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August 23, 2023, 02:59:23 PM
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I don't think just one individual player, no matter how much of a star he may seem to be influences much. Football is a team effort irrespective of the contribution of one or two players who may seemingly perform and play better.  They've been multiple instances where not so strong teams having the better chances of winning when going up against stronger teams having the best players.
While a superb player could perhaps influence the odds a little, there are several factors that would contribute to the odds of a game.
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August 23, 2023, 03:13:28 PM
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?
Yes star players can affect the odds especially with some important players in the team absent the bookies will increase the odds.
Star players are important for a team they can be more solid because there are several star players in it of course the bookies will consider in every odds offered, so for me star players can change my bet or yours.

Before making a bet I always check their starting line up.
For me this is important for bettors because looking at some of the players including if one star player is injured sometimes the odds have a big effect.

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August 23, 2023, 03:17:44 PM
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I don't think just one individual player, no matter how much of a star he may seem to be influences much. Football is a team effort irrespective of the contribution of one or two players who may seemingly perform and play better.  They've been multiple instances where not so strong teams having the better chances of winning when going up against stronger teams having the best players.
While a superb player could perhaps influence the odds a little, there are several factors that would contribute to the odds of a game.
Of course team play is the most important thing in football, but you can't deny if there are many people favoring his football player than his favorite team. It mean the football player give a lot influence, Ronaldo is the example. He join Al Nassr and if he play, most of the match Al Nassr become the favorite. Same like other teams that have an European player.

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August 23, 2023, 04:26:54 PM
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Isnt this a cute way to oversimplify how important star players are? You suppose "playing part of a game" or "being replaced"? Sports are not all or nothing. Its not checkers. Seeing a star player alone impacts the game mentally and strategically.

Stories, narratives, and powerful people move us. Sports and people are drawn to these folks. Messi and Ronaldo arent just big names or flashy brands; they're the best examples of how humans have changed over time. They strain their physical and mental limitations on the pitch.

Now, about the chance of winning a bet: of course they do! Bookies are smart. The odds consider a player's name, recent performance, and strategy impact. Its stupid to disagree. In order to calculate the probabilities of these "four levels of contribution," you should first understand how they are linked rather than arranging them in boxes like a child's puzzle.


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August 23, 2023, 04:51:08 PM
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?


The answer is very varied, depending on how strong a team is. but usually, the star players have a big influence on the betting odds. it's just that usually betting odds are available long before the match is held, but the situation will change depending on how the team's overall condition is. In soccer, a team can have several star players. if one of them is absent, it can affect the odds, maybe not. and all that, depending on the team that will be their opponent later. the point is, we will always refer to the odds that the bookies provide. if there is something strange, it is likely that several players were absent from the match. it could also, star players injured. or maybe, the match doesn't affect any judgment like a friendly match for example.

Well, as I said at the beginning, the answers will vary widely. considering what you asked, as I said. it all depends on a team that will compete. also, how much the star player has contributed. The point is, we can't generalize. therefore if you are interested in sports betting, you will really need knowledge, insight, experience, and several other methods, if you are interested and want to bet on sports betting.

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August 23, 2023, 04:59:12 PM
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I would like to take into consideration four levels of contribution in a match by a star player, and hope to see from everyone's opinion how their contribution would go to affect the outcome, odds of a game and the bet after the game is concluded. These four levels include:
*playing part of a match,
*playing a full match,
*being substituted out and
*being substituted in.

No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.

My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

In my opinion I think star players have a role to play in a team  and a very needed in some key matches and most times without their involvement could affect the outcome of the match and also a bettors game, for instance like you stated Ronaldo and Messi are very influential in their current teams and their performance have led to both teams success and when they're not included in some certain matches their teams performance
Seems poor than when being involved.
 Now I think this applies mostly to clubs that build their squad around one player, for instance Debruyne is one of Mancity's star player if not their best but since he's our due to injury his team still win matches, because even though he's very important in the squad they don't really depend on him to be successful, cause the team is not built around him or too dependent on his ability.

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August 23, 2023, 05:01:17 PM
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I would like to take into consideration four levels of contribution in a match by a star player, and hope to see from everyone's opinion how their contribution would go to affect the outcome, odds of a game and the bet after the game is concluded. These four levels include:
*playing part of a match,
*playing a full match,
*being substituted out and
*being substituted in.

