useful it can make your bets green but remember sports betting can also experience the opposite, where in the end you will only get defeat after defeat because it turns out that the owner of the channel is not in a good state of predicting, and for some reason I feel that those who have such a channel are the same as the owners of the paid signal channel in trading, they are just trying to get money in other ways because they understand that gambling will always have a risk of losing.
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