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[dkbit98]

⚠️  It's not allowed to use VPN/Tor on card redemption. You are advised to test the new provider with low amount at first.

This new card looked interesting first especially with 3DS supported, but sadly there is a big list of restricted countries, and with vpn/tor not allowed makes this card unusable for me 
https://stealths.notion.site/Mastercard-Global-Prepaid-1dc6dfb81d0980029ba1d2cd1fb130cf

Another thing I noticed is warning info that this is a new provider, with advise to test it with lower amounts at first... but in the same time minimum is $100, not so small.

[arabspaceship123]

Stealths cards won't work if you're using VPN or Tor so many ppl can't buy it. Did Stealths add bitcoin pay option for ppl buying cards. I've offered help but Stealths didn't accept.

[StealthsNet]

Stealths cards won't work if you're using VPN or Tor so many ppl can't buy it. Did Stealths add bitcoin pay option for ppl buying cards. I've offered help but Stealths didn't accept.

You offered your service not help, we are not interested as you have no idea what is the problem and how to solve. Why posting on our thread? Promote your business somewhere else please.

[Lucius]

Stealths cards won't work if you're using VPN or Tor so many ppl can't buy it.
~snip~

Although this requirement is often stated by card issuers, I can confirm that I have often used a VPN with virtual cards and that it worked. I think it really depends on which VPN you use. As for Tor, that's a completely different story and it's not worth playing with.

[illanz]

 3D Secure will be active in future? or not

[arabspaceship123]

It isn't worth wasting time on virtual cards if it's roulette with VPN's. Did you use Stealths with your VPN ?

Although this requirement is often stated by card issuers, I can confirm that I have often used a VPN with virtual cards and that it worked. I think it really depends on which VPN you use. As for Tor, that's a completely different story and it's not worth playing with.

[StealthsNet]

3D Secure will be active in future? or not

Hello, we have three different products that support 3DS:
https://stealths.net/product/mastercard-global-prepaid (Global)
https://stealths.net/product/rewarble-voucher (Global)
https://stealths.net/product/reward-center-visa (US-only)

[Lucius]

It isn't worth wasting time on virtual cards if it's roulette with VPN's. Did you use Stealths with your VPN ?

Although this requirement is often stated by card issuers, I can confirm that I have often used a VPN with virtual cards and that it worked. I think it really depends on which VPN you use. As for Tor, that's a completely different story and it's not worth playing with.

Wasn't I clear enough? Why would you call it a waste of time or roulette? If it works well, if not then you're not using a VPN and the matter is quite clear. In addition, there are many services that offer virtual cards for crypto, Stealths is not the only one.

[arabspaceship123]

You were clear with out mentioning you didn't use VPN  with Stealths. I called it roulette because if it's working on some VPN it isn't guaranteed. It isn't worth buying virtual cards for use with a VPN if the seller's saying don't use VPN's because the card gets blocked.

Wasn't I clear enough? Why would you call it a waste of time or roulette? If it works well, if not then you're not using a VPN and the matter is quite clear. In addition, there are many services that offer virtual cards for crypto, Stealths is not the only one.

[NotATether]

It's clear that  with all the new offerihs popping up, eventually we will need a directory for listing eSIMs as well. 

[Lucius]

You were clear with out mentioning you didn't use VPN  with Stealths. I called it roulette because if it's working on some VPN it isn't guaranteed. It isn't worth buying virtual cards for use with a VPN if the seller's saying don't use VPN's because the card gets blocked.

I've never had a case where the card was blocked because a VPN was detected - the only thing that can happen to you is that you can't redeem the card with a VPN - but in that case, just turn it off and the problem is solved. Additionally, if you pay with a card that you redeemed with a VPN, then every transaction you make with it should be with a VPN, otherwise any attempt at privacy is completely unsuccessful.

Furthermore, most VPNs are just a fake appearance of hiding online anyway, if you do something bad they will find you without any problems.

[Blackbacked]

Furthermore, most VPNs are just a fake appearance of hiding online anyway, if you do something bad they will find you without any problems.

Never use free VPNs and always choose only these that position itself on opposition with the government.
Trustworthy VPN list:
https://torrentfreak.com/best-vpn-anonymous-no-logging/

[StealthsNet]

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Monerica is a directory for Monero accepted services, it's a great resource if you are looking for privacy respecting merchants. Always DYOR and be careful about scam services.

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[dkbit98]

✔️  Check out Monerica's tutorial about our Mastercard Global Prepaid product — one of the best privacy friendly global prepaid card in the market.

You need to activate card after purchase. Card issuer will ask for email and address. It's not allowed to use VPN/Tor on redemption, you should provide a valid email address.

It's kind a silly not to allow people to use Tor or VPN when they are paying for this virtual cards with monero.
It's even worse that we have to provide real address and email address.
If someone is willing to pass or bypass that, than having 3DS support is a good thing.

