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October 09, 2023, 04:24:46 PM
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Be cautious. Recognize that gambling has a significant risk of losing money in addition to the fleeting satisfaction that comes with winning. Every time. Always ask yourself if the rewards truly outweigh the risks and investments.
Not many gamblers want to understand the risks in gambling, if only they managed to understand the losses and knew the risks well, there would certainly not be many who would be addicted to gambling, because most gambling addicts start from those who don't understand the risks so they don't like losing and losing money so they continue to gamble to get back the money they have lost in gambling.

Unfortunately, gamblers nowadays find it easier to become addicts because they never want to know about the risks of gambling. That's why I always remind beginners that gambling is not just for making money and a quick way to get rich, but a place where you play with the risk of losing money, but mostly they ignore it.
A lot of people don't get things until they experience them themselves, and before they get to experience something themselves whether it's a loss or anything, they will simply keep ignoring the advice and everything given by others because they think that others might be wrong and the experience might not be as what they are describing. However, at the end of the day, when they see it themselves, that is when they regret that they should have listened.

I used to stop people and advise them about gambling and the addiction and that they can't really earn money from it and will eventually lose, but after some time, I realized that it's useless and I'm wasting my time and energy on something that isn't going to give me anything. If they don't want to listen, let them face the consequences and they will eventually understand.

The fact is that many people misunderstand the meaning of gambling and gambling in general. You need to have the right attitude to these matters, and it consists in getting pleasure from gambling and not thinking about earning money. That's what professional psychologists with a gambling specialization usually say. At the moment when a person is jealous of someone's success, or he gets a lot of money from gambling thanks to luck, this person begins to think that this is how you can earn. But this is a big mistake.
Hence the conclusion - if someone can't stop thinking about gambling as a job with getting money, he is most likely a problem gambler.

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October 12, 2023, 05:19:21 AM
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The fact is that many people misunderstand the meaning of gambling and gambling in general. You need to have the right attitude to these matters, and it consists in getting pleasure from gambling and not thinking about earning money. That's what professional psychologists with a gambling specialization usually say. At the moment when a person is jealous of someone's success, or he gets a lot of money from gambling thanks to luck, this person begins to think that this is how you can earn. But this is a big mistake.
Hence the conclusion - if someone can't stop thinking about gambling as a job with getting money, he is most likely a problem gambler.
It is difficult to know what those people are thinking, as a misunderstanding would imply they looked for some information about how gambling works and then they understood wrongly what it is about, I really think the majority of the problem gamblers never did this, and instead they created their own expectations out of gambling, and even if at some point they read the information that it is impossible to beat the casinos, their previous false beliefs are so deeply ingrained on their minds that they cannot help to think they can find a way to become profitable anyway.
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October 12, 2023, 05:44:07 AM
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Unfortunately, gamblers nowadays find it easier to become addicts because they never want to know about the risks of gambling. That's why I always remind beginners that gambling is not just for making money and a quick way to get rich, but a place where you play with the risk of losing money, but mostly they ignore it.

Also gamblers nowadays are more exposed to gambling than it was in the past because gambling has become very easy to access that you can gamble online with your phones. This is why we're having more addicts now as there's no restrictions to how they gamble. It depends on the individuals to discipline ourselves and protect ourselves against addiction by restricting how we gamble, not chasing losses by revenge gambling as most individual are doing.
Yes, there is some truth in what you say, the more advanced technology nowadays and the ease of gambling using cellphones certainly makes more gamblers become addicts, because this convenience is what triggers them to gamble without limits just by sitting relaxed at home and being able to gamble using their cellphones, maybe If gambling couldn't be accessed on mobile phones it might be easier to stop gambling and get rid of the addiction.

There are a lot of gamblers nowadays who are young people and there are also underage people who gamble. Most of those I saw use their cellphones to gamble because the convenience is what seems to make them become gamblers. This should be the government's attention to limiting this as well so that there aren't too many child gamblers. Underage children access gambling with their cellphones and it is also a concern for parents to prevent their children from gambling.

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October 12, 2023, 12:06:25 PM
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A lot of people don't get things until they experience them themselves, and before they get to experience something themselves whether it's a loss or anything, they will simply keep ignoring the advice and everything given by others because they think that others might be wrong and the experience might not be as what they are describing. However, at the end of the day, when they see it themselves, that is when they regret that they should have listened.

