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August 22, 2023, 11:56:33 PM
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

The star player doesn't really affect the odds of bet. In fact, the bookies were always seeing it in a squad and not only from the personality, as football was a game of eleven players. The star player may increase the level of confidence from bookies in making club to have lower odds as it has been favorable to win the game. The club's odds are in a state of constant fluctuation based on their field performance. If you were watching the game and the stats of game is a thing that was affecting the changing of odds. 
The star player may be contributing a lot to the club but it will not change the fact that if odds determine from the overall performance by the club.

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August 23, 2023, 03:38:31 AM
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Of course, it does. These star players are considered star players for a reason. Their presence is a big deal, not just because of what they can do to their teammates' morale, confidence, and performance but mainly because of what they can do to the game. So, betting odds would definitely be affected.

You take Lionel Messi from Inter Miami and the betting odds would definitely increase. You take Jokic from the Nuggets and you're taking away a much more solid play which will certainly reflect on the odds.

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August 23, 2023, 04:32:31 AM
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In very high level leagues like UEFA Champions League or just English Premier League or Spanish La Liga, star players only "individually" affect games sometimes. In general their teams are already having top class squads. Also their opponents very likely don't have very weak squads. I think those are only considered within a bit lower quality leagues. Or considered against weak teams of La Liga vs Barcelona for example.
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August 23, 2023, 04:54:52 AM
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Star players certainly have above average playing skills and even star players are always the core players for a club, not only in football but for other types of sports in groups or containing several players.
So it is only natural that a club that has several star players can perform very well and always has a great chance to win.
Usually the coach has his own strategy for playing these star players such as using them fully from the beginning to the end of the match and there are also those who play when they are in the middle of time to be able to catch up or add advantages.
It's just that not all clubs have top star players because they have expensive salaries and make it difficult for middle to lower clubs to have the opportunity to have star players.

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August 23, 2023, 05:05:46 AM
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*playing part of a match,
*playing a full match,
*being substituted out and
*being substituted in.


My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?


Absolutely big YES! It's obviously very evident when bookies make their odds. 1 superstar is enough to make a significant impact with the odds offered by the bookies. So that purely depends on the intensity of the game, like in the NBA, during a regular season players like Jokic, LeBron, Giannis, Curry, and other superstars will not gonna play the whole 48 mins, so when they miss game, the odds may not make a huge difference compared in the playoffs where most of these superstars are playing at 40+ mins average per game.
Superstar players can make a huge impact when his in the court and can boost his teammates morale, plus it might also intimidate the opposing's team. That's just a simple fact about superstars significantly affecting the odds whether or not he plays.

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August 23, 2023, 05:10:36 AM
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I would say that a star players involvement might not greatly affect some games but others it would affect it wildly.  As an outlier look at MLS league Miami before Messi joined and after.  They were one of the worst teams and then a top team with Messi.  I would definitely think the odds would swing wildly different if he did or did not plan on playing in a game, at least if it was known.  
Spot on. Star players affect how much odds bookmakers place on a club...but...there is a big but this is only in small teams and upcoming leagues. Messi in Miami, Christano Ronaldo in Al Nassr, Neymar in Al Hilal. These are just some typical examples. Aside these if these star players had moved to big clubs in well established leauges Like the Preimer League, Italian Serie A, we would notice no major effect on the odds placed by the bookies.

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Of course they affect the result of a game. Star players can win the game when they are motivated enough but sometimes they don’t perform well becsuse they get angry at something and then it costs them the game… So if a team has star player(s) then it is the coach’s responsibility to keep these players happy. Maybe give them some privileges but overdoing it will also create a lot of problems so it needs to be fine tuned. Look at C. Ronaldo, he is still winning cups for his team. It means he is happy.

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August 23, 2023, 05:20:24 AM
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

Star players makes hugh impact on their teams, there are numerous instances of illustration of these facts. In the scenario of Leo Messi and Cristiano Ronaldo in their new clubs, they have both achieved alot from football and known to be record breakers. Leo Messi presence in Argentina squad made them lift the 2022 Qater world cup and also winning the first league trophy with Inter Miami, anything he touches excel in football, the most decorated player in football history, popularly known as the undisputed GOAT with no match. With these, I'm confident that big players affect their various clubs.

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A star player is already a plus.  They wouldn't be imported to a team if they wouldn't be able to help. I think the bookmakers will consider how good the star player is against the other when they set the odds up. Whether Messi or Ronaldo is incorporated into a team, they will excel especially if they complement the talents of the rest of the team. 

The tournaments in our regional sports also invite star players from our national sports players, they kinda boost the confidence of the local players.


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August 23, 2023, 07:26:01 AM
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The answer is yes, because they (star players) always make a good impression on people, leading them to believe that the team that has the best players will be able to win the match. For example, if team A and team B have a match in two days time and perhaps all the players for team A are not yet known, the odd could be small for team A compared to the opposite team, but if, by chance, team A finally adds a star player to the club for full time or even half time, the odd for team A will be increased by the bookies because they know that many gamblers are going to stake on team A believing that with Mesi in that match, the team A would win.
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August 23, 2023, 07:51:31 AM
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*playing part of a match,
*playing a full match,
*being substituted out and
*being substituted in.
My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?
Star players may affect the odds of their clubs but it's a subject that is relative, all the playing conditions you stated above could impact or maintain the odds and it's obvious in betting when players are being substituted during the match because it can change the whole narrative. Let me just summarise it in five scenarios in relation to yours.