[arabspaceship123]

If buyers aren't allowed to use VPN or Tor it doesn't make stealthsnets cards private. If you've got to give your address & email address there's a privacy problem before you've started using the card.

You need to activate card after purchase. Card issuer will ask for email and address. It's not allowed to use VPN/Tor on redemption, you should provide a valid email address.

It's kind a silly not to allow people to use Tor or VPN when they are paying for this virtual cards with monero.
It's even worse that we have to provide real address and email address.
If someone is willing to pass or bypass that, than having 3DS support is a good thing.

[UmerIdrees]

You were clear with out mentioning you didn't use VPN  with Stealths. I called it roulette because if it's working on some VPN it isn't guaranteed. It isn't worth buying virtual cards for use with a VPN if the seller's saying don't use VPN's because the card gets blocked.

I've never had a case where the card was blocked because a VPN was detected - the only thing that can happen to you is that you can't redeem the card with a VPN - but in that case, just turn it off and the problem is solved. Additionally, if you pay with a card that you redeemed with a VPN, then every transaction you make with it should be with a VPN, otherwise any attempt at privacy is completely unsuccessful.

Furthermore, most VPNs are just a fake appearance of hiding online anyway, if you do something bad they will find you without any problems.

Thats very right that we should be cautious of using a VPN when using these cards. The probelm usually arises if you connect to a VPN in a certain location, make treanscations and then next time connect to a dofferent region via VPN and make transcations from altogehter different IP / location. Maybe we may get away with one ot two times but always connecting to different region, will make our card flaged as suspiouss.

Also to note that Financial institutions like the banks, card networks, gift card processors are primarily concerned with fraud prevention and it is not necessarily punishing VPN usage. Their system may flags the login or transaction attempt as "high risk" because the IP geolocation doesn't match the user's known country.

[arabspaceship123]

If you live in Mexico or South Africa which options do you have if virtual card suppliers say VPN use is banned and you have to give an American postal address? If the rules say you have to make internet purchases from an American IP address you will use a VPN.

If the IP location do not match where you tell them you are living you could get away with it one or two times if you are outside America. It is a risk to pay for virtual cards if they could be blocked at registration because of the VPN. If you break the rules they will not give refunds for banned cards

Thats very right that we should be cautious of using a VPN when using these cards. The probelm usually arises if you connect to a VPN in a certain location, make treanscations and then next time connect to a dofferent region via VPN and make transcations from altogehter different IP / location. Maybe we may get away with one ot two times but always connecting to different region, will make our card flaged as suspiouss.

Also to note that Financial institutions like the banks, card networks, gift card processors are primarily concerned with fraud prevention and it is not necessarily punishing VPN usage. Their system may flags the login or transaction attempt as "high risk" because the IP geolocation doesn't match the user's known country.

[UmerIdrees]

If you live in Mexico or South Africa which options do you have if virtual card suppliers say VPN use is banned and you have to give an American postal address? If the rules say you have to make internet purchases from an American IP address you will use a VPN.

If the IP location do not match where you tell them you are living you could get away with it one or two times if you are outside America. It is a risk to pay for virtual cards if they could be blocked at registration because of the VPN. If you break the rules they will not give refunds for banned cards

Ofcourse that is a common situation for the people living in those regions and have limited access to certain financial services. First, it is crucial to understand why these companies have such strict rules. They are usually concerned with compliance that includes the KYC And AML policies. there are laws that are extremely strict in the united states financial institutions.

Maybe those people should look for only legal routes for example in south Africa they have PayFast that offers virtual card.

[Hamza2424]

If buyers aren't allowed to use VPN or Tor it doesn't make stealthsnets cards private. If you've got to give your address & email address there's a privacy problem before you've started using the card.

This eliminates the real benefit of using that virtual card then haha, what a useless experience but there must be a way to use it but it will still be a risk because money can be stuck and they can ask for more documentation and they do have the right to ask for documentation as well because they don't want other kind of transactions you know what I mean.

If they ask for personal details then OP how it is better for merchants looking for privacy? Although as I said there is a solution to every problem or question one don't want to answer, there are ways to change the location, confirm the address and even the number but is it worth the risk to use for precious money? I don't think so.

[arabspaceship123]

They are not privacy cards if it eliminates any benefit when they ask for private info to activate cards. Is it private if you must give American addresses and phone numbers to activate the service or if you are not permitted to use a VPN service?

If buyers aren't allowed to use VPN or Tor it doesn't make stealthsnets cards private. If you've got to give your address & email address there's a privacy problem before you've started using the card.

This eliminates the real benefit of using that virtual card then haha, what a useless experience but there must be a way to use it but it will still be a risk because money can be stuck and they can ask for more documentation and they do have the right to ask for documentation as well because they don't want other kind of transactions you know what I mean.

If they ask for personal details then OP how it is better for merchants looking for privacy? Although as I said there is a solution to every problem or question one don't want to answer, there are ways to change the location, confirm the address and even the number but is it worth the risk to use for precious money? I don't think so.