I used to stop people and advise them about gambling and the addiction and that they can't really earn money from it and will eventually lose, but after some time, I realized that it's useless and I'm wasting my time and energy on something that isn't going to give me anything. If they don't want to listen, let them face the consequences and they will eventually understand.
If you can stop people and advise them about gambling and addiction, you will help them avoid losing, especially if they don't have good self-control, which can trigger them to gamble continuously. This will be useful for them because when they are addicted to gambling, they will no longer be able to be advised by anyone. If they can be advised, it will not be easy for them to accept because they will be resistant before they finally accept it.

But if they can take advice from other people, that's good because at least they still care about themselves. They want to prevent themselves from experiencing loss and becoming addicted to gambling. That means we have really helped them to avoid problems that can arise from gambling.

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October 12, 2023, 12:35:57 PM
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I have been into sports betting for a while now and i am not really proud of my earliest experience in gambling, i feel like i am the most unlucky person in the world i lost a lot of games and also i lost a lot of money. I had knowledge about football and basketball games and they were my most picked games and even so I kept losing all my bets and even when i try to play safe i still end up losing and whenever i ask my friends for games we still end up losing the bet then i got tired and in the end i gave up and tried to quit gambling and I left it for some months. During this period my friends made a lot of money gambling and i was envious of them but it didn’t made me change my mind to start gambling over again.

Some months later i came across a telegram channel and i joined, it was a gambling channel that posted free sports bets for its users and there is also a VIP section where users subscribe for some sure games. I am well aware of all these techniques used by scammers so I decided to observe the channel and follow up games posted and I discovered he won most of the games and had about 80% victory rate. Then after some time I decided to try my luck again so I played one of his games and i won i was so happy and it was as though the curse placed on me has been lifted and I tried some more games and i won again and again and since the beginning of the new season i only lost twice and i am now proud of my gambling achievements.

According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

 What do you all think i should do?
Its up to you since its your money to be used up on and if you do see that it did really spark out your interest on playing gambling again and this what makes you happy then it would really be that better that you should follow on what your heart tells you. The only thing that you should really be reminded of is on how to have that good self control towards spending with the gambling session that you are dealing with. Majority of people would really be that getting lost of the track on the time that they do become impulsive because of gambling and spending their money is really that out of control on which it do really end up on a disaster.
Seems like that you do have that kind of control on  stopping midway then i could say that it should be fine. Why not really just try out and see for yourself if you are really that satisfied on that group that you are engaging into? If it does give out that kind of impression that you are being that freed from curse then so be it and test it out on how long it would last.

If you do find yourself getting enjoyed and happy then go ahead. Dont let other people would really be the reason for them to hinder you out on the things that you do want or like to do.
Somewhat majority of us would really be sticking into those basic principles in life and this is why we could really be able to say such things on which it isnt really that bad
to consider it out.

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October 12, 2023, 12:45:38 PM
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A lot of people don't get things until they experience them themselves, and before they get to experience something themselves whether it's a loss or anything, they will simply keep ignoring the advice and everything given by others because they think that others might be wrong and the experience might not be as what they are describing. However, at the end of the day, when they see it themselves, that is when they regret that they should have listened.

I used to stop people and advise them about gambling and the addiction and that they can't really earn money from it and will eventually lose, but after some time, I realized that it's useless and I'm wasting my time and energy on something that isn't going to give me anything. If they don't want to listen, let them face the consequences and they will eventually understand.
If you can stop people and advise them about gambling and addiction, you will help them avoid losing, especially if they don't have good self-control, which can trigger them to gamble continuously. This will be useful for them because when they are addicted to gambling, they will no longer be able to be advised by anyone. If they can be advised, it will not be easy for them to accept because they will be resistant before they finally accept it.

But if they can take advice from other people, that's good because at least they still care about themselves. They want to prevent themselves from experiencing loss and becoming addicted to gambling. That means we have really helped them to avoid problems that can arise from gambling.

Yes if you can do that it's great, because those who are addicted will be helped a lot by some of your suggestions, but I think for those who are already addicted it might be very difficult, because as we know they have their own mindset in gambling, and obviously their perspective in seeing it is far from normal, in the sense that usually they are too excessive so that they can enter the addiction phase. So for those who are already addicted, maybe you need a lot of time or hard work so that the advice you give them can be accepted well, as you said that they can no longer be advised. It's okay if you want to advise them with the aim of helping because it's quite good, so with you I hope they will consider some of the advice you give especially in the problem of losing.