No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.

My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?


I would really like when the star player is playing a full match and the rest all of the options would be a negative sign for me personally.
If he's playing part of a match then I would wonder why he is not playing the whole match, it might also mean something is wrong with his health or something.
If he is being substituted out or substituted in there's something fishy and it will definitely impact he odds.
So I think only when the player is playing the whole match the odds will be favorable.

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August 23, 2023, 05:49:08 PM
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Isnt this a cute way to oversimplify how important star players are? You suppose "playing part of a game" or "being replaced"? Sports are not all or nothing. Its not checkers. Seeing a star player alone impacts the game mentally and strategically.

Stories, narratives, and powerful people move us. Sports and people are drawn to these folks. Messi and Ronaldo arent just big names or flashy brands; they're the best examples of how humans have changed over time. They strain their physical and mental limitations on the pitch.

Now, about the chance of winning a bet: of course they do! Bookies are smart. The odds consider a player's name, recent performance, and strategy impact. Its stupid to disagree. In order to calculate the probabilities of these "four levels of contribution," you should first understand how they are linked rather than arranging them in boxes like a child's puzzle.




Star players will be the turning point in the game,the star players will impact both the match and the team.Most of us come across the names of Messi and Ronaldo, this player not only earn the name for them.They also made their team name to the world fans.The name of this player is not a brand, but they made their name as an brand.All the sports person now know the name of this two people.If you chosen the star players,the possibility of winning is very high.For this reason the bookies choose based on the players performance all the time.Maximum the key players will made their best game and allow you to win more money.Only on the rare of rarest time,their performance will not upto the expected and that game may be leads to the loss.

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August 23, 2023, 06:19:51 PM
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I would like to take into consideration four levels of contribution in a match by a star player, and hope to see from everyone's opinion how their contribution would go to affect the outcome, odds of a game and the bet after the game is concluded. These four levels include:
*playing part of a match,
*playing a full match,
*being substituted out and
*being substituted in.

No star player is agreeably just a placebo effect on any team, and unlike Ronaldo and Messi who have influenced their new teams to attain new feats, they are expected to perform excellent service in the positions they are signed for and nothing less of that.

My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?


I would say absolutely and Messi and Ronaldo are the most crystal clear example of such thing.Of course there are other star players who can make a difference and these maybe not so well known but yet still super star for the teams where they play.I will make an example of many many years ago of Wagner Love a Brazilian attacker of CSKA Moscow who used to score goals even against strong teams in Champions League and back at that time the title in Russia was not something disputable,CSKA used to win it almost every year at the time of this player,so yes they definitely impact the odds.

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August 23, 2023, 06:39:55 PM
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?
I don't think it's completely influenced and depends on the opponent they face in the match. Take the example of PSG when they played in the Champions League and they had star players last season but when we bet on winning they actually lost in certain matches when they faced clubs that had the same quality. It is possible that these star players will affect the match if they face a club below their standard, so the bookies provide bigger winning odds for them.

The answer may depend on the match they face or it can also be seen from some of the percentages of previous encounters, but to say as a whole there is no guarantee that the presence of a star player will affect the winning percentage of the game or in the betting itself. If that's a strong reason then it's easy to take a chance to win at gambling bets because it only relies on star players, but the fact is not so, right?

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August 23, 2023, 06:43:26 PM
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While I don't really think that a single player could turn the tides of the game towards their team, I always find myself accounting for star players whenever I bet on games with them. Sometimes they just do so much you know, that they greatly affect the way the game turns out especially in games like basketball, football, and eSports, although as for the latter it's not so much apparent. Regardless, even if you don't think that these star players are going to affect the game's outcome, it's best to just account for them every now and again to make sure your predictions are in line with reality as much as possible. I find that if I disregard them in my games I lose horribly, so I just started taking their existence into account. I can't say I experienced an apparent increase in win rates, but at the very least it gives me this sense of confidence that I took everything into consideration.

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I think everything affects the odds to some degree (I don’t think affect is the right word here). Even if momentarily, you’d think every bet placed for any reason has an effect on the marketplace or betting odds. People can place bets for any reason. Maybe their star player is getting divorced or they saw them buying cold medicine in the news. Who know? Theoretically though, any and everything will effect the odds.

