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August 22, 2023, 08:44:46 PM |
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I would like to take into consideration four levels of contribution in a match by a star player, and hope to see from everyone's opinion how their contribution would go to affect the outcome, odds of a game and the bet after the game is concluded. These four levels include: *playing part of a match, *playing a full match, *being substituted out and *being substituted in.
No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.
My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?
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August 22, 2023, 08:50:35 PM |
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I would say that a star players involvement might not greatly affect some games but others it would affect it wildly. As an outlier look at MLS league Miami before Messi joined and after. They were one of the worst teams and then a top team with Messi. I would definitely think the odds would swing wildly different if he did or did not plan on playing in a game, at least if it was known.
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August 22, 2023, 09:30:04 PM |
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If you are asking if the involvement of star players affects how much odds bookies place on a club, then it definitely does cause all factors like: who is playing at home, current form, any related match news etc affects the outcome of the match.
So the answer is yes, important players affect the odds of a match.
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August 22, 2023, 09:40:45 PM |
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?
Yes If you have been checking matches odd, you will notice that the odd is changing. Assuming the odd was very small for a strong team, if it is noticed that the club will bench like two or three players because the club is having a tougher match coming, the bookies may increase the odd of the strong club. This can happen if the strong club wants to play champions league quarter final or higher but playing with a small club in their league, the strong club manager can rest or bench some of the best players. Before a club is given an odd, there are some things to consider. How strong the club players are is one of the things that will determine the odd.
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August 22, 2023, 09:45:30 PM |
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?
Some gamblers are betting based on the star players skills and the other basis for their bets. Star players will contribute no matter what, the only question here is who is their opponent? where they will play? There is other indicators that you should consider on betting. The odds changes due to many reason and having a star player can totally affect the odds, you can just notice this on a team with the star players.
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August 22, 2023, 09:58:55 PM Last edit: August 22, 2023, 10:14:59 PM by Sandra_hakeem |
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Hehe....how are players supposed to affect the odds in a game??.. well, I'd say they could buh that's Not gonna be so particular... Dunno if you get my point?. If the performances of any player at all is superfluous, then the club could eventually be Valued at more bet/spin points (depending on the leauge in question though).. I don't think it's something that's done like a major speculation thus, affecting the results of the game at the end...no, I don't. Like I said, it might be the case in so many other farmer leauges..
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August 22, 2023, 10:26:58 PM |
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Yes, star players can have a significant impact on the odds of a bet or wager on a match, considering the four levels of contribution you mentioned. The level of contribution a star player provides in a match can influence the outcome and subsequently affect the odds. As prominent players have a significant impact on the final result of the game, bookmakers and betting markets consider their presence and performance when setting odds. It's crucial to remember that other factors, outside only the participation of the star player, such as team dynamics, recent performance, injuries, and other elements, affect the odds.
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August 22, 2023, 10:48:29 PM |
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There is a significant effect but it still depends on the sport because I remember betting on the NBA regular season last time and teams that didn't have their star player still played well and won the games they should've lost.
Recently in esports, there was a team who are always one of the big favorites in their league, and suddenly, they became mediocre, losing most of their series (from 6-2 to 9-9) after their star player injured his wrist. Thankfully, he recovered in time and got to play during the playoffs to push the team back to their top form.
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August 22, 2023, 10:48:39 PM |
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It does, and it depends on who the star player is with and who they are against. An example I can think of is GSW vs Cavs championship games. During games when the whole Cavs team is present, they are at even odds against GSW. But in games when one key person is missing from the team (Kevin Love), the odds shift towards GSW even with Lebron and Kyrie on board. While star players have the capability to carry a team on their backs, it isn't enough especially on a team-based game.
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August 22, 2023, 10:49:24 PM |
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Yes but more with specific players. I saw this with previous NBA League in particular with championship. I was looking for parlays and I find it hard to get a decent odd with Nikola Jokic and Murray on sepecific stats 'coz they're both expected to perform well by other bettors, also with other players such as Gordon. Odds are simply the reflection of how majority of bettors percieve a player or fighter within a specific match. So basically, star players are more popular than bench players which makes sense for audiences to expect more from them to perform well within a game. You'd be able to bet under their names for a better outcome but never expect high returns all the time.
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August 22, 2023, 11:06:12 PM |
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Not every game have this, in very specific games like basketball, football we can experience the difference in odds for a team when a star player is added to the squad as well as when he isn't in the squad. This is common, because the team winning is much connected with the players, and the predictions will also be based on them. Always they carry the expectation of the audience. Whether it gets fulfilled or not is the end result.