It's quite difficult but that doesn't mean it's impossible, that way maybe they will realize slowly. And well usually those gamblers who are already addicted must first feel a significant downturn before finally thinking that this is really a bad habit that only causes a lot of problems, so after they experience that I think there is a chance of awareness for them to stop.

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October 12, 2023, 01:01:13 PM
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At the moment when a person is jealous of someone's success, or he gets a lot of money from gambling thanks to luck, this person begins to think that this is how you can earn.
They mostly get a bias effect where they think one of few successful gamblers are representing if gambling will make them rich. They forget if maybe only 1% is become rich in gambling and 99% of gamblers are lose.

However sometime I don't understand why someone is jealous of someone's success, they should realize if working hard and luck are the reason behind that.

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I have been into sports betting for a while now and i am not really proud of my earliest experience in gambling, i feel like i am the most unlucky person in the world i lost a lot of games and also i lost a lot of money. I had knowledge about football and basketball games and they were my most picked games and even so I kept losing all my bets and even when i try to play safe i still end up losing and whenever i ask my friends for games we still end up losing the bet then i got tired and in the end i gave up and tried to quit gambling and I left it for some months. During this period my friends made a lot of money gambling and i was envious of them but it didn’t made me change my mind to start gambling over again.
You are not alone in this kind of story, most of us here who participate in gambling have one or two stories to tell of our experiences we have faced with gambling.

Most of the time we lose the game isn't because we are not lucky but because we are doing it all wrong, and it makes sense at some point to change our betting strategy and try out new ways.

Therefore, From what you have said regarding joining a telegram channel that shares quality football tips and having you follow their tips and achieve some positive results, I suggest you do further research by pming other members of the group for transparency of the channel and after you have done proper research and you are satisfied with your findings about the channel, you can give it a trial as life is all about risk, IMO. If you succeed you win and if lose you, you learn.

 
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October 12, 2023, 01:55:12 PM
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I have been into sports betting for a while now and i am not really proud of my earliest experience in gambling, i feel like i am the most unlucky person in the world i lost a lot of games and also i lost a lot of money. I had knowledge about football and basketball games and they were my most picked games and even so I kept losing all my bets and even when i try to play safe i still end up losing and whenever i ask my friends for games we still end up losing the bet then i got tired and in the end i gave up and tried to quit gambling and I left it for some months. During this period my friends made a lot of money gambling and i was envious of them but it didn’t made me change my mind to start gambling over again.

Some months later i came across a telegram channel and i joined, it was a gambling channel that posted free sports bets for its users and there is also a VIP section where users subscribe for some sure games. I am well aware of all these techniques used by scammers so I decided to observe the channel and follow up games posted and I discovered he won most of the games and had about 80% victory rate. Then after some time I decided to try my luck again so I played one of his games and i won i was so happy and it was as though the curse placed on me has been lifted and I tried some more games and i won again and again and since the beginning of the new season i only lost twice and i am now proud of my gambling achievements.

According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

 What do you all think i should do?

If that's how you feel, don't continue. It's that simple; it's just like this: if you see a hole in the ship that will eventually sink, why would you board it? You're lucky if you've experienced winning there before, and I also think that it's like you've just been bitten and your trust in them is taken completely, and when they see that, they'll suddenly demand a large amount from you.

That's the strategy of the scammers: they will take care of their prospects first; they will also take the risk of winning you; and when they see that you really trust them, they will demand a large amount from you because they will use it. The ticket is the one you experienced, and you won what they gave you. So be careful, no matter what.

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At the moment when a person is jealous of someone's success, or he gets a lot of money from gambling thanks to luck, this person begins to think that this is how you can earn.
They mostly get a bias effect where they think one of few successful gamblers are representing if gambling will make them rich. They forget if maybe only 1% is become rich in gambling and 99% of gamblers are lose.

However sometime I don't understand why someone is jealous of someone's success, they should realize if working hard and luck are the reason behind that.
The truth about gambling and success attached to gambling is that over 80% of gamblers are losers while 15% are successful in it while the remaining 5% are always getting back whatever they lose and that's why gambling shouldn't be seen as avenue to make a good living or to become successful in life. No matter how strategic one tries to be in gambling, there are more chances of losing than winning

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October 12, 2023, 02:09:53 PM
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According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

If you think that you have their trust in mind and believe they cannot do and undo, then go ahead with them to continue to the advanced stage, but before that, maybe you should also consider the numbers of times and years you've all being together with each other, then realized the level of commitment you had with each other, also to me i don't think being on the VIP list has more advantage since you all bear the same risk together to win or loose and you're qualify to be among the VIP base on the fact that you spend alot on gambling.

