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Question: Which problem will you choose to solve?
Problem of the rich. - 12 (27.9%)
Problem of the poor. - 31 (72.1%)
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September 10, 2023, 02:45:34 AM
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When you solve a problem it either benefits the rich or the poor. Job creation benefits the poor more than the rich. However when the government gives people like Elon Musk the permission to build a gigantic Tesla Battery manufacturing factory in Texas, it benefits the rich because they would buy more shares in the company, making it more profitable, also he doesn't get to pay taxes. It also benefits the poor because of massive job creation.

Lastly, the problem of the poor soon becomes that of the rich if it is not solved.

Is just that without the poor the rich can't completely achieve their goal, because if you look at it this way like you said there would be massive job creation. With that you don't expect the rich after buying shares they should still be the ones to engage in both the laboring department, no. That's why I said without the poor the rich finds it hard to get to their goal.

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September 10, 2023, 04:24:16 AM
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I came across this tweet, so the reference is the username. I thought it was a topic worth bringing up for discussion to see the choice that will be made by forum members.
Solving problems between poor people and rich people is actually a problem that can be solved all at once, or simultaneously. A simple example, a rich person who creates a large company or factory and the factory really has good potential. That way, the company or factory will definitely need employees to be able to run the factory. So that way, rich people and poor people can solve their problems. In plant science, this is called mutualistic symbiosis, which means mutual benefit to each other.

So solving the problems of rich people can indeed solve the problems of poor people. Because life always goes hand in hand, just as there are rich people, there are certainly poor people around them.
So solving the problems of poor people and rich people, in my opinion, can be done simultaneously.

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September 10, 2023, 07:39:30 AM
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I came across this tweet, so the reference is the username. I thought it was a topic worth bringing up for discussion to see the choice that will be made by forum members. This topic is about solving problems as a service you render to make a living. Which of the problems will you prefer to solve as a service you render? the problems of the poor? or the problems of the rich? (support your choice with a reason)

I posted this here because it relates to choices we make concerning how we want our finance to be, if this is a wrong place and the topic fits better in "politics and society", I will be happy to move it there.

Looking at this i believe you can solve the problem of the rich and as well the poor.
It just start with giving ear to both parties and knowing what the problem is.

Necessarily the rich might be rich and still be having issues that is giving them nightmares and you know that by knowing what their inner issues is and giving them audience will also pave a way to solving the problem of the poor..

Let me share you this short story:.There was a day A rich man and a poor man found themselves in church asking God for help and in solving their problem.
The poor man was so loud and violent in his prayer while the rich man was just Soft spoken and communicating with God like a business partner..
With the poor man loud violent prayers the rich man was distracted and looked at the poor man praying with so much anger in his request for money.
So then,to the rich man,the poor man is a disturbing is business tete a tete with God,so he sat back,put his hand in his pocket and brought out money the poor man is asking God for and gave to him right there..
The poor man was so happy and at that moment was thanking God for the blessings. So the rich man by reaching out to the needy poor man his business alignment with God was approved,and both was at balance and Thanking God.

Whats the lesson here now,From what the rich have,you can solve the problem of the poor and also the rich,so your duty is to be a problem solver to both parties and its done by asking and knowing what each of them want like in the story now God was the third party asking to know what they wants,the poor said said what he want and so is the rich man,and then God use the rich man to give the poor man what he desires and blessed the rich man for what he did..for me like ill solve the both problems.
Lets look at it that way all men are all equal.
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September 10, 2023, 10:05:43 AM
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I came across this tweet, so the reference is the username. I thought it was a topic worth bringing up for discussion to see the choice that will be made by forum members. This topic is about solving problems as a service you render to make a living. Which of the problems will you prefer to solve as a service you render? the problems of the poor? or the problems of the rich? (support your choice with a reason)

I posted this here because it relates to choices we make concerning how we want our finance to be, if this is a wrong place and the topic fits better in "politics and society", I will be happy to move it there.