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August 22, 2023, 11:07:13 PM |
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Star players contribute to 70-80% of match winnings in a particular team especially when the player is not injured and when the player is in good form. Taking Real Madrid as an example, the performance of Real Madrid dropped automatically when Benzema was injured last season because he was always the star man in every of their match irrespective of the fact that there are so many good players there but he's absence was felt when Madrid was dropping point in every match. For a star player to play from the bench is really not possible unless they player is affected by fatigue or the coach decided to play him from the bench because he just came back from an injury but then his presence will still be felt on the pitch whenever he's introduced because he is a prolific player and a game changer for his club.
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August 22, 2023, 11:19:20 PM |
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Yes, they do. Without any doubt.
Not playing or injure could greatly change the odds. Sudden injury half of the game could also change the odds but it will depend on the score and how much time is left. Load management may also affect the odds if the player suddenly feels like he had enough playtime and will just let his teammates finish the game.
Star players gave a plus/minus and we should always check those out. If a star can greatly affect the game on both ends of the floor then his absence will also change the spreads and the winning chance of his team.
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August 22, 2023, 11:19:44 PM |
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odds are calculated sometimes weeks/months in advance for some games. In any case you can usually bet on a match within a week of it happening. What influences the odds are the events leading up to a game. Players injured, coach fired, or someone sick and likely will not play. All of these things will change the odds up or down, having a star player or whatnot is already calculated like I said though.
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August 22, 2023, 11:23:01 PM |
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Yes, let's say Team A has a star player while Team B doesn't. The bookies are odd and will definitely be in favor of Team A who's got a star player. That's why it's important to look at the news before the matches happen for the sports that you're betting on. But don't get blinded by these odds because sometimes they're full of surprises when it comes to the actual matches. It's more of speculations before the games and that's why teams that have star players, don't expect them to show that much of odds.
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August 22, 2023, 11:33:21 PM |
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I guess it's a matter of compatibility? I mean some star players wouldn't increase much in terms of strength if the core of the team was already established in the first place, heck they might become weaker in the short term in fact. In comparison, adding a good player on a relatively bad team could help build up a foundation, specifically around that star player. While this leads to the the limiting themselves, it's faster in comparison to trying to build the entire team up to match the star player. Okay I ranted a bit off topic, to answer, yes. There might be varying changes, but yes they do affect the odds.
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August 22, 2023, 11:42:56 PM |
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In most cases, if the star players can play full time, I believe it really bring impacts on the match. The star players boost the motivation of the whole squad, so they can play with their best form. It also becomes a challenge for the opposite team because some players will be ordered to restrict/limit the star players' movement. So, it can be the advantage for the team who has the star players, there will be many open spaces for attacks. This actually improves the chance to win. Moreover, the star players can make a difference in the match because they know well how to score or deliver assists.
However, it doesn't always applies as expected. We must see in some matches, the star players can't contribute anything. For example Ronaldo. Although Ronaldo can lead Al Nassr to win Saudi club champions cup but he failed to give Al Nassr winning in some SPL matches. That's the fact that star players don't always bring positive impacts.
So, if we want to place a bet for a team which has star players, we must learn first how the current performance of the star players.
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August 22, 2023, 11:45:48 PM |
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier? In terms of the game, the result obviously depends very little on a single player, no matter how "idolized" his team is, so I believe in the "placebo effect" that you mentioned. However, we know that the existence or not of these players on the field in a certain way end up influencing the betting probability a lot, even though the result does not change much technically, people believe that this player in some way always has a great importance for the match. team. In this sense, I think bookmakers also take this into account and adjust the ODDS more or less according to these movements. My opinion then: Technically, the stars don't make much difference, but when we talk about betting then this has a relevant impact.
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August 22, 2023, 11:49:50 PM |
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In most cases, if the star players can play full time, I believe it really bring impacts on the match. The star players boost the motivation of the whole squad, so they can play with their best form. It also becomes a challenge for the opposite team because some players will be ordered to restrict/limit the star players' movement. So, it can be the advantage for the team who has the star players, there will be many open spaces for attacks. This actually improves the chance to win. Moreover, the star players can make a difference in the match because they know well how to score or deliver assists.
However, it doesn't always applies as expected. We must see in some matches, the star players can't contribute anything. For example Ronaldo. Although Ronaldo can lead Al Nassr to win Saudi club champions cup but he failed to give Al Nassr winning in some SPL matches. That's the fact that star players don't always bring positive impacts.
if nothing else, they can bring a good number of audience to the match. so it is still a win-win situation, earning more as compared to a seemingly regular game. but we can't discard the fact that it will really give a very good motivation to the team itself. maybe, putting their best foot forward as they are inspired to do best. so if you are betting on this game, need to carefully select your odds here.
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August 22, 2023, 11:51:36 PM |
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[....] *being substituted out and *being substituted in.
These factors are usually for live betting so it's not important for people who made bets early. It would more likely affect the odds depending on the time of the substitution and the score. A good lead and leaving the game with only a little time left isn't going to change the odds while a close game with lots of time to play will have an opposite effect.
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