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October 12, 2023, 03:03:08 PM
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What exactly is the difference between those who create telegram channels to share sport bet tips and signals and those who just accept them hook-line-and-sinker? The difference I see here is that the admin of the group who shares this tips put in the work while The others who can also put in the work just decides to be consumers. This is not hard to learn because you already have some level of experience and you can gather knowledge about it and do your own betting yourself.

Everyone has a losing experience tale to tell and yours is no different but you should not be beaten down by yours that you are afraid to get back up. Losing is part of the game and winning is also part of the game but all of them is all about strategy and that is what I feel that you are missing out on.

I tell you success in sports betting is a marathon and not a sprint more like the iron Man marathon.

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According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

If you think that you have their trust in mind and believe they cannot do and undo, then go ahead with them to continue to the advanced stage, but before that, maybe you should also consider the numbers of times and years you've all being together with each other, then realized the level of commitment you had with each other, also to me i don't think being on the VIP list has more advantage since you all bear the same risk together to win or loose and you're qualify to be among the VIP base on the fact that you spend alot on gambling.

    -   It's also hard to trust that, especially in telegram group channels. We know that these apps are often used by scammers, to be honest. Unless you have a known person on the Telegram channel.

Then why would you play there on Telegram? It's better to play on the website of a casino, and at least there you can see for yourself what the TOS and other features are on their gambling platform instead of something like that that might happen to you, which is not good for the capital that you will use for gambling.

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What exactly is the difference between those who create telegram channels to share sport bet tips and signals and those who just accept them hook-line-and-sinker? The difference I see here is that the admin of the group who shares this tips put in the work while The others who can also put in the work just decides to be consumers. This is not hard to learn because you already have some level of experience and you can gather knowledge about it and do your own betting yourself.

Everyone has a losing experience tale to tell and yours is no different but you should not be beaten down by yours that you are afraid to get back up. Losing is part of the game and winning is also part of the game but all of them is all about strategy and that is what I feel that you are missing out on.

I tell you success in sports betting is a marathon and not a sprint more like the iron Man marathon.


People want success in sportbetting in a sprint and not a marathon, there is where the most errors and mistakes come from. People do not trust their own intuition and experience, so they try to rely on other people they find in the internet.

The fact is that noone in a telegram group would share their strategy for free, if we talk on actual good strategies to score some money, and there are more scammers than actual tipsters in that messaging platform.  

In my opinion, people new to the world of betting (specially when comes to sports), should not see their initial loses as an absolute loss but rather than an investment in the own personal experience, so can have a better idea on how to bet in the future. Nobody is born being a professional bettor.

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October 12, 2023, 05:17:33 PM
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At the moment when a person is jealous of someone's success, or he gets a lot of money from gambling thanks to luck, this person begins to think that this is how you can earn.
They mostly get a bias effect where they think one of few successful gamblers are representing if gambling will make them rich. They forget if maybe only 1% is become rich in gambling and 99% of gamblers are lose.

However sometime I don't understand why someone is jealous of someone's success, they should realize if working hard and luck are the reason behind that.

Even casino managers admit that often the best advertisement is if someone's friend has earned money on bets, then this someone starts to think that he is smarter. He can earn even more with his knowledge. After that, the first bet occurs, the first luck, and that's how a new casino or betting player appears.
People are envious by nature, and I'm sure you know stories when even close relatives of brothers or sisters quarreled over inheritance or someone else's success, unfortunately, in life-this is a frequent occurrence outside of gambling.

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According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

 What do you all think i should do?
If you must join then do so with the money you made from the bets you have won so far since the beginning of the season else if you use your hard earned money to play you most likely may regret if the VIP turns out counter productive as the free channel has been all along but then if you use the money you have won all along it will most likely feel like retuning back their money to them.

But then I must say coming back after a long time has some danger attached and if you are not careful addiction isn't far from you so be careful and make sure to reduce your greed level and apply contempt in that if you know you can no longer afford or keep up with the VIP do not allow yourself to be enticed as this is a game of luck although applying strategy could help reduce your chances of loss which I think is what they are doing in that Chanel, they have a strategy with which they put up game so they win more often than they loose.