Even though many poor people have different problems, there are some who have financial difficulties that you can help with jobs or other work that can be able to provide food to there table, because if you can't help them with jobs or other work that can be able to provide them with food to their table, then you won't be able to satisfy their needs.If that is difficult, there is no way we can be able to solve a poor situation. In fact, some people can see you as an enemy for not providing the solution to them.

According to my point of view, the only way to satisfy many poor individuals is to provide for their basic needs, such as providing for a community's lack of water, if someone with money is able to do so.

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September 10, 2023, 10:16:24 AM
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When you solve a problem it either benefits the rich or the poor. Job creation benefits the poor more than the rich. However when the government gives people like Elon Musk the permission to build a gigantic Tesla Battery manufacturing factory in Texas, it benefits the rich because they would buy more shares in the company, making it more profitable, also he doesn't get to pay taxes. It also benefits the poor because of massive job creation.

Lastly, the problem of the poor soon becomes that of the rich if it is not solved.

Is just that without the poor the rich can't completely achieve their goal, because if you look at it this way like you said there would be massive job creation. With that you don't expect the rich after buying shares they should still be the ones to engage in both the laboring department, no. That's why I said without the poor the rich finds it hard to get to their goal.

In short, manpower, poor people do the dirty work, but the rich work with their brains and their money, which is why they earn more. No matter what it is connected to, poor people can't also buy their needs if they haven't been employed by those rich people, and rich people can't earn a single profit without the manpower that is coming from poor people.
Let's say you purchased a share from the company of Elon, which only the rich can afford. If the company is successful, the rich also gain more profit, and guess what? Those employees received an increase. No, the managerial people or supervisors received the raise, not those below who keep their hands dirty and just take orders from above.
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September 10, 2023, 04:46:21 PM
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In short, manpower, poor people do the dirty work, but the rich work with their brains and their money, which is why they earn more. No matter what it is connected to, poor people can't also buy their needs if they haven't been employed by those rich people, and rich people can't earn a single profit without the manpower that is coming from poor people.
Let's say you purchased a share from the company of Elon, which only the rich can afford. If the company is successful, the rich also gain more profit, and guess what? Those employees received an increase. No, the managerial people or supervisors received the raise, not those below who keep their hands dirty and just take orders from above.

That's true and without the poor the rich can't get a successful business so in as much as the rich just sit and get more money it only shows that the poor at least have something to hold on to with their pay they can't depend on street begging, at the moment there problem have been solved.
The rich only need the poor as in manpower to make more money, without the manpower that business will crumble even if it's Elon musk.

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 There were many rich people who were just sitting on the path to loss in business because their losses were so great that no one could afford to help them.  And rich people cannot ask everyone for help when they are in trouble.  However, if we consider the problems, the amount of problems in the life of the poor is not less. They are also plagued with various problems.

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September 10, 2023, 06:51:11 PM
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When you solve a problem it either benefits the rich or the poor. Job creation benefits the poor more than the rich. However when the government gives people like Elon Musk the permission to build a gigantic Tesla Battery manufacturing factory in Texas, it benefits the rich because they would buy more shares in the company, making it more profitable, also he doesn't get to pay taxes. It also benefits the poor because of massive job creation.

Lastly, the problem of the poor soon becomes that of the rich if it is not solved.

Is just that without the poor the rich can't completely achieve their goal, because if you look at it this way like you said there would be massive job creation. With that you don't expect the rich after buying shares they should still be the ones to engage in both the laboring department, no. That's why I said without the poor the rich finds it hard to get to their goal.

We should always have it at the back of our minds that the rich and the poor both are interdependent of each other, in an economy, everyone cannot be rich and also not everyone will be poor as well, this has always been and will remain forever because we all cannot reason exist in the same category, but live renders us opportunities to have a chance of changing from one class to another, the poor are aiming to get rich while the rich are doing what it takes to make wealth, the whole summary now is if the poor is not doing what will make him rich, he may never get wealth, if the rich does it maintain a practice to sustain his wealth, he will become poor, those that have witnessed the two can explain better.