1. The capability of the whole team is important, if the team is bad, I don't think there is a huge impact a start player would make in that match.
2. The time the star player start playing matters, and this could only impact the odds if such is substituted when there is much time to play, not at the injury time.
3. The track record of the star player in such moments (full or part-time). If the player is such that didn't deliver upon substitution, I don't think it can impact the odd.
4. If a star player is substituted out, it's obvious that their team's odds could reduce or increase, it depends on the person such is substituted for, especially when the former didn't perform as expected.
5. Finally, even if the star player would play in full, odds must have been rated with the team's capacity combined as no single tree could make a forest.

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Star players have a psychological influence on team play so that team play might be better if there are star players. But if a star player is sent off due to injury or punishment, it could affect the team's psychology and reduce the team's performance. But if the team is not affected by the presence or absence of star players, it will be a surprise for the opposing team because they think the team will not be able to give their best if there are no star players.

And as for the stakes, it may change and affect it in the middle of the match. But bettors will usually look at other things and not just see if there are star players who will play or if only the core players will compete. And bettors will also see how the team's journey from the previous match was to see how big the chances of winning are.

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Many factors will be considered by bookmakers when determining the odds for a team in a match to be carried out, and the factor of the team's star player might be considered because the presence of the star player also has an influence on the team and can also affect the outcome of the match later.
An example of what Inter Miami is currently experiencing, despite their very poor performance in the previous match but the presence of one of the star players who greatly influenced the team's performance will affect the odds they will receive, tomorrow they will play in the semifinals of the us open cup and they will be the favorite in the semifinal match would be impossible to become a favorite if Lionel Messi wasn't there, because he is one of the keys to the club's game development.

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August 23, 2023, 09:50:54 AM
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Everything matters when it comes to the betting odds. I always consider the betting odds as the best when it comes to results assessments unlike mainstream media and other personalities talking about everything yet they are not putting their money where their mouth is.

Star players have the biggest effects on the betting odds. Just imagine Lionel Messi not playing for Argentina in the World Cup's final game? Or let's say Kylian Mbappé didn't play in the finals. Star players are being valued and assessed regularly so their effects level on the betting odds varies from time to time. A star player might be playing but if he is reported to have an injury then chances are the odds favoring his team will be lessened depending on how serious the injury is.

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No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.
It is undeniable that star players affect the performance of their teams. The impact of the player will be seen when he is injured or sick and not playing. Recently we have seen Manchester City struggle due to the injury of Kevin De Bruyne. And when they are available they can perform wonders.

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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

The odds given to a team depend on their past performance and sometimes the history of both teams. The presence of a top-class player on a team can affect the odds especially when the player is in great form. Great players like Neymar might not affect the odds because he is not in top form to affect the outcome of games.

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August 23, 2023, 01:48:30 PM
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No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.
It is undeniable that star players affect the performance of their teams. The impact of the player will be seen when he is injured or sick and not playing. Recently we have seen Manchester City struggle due to the injury of Kevin De Bruyne. And when they are available they can perform wonders.
This is quite a perfect example as answer to the question of the OP, for those that were following up that games weeks before the start of this EPL season we can attest that the difference in the odd of Manchester City against Newcastle united before the start of the season wasn't the same odd that City had when the news about kelvin Debryune not been able to fixture in that match due to injury.  The initial odds that was given to City increased which was very rare compared to other times that have played with Newcastle with kelvin Debryune available in the game.

The importance of Kelvin Debryune as a star player in the midfield for City was what makes the difference. The odd makes understood that those chances of long passes and crosses known to be made by Debryune would be missed within the midfield and City's midfield won't be a threat to Newcastle therefore giving Newcastle a substantial reason to want to advance forward without fear. So Yes, a Star player in a team does affect the odd size of a match
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August 23, 2023, 01:56:15 PM
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People would easily recognize a star player more than a team, so yes, it would affect the odds. For example, in the NBA, if the Nuggets are the best team and Jokic is their star player, if he is not going to play, that will result in a significant odds adjustment. So, sometimes it's wise to not bet early because there are times when star players are announced as out just minutes before the game.

Furthermore, the reality in sports betting is that when a team is very popular, it's likely to be overvalued by the oddsmakers. This is the reason why gamblers often lose in the long run if they blindly bet on the popular teams.
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Definitely star players are affecting the odds, you can check on the team where there's a star player. When the star player is playing, the odds tend to be heavy favorite, when he's not playing, the team is still favorite, but it's not as low as when the star player is included.

I think it's make sense since star player has a good history, even he's already old and not in prime anymore.

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August 23, 2023, 02:23:47 PM
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?
Bookies are still managed by humans and yes that will affect the odds if a star player is around or not, it definitely will. Even if it will be managed by an AI I think that will still have an effect if AI will depends on the statistics. I think there are still levels you haven't list there and there are too many factors to consider aside from having or not the star player/s.
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August 23, 2023, 02:29:51 PM
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star players greatly affect the team victory and indirectly if the team wins our bet will also win and we will take the example of football. like now Napoli still has Osimhen who always scores or can always look for gaps to score and also PSG who at that time had a heated problem with his star player Mbappe and had used Mbappe only as a reserve player but finally used it as the main player and finally Mbappe was able giving the score to PSG and another example of Real Madrid having lost a star player like Benzema and currently Real Madrid form has dropped slightly.

indeed all of this still depends on luck because sometimes the situation on the field can change not according to what we predict and the opposing team makes a comeback. but at least this star player provides a bigger chance of winning.

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