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October 12, 2023, 09:58:33 PM
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According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

If you think that you have their trust in mind and believe they cannot do and undo, then go ahead with them to continue to the advanced stage, but before that, maybe you should also consider the numbers of times and years you've all being together with each other, then realized the level of commitment you had with each other, also to me i don't think being on the VIP list has more advantage since you all bear the same risk together to win or loose and you're qualify to be among the VIP base on the fact that you spend alot on gambling.
Yes, I totally agree with you on what you just said above, because just as I earlier asked O.P that how much profit did he make during his/her 1 month free game prediction, and likewise how many game odds was provided during the free period, which he/she is yet to response to my comment. As those are basic criteria to help O.P determine if to pay for subscription or not base on how much profit he may have made. If not, I still doubt that there exist a telegram subscription channel that provide fixed game odds that actually works.

 
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October 12, 2023, 11:01:05 PM
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According to the channel free games are limited and we can only enjoy for a month and now the month is almost over and only VIPs will be entitled to games when the month elapses. I have been having doubts whether to join the VIP zone because I don’t want to be scammed that’s why i want to know your opinions.

 What do you all think i should do?

There are two options for you here. Either you can continue for free in the channel, although they will post limited games there. If that was a trial period, and you cannot remain in the group for free, then you can choose to join the paid group depending upon the fee of the group. You have already won a few bets by getting signals from that group, so why not buy the membership using the profit money?

Although I do not like these VIP paid memberships betting signals groups, but since you had a good experience and also your own analysis mostly led to the lost in bet, so why not use the service and gain some money?
It’s for you to decide mate. But as for me, if you have proven it to yourself that this channel is somewhat reliable for all your profits, then why not take the risk? You have made decent profits from your previous bets so I don’t think it will be a loss for you if you try one. Good thing here is you did not jump on your decision, at least you try to observe the channel first and win some bets, so I guess it will be a good try to buy the membership and let’s see what will happen next.

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October 12, 2023, 11:18:31 PM
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At the moment when a person is jealous of someone's success, or he gets a lot of money from gambling thanks to luck, this person begins to think that this is how you can earn.
They mostly get a bias effect where they think one of few successful gamblers are representing if gambling will make them rich. They forget if maybe only 1% is become rich in gambling and 99% of gamblers are lose.

However sometime I don't understand why someone is jealous of someone's success, they should realize if working hard and luck are the reason behind that.

Even casino managers admit that often the best advertisement is if someone's friend has earned money on bets, then this someone starts to think that he is smarter. He can earn even more with his knowledge. After that, the first bet occurs, the first luck, and that's how a new casino or betting player appears.
People are envious by nature, and I'm sure you know stories when even close relatives of brothers or sisters quarreled over inheritance or someone else's success, unfortunately, in life-this is a frequent occurrence outside of gambling.

That is true. If you're surrounded by friends who are eager to earn money and they find out that you're actually making something off of your gambling habits, they might even consider gambling just because you're doing it and you're getting something from it. It's like they don't want to get one-upped by you in terms of money making and they'll think that they can do better, when in reality you just had your lucky streaks and you often lose in gambling.

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October 13, 2023, 07:00:05 AM
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Yes if you can do that it's great, because those who are addicted will be helped a lot by some of your suggestions, but I think for those who are already addicted it might be very difficult, because as we know they have their own mindset in gambling, and obviously their perspective in seeing it is far from normal, in the sense that usually they are too excessive so that they can enter the addiction phase. So for those who are already addicted, maybe you need a lot of time or hard work so that the advice you give them can be accepted well, as you said that they can no longer be advised. It's okay if you want to advise them with the aim of helping because it's quite good, so with you I hope they will consider some of the advice you give especially in the problem of losing.

It's quite difficult but that doesn't mean it's impossible, that way maybe they will realize slowly. And well usually those gamblers who are already addicted must first feel a significant downturn before finally thinking that this is really a bad habit that only causes a lot of problems, so after they experience that I think there is a chance of awareness for them to stop.
People who are addicted to gambling may not be aware of their addiction even if their addiction becomes more severe. People around him can detect when his addiction is worsening because there may be signs that he will show to other people, but the gambler is unaware of it. This requires a response from the people closest to him to start approaching him and trying to talk to him. Maybe he has difficulty expressing or telling the story but slowly, by finding the right approach, he can start telling the story. And it will require more attention from the people around him to care about what he is experiencing and try to lend a hand to help the gambler.

By slowly and continuously looking for approaches that can make the gambler start to open up, he will realize that he is not alone and there are people around him who are always ready to help him overcome his gambling addiction problem. Usually, gamblers who are addicted to gambling have experienced significant decline so that the people around them can feel it and can immediately help them.

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