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September 11, 2023, 03:09:23 PM
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Problems exist in everyone's life. Both the rich and the poor are facing various problems. There is no person in the world without problems. But we think that the life of the rich is easy and the life of the poor is difficult. This is our misconception.  Because there are many big problems in the life of the rich, such as job loss, business loss, financial loss, high expenses for physical problems.  And their losses are very high.
 There were many rich people who were just sitting on the path to loss in business because their losses were so great that no one could afford to help them.  And rich people cannot ask everyone for help when they are in trouble.  However, if we consider the problems, the amount of problems in the life of the poor is not less. They are also plagued with various problems.
One of the problems a person always has is either too little money or too much money. Which one would you like to have? It is clear that when you are rich, most problems can be solved by money, and your task will be to skillfully manage your wealth. When there is no money, many problems arise that will constantly distract us, this is a very difficult situation from which it is difficult to get out. It's better to worry about where to invest money than about where to find money to eat.

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That's true and without the poor the rich can't get a successful business so in as much as the rich just sit and get more money it only shows that the poor at least have something to hold on to with their pay they can't depend on street begging, at the moment there problem have been solved.
The rich only need the poor as in manpower to make more money, without the manpower that business will crumble even if it's Elon musk.
Well, just as the poor and describing them as if they're slaves which is a sad truth. We're all consumers and even the richest folks are also consumers.

So, they also make others rich and while the others are also making them rich. What could possibly be the problem of the rich? I guess if they're problematic about time management, someone has to step in to them and don't need to teach them but buy them some time on how they'll be entertained.

Because only them can handle their own problems.

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Majority state that they'll try to solve the problem of the poor. The reality, we need to make the rich understand the difficulties faced by the poor. Most of the billionaires have emerged from poor background. They know well about the poor peoples life. The rich gets richer through their hardwork, we can't deny it. Same time there needs to certain restrictions with the limits, beyond the limit should be shared to the people in need. Such scenario could be the only way to solve the problem of the poor.

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That's true and without the poor the rich can't get a successful business so in as much as the rich just sit and get more money it only shows that the poor at least have something to hold on to with their pay they can't depend on street begging, at the moment there problem have been solved.
The rich only need the poor as in manpower to make more money, without the manpower that business will crumble even if it's Elon musk.
Well, just as the poor and describing them as if they're slaves which is a sad truth. We're all consumers and even the richest folks are also consumers.

So, they also make others rich and while the others are also making them rich. What could possibly be the problem of the rich? I guess if they're problematic about time management, someone has to step in to them and don't need to teach them but buy them some time on how they'll be entertained.

Because only them can handle their own problems.
It seems like it is a natural law that humans need each other and cannot live alone. Therefore, don't be disappointed about being poor because we can work with rich people and learn how they work, so we have the opportunity to become rich too. and rich people must be able to respect poor people, because after all we need their energy to achieve income that continues to be created. therefore mutual respect will make everyone feel happy with their lives

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September 12, 2023, 12:45:23 PM
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Well, just as the poor and describing them as if they're slaves which is a sad truth. We're all consumers and even the richest folks are also consumers.

So, they also make others rich and while the others are also making them rich. What could possibly be the problem of the rich? I guess if they're problematic about time management, someone has to step in to them and don't need to teach them but buy them some time on how they'll be entertained.

Because only them can handle their own problems.
It seems like it is a natural law that humans need each other and cannot live alone. Therefore, don't be disappointed about being poor because we can work with rich people and learn how they work, so we have the opportunity to become rich too.
We have to adapt the situation and learn from it. There were real poor people that came from there and then learned the process, got the knowledge and became rich as they took the risk and applied what they've learned from the rich.

and rich people must be able to respect poor people, because after all we need their energy to achieve income that continues to be created. therefore mutual respect will make everyone feel happy with their lives
While I know that many rich people don't degrade people that are not on their level. But it's also another sad truth that there are people that have just became rich and yet, belittling people that are not quite well with their lives.

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It seems like it is a natural law that humans need each other and cannot live alone. Therefore, don't be disappointed about being poor because we can work with rich people and learn how they work, so we have the opportunity to become rich too. and rich people must be able to respect poor people, because after all we need their energy to achieve income that continues to be created. therefore mutual respect will make everyone feel happy with their lives

It is more of a law for the life of every human being on this earth, because the attitude of mutual respect and respect for each other is part of the etiquette in life. So that the need for each other between rich people and poor people can happen well because basically rich people will not be able to do all the work by themselves if they don't rely on the labor of poor people or rely on the intelligence of poor people.