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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

Of course they do, star players are not just another player, they are considered stars because their sole presence can alter the course of the game, as they could do nothing for the majority of the game but if for a few seconds they demonstrate their brilliance that is enough to win the game, and this is extremely common even on teams sports where a lot of players are on the field, and most of the time those players are the reason why a good team becomes a legendary team and they can crush their competitors.
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August 23, 2023, 07:02:54 PM
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I don't think just one individual player, no matter how much of a star he may seem to be influences much. Football is a team effort irrespective of the contribution of one or two players who may seemingly perform and play better.  They've been multiple instances where not so strong teams having the better chances of winning when going up against stronger teams having the best players.
While a superb player could perhaps influence the odds a little, there are several factors that would contribute to the odds of a game.

Yes, that sounds quite reasonable and some of these teams can sometimes turn things around when they meet a team with a myriad of star players. The most important thing is how a team can give a good performance and with more confidence it can produce a spirit that can beat doubts. I think even though the presence of star players can be a measure of victory, the fact that an ordinary team with fairly even depth can be a plus in a match.
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August 23, 2023, 07:46:37 PM
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Lol anyone who’s says anything other than absolutely a star player affects the outcome of the game greatly doesn’t have a clue what they’re talking about.  The star players are what makes a team good, and with out them their teams odds of winning increase drastically.

This is the same reason some sports books won’t list the odds if the playing status of the player is unknown at that moment.

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August 23, 2023, 08:23:52 PM
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?
A star player in a team can be reason a team wins. Bookmakers do not directly consider the individual performance of these players, but they know that the presence of these players in the team will greatly contribute to how the game will go. If a star player is on top performance and they know that with him in the team playing against another team, there is a chance to win, it affects the odds that is placed on them to win. Bookmakers evaluate the performance of a team to fix odds, when there is a star player who has the ability to influence the game's outcome, they put them under consideration too.

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August 23, 2023, 08:25:41 PM
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I don't think just one individual player, no matter how much of a star he may seem to be influences much. Football is a team effort irrespective of the contribution of one or two players who may seemingly perform and play better.  They've been multiple instances where not so strong teams having the better chances of winning when going up against stronger teams having the best players.
While a superb player could perhaps influence the odds a little, there are several factors that would contribute to the odds of a game.

But still, there are many more examples when a team with the best players wins. I agree that the question of which is stronger - team play or the team with star players is interesting, but if we take two identical teams (in every sense) and add a top player to one of them, this will shift the odds.
As for the magnitude of the shift, I can say from my own experience that bookmakers rarely seriously move the line even if some very significant new factors appear.

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August 23, 2023, 08:42:16 PM
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My question is simple, do star players really affect the odds of a bet, or wager or stake on a match, putting into consideration the four levels of contribution in a match, as I mentioned earlier?

Star players have no influence on the gambling odds. Gambling odds is multifaceted than mere numbers. Things like the team's strength in attack, defense, teamwork go into the determination or setting up of gambling odds. Stars don't win championship, teams do. For instance, PSG with all the stars couldn't win the championship.

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August 23, 2023, 08:43:39 PM
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Well, if I know that some star players will miss the next game I will think about my bet twice. And if we adjust our bets depending on the players, for sure these players affect the odds as well. Many factors play a role in creating odds in betting, but I guess we can be sure that the "status" of some players plays one of the significant roles in creating odds.

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August 23, 2023, 08:50:51 PM
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I don't think just one individual player, no matter how much of a star he may seem to be influences much. Football is a team effort irrespective of the contribution of one or two players who may seemingly perform and play better.  They've been multiple instances where not so strong teams having the better chances of winning when going up against stronger teams having the best players.
I agree that football is a team game, not an individual game. So, cohesiveness or compactness is more influential than the big name of one or two players. That's why sometimes a smaller team can beat a stronger team if the small team can cooperate better. A star player in a strong team can be useless if they can't play as a solid/cohesive team. However, if a star player plays in the right team, he can make a difference because he has the ability above the average players. You can see Messi, he can lead Argentina to win world cup and lead Barcelona to win many trophies because of his special ability. Whenever he played, he can attract most defenders of the opponents because he is difficult to stop. He has extra ordinary skills in dribbling, so it becomes a big challenge for opposing defenders. With this situation, there are many opened spaces to attack because most the defenders will try to stop Messi. It is the reality of how a star player can contribute much to increase the winning chance. So, many people place a bet on the team where Messi plays.


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