Poor people have the opportunity to become rich because they work for rich people with a very decent salary, but poor people who only work for their daily needs will take a long time to become rich because they do not have enough income to make savings in their lives. So in this case it is very clear that poor people really need rich people so that they can become rich one day, apart from their labor being needed by rich people who have more places to employ poor people.

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Rich and poor people have their own problems according to their own portions. If they choose me to hear their problems, of course I welcome. But won't provide any solution if it doesn't suit my knowledge and experience preference. I just don't want to add more problems because of wrong advice, and I don't want to become another corner of the problem.

Yes, I will solve the problem of poor people. Poor people do not have financial knowledge, so I will give them free financial education, I will taught  a highly paid skills, in this they will get out from poverty and they will work to enjoy life. Poor people only spend their life to serve a rich people, they work for money and money do not work for them. This is a big difference between rich a nd poor people. I will teach them to stand on their feet, I will them how to start any business and how to make a progress report. I will teach them, how to make a connection with people and how to marketing. Firstly, I will teach them marketing because marketing has a high scope. Every businessman should know marketing. They will be stand on their feet in 1 year and they will be rich in 3 years and then money will work for them, they will not do work for money. I this way, we can change our country fate.

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Is just that without the poor the rich can't completely achieve their goal, because if you look at it this way like you said there would be massive job creation. With that you don't expect the rich after buying shares they should still be the ones to engage in both the laboring department, no. That's why I said without the poor the rich finds it hard to get to their goal.
Yes, that's right, both of them are actually tied to each other to achieve their goals. As you have said, they need each other even to achieve their respective goals. Because without complementing each other, the goals they want will be difficult to achieve. However, rich people and poor people have the same thing in common, namely that they both have big egos, because they both feel that their rights must come first, and in the end their faces are the same.

So back to the OP's thread, if I could choose who I should help first, I would choose to prioritize helping the poor. because I believe rich people will remain rich even without help, they will remain financially safe. This is very different from poor people, if they are not helped then their difficulties will increase. Whether we admit it or not, in many countries the number of poor people is definitely the largest. It could be said that there are more poor people than rich people. So by helping poor people, life in the country will also be safer and more stable because in some countries crime has increased due to the large number of poor people.

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Rich and poor people have their own problems according to their own portions. If they choose me to hear their problems, of course I welcome. But won't provide any solution if it doesn't suit my knowledge and experience preference. I just don't want to add more problems because of wrong advice, and I don't want to become another corner of the problem.

Yes, I will solve the problem of poor people. Poor people do not have financial knowledge, so I will give them free financial education, I will taught  a highly paid skills, in this they will get out from poverty and they will work to enjoy life. Poor people only spend their life to serve a rich people, they work for money and money do not work for them. This is a big difference between rich a nd poor people. I will teach them to stand on their feet, I will them how to start any business and how to make a progress report. I will teach them, how to make a connection with people and how to marketing. Firstly, I will teach them marketing because marketing has a high scope. Every businessman should know marketing. They will be stand on their feet in 1 year and they will be rich in 3 years and then money will work for them, they will not do work for money. I this way, we can change our country fate.


I would probably do the same, I think poor people needs more help compare to the rich ones. Of course, the first step that must be done is to make education more accessible for the people who cannot afford it, because lack of education is the main root why there are a lot of poverty-stricken people. Teaching them financial literacy will help them to developed wise spending and budgeting, this will aid them to achieve financial stability.

Others may argue that poverty is a choice, but sometimes even the most hardworking person is still living in a poverty because of poor salaries and income. Let's try to look at the farmers, they are working very hard amidst strong climates, and yet most of them are still considered poor because their income is not enough compare to the amount of work that they do. For example, in my country, a farmer only gets 5 dollars per day which is not enough to survive a day. So, this is something that I would like to solve because I believe that proper wages should be given to them.



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Is just that without the poor the rich can't completely achieve their goal, because if you look at it this way like you said there would be massive job creation. With that you don't expect the rich after buying shares they should still be the ones to engage in both the laboring department, no. That's why I said without the poor the rich finds it hard to get to their goal.
Yes, that's right, both of them are actually tied to each other to achieve their goals. As you have said, they need each other even to achieve their respective goals. Because without complementing each other, the goals they want will be difficult to achieve. However, rich people and poor people have the same thing in common, namely that they both have big egos, because they both feel that their rights must come first, and in the end their faces are the same.

So back to the OP's thread, if I could choose who I should help first, I would choose to prioritize helping the poor. because I believe rich people will remain rich even without help, they will remain financially safe. This is very different from poor people, if they are not helped then their difficulties will increase. Whether we admit it or not, in many countries the number of poor people is definitely the largest. It could be said that there are more poor people than rich people. So by helping poor people, life in the country will also be safer and more stable because in some countries crime has increased due to the large number of poor people.
All humans need each other, in fact, no one can do it alone, between poor people and rich people there is a continuity of mutual assistance and it cannot be separated.
And regarding which one will be helped first, of course everyone will help solve problems for the people who need it, for rich people who have excess finances they can get out of problems by using the financial strength they have, while poor people can't, so it's clear that poor people are given priority.



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September 20, 2023, 05:11:57 AM
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I came across this tweet, so the reference is the username. I thought it was a topic worth bringing up for discussion to see the choice that will be made by forum members. This topic is about solving problems as a service you render to make a living. Which of the problems will you prefer to solve as a service you render? the problems of the poor? or the problems of the rich? (support your choice with a reason)

I posted this here because it relates to choices we make concerning how we want our finance to be, if this is a wrong place and the topic fits better in "politics and society", I will be happy to move it there.

I don't understand what the "problem of the rich" is. As a rule, the rich are people who have achieved what they have with their hard work. They invented or invented something, in general they were useful to society. Yes, thieves and murderers often get rich, but there are a minority of them. Therefore, I think we should not solve only the problem of poverty, because such people suffer from a lack of food and medicines. And the rich are the kind of population that we cannot influence. And why?

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Is just that without the poor the rich can't completely achieve their goal, because if you look at it this way like you said there would be massive job creation. With that you don't expect the rich after buying shares they should still be the ones to engage in both the laboring department, no. That's why I said without the poor the rich finds it hard to get to their goal.
Yes, that's right, both of them are actually tied to each other to achieve their goals. As you have said, they need each other even to achieve their respective goals. Because without complementing each other, the goals they want will be difficult to achieve. However, rich people and poor people have the same thing in common, namely that they both have big egos, because they both feel that their rights must come first, and in the end their faces are the same.

So back to the OP's thread, if I could choose who I should help first, I would choose to prioritize helping the poor. because I believe rich people will remain rich even without help, they will remain financially safe. This is very different from poor people, if they are not helped then their difficulties will increase. Whether we admit it or not, in many countries the number of poor people is definitely the largest. It could be said that there are more poor people than rich people. So by helping poor people, life in the country will also be safer and more stable because in some countries crime has increased due to the large number of poor people.
All humans need each other, in fact, no one can do it alone, between poor people and rich people there is a continuity of mutual assistance and it cannot be separated.
And regarding which one will be helped first, of course everyone will help solve problems for the people who need it, for rich people who have excess finances they can get out of problems by using the financial strength they have, while poor people can't, so it's clear that poor people are given priority.

The problem here is that the OP's question is about solving the problem, not who we choose to support. The rich and the poor are inextricably linked and the two are almost inseparable if they want to survive. And the problem of the poor is largely economic and to be able to solve that requires rich people, because the rich are the ones who are building businesses and creating jobs. From there, it helps the poor solve the problems of the poor. So if we choose to solve problems, we only need to solve the rich people's problems and the poor people's problems will also be solved.
Just as the government wants to improve people's lives, what they need to do is promote businesses to expand production, create more jobs and the poor will be helped